I've been seeing some confusion about what it is that Phaya and Tharn have done in their past lives to deserve punishment now - or in what possible way they have wronged others and are now "reaping bad karma".
I've also seen the theory that the venerable Luang Por might be the reincarnation of the naga that wanted to be a monk... which is actually a really touching possibilty because the story about the naga monk does exist. You can find in in the Vinaya (Mv.I.63.1) but here is a condensed version:
... Once a Naga, a powerful serpent who can take the form of a human being, was mistakenly ordained as a monk. Shortly after, when asleep in his hut, the naga returned to the shape of a huge snake. The monk who shared the hut was somewhat alarmed when he woke up to see a great snake sleeping next to him! The Lord Buddha summoned the naga and told him he may not remain as a monk, at which the utterly disconsolate snake began to weep. The snake was given the Five Precepts as the means to attaining a human existence in his next life when he can then be a monk. Then out of compassion for the sad snake, the Lord Buddha said that from then on all candidates for the monkhood be called 'Naga' as a consolation. They are still called 'Naga' to this day.
*by Ajahn Brahm
So if the naga by following the Five Precepts is reborn as a human being he can then be a monk. 🥺🙏
As for Phaya and Tharn's karma - it's not so much that they've done something morally wrong. It's more that by their intentional actions they have wronged Chalothorn and this is what leads to the consequences we've seen. It makes more sense if you don't view karma as a direct result or as punishment/judgement, but rather as a cause and effect that's not really for us to understand.
I also think it's more important here that Chalothorn's continuous intentional actions are the cause of his own downfall (and that of Phaya and Tharn), while the venerable Luang Por states: "Remember, your [Phaya and Tharn's] good deeds and merits will always protect you."
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"With our personal free will, we move forwards when we attune that to the cosmic will of our harmonic soul. The soul has a will with a cosmic power, but that usually works very differently than the will of the human personality.
The will of the soul is attuned to its own harmonic evolution; naturally in harmony with all of life. The human being as personality however is still only conscious of this harmony to a limited extent. As a result, he can disturb this harmony by the deployment of his free will. At that moment, his soul will start to work to correct this, in order to restore the lost harmony with all of life."
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before I start renting, going to be completely clear and honest, I'm very frustrated over the stupid clock app and their stupid takes and their black an white thinking. it's my turn to be hypercritical and have black and white thinking over my own hyperfixation. this is a very biased, over simplified, lacking any and all complexity, nuance, or fucks to be given. I'm being mean, take this with a grain of salt.
I hate how people treat Rhaenyra, it's so fucking stupid. she created most of her own problems. I could care less who and why she had sex with/when, but she created a shit ton of problems when she A. attempted to get with her uncle in a brothel and then slept with a knight and let her best friends father take the fall B. slept with and had kids with a man who looked nothing like her husband C. expected everyone to just turn a blind eye, including her best friend (who she abandoned after alicent was groomed and forced to be a child bride to a man who only wanted her to soothe his own greige and bring him heirs). Do I think a women's dignity or honor rest in her virtue? no, but Nyra knew what game she was playing, she knew who she was hurting, she knew the consequences and she doesn't get to be as bitter as she was because she had to face them. she got away with so much and it was never enough. alicent and her children suffered so horribly because of her. none of them knew love, they weren't getting it from their big sister nor their father. their mother was so miserable she couldn't give them the life they deserved. The Hightower-Targaryen family lived in constant fear because they expandable in viserys's mind, pawns in Otto's, and obstacles in Rhaenyra's.
alicent was never truly wrong, she had every right to be angry with Nyra almost everytime. she was robbed of everything, her father, her girlhood, her freedom, her autonomy, and apparently her right to be angry. all the while, her best friend abandoned her, and continued to take from her and torment her, cause the fate forced on alicent wasn't satisfactory to her.
Nyra felt entitled to her son's eye, put a bounty on her children’s (mainly) head, and expected everyone to just be good and chill with it.
why do people see her as a saint for that? why is alicent the bad guy for simply trying to survive, to protect her children, to gain any sort of power in a world that only seems to wrong her. like sure, she's no saint either, but what other choices did she really have? lay down and let Nyra and Viserys keep beating her and her kids down? oh wait, she tried that, time and time again. (tw for rape up ahead) it was alicent who laid down and let Viserys rape her for his own comfort, it was alicent who laid down and believed Nyras lies that got her father taken from her, she laid down to every disrespect until she couldn't anymore. she only started fighting back when she realized no one would fight for her or her children every again.
I'm so tired of these terrible takes, this show is so much more complex then how so many choose to see it. neither are saint, and nurse isn't all bad I know that, but I need people to pull their heads out of their asses for five minutes and see that alicent was much more of a victim then Nyra. alicent was robbed of everything her whole life, Nyra was sheltered and protected, given everything she wanted and taking what wasn't given to her, and yes, I know she lost her daughter to the stress of war, I know Aemond took her son (he didn't even want to, he wanted a debt payed, he wanted to scare Luke and take his eye, don't even start with me), and I'm sorry for her. But that doesn't automatically make everything she did disappear. cause I've seen that idea floating around and I just can't with it anymore.
just please, I need people (TikTok users tbh) to use their critical thinking skills
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After his waking conversation in the inn, Alaun turns to introspection. [A further look into the paladins head and his reasons for following the code]
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Surrounded by unknowns in a city once filled with life, the inn was a place of rest and small comforts.
The latest paladin to walk through it's doors had finally woken, tension bleeding out of his body, not once it was confirmed he was safe, but when his hesitant offer to stay and protect was refused.
It's like Seelah and Wenduag said, paladins are crazy. Allthough they meant it very differently.
Alaun was a paladin, but first he was a soldier. He had an underlying practicality, and understanding of people. The so called 'naivete' of paladins was less ignorance on his part, and more shoving your hand into what you know is a deadly trap and praying to whatever god can hear you that you can defuse it before it takes the limb.
He probably wasn't the only paladin like that, calculated recklessness is par for the course and just because you believe and follow your oaths doesn't mean you don't know better.
Blind faith in people is hard to come by in the world wound, so hard it almost comes back around to trust. The place is so bleak and your chances alone are so slim, what does it matter if you die to a centerpede or a blade in the back. Dead is dead. Well mostly.
A long way of saying he knew wenduag was not entirely on their side. That the hope she would stick around was doomed to wither- or die to locusts and hellfire. It made him all the more a fool he supposed. But he had been a fool for a long time, and he would be for much longer, gods willing.
He did believe in helping people, in walking with an outstretched hand, in making what little good you can in this world.
But he had woken up entombed by the corpses of his comrades, woken up to flashes of traitors opening the gates to the demonic hordes that had been laying seige.
He woke up to a broken city drowning in corpses.
With him alone, shimmering with Iomedaes light, alive.
He would not let this city share the same fate.
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i tried to make this post while on post limit so lets see if i can remember all the points i wanted to hit
i do feel kinda bad for the prince that she (and apparently even cael himself) really feel this way about him. so far this entire time he really has shown nothing but concern for cael (and thus, suspicion towards hestia), not to mention that he tends to visit cael while using an alias. if he'd ever visited cael in the previous life to try to reconcile(way too late), she'd have no clue about it.
at the same time, him @ diana like "i didnt correct your opinion on cael because i thought you'd come around on your own🥺" Just Ain't It. the two of you were practically raised as brothers and you still didnt try to mediate between him and your girlfriend?? hello??? especially considering that he saved your entire kingdom a massive headache???
all that being said
i think maybe the timeline here has been too vague. just how much time was between cael and diana's fight and diana and the prince's wedding? prince has made it sound like he doesnt have the full picture, yet at the same time he definitely knows diana's opinion on cael. if i had a clearer picture of how long the prince had waited before reaching out, i'd be able to understand cael's feelings better.
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I'm starting to like where I'm living.
The only problem (besides money, haha)?
There's quite a few people I've hurt in this town. And I don't know how they feel about me and I don't want to ruin someone's day when they see me.
Can I help that we exist in the same space? No. Should I move simply for the benefit of someone else? No.
All I can do is move on with myself and work towards being a better person than I was when I hurt them.
I am severely mentally ill and am taking steps to work with that and be a better version of me.
I've also hurt people who have hurt me first... but overall... I just hope everyone is able to move on to a happier life, wherever they go.
And maybe we can begin to be fine.
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