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verkomy · 6 months
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what is the best delivered line in the hobbit and why is it “you’re going to have to speak up, your boys flattened my trumpet”
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greeneyed-thestral · 1 year
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«Have you forgotten? A strain of madness runs deep in that family. His grandfather lost his mind, his father succumbed to the same sickness.
Can you swear Thorin Oakenshield will not also fall?»
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ellrond · 1 year
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lonicera-edulis · 3 months
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30 for the ask game! 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Aaa, you forgot the character's name, but I will asume it's Bilbo asdfgjhk 😆
30. "The funniest scene they had?"
I hope it is okay that I didn't draw anything, there are plenty of good stuff people already posted.
(Sadlly I haven't found the post with a bit from the book with a funny art to that. I hope I will find it again eventually.)
For the next two scenes I had to combine them in one video because tumblr doesn't allow to upload more than one.
And the Trolls scene from AUJ! And this when Smaug woke up.
And I have to add this whole video too:
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Update: I found that post with bit from the book xD
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jessarioferebor · 2 years
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Okay so idk if this theory has already been thought of, BUT!
What if the reason why Thorin’s gold sickness came on so hard and fast was because he was AROUND BILBO, who was carrying the RING?
We’ve already seen evidence that the ring can affect others simply by being near them (Boromir, etc), so it would make PERFECT sense for it to be the culprit for Thorin succumbing so quickly to the gold - especially since, thanks to the deleted scene in Rivendell in AUJ, we already know that he is afraid of falling to the sickness.
Thoughts?
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An Indispensable Silver Lining | The Hobbit Ref Dump
So, I can’t (see: don’t want to) go on with An Indispensable Silver-Lining until I can sit down and rewatch some Desolation of Smaug to pin down some character locations, and I really wanna decide if I’m going full movie-verse or embracing a specific fanedit or book+movie mix and what timeline I want to hold myself to for Thorin—
Can you believe I started this fic thinking ‘I’m not going to get bogged down by canon or details this time. I just wanna write for the fun’? 😂 That went well.
Point is, just because I want to gather some canon facts? It hasn’t stopped me from writing up 1500 words of a chapter 2+ plan, or over 6 THOUSAND WORDS of longterm storyboarding in less than THREE DAYS covering Smaug and the men/dwarves/elves factions and the orcs and some of the bagginshield progression and the ‘act 1’ climax and like three ways ‘act 2’ could break bad, and— well, you can tell it’s a true passion project when I keep stepping away, think of another thing, and scramble back to my phone to jot down a few hundred more words in whatever moments I can steal. And, more pertinent to this post, I can’t stop devouring a ton of resources and inspiration.
So, with that in mind, I thought I’d just share something of those sources! For fun, for later reference for myself as I write, for practical use if you’d like it yourself, or maybe you just want something else to read and these are great fics/lore bits to choose!
Fan Edit Considerations
A Comprehensive Guide to Fan Edits of the Hobbit Trilogy An older list, but viable for what it covers
Help on choosing Hobbit fan edit? Which is the best? A second reddit list, a bit more modern.
FanEdit.org: Lord of the Rings franchise A comprehensive list of options for The Hobbit + other LotR works
The Compromise Cut Created after all of the other lists, uncertain if it is on FanEdit.org.
[still need to fill in specific options & opinions]
Resource Websites
The Encyclopedia of Arda Tolkien Gateway LotR Online
Specific Details
TEoA: A Viewer’s Companion (AUJ) TEoA: A Viewer’s Companion (DoS) TEoA: A Viewer’s Companion (TBoFA) TEoA: Longbeards + The Other Clans
TG: Quest Motivations Generally good overview of the point of the quest and what happened.
TG: Smaug Role / Gandalf motivation "Following the sack of Erebor, Gandalf felt that Sauron would take advantage of Middle-earth's weakened state and attack Rivendell and Lothlórien or try regain Angmar; he also feared that Sauron "might use" Smaug "with terrible effect". [...The White Council] attacked Dol Guldur in TA 2941, while Sauron and Smaug could not "help one another". [...] his adversaries were able to drive him from the fortress with relative ease. [...] Sauron abandoned Dol Guldur willingly, and returned secretly to Mordor, where he would openly declare himself in TA 2951, and began preparations for his final war to dominate Middle-earth."
TG: The Arkenstone Arkenstone info from book and adaptations
Durin's Line Tapestry from DoS Shows the family connections with original book birth dates for all. Even though it was presumably made pre-sacking in 2770, and 3 of the company depicted were born after Erebor fell. That... is curious.
The Line of Dwarves A more thorough (and intriguing) look at the dwarf lines and relevant dates, all book-based.
Comprehensive Genealogy Chart of all the Hobbits from J.R.R. Tolkien's Legendarium My gosh is this expansive... and hard to load up on a screen, but if you don't want to miss something, check this!
HOBBIT FAMILY TREE: How are Bilbo, Frodo, Pippin, Merry, and Sam related? The less brain-breaking hobbit tree that focuses on the main 5 from the books.
Lord of the Rings Hobbit Family Tree More of a middle-ground on the 2 above options.
Bag-End PJ Hobbit Map Crucial for Bilbo background & any Shire scenes if they come!
A chronology of The Hobbit A day-by-day breakdown of the journey in The Hobbit, great for what-ifs and assessing likely travel times!
Suggested Alternative Timeline For The Hobbit by @avelera A very nice older post on a potential timeline alternative for The Hobbit films. As said above, the films do use the original dates in places, but as this post says, they don't always make sense about it. This is a nice option to consider instead.
Major Inspiration Fics
Backs To The Wall by @conkers-thecosy My current top TH/LotR read, a great active WIP, definitely a direct inspiration to me with the failure to get into Erebor leading things off course! And I'll likely have a parallel Laketown focus for a bit, though nothing as detailed and lived-in as Conkers' fic. And, aside from great writing and general motivation to write TH/Bagginshield, I love the portrayals of the characters (BILBO, Thorin, Gandalf, Dwalin, Nori, Bard and the Bardlings--) and pairings. Definitely tempting me towards Dwalin/Nori here!
And I'm Your Lionheart by Lee_Whimsy There always seems to be a fic in every fandom of mine that draws me in very early, becomes and instant fave, and then hangs there unfinished but perpetually on my mind. The 'one that got away' fic. This is it, and I shall forever love it, and you can just bet it will bleed into my takes somewhere, especially with Gandalf and Legolas and Bard and Fíli, if I recall correctly. I should totally reread this, or at least sections of it. Reading to the 'end' is... painful.
The Most Precious of Treasures by @sapphireshelle91 Another long untouched WIP, but a VERY different one, as it is a) post-TBoFA, and b) features a female Bilbo and parentshield with dwobbit!Frodo. I include this one because a) I love a number of the characterizations, b) if 'And I'm Your Lionheart' gives me the infrastructure and maintenance inspiration for Erebor, THIS fic delivers on the politics and intrigue, and c) I am a HUGE sucker for parentshield, be it biological or adoptive, so naturally I'm contemplating it for my own fic. Still iffy on which way I'll take it, but I've fallen down some intriguing rabbit holes in regards to Shire culture and Bilbo's background while considering the biological option, and I'd be loathe to abandon those ideas now. But either way, this fic deserves a definite nod for motivating me to come up with ideas.
Home Behind and Home Ahead by Etharei Love the characterizations in this one, and in particular, anything that gives me a tap onto Bilbo's character is appreciated. And I don't know if I'll draw much on it for this fic in particular, but I love all forms of parentshield and this is a lovely dynamic between the three characters, so I'd happily draw from it in the abstract.
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I cannot, for the LIFE OF ME figure out what they were going for with this scene.
I mean, anybody reasonably familiar with the Hobbit or anything else written by Tolkien would know Orcrist was very much not forged by Legolas’ kin and that he’d have absolutely no reason to claim that (especially not in Elvish which the Dwarves can’t understand - if he was saying that for their benefit and using ‘my kin’ as shorthand for ‘other elves’ it might make some vague amount of sense but he’s just thinking to himself, and there’s no way in hell he privately identifies with the Noldor enough that he’d think of them like that) but that’s not the weirdest thing about this. 
In the ACTUAL Elvish that he is ACTUALLY speaking in this scene, he’s saying:
“This sword was made in Gondolin. Forged by the Noldor.” (source)
Which is actually correct. Why oh why would they go to the trouble of writing a piece of Elvish dialogue saying one thing and saying exactly the opposite thing in the subs? 
If it was about the copyright issues of not being allowed to reference the Silm but they still wanted to have the actual facts as a little easter egg, couldn’t they tweak the subtitles so they’d fit better? Like saying “this is a blade from one of the old Elven kingdoms, forged by the High Elves?” Hell! It can’t be that, the LotR movies had Galariel use the word ‘Noldorin’ to describe the daggers she gives Merry and Pippin, AND the first Hobbit movie had Elrond spelling it out for us by literally saying: “This is Orcrist, the Goblin-cleaver. A famous blade... forged by the High Elves of the West, my kin.(...) And this is Glamdring (...) Sword of the King of Gondolin. These were made for the Goblin Wars of the First Age” SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE ISSUE HERE?! 
If they wanted to have him say exactly what he’s saying in the subs, couldn’t they have him actually say that instead of distracting me with the word ‘Gondolin’? Is it that they recorded the dialogue to echo Elrond’s words in AUJ, and then thought “hmmm, casual viewers won’t get that even though we referenced that in the first movie” and so they subbed it with the exact opposite of what he’s saying?? To also echo what Elrond said except this time it has the unfortunate consequence of implying that Legolas and Elrond are kin which would be bound to confuse casual viewers even more?! 
Which version am I supposed to go with now? Is Legolas merely confused about Dwarves carrying a First Age Noldorin weapon - which is what his real dialogue and initial reaction tell us - or is he offended that Dwarves apparently stole something that belonged to ‘his kin’ - which is what the subtitles establish and what the movie goes with?? Why is the movie operating on two separate and contradicting levels of reality?!
I mean, his reference to Gondolin makes his bitchy attitude even more unwarranted and pointless than it already was, because if Thorin had stopped being a cryptic asshole for all of two seconds he could have just said ‘Lord Elrond gave this to me’ (truthful + Elrond is the kind of guy you absolutely namedrop if you want an Elf to listen to you) instead of ‘it was given to me’ (needlessly vague, antagonizing and dumb) and Legolas would have gone ‘Elrond is pretty significantly connected to Gondolin, what with his grandparents being from there, and a Dwarf probably wouldn’t think to use that info to convince me, so it’s probably not a lie.’ 
Why do I get punished for knowing what they’re talking about? 
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lordoftherazzles · 10 months
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3k make you choose round 2; bitchy characters best characters
Sassy Bilbo or Sassy thorin
Bonus round; fav 'in the background of the shot' sass (eg bofurs face on the Carrock, raiding Bilbo's pantry, etc)
Another for you, my friend!!!
I think I gotta go with Sassy Bilbo on this one. Book!Thorin is a lot sassier than he is depicted in the movies, which is fine, but Bilbo is such a mood.
Bonus round: OKAY. So this is a Fili game that @sunnyrosewritesstuff and I decided to play while watching AUJ when I went to visit her recently. Any shot you THINK you see Fili, "Dean" or "Not Dean". Every single scene... (because Dean O'Gorman came into shooting later, replacing the initial actor, but they did not reshoot everything.)
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lathalea · 2 years
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Lies & Regret
I'm sure you remember that memorable scene in AUJ when Balin recounts the events of the Battle of Azanulbizar. Here is my Thorin moodboard for Armitage Summer Splash event.
WEEK 2 - PROMPT 14
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Trope: Lies Quote: “I wish I could go back.” Image: link
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📜 Searching for more stories to read and more art to look at? 📜 📜Here is the masterlist for Week 2 for the Armitage Summer Splash event. 📜
Quick taglist: @fizzyxcustard @linasofia @aduialel @i-did-not-mean-to @legolasbadass @xxbyimm @enchantzz @dumbassunderthemountain @guylty
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yume-x-hanabi · 10 months
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5 for Gaius and 6 for Wingul and 15 for Xillia and 50 and 62 just because!
5. How many wips do you have? What fandoms/pairings are they for?
(I'm taking this as in how many wips do I have that are Gaius-centric; pls correct me if I'm wrong 😅)
Posted: Concubinage and Fractured Lives (though that one is alternating PoV)
WIPs in my documents:
some pre-game conquest of Auj Oule one-shot that I might have to revamp anyway (I had a whooooole thing planned out, with details about all the clans and stuff, but idk anymore)
another Concubinage-verse smutty one-shot (AU-ish). not sure I'll finish this one either XD
a previous Spicy Cocktail prompt fill I haven't finished but want to. Mostly Wingul pov but it's gonna alternate with Gaius a bit. Kinda darker/more fucked-up than my usual stuff honestly, but I like what I'd written so far
another Spicy Cocktail prompt fill I will probably give up on bc I'm not sure about the set-up anymore 😅
...and that's it actually. Turns out most of my fics are written from Wingul's pov 😂
6. What’s the last line you wrote?
(again, taking this as "Wingul-centric line")
I'm actually not sure, because I'm pretty sure the last Wingul-related wip I made progress in was Moonlight Tempest (my WinDist collab fic with @bibliophileemily), and since it's a collab fic I don't remember who wrote what line lol
I don't know which other Wingul-centric wip was the latest before that (it's been a while), but I found another incomplete sentence in my drafts so let's go with that 😂
Wingul was not one to give up easily. His own stubborn pride prevented him from
From chapter two of the reincarnation AU. I have... no idea where this was supposed to go orz
15. What’s your favorite time to write?
Evening is when I'm the most productive writing-wise, even though I wish I could apply that to more convenient parts of the day.
50. How would you describe your writing style?
🤷‍♀️
(English is hard XD)
62. In [insert fic], is there a deleted scene/idea you wish you could have included?  Why did it get cut?
Gonna answer for Concubinage.
I had a scene in the original version of chapter 26's smut scene (rewrote that one entirely from my original draft) where Lin called Arst "(my) dear" in Long Dau. Arst asked what he said and Lin got embarrassed and tried to deflect, while Arst tried to pester an answer out of him (without success). It was a cute scene, but it sadly didn't go with the flow of the revised version. Maybe I can try to repurpose it in another scene one day...
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Guys, I can not stress this enough...I’VE BEEN WANTING TO UNVEIL THIS SEGMENT FOR SO LOOOOOOONG!! Life just kicks my butt sometimes, I swear...
Okay, so here’s what Friday Features are about! I love seeing fic recs on here, but like 9/10 times...it’s really old fics. NOT KNOCKING, THERE ARE SOME REAL GEMS OUT THERE!! But I feel like it’s discouraging for our creators that are out here right now to not be on a rec list. So here’s the “rules” to this rec list:
I will only rec fics no older than 2020. 
I will provide 3-5 fics per “tag”.  
Length, completion status does not matter.
Suggestions are more than welcome!! I love reading fics. 😁 And if there’s a specific tag that you want me to give recs for, please hit me up with an ask or dm!
Without further ado, our first tag is...
SOULMATES/ONES- BAGGINSHIELD
Love Letters by BadgertheGnome- This is such an adorable story told alternating between letters and Bilbo’s POV as our favorite two idiots realize that the other is actually in love with them and where to go from there as Bilbo has returned to the Shire. I think the transitions through time are flawless, and while it was not quite the soulmate hit I was looking for, I was definitely pleased with this little slice of life story. 
Rating: T
Warnings: implied sexual context (but nothing graphic)
Words: 10K+
Status: Completed
Be My One by selfproclaimedmoron- Set between AUJ and DOS, this was the perfect little interlude! Thorin is an idiot (but what else is new), but not to fear! Bilbo sets him right eventually. Some very sweet moments spaced between the misunderstandings, and fun use of soulmate links. 
Rating: G
Warnings: N/A
Words: 3K+
Status: Completed
Markings of the One by Beautiful_Baloney- THIS FIC! I will never get over the Goblin King scene with Thorin just softly pleading for Bilbo’s life as long as I live…sorry spoilers. Okay, actually review. I LOVE painter Bilbo in this, and it made such a fun reveal considering soulmates in this share the drawings on skin with their other half. Twenty-eight chapters, and we’re still skating around the issue even knowing they are soulmates, but I’m loving the slow burn. Fun retelling of the quest with Soulmate AU, well worth the read!
Rating: NR
Warnings: Creator Chose Not to Use
Words: 79K+
Status: In progress 28/?
King Again by LittleYellowBean- PAINNNN! This one starts off very angsty, but there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon. I love the Bilbo and Dis friendship here, and Fili and Kili grow up so much! (Especially by chapter 3). Super excited to see where this one is headed.
Rating: M
Warnings: Graphic Description of Violence (although that hasn’t happened yet)
Words: 7K+
Status: In progress 3/?
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c-h-pictures · 2 years
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Instead of writing the case, STTW actor AU part 3, with the case I should be writing but am not.
Tomoki: Oh please, if the head of IntComs dying caused us issue, we would’ve fallen apart centuries ago.
Tomoki:
Tomoki: It’s not centuries.
Nadira: It’s not.
Tomoki: It’s decades.
Nadira: Yep.
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Chuuya and Unnamed Murderer, waiting for the sides to fill so they can film through water for the underwater fight:
Chuuya: You know when you take an animal to hydrothrerapy and they put them in a tank and fill it with water?
Murderer: Yes?
Chuuya: That’s what this feels like to me.
Murderer:
Murderer: What?
Dazai: OH MY GOD! IT DOES!
Chuuya: THANK YOU!
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Chuuya, with Dazai’s coat over his shoulders: It’s so long! IT’S SO FUCKING LONG! I COULD WEAR THIS AS MY WEDDING DRESS!
Dazai: You don’t wear dresses. Or skirts.
Chuuya: No, but this would be the first.
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Dust: You’ve got all us out here waiting for Chuuya because he has so many different outfits that the costumes team hadn’t finished them all in time for the scenes.
Nadira: We’re doing this case chronologically for once because we don’t need him at the beginning.
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Dazai: Can we make this his AUJ outfit? It looks amazing!
Chuuya: If we went off your thoughts on outfits, I would be wearing a cropped hoodie as my formal wear.
Dazai: But it does look amazing.
Chuuya: Yes, but that’s not the point.
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Dazai, as they get the drinks for the cafe scene: Fuck yeah, all expenses paid date with the bf.
Chuuya: I wouldn’t call it a date given everything in the scene.
Dazai: I would.
Chuuya: You already did.
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imagine if the hobbit movies portrayed the dwarfs all bonding and soft and kind for each other like i KNOW they are... I KNOW IT. we were robbed of the inherent love and community and support that the LOTR films portrayed so well. i know they would be incredibly expressive and not ashamed of it.
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shiretunez · 3 years
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Been watching some hobbit behind the scenes and my hot take on the movies is that I think they shouldn’t have given Orlando Bloom a script. Think they should’ve just let him loose on the set and told him to do whatever he wanted and it probably would have been more accurate to Legolas’ character than how they had him acting in the hobbit movies
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glorfindels-archive · 4 years
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middle earth meme  » one hobbit movie ↬ an unexpected journey
saruman believes that it is only great power that can hold evil in check. but that is not what i have found. i've found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keeps the darkness at bay. simple acts of kindness and love.
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thotinshield · 3 years
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its... interesting to me that dwalin seems very unconcerned with gold in general
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