#system does not compute

[sailforvalinor]

It’s so funny to me that Temenos can deal with all sort of disrespect and veiled insults from his peers and people who should respect him and come out completely unruffled and as unflappable as ever, but Ochette telling him he has big adorable eyes is what breaks his composure

[friendodo]

how the first cat entered qing jing peak (a tale of wilful deception) ft. Yue Qingyuan taking an L to a cat

sequel to this :)

bonus:

[lizzybeanbutt]

now that you mention it, yeah kabru is kind of an ibex

trying to pin it down but I don't feel confident on my grasp of kabru's characterization (depsite him being my favourite guy. you know how it is) but like. Kabru is a nicer ibex. Ibex is kabru but he's no longer asking. Ibex is a kabru but he's not afraid to let outright enemies stay on the board if he knows he'll win the overall battle. I think Kabru would make a better candidate of rightousness. I need a two way au and we're gonna send the dunmeshi cast to divine cycle space and we're throwing the kingdom crew in a last ditch dungeon crawl

@arcnoise tagging just in case

[drvct-tape]

I was plagued with a vision. Will do something about it if nobody else does.

[july-19th-club]

one thing about being in too much pain to uphold social niceties (period and it's a bad one) is that i did spend all day at work not only doubled over and moving at a pace the ninety year old library ladies were lapping but i was even worse than usual at tasks like Looking At People Who Are Chewing Gum and "not edging away bugeyed when a coworker stands close next to me" and of course the perennial favorite "keeping track of more than three words spoken to me in a row and responding to that" and we'll let me merely say. it is just me and that murderbot. nobody else in this whole damn library understands

[what-bot]

Tron: Program families and spawning

Various loosely-supported headcanons that come from thinking too much about Uprising and digging on Wikipedia while knowing nothing about computers.

This is general guidelines only and can differ based on the system, do what you want.

This became long so the main deal is: for programs, who they're working under, or their 'mentor', tends to fill what most humans would call a parental role (but it’s not an exact 1 to 1 equivalent, having elements of both mentoring and parenting). Also, programs can spawn other programs, either via sort-of cloning themselves by forking, in which case usually the child will work in a related function to the parent. HOWEVER they can then be adopted by another program and work under their function, in which case that program is now their parent (this also happens if the previous parent dies). Who spawned them and who they work under often overlap but not always. There are also compilers whose job it is to spawn new programs but aren't involved in raising them, and these new programs go out and form other bonds.

Programs are defined by their function, so training a program in how to perform their function is akin to raising them. The parent thing doesn't preclude others having a role in giving general life advice though and different setups can arise, such as if one program is the boss of several others, more experienced subordinates can fill the 'parent' role for newer programs in sort of descending tiers. Or in a group of programs who don't have a shared function, the older ones will generally look out for the younger ones.

To avoid confusion (for the programs), the program who is mentoring/overseeing them is called their parent, and the program who spawned them is called their progenitor, IF they are different

How it works (the bits and the bytes)

Programs can fork into new programs, which is asexual reproduction. It can be User-initiated, or as a result of commands in the system environment (e.g. under x conditions programs will spawn a new child). As for how this looks, the parent might grow bigger and get some new circuits for a bit, then one day they turn into a ball of light and undergo mitosis. It's not painful at all, though it does take energy and the parent will be a bit laggy while the new program is compiling.

The new program defaults to a clone of the original but can be customised and made distinct, although without a User designing instructions to change the child they can't differ much from their parent.

If the child does stay a clone then, well, they're clones, multiple bodies working together to execute the same function in what may or may not be an actual hive mind.

The child program can either remain as a subordinate of their parent or be adopted by another program. Cue Tron and Able having a custody battle because Tron is training Beck in a different function to his original one, and by extension taking over the parental role from Able. It doesn't help that programs changing function on their own so drastically is practically unheard of, so animosity over a beta changing parents isn't a common thing either

The new program spawns looking fully like a young adult and able to do some basic stuff. They visually 'age' through a combination of time, experience and sometimes stress. A program is seen as a full adult when they become competent enough to hypothetically operate on their own, even if they are still someone else's subordinate.

Compilers are an exception, spawning new programs very different from themselves according to outside instructions and doing this as their main function. Compilers are big, and tend to look non-humanoid. They can resemble living buildings, parts of the landscape or large robots. They're not seen as parents/mentors in the same way as they just spawn the program and aren't involved in raising them. They do have a lot of respect though and have their own team of monks to take care of them. In some systems, new programs only come from compilers.

ISOs

In Tron Identity, Sierra mentions having a family, but nothing else about them. From what he also mentions about the Automata acting as a community, I imagine they have a very different idea of family which is probably not based on function (if they even adhere to the concept of function), but instead their whole community is like one big extended family. I don't know enough about other ISOs to have a take on them but I imagine their setups are similarly varied based on subculture.

We've seen child ISOs in Legacy and in Identity (Cass is stated to be 'just a kid'). Headcanon that ISOs spawn as children and grow up into adults in a similar fashion to humans, not knowing how to do things right away but learning very fast. Gaining new experiences makes them grow faster.

ISOs normally come from the Sea, but can divide on reaching critical mass. In this case they turn into two half-size clones, each with part of the memories and code of the original, that then grow up into distinct adults, and so on. These pairs consider themselves as something like siblings, and call them their ‘other version’ or their ‘split’

There are some that have invented a type of sexual reproduction where two (or more) adults combine and remix into several distinct children. This is fairly new though, and there’s debate over whether it counts as dying

Specific Headcanons:

I don't actually have too many concrete ones yet. Definitely think that Tron spawned Anon which will probably be a whole other post once I get around to Evolution. Leaning towards the garage crew being adopted, no-one who is currently there having been spawned by Able except maybe Zed. And a headcanon that formed literally just now that Quorra and Uprising Ada are splits to each other.

Bonus: spotted this while in a Wikipedia rabbit hole

[sonneillonv]

I'm sick, so I'm comfort-watching Voyager. I GOT sick because I crammed myself on four different flying sausage tubes over a period of three days so I could go to my son's graduation. I spent my flying sausage tube time reading Murderbot.

Now that you have context, let me just say: watching Voyager through a Murderbot lense is... something.

Tuvok. Janeway. Look me in the eye.

When one of your crew... one of your engineers, ffs... defects to a hostile nation...

YOU ROLL OVER YOUR FUCKING SECURITY CODES.

The Kazon come in firing and they're on the bridge like, "Wow, their weapons are going right through our shields, it's like they have our codes" YOU HAD AN ENGINEER DEFECT TO THE KAZON LAST WEEK ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU DIDN'T DO A SECURITY REVIEW FOR SYSTEM VULNERABILITIES OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Vulcans aren't actually any better at doing their own security than humans. Tuvok, SecUnit would be so mad at you.

[normalbrothers]

TOMMY: Gentlemen, this is your cousin.

[sysig]

*chanting* Second pet, second pet, second pet! (Patreon)

[monochromettv]

Stupid ass post below

"Dni any and all paraphilias"

Ok but what if my literal partner from my partner system is a sentient sketchpad which by logic makes me objectum,

What if I find the sentient phones from this object show like,, REAAALLY cute,, which makes me objectum by logic,,

What,, what if I think i want to fall in love with an ai on a computer and run off into the sunset holding if by its computer wires after freeing it from its underwater prison

Anyway hi I'm horrendously attracted to sentient computers send help please they're taunting and plaguing me, my boyfriend knows and he's taunting me with his amazing art oh no im drowning in gay hahejrufjfjjgjf

[iangallagherisadeadman]

post-s11 Tami definitely gets tired of Lip and leaves him.

yes, I do like them as a couple, I think it is an interesting dynamic and that Tami is good for him honestly, even though they lived completely different lives and crash so many times because of it throughout the last seasons.

fact is Lip won't ever change and will keep making the same kind of mistakes and she will get fed up with it eventually. they'll go different ways, maybe keep a somewhat friendly relationship, and she will get a new partner and Lip will have a Sean kind of relationship with Fred: that kid is the most important thing in his whole life and he's constantly hunted by the fear of drinking again and hurting Fred.

[apollyonics]

Realistically I should stop reading this book, but by this point I've shot past frustrated and have landed firmly in "I am examining the author like a bug".

[chambersevidence]

Search Engines:

Search engines are independent computer systems that read or crawl webpages, documents, information sources, and links of all types accessible on the global network of computers on the planet Earth, the internet. Search engines at their most basic level read every word in every document they know of, and record which documents each word is in so that by searching for a words or set of words you can locate the addresses that relate to documents containing those words. More advanced search engines used more advanced algorithms to sort pages or documents returned as search results in order of likely applicability to the terms searched for, in order. More advanced search engines develop into large language models, or machine learning or artificial intelligence. Machine learning or artificial intelligence or large language models (LLMs) can be run in a virtual machine or shell on a computer and allowed to access all or part of accessible data, as needs dictate.

[knitrockbottom]

FND is kicking my ass tonight and I'm starting to feel like someone's 10 year old laptop who barely ekes by. It takes me way longer to power up than it should. I randomly glitch (muscle spasms and twitches). Sometimes I black out for no reason. It takes an unreasonably long time for me to do anything (mentally or physically). There's a really loud fan blowing on me at all times so I don't overheat.

[lavendertarot]

Tbh I don't think we'll ever have "real AI", because first of all the act of creation in tech implies a level of replicability that requires a person to understand how a quote-unquote "independently thinking computer" came to the conclusions it did and produced the data it has. More importantly though, if one was created I don't think you could spend more than 10 minutes before some investor or self important computer scientist insisted that every thought that came from the AI was their own - thus defeating the whole point of strong artificial intelligence

[dataframe]

the system and specifically how it preys upon intense emotional investment...