#tmnt rant

[cnwolf-brainrot]

03 Turtles - Greatest Fears

At least, as sourced from season 3, episode 14: The Darkness Within. I rewatched this episode, where the turtles are shown some of their greatest fears through hallucinogenic visions, and I decided to hyper-analyze the scenes to a friend of mine who doesn't watch TMNT so now I'm throwing these thoughts here as well. Simply put, these are the visions the turtles are shown: Leonardo: the death of Master Splinter Donatello: the death of Angel (who they were trying to help on this mission) Michelangelo: Leonardo turning against him Raphael: himself as the Shredder

As for why each of these are extremely important, I analyze them under the cut~

Leonardo: Leo holds Splinter's praise so much higher than his brothers do. Leo is the eldest child, the leader, the good student and the role model. He strives to emulate his father in all that he does. However, Splinter's death isn't some distant fantasy that Leo could never imagine; it's a real, stark, bone-deep terror that Leo carries. He's seen Splinter on the brink of death before. They all thought they lost him for a bit during season one. Leo knows his father isn't invincible, and that is TERRIFYING to him. He's the one who his brothers look to for guidance, and Leo looks to Splinter... without his father, EVERYTHING falls on his shoulders, and is he strong enough to bear that? This is further proved by the fact that in the vision thing Leo sees, Splinter rescues him before he dies; he looks to his father for guidance, security, everything... having to lead alone is his greatest fear.

Donatello: Don gets like twenty seconds of screen time and that makes me mad, but what he gets is important. Out of all of his brothers, his is the only vision that's focused on someone other than direct family. Donatello is a people-focused character; he goes out of his way to help others, and constantly throughout the series we see how empathetic he is. It doesn't matter if the focus of the episode is helping a dear friend or a stranger; Donny is the first in line to help. Moreover, he takes every single life they touch personally. This is seen specifically through how he keeps a bond with the homeless population of New York (seen in multiple episodes), how he witnesses the loss of April's neighbor Kirby, and how he spends months trying to find a cure for people who were experimented on by the Shredder (seen in the Underground episodes) even after his brothers have all but forgotten about them. Don is quick to protect people, and when he does he takes every single failure to heart. Failing someone he pledged to help is his greatest fear.

Michelangelo: Mikey seeing one of his brothers, particularly Leonardo, turn against him shows so much of his relationship with his brothers. Mikey's the annoying one, the goofball, the one the others are always teasing to the point its almost mean... but every single one of them would jump to his side in an INSTANT if he was hurt. This isn't just something Mikey "knows", it's something he SEES. Every time Mikey is in trouble, or -- God forbid -- an enemy makes the mistake of THREATENING Mikey, his brothers come out in full force. I can't even reference specific episodes here because it's throughout the WHOLE SERIES. Mikey knows he's annoying, and he knows he gets on his brothers nerves sometimes. But one thing he never has to doubt is if his brothers would be by his side... that is, until they're not. If there's ever something that would push his brothers far enough that they're not there with him, then what would he be left with? His brothers turning against him is Mikey's greatest fear.

Raphael: Raphael. OHHHHHH Raphael. The second Raph's was reveal was the second I decided I needed to type out this rant. At first his is simple; The Shredder walks out and attacks him. Raph fights back, as he always does, but eventually the helmet is knocked off and the Shredder's face is revealed... only it's Raph's face. And this shows us just what Raph is scared of; HIMSELF. Raphael genuinely struggles with anger issues in the 2003 show in a way that's a bit more prominent than in other iterations (my favorite example of this is probably the "what's wrong with me?" from the episode Lone Raph and Cub). He's angry, he's destructive, and he KNOWS this. It's something he's been told and seen for years. He struggles with controlling his anger, and he's had times before when he's lashed out and nearly hurt his brothers. Most of the time he brushes it off and recovers and makes up for it by throwing himself into danger to make sure his brothers aren't hurt. What makes this so heartbreaking is that this Raphael is an absolute sweetheart. He's all brawn and thick skin on the outside, but he's an utter softie; take his interactions with Tyler from Lone Raph and Cub, Mrs. Morrison from Touch and Go, or Ryan from this episode. And that's not to mention his interactions with his brothers!! This Raphael has a huge heart for others, and he has no idea. He genuinely doesn't seem to understand the fact that he's a caring person because he only is aware of his own faults. The fact that he sees himself as this -- their greatest enemy unmasked to see HIMSELF underneath -- shows just how little he knows about who he truly is. Raphael's greatest fear is himself, and that utterly breaks, my heart. Ok I'm done that's just my turtle overanalysis for the day, thank you for coming to my TED talk

[legendsoffandoms]

Hello again lovelies!

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So here’s my hcs on a few people!(no sound sorry :<)

(Photos too!)

Also anyone want a part two?

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[my-name-is-bunnyfoxy]

Why 2012 Raph's development is realistic and more human like

I wanted to talk about this about 2012 Raph. When you look more into Raph's character and why it's one of the best character developments ever and a realistic one. And I'ma just get to the point... ANGER can NOT all of a sudden disappear. Anger, by definition, is a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility. Something we have seen a lot with Raph. He is the hot-head of the team. Raph has been shown thru out the series to be easily annoyed by his brothers and that is mainly because he is always teased and picked on by them, mainly Mikey who always messes with him. And Raph's response is always to hit or yell at them. Something I myself have done several times because I ab taken by rage that my first reaction is to yell at someone and even become aggressive. That is what Raph is feeling. He doesn't think twice because he is over taken by anger and usually a person will not think twice when they get angry or upset. Remember the episode called ''Riddle of the Ancient Aeons''? Raph immediately goes into a fit of rage in one scene when Leo says he has always been jealous of him and Raph yells that Leo has always been Splinter's favorite and his first reaction was to attack Leo. But then after Leo hugs him, he feels guilty and horrible. That wasn't the only time he has felt guilty for hurting someone as well. Raph clearly does not want to hurt anyone at all but because he isn't able to think twice because of his anger, he ends up doing something terrible and people will often point their fingers at the one who is angry and see them as the bad guy. Raph represents how people will usually first react when they are angry or in rage or even just annoyed by someone. Which I have done even myself before. And the fact that Raph doesn't immediately learn his lesson or immediately feel guilty or horrible about himself is also really nice. Mainly because well,... People who are angry have a harder time and take a lot of time to realize how much they have messed up and end up regretting their actions. And they eventually start to blame themselves for acting that way and even feel ashamed for feeling angry. And Raph clearly has tried to control his anger and it could have been because he felt ashamed and felt like he would be at fault for hurting one of his brothers. Now let's actually get to why Raph's development is realistic that of a person who deals with anger and that is that well- Anger isn't something that can all of a sudden disappear. It's a human emotion. Something that will always be apart of someone. Raph can't make his anger disappear, but he can learn to control it. However though, he is shown to struggle with holding in that anger and will often throw an emotional tantrum and or outburst. There will always come a time where something annoys you so much to the point you just give into the anger. Which is the same case with Raph. The point of Raph's development isn't him trying to stop being angry but to learn to control his emotions and anger is one of them. He wants to control his emotions and when you really think about it, he is the most emotional out of all of them. Raph wants to control his emotions so he doesn't hurt his family and friends. He wants to become a better person because he doesn't wanna hurt his loved ones. I already said this and I will repeat it once more, Raph CAN'T make his anger disappear and will always stick with him because anger is an emotion nobody can escape or make it disappear from them. But Raph can indeed learn to control them. In conclusion: Raph having his development be restarted in many episodes is so understandable and realistic. Raph has shown to thru out the entire series want to control his anger and not let it get the better of him. By the end of the series he was finally able to control it and learn from it fully.

[neon-ghost04]

I have this sad theory or like concept about the turtles that’s been rattling around in my head for a while and I just need to rant about it.

The “teenage” part of teenage mutant ninja turtles is crucial to the plot. The story is told when they are teenagers. They are heroes when they are teenagers. They are close with each other when they are teenagers. They’re a family when they’re teenagers. But what about when they grow up?

Every time without fail, they drift apart, members of their family die, they lose the battle. SAINW, the wasteland arc in 2012, the future in the rise movie, the last ronin, I can name more because the list just keeps going.

So here’s my theory: the turtles are doomed to fail and fall apart when they reach adulthood.

There are a few future timelines that defy this theory and I don’t think it’s something any of the writers are doing on purpose, but every time I see the turtles grow into adulthood, it’s an adulthood without hope. Through all their battles and struggles and their bond with each other, it always crumbles down as adults. They never win, because it is impossible.

And I think in a sad metaphorical sense it shows what happens to a lot of siblings once they grow up. As I’m reaching the end of my teenage years there’s a bittersweet feeling knowing me and my siblings will never spend as much time together again as we had in our childhood. I think in a way, the turtles are telling us to cherish the time we have with our siblings while we’re still young. To be teenagers in the moment instead of rushing to grow up.

[crystal-crax]

A RANT

THE NEON LEON

(II) Why he needs to fail at being a leader

Inspired by Skulltrot's Leo analysis on Youtube (WATCH IT, IT'S SO GOOD, I LOVE IT)

What? Crystal! You're contradicting yourself-

Shhhh! This is poetry, listen to me

One of the reasons i've seen people complain about rise leo, is his overall "confidence".

They find him annoying or reduce him to "the funny guy", the one that messes everything up in the movie and deus ex machina's his way to the power of friendship.

But honestly, i think this is so far from the truth; Leo is integral to the concept and culmination of the rise turtles, he cements the message this version of the turtles has been trying to explain from the beginning.

You can't do everything alone; trust those who love you, and love those who you trust.

But honestly, i think a lot of people forget that we've all probably felt like him before.

Leo is quite a complicated character to understand easily (mostly bc the rise series got horribly cut down and omg i'm still hurting), because an important part of his character is he will literally never be honest about what he's feeling. The only thing he talks about? How he knows (bc he doesn't just think it, he's so sure about it) nobody trusts him or thinks he's capable of holding his own weight.

He comes off as uninterested and goofy because he so desesperately clings to that portrayal of himself because he needs to trick both others and his own mind that he's fine.

He doesn't think he's enough, he believes the team would be perfectly fine without him. He thinks he needs to prove he can do something so he can be valuable to the team.

And i think it's amazing

"Rise of the TMNT", the title already gives away the purpose of their different personalities and coping mechanisms on this version of the story. We're not meant to see an structured team of properly trained ninjas, we're here for the ride, we are walking alongside them as the team gets in line and learn how to be heroes.

Sure the other versions of the turtles had their own character arcs, you don't need to see something from the instant beginning to know the characters are growing, but rise has always felt more of a love letter to the turtle family itself. A complete exploration of an alternate universe where the mad dogz got to somewhat live as teenagers before earning the mantle as protectors of the world (and new york lol).

We're familiar with Leonardo's story in evey tmnt version, he's the leader. He's in charge of protecting the city and his family.

But the problem is always there, he fears he won't be enough, that he will fail to be the leader the world asks him to be. This is also something we see in rise leo but it's more...fresh? It feels naturally younger.

Were you never nagged about not taking things seriously when you were younger? Were you never yelled at for messing things up? Didn't you ever feel as if you had to prove to others that you were more they perceived you to be?

As someone that battles their own inferiority complex, leo feels...so easy to relate to.

He didn't ask for the responsability, and he kind of doesn't want it, but he learns to bear it properly.

He fails to be the good leader they expect him to be (i also have the theory he self-sabotages himself a lot?) but he learns to be more than what they expect.

To quote myself from my last post (yes i loved typing that) "a leader is not the one that orders, but the one that motivates and supports you". He learns how being a leader is not imposing or bearing every problem and responsability alone, but to motivate your team and guide them to never loose hope.

He uses everything he already knows about himself and his team to be better and guide them to a new version of the ninja turtle gang, one where family and trust is far more important than anything else (and it feels good to know we won't have the typical raph vs leo fight for leadership in the future- i mean there was a fight BUT IT WASN'T ABOUT THAT)

Someone stop me i might just start a tmnt rant loop of my own making and i'm enjoying it😭

[sleepyheadd0]

tmnt 2012: splinter projecting himself and shredder onto leo and raph

a rant / analysis

1.4k words; unedited

under cut

WRITING THIS AT LIKE 5:30AM BECAUSE I PHYSICALLY CANNOT GET THIS OUT OF MY BRAIN WHY HAVEN'T I SEEN PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THIS

okay okay, im gonna try to talk about this as clearly and concisely as i can. 2012 splinter is projecting his relationship with shredder onto leo and raph. people have probably talked about this but i just wanna explain my point of view on this.

so. as the story goes, shredder (also known as oroku saki) was found by splinter's (also known as hamato yoshi) father after the foot clan was defeated. splinter's dad adopted shredder and raised him as his own, having splinter and shredder be brothers. we all know this (i assume).

we also know that splinter and shredder's relationship, while always competitive, doubled down on that (and even became bitter and spiteful, even on both sides at points), when tang shen is added into the mix. as the story goes, both splinter and shredder fall in love with tang shen, but she falls in love with splinter, and so shredder gets all pissy and violence occurs. since they couldn't come to an agreement, tang shen died and miwa (now known as karai) was literally kidnapped by shredder.

but what does this have to do with leo and raph? lemme tell you what

leo and raph, in the very beginning of the series (literally the pilot), are introduced to us to be butting heads, even after sparring is over. as the pilot continues, raph is bitter that leo was chosen as leader, even though raph was physically stronger than leo. even after it was proved that raph couldn't be leader (and leo got to stay leader), there was always some sort of tension between the two throughout the course of the series (or at least up to season four, i have yet to find a way to watch season five and watch their dynamic during then. but i figure, given the clips ive seen, that their tension seemed to mellow out in that final season.)

do you see any parallels there? because i do

so. two brothers, training to be ninjas in the hamato clan. growing up, they were always butting heads, but that's not to say there was any malicious intent in that. then, one day, something the both of them want is added. (tang shen for splinter and shredder, leadership for leo and raph.) this only causes more tension to grow between them, causing their previous unharmful headbutting to take a turn for something a bit more hurtful. next, this special something is chosen for the more responsible brother. (tang shen falling in love with splinter, and it being proven that leo is the only brother with the mental ability to lead the team.) this, of course, only deepens the hot headed brother's bitterness; which in turn makes this brother act out in aggression towards the responsible brother. (shredder attempting to murder splinter, and raph having less self control when training against leo. (if im not wrong, there's an episode where raph's anger gets the best of him, and he goes too far on training with leo. if anyone can confirm that, that would be great lmao).).

so why do i say splinter is projecting this relationship onto leo and raph? great question.

as seen throughout the series, it's not all that difficult to see how splinter has farm more of a relationship with leo than he does raph, donnie, and mikey. the blatant favoritism is, due to what i believe, is seeing his younger self in leo. he's hardworking, responsible, reliable, diligent, and would do anything for the hamato clan / family. this is how we saw splinter himself act when the turtles went back in time when they first met renet. and if it's true that splinter saw his younger self in leo, then he very easily could've been seeing shredder's younger self in raph.

raph, being impulsive, having a short fuse, being very physically powerful, butting heads with the responsible brother, those are all traits that shredder had when he was younger. even the way that leo and raph's relationship dynamic was, it was parallel to splinter and shredder's. and when splinter declared leo the leader, that parallel became even more apparent.

but, splinter had already seen first hand how that parallel ended the first time: death, loss, and overall tragedy. and so, i believe splinter decided to try and nip the problem in the bud.

with raph, we can see splinter time and time again trying to mellow raph's anger; to have him bottle it up instead of letting it be a part of him and learning to control it. the biggest example i can think of is the episode "turtle temper", one of, if not the first proper non pilot episode of the entire series. not only does splinter set raph up for failure with his training exercise, but he literally told raph a story of him and shredder, and how the shredder exploited splinter's anger. even though splinter was comparing shredder to someone else, the use of a story about splinter and shredder leads me to believe that splinter could be using those experiences, in more ways than the one shown in "turtle temper", to help splinter parent raph and leo. now, while not actively villainizing raph, splinter still does paint raph's anger issues in a darker light than what they are.

and on the flip side, how does this affect splinter's parenting of leo? well, splinter already saw what happened if that parallel went on, and it only led to death and suffering. and with tang shen literally sacrificing herself to save splinter, i feel as though splinter could believe he failed tang shen and miwa. so with splinter being splinter, he tried to teach leo to not fail in the ways splinter believes he did. the harshness and strictness, far more one on one time spent with leo on screen, hell, even telling leo he'll have to take splinter's job as both a mentor and father to his brothers when splinter passes? it's hard for me to not believe splinter is projecting onto leo. this is simply because splinter just doesn't want history repeating; he doesn't want another shredder created out of his son.

but, from what clips ive seen of season 5, it wasn't even necessary. leo and raph do get along while splinter isn't there to project, and that's even happened a bit in the space arc. (only major argument i remember between them in that arc is when they were on the corrupted planet.)

because leo and raph AREN'T splinter and shredder... they're LEO AND RAPH.

they're different people with different morals and motivations. but splinter didn't quite see that.

also, when the tang shen situation was happening, i feel like grandpa hamato was kinda pushed in between the conflict between splinter and shredder; unable to choose just one side to support, but getting pushed to the back either way. i think this parallels with donnie and mikey; they can't chose between leo and raph to support all the time, because they're their brothers. but they get pushed to the back and out of focus; and now also out of splinter's focus specially.

now i have seen those ending clips of season five, and i believe this can be seen as why splinter only hugged leo and karai.

-leo: he still saw himself in. but now, he could also see the success that he himself was unable to achieve.

-karai: his daughter, the one he thought he lost due to the conflict between him and shredder. she was one of the driving forces in the conflict, and came out still on splinter's side.

-raph: while splinter still loves raph dearly, just as i assume he still loves shredder dearly, the dark legacy of the shredder still taints his view of raph unintentionally.

-donnie and mikey: like his father, he loves them both dearly. but, like their grandfather, they ultimately got pushed to the side unintentionally. still loved greatly, just not the main priority.

now, do i think this is all canon? no, it's like 99% likely to not me. i was probably really reaching with this, and it could've just been completely unintentional by writers and just came about because of recycled conflicts. but it is now 6:34 am so i don't care.

thanks for reading lolzies.

[hibiscusbiue]

so i was talking to my friends on google chat but honestly i thought i should repost this entire rant

raph in the 2003 tmnt is one of the more complex characters on the side of the spectrum, while his trauma is all the more real when it comes down to it. his character is relatable in ways that are difficult to see on a surface level, because his surface level character is "angry hotheaded but caring when he is alone with his family"

in reality, DESPITE how aggressive raph is in the first season, it mellows out as the seasons go on. though honestly i think it shouldve increased but whatever

like i mentioned in mikeys rant, raphs biggest fear is himself. in the horror episode i mentioned earlier when theyre kidnapped and put into situations where they have to fight their greatest fear, raph is faced up against the shredder. on a surface level analysis, this seems like "raph is afriad of the shredder", since you know, that would make sense, shredder did almost kill them THOUSANDS of times. though, when raph knocks off the shredders helmet, we see things begin to fall into place and make a lot more sense then before, when it was just the shredder. because underneath that helmet theres his own face, with red eyes, laughing manically. raphaels greatest fear is himself.

and this all checks out. in s1 e4, raph literally almost bashes mikeys head in with a pipe out of anger. he almost KILLS casey out of anger. in other seasons, his impulsiveness has almost gotten them all killed thousands of times. his greatest enemy, his greatest fear, is HIMSELF, because he knows that one day they wouldn't be so lucky. one day someone would get hurt, and it might be because of him. one day someone he cared about was going to die, and it would be his fault.

his insecurities make his anger all the more humane, all the more understandable and relatable. because he's not just angry at his siblings when they push his buttons, hes not just angry at the world for treating them the way it treats them, he's angry at himself for failing to protect his only family, the people he was born and destined to protect.

thats why when mikey almost dies, or even jokes about dying countless times, raphs "tough boy" demeanor collapses. when leo is critically injured, raph fumbles over his words, and he gets angry. he gets incredibly angry at himself and takes it out through his words, saying "who needs him" about leo while hes crying. and thats because hes angry at HIMSELF, he's angry that he brushed off leo being out for hours in the cold rain, he brushed off how long leo was gone, and he failed his brother.

leo and raph arent that drastically different, actually. they get angry at themselves when they fail their family. i think the only big difference between them is that leo is calm and controlled, while raph is like a fire in a sense. also that leo got therapy and he didnt lol

i could be entirely wrong and just over analyzing every single little thing but idk. raph is my little blorbo

[tmntforeverinmyheart]

This Fucking fic updated.

I’m so mad the the 2012 Mikey is abused and is kidnapped by precious perfect rise boys is still going on.

So just to reiterate for any newcomers to my account. >:(

I hate the abused Mikey trope in the tmnt fandom.

He is not abused, he is not a baby, he does not have trauma from his brothers and he takes no shit from anybody when it comes to his family. So if you support this writer, this trope or this fanfic…

Please go away :) or I will block you.

Thankyou

[fabuloustrash05]

“2012 Shredder wasn’t all that bad! He cared about Karai.”

Yeah, cause 16 years of psychological abuse REALLY shows that you care about someone. 

Shredder didn’t care about or even love Karai, he loved what she represented, his revenge and the agony he knew he would inflict on Hamato Yoshi because he is raising Yoshi’s daughter to believe that Yoshi killed her mother, allowing Karai to curse her real father’s name and live her young life in a lie. The second Karai started to break the mold he put her in to represent, he lost it and couldn’t accept Karai being anything else then just his puppet in his plan for revenge.

When Karai did think Shredder was her father, he still wasn’t good to her. He raise her to be a weapon, already going against Tang Shen’s wishes, like bruh, I thought you loved Shen why are you raising her daughter to be something she didn’t want her to be. Also Shredder would disregard Karai most of the time, ignoring her suggestions, ideas and concerns, and goes as far as to threaten her life if she doesn’t do what he says (this was all just in S1 btw).

And then when Karai does learn the truth, Shredder locks her up keeping her in a prison, gaslighting her and saying he’s doing this out of love, putting her in danger, locking her in a cage hanging above mutagen all so he can get his revenge/set a trap on Splinter and the Turtles (he didn’t plan on mutating Karai, it just happened, but the argument is still strong because he still put her in danger), brainwashed her into believing the lie again and having her attack and try to kill her father and brothers, kidnapping her more than once, sending his minions to kill her multiple times, mutating himself so he can kill her, her friends, and family and killing both her mother and later her father.

If Shredder truly cared about Karai, he would have raised Karai Miwa as her Uncle and not lie to Miwa her whole life. Instead, keeping the memory and legacy of both of her parents alive and known to her, with him just being there for her as her Uncle. It could’ve been his way to show is regret for his past actions and sins and trying to, in some way, redeem himself for what he did to his brother and the woman he loved. 

But no, Shredder continued to live in constant denial and blame others for his actions. 

[vexy-hexy]

Rewatching TMNT 2012, and I'm on Turtle Temper, and I'm remembering why I fucking hate this episode

First off, both Raph AND MIKEY are the reason they got caught by the guy. Mikey kept bugging Raph, even though he got at least three warnings from Raph (not verbal, but it's clear he wanted him to stop). Leo didn't even acknowledge that it was Mikey causing problems. He scolded both of them instead of telling Mikey to leave Raph alone, and when the guy came up, Mikey got none of the blame, only Raph

Second, Splinter's an awful parent. "Oh, my son has anger issues? I should get my other son's to shoot arrows at him as they humiliate and insult him to teach him a lesson. That didn't work? Oh, well, I guess I should tell him to "let insults flow over you like a river over stone" instead of working with him to find a healthy way to deal with anger"

Next, "use reason, not force," as if that would work. Splinter of all people should know that some people can't be reasoned with, I mean, he literally just used force against his kid. This guy literally was blackmailing them, and he was literally told to make sure that video didn't get out. The guy could've gotten away during the fight WITH THE VIDEO, of course, Raph is going to go after him, so no, Leo, he didn't leave "just to yell at some guy". He even tried to save him from the kraang, which is more than that miserable dipshit deserved TBH

Lastly, maybe it’s just me, but, as someone who was constantly insulted, mocked, and bullied until I snapped, telling someone that it's their fault for getting angry when someone insults them seems victim blame-y

Look, I love the 2012 series, it's what REALLY got me into TMNT, but I still have a lot of issues with it, especially as a sensitive autistic person who was made to feel guilty for getting mad whenever insulted, and be the only one in trouble in those situations

Anyway, I had to get that out of my system

I should probably clarify that I definitely don’t think Raph is perfect. He definitely has issues, but those issues are never properly addressed and dealt with

[i-just-needed-a-place-to-ramble]

One of the best things about the various iterations of tmnt is how different yet similar each variation of the brothers is. None of them are better than past or future versions, they just go about the same things in their own way. None are abusive, none are perfect, they’re all brothers with their own set of weaknesses and their own set of strengths.

Each variation has some eye brow raising moments where you’re like “hey that one went a little too far there-“ but nothing makes them irredeemable or bad brothers. They’re just brothers - and family isn’t perfect.

[legendsoffandoms]

Hi yall! I’m here for a part three on my Tmnt lgbt hcs :)

I hope you enjoy! I would love to know yours too!

(Photos too!)

;)

[my-name-is-bunnyfoxy]

The treatment of 2012 and Rise Mikey

Whenever I compare the treatment between 2012 and Rise Mikey, it sometimes feels like one is treated inferior and the other superior. What do I mean by that?

In my opinion out of all the Mikey's, 2012 gets treated like the biggest baby ever. He is constantly infantilized due to his ADHD and how people often views him as if he is an abused victim by his brothers. Oh yeah and him being abused by his brothers is not true by the way. People always act as if 2012 needs someone to hold his hand and defend him because he can't. In the rise x 2012 fanfics (while I haven't red any of them besides Unfamiliar Familiar which I gave up after a few chapters), rise are the ones trying to defend 2012 Mikey and even go as far as to I believe even HARM 2012's own brothers. So yeah, 2012 in short is incredibly infantilized and treated like a baby.

MEANWHILE, I've noticed that some people treat Rise Mikey like a literal god who is strong and the most powerful person ever who can TOTALLY win in a fist fight even though the last ronnin literally exists. I believe that due to him having mystic powers and then later we see in the rise movie Mikey unlock his new powers in which he uses to save Leo. I don't know why but I've seen people more treat Rise Mikey like he is the most powerful and the strongest person ever and some have made Mikey look like he is more capable of defending himself and fighting back.

But what weirds me out is Rise Mikey has been confirmed to cannonly be on the ADHD aspect.

So this makes me question. Why is one Mikey who has ADHD, treated like a literal baby who can't defend or save himself even though we have seen time and time again that he is capable of protecting himself and has done various heroic acts and is also quite smart as well, meanwhile the other Mikey who also had ADHD is treated like a literal god with powers all because he has mystic powers and stuff and isn't treated like a baby?

Don't get me wrong- There are some who also infantilize Rise Mikey, but I've been seeing mostly something like this.

It feels as if people are treating one character inferior and the other superior which kind of feels wrong to me. I don't know why. Is it because 2012 Mikey doesn't have cool super mystic god like powers? Or are you just a 2012 Raph hater??

Honestly these aren't the only characters that are treated this way. I've seen many compare the other characters and treat one like they are inferior to the other character who is superior then the other.

It feels as if Rise is put on a pedestal all because they have mystic powers. But because the other characters don't have powers they are suddenly inferior to the other. I don't know why but I really dislike this kind of treatment. Whether what your reason might be I'm sorry but I hate it.

Back to Mikey- What I'm trying to ask is, why do you treat one Mikey like is a baby and can't do anything right because he is a baby meanwhile you treat the other like a god who can save the entire world and universe. I'm sorry it just- it bothers me a whole ton I am not gonna apologize for that.

Feel free to add on to this or possibly say something else that I've missed. This is just my opinion by the way. Don't get mad at me I beg of you. Arguments and conversations are allowed by the way.

[sunny-clover]

Casey Junior Rant {long post}

I love every Casey to the brim almost equally, but the one that wins the tie is definitely Rise Casey Junior. He is my boy and I love him very much, I wish he could live so much happier but I also feel super stressed or upset when people who make fics abt the aftermath of the movie and have him just move on and hardly do anything.

This boy has hardly talked to kids his age before and watched so many of his family members die. He doesn’t get to move on that easy!!!!!

On another note, it’s not that I’m mad about Jr having to go to school in these fics, it’s just that they write it out where he’s excited for school. He’s never been in a stable building that wasn’t built by Uncle Tello! My boy needs to be in there because there was no one else to teach him things he doesn’t already know!!

(In my canon) Everyone except April was homeschooled, even Cass and Jr, there needs to be more representation on his fear and anxiety when he’s around people that aren’t part of his family—or even better!! He needs to be anxious when he’s actually with them too!

On another note, please give this baby comfort and the resources to heal.

Then shove the pain back into his face.

He’s my favorite character, but he’s also my favorite character. (And a teenage boy) He can’t just be ignored! He needs his angsty times too!

Momentarily, I’m gonna praise myself with my idea of having the bean literally ask 0 questions when he sees the teenage version of his dead father who he hasn’t seen in 2-3 years and his immediate reaction is asking for a hug. And then he gets it!!!! He gets his hug, and then falls asleep, and while he’s sleeping his dads go through a sweet banter-y scene that would have happened when he was a child too.

IN CONCLUSION

He lives in constant deja-vu now that he entered a new timeline, don’t play it down for him.

He’s a teenager who watched the world die once, then went back in time to watch it almost happen again. Everything is painful to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for reading my rant <3

[crystal-crax]

A RANT:

THE NEON LEON

(I) A rise to leadership

Pun intended bc Leo would love it

Has this been done yet? Of course, but i love ranting about my favorite characters and boy, rise tmnt has so much to rant about (well, the whole tmnt franchise has enough material to speak for HOURS buttt rise lives forever in my heart so yeah i'm biased). Might talk about mutant mayhem in the future idk.

Leonardo Hamato/Splinterson has always been the leader, the one that carries the weight of carrying the team and following splinter's steps as the next "head" of the family (as said by splinter in the 2012 tmnt). And yeah in much of the versions of the turtles, this is a very important aspect of his personality, it's his literal purpose; it's the catalyst for a lot of the narratives and storylines seen across the tmnt universe: His fights with Raph, his anxiety, his inferiority complex, his constant wish to be better, how he sometimes neglects (or simply goes against?)his brother's feelings in order to keep them and the team itself safe.

Being the leader is both the weight and medal that comes with being Leonardo, that sisyphean task that we will always see try to accomplish over and over again.

So if we want to explore why he is a great leader... shouldn't we take that weight off his shoulders?

And that my people, it's what rise does perfectly. The best way to prove that Leo is a great leader? To show us how he can handle the team from the shadows, let us see how well he knows his team's strengths and shortcomings.

But don't just make him want to be the leader, no no, show us why we should all trust him to.

First of all: Leo panicking at the face of danger, might be useful sometimes.

Honest to god: i think the rise writers and animators are amazing. They're so GOOD at showing us important pieces of the characters even without directly saying it.

First of all, he doesn't have a fight or flight response because he straight up waves his ōdachi directly at anything that attacks him and his brothers (bro has kill om sight sense, he literally sliced warren one time, remember?). He will always have the advantage, even when surprised. Also the way he lightens up the situation with his witty banter and one liners when stress is too much? Extra points for keeping team morale up👍

Or in a different case, leo's panic when the mad dogs get in trouble upon a stronger rival. Why is it great? Because even though he's losing his absolute shit, he's able to act and take the next conscious step; even when it's used for laughs: He calls for his father when his family is in danger. It may sometimes be a funny gag ; like in "Flushed but never forgotten" or soul fucking wrenching like when they're attacked by shredder and RAPH IS PROTECTING DONNIE AND LEO SCREAMS AND I- *ehem*. But he knows splinter it's capable of defending them, he trained them after all (this may be arguable when talking about season 1 splint but well, he still recognizes his father as a ninja and his master).

And thus, the next marvel of Leo:

B) He's completely aware of the team's abilities

He's a middle child, he has seen everything, and the most perfect example of it: Many unhappy returns.

BOY IF THAT'S NOT THE MOST AMAZING DEMONSTRATION OF LEO'S LEADERSHIP AND STRATEGY IDK WHAT ELSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR

He trusts his siblings completely, sure he looks out for them and supports them when needed (while being sarcastic about it), but he knows they're amazing at the hero thing.

I wouldn't doubt it if Splinter; being with Leo most of the episode saw just how in control he was of the situation and went: "dude...why are you not the one leading the team? You're...actually so smart wtf????"

C)He knows how to dial down his brother's enthusiasm and calls out his father's faults (and sometimes hypocrisy)

Remember the paper thieves episode?

That's peak leader Leo

The whole team was full on trying to get killed for the lols, and what does he do? Pulls them to the side and explains why they should start with something more simple and gives a speech on why focusing on the "easier task" it's still a good hero job (look out for the small/weaker ones, right?)

Not only that, but he's the one that constantly calls out his dad's mess ups, remaining by his brother's side and defending them (THIS IS NOT A SPLINTER SLANDER, I'M SAD DAD SUPPORTER AND I WILL TALK ABOUT IT LATER) seen as one of the YouTube shorts or when splints nags then about keeping secrets from him: he stands for his team, "you are not supposed to do that/you do the same thing you yell at us for"

He both inspires and defends his team, and hey; a leader is not the one that orders, but the one that motivates and supports you.

D) He's their personal hype man

Cue back to point B, he is amazed by his siblings abilities, even if he dies hide it sometimes. Remember when mikey wanted to go on a solo mission? He's fully on board and never doubts mikey is in control of the situation (sure he does go to "save him" with the others later on but come on, you all heard the call and saw Raph panicking. He trusts him but he's still his little brother y'know?)

He knows Donnie is an absolutely genious and is completely aware of Raph's dedication to the hero gig and responsability.

April and Splints? He knows they're completely capable of holding their own and willingly helps them when the situation calls for it.

And this is it please be free to add anything you might like and tell me if i'm making sense??? Idk i just love him a lot😞

HECK EVEN CASEY, A LITERAL BOY HE JUST MET. He is aware of casey's passion and abilities; i mean, if his own future self trusts him as the only one capable to fix everything, why shouldn't he?

Conclusion: Leo quite literally grew to deserve the role of the leader.

[mimjandoodlesstuff]

Me @ the cowaboomers who complain about every new version of TMNT: