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bentbox-co · 7 months ago
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s0fter-sin · 6 months ago
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rewatching s1 and in ep2 w*ndigo, dean makes a joke about not bringing provisions into the woods just to pull out a bag of peanut butter m&m’s and stick with me here, it’s why the later seasons’ “goofy dean” loses me
this moment is clearly a joke but if you think about it too much, it also makes some sense; a family size bag of peanut m&m’s is calorie dense and even the high sugar is good to keep you moving which they need on an overnight hunt. it also shows how due to their upbringing, they’ve had to eat lower quality food, things they always had access to that was cheap and also in bulk
what does dean eating ghost pepper jerky then tipping water on himself exist for other than to be a cringy joke? what does smelling old chinese food, testing to see if it's still good then shaking his head with cabbage hanging out his mouth when it isn't serve? it's just to make him look stupid and contrast sam's healthy/clean diet (and superiority but that’s another conversation) which has always existed but it used to be nuanced and natural
we see dean as a child give up the food he wanted to eat so sam could eat it. (“i’m sick of spaghetti-os,” “you’re the one who wanted them,” … “i want lucky charms!” “… there’s only enough for one bowl and i haven’t had any yet!” proceeds to give them to sam, 1x18) we know he hustled and stole food to ensure sam ate. (“so, what’d he take?” “get this- peanut butter and bread.” 9x07)
we also see throughout the early seasons dean teasing sam about his salad or healthy choice while he eats some form of burger or other fast food (or notably, cheerfully eating prison food that sam won’t touch, 2x19). it's typical sibling teasing but it also shows that it isn't new for sam to eat like that and for dean to know he eats like that
sam being picky isn't just a character trait they chose for him, it's a result of how dean raised him; he raised him to like and want healthy food and be food secure enough to reject food he didn't want
but dean eats anything he is given and seeks out unhealthy - cheap, plentiful, filling - food
he is the opposite of picky to the point of it being a consistent bit; they show him multiple times eating when it's socially frowned upon to do so eg. questioning a grieving victim when they're trying to be discreet (1x14, 2x15, 2x18)
a similar moment to the chinese food is in 4x19; dean wakes up in the car while sam brushes his teeth outside and is hungry. sam says there's a sandwich in the backseat, dean smells it and recoils bc it's an old tuna sandwich. the moment is funny on its own but it also exists as a comparison of their lives to adam's; he has a loving mother, goes to school and importantly, a steady stable childhood
it’s a joke with a purpose
it also supports dean's food insecurity; he wakes up and is immediately hungry, enough to complain about it and seek out food before anything else
dean is always hungry bc he never has access to nutritionally rich foods bc he got used to using the money he earned to buy sam's more expensive food. he got used to his cheaper, denser foods and grew up with (and continues to live with) intermittent access to said foods. think of how long it takes to drive from one state to another; how many hours it can take to see another town that offers food, if you arrive at a reasonable enough time for anything to be open. also think how they can’t keep any food beyond what fits in an esky; nothing that needs defrosting, nothing can be heated up. it’s bags and jars and take out for as long as they can trust it
then they get the bunker which has its own kitchen
dean even describes himself as "nesting" when he decorates his room, something he hasn't had since he was four years old, and he uses said kitchen to cook a burger from scratch that he is proud of. he is food secure for the first time in his life and it shows in how often he cooks for both himself and sam
so these moments where they have him acting goofy regarding food are no longer character driven and only exist as a joke which is why they come across as cringy and out of character compared to similar earlier moments
a lot of my issues with dean's characterisation started when they introduced the bunker. the argument can and is made that the reason these jokes happen is bc he feels safe in the bunker, that bc he now has a home he can relax and unmask but that still doesn't feel sufficient. they crank up these sillier moments for both of them, giving them a sort of playing house comedy vibe of two roommates with completely different personalities but it doesn't feel like an authentic progression. it feels forced; an attempt at humour for humour's sake
food stopped being an informed part of their characters and their trauma and instead became flanderised; sam is the judgy vegetarian health nut and dean is his borderline slovenly carnivore counterpart
#12 yr old dean throwing a bag of veggie chips at sams head and saying ‘dont forget your vegetables’ actually makes me want to scream#sam not knowing or not acknowledging how much dean did for him throughout their childhood kills me#hes always saying how bad it was or later on saying at least john did his best#it wouldve been so much worse if dean was just a little more resentful#its not limited to the later seasons ill fully admit that#it literally became a plot point in s7 with the leviathans infecting the corn syrup and dean complaining about eating ‘rabbit food’#bc hes ‘a warrior’ and needs his ‘road food’ while sam brings him to a farmers market#it comes up in at least two seperate episodes and it started to annoy me then too trust me it already felt ooc#its not just food moments either; i hate the food socks and his robe and playing with the sword too#whenever they decide to make him act stupid to help bolster sams smarts and maturity#something that used to be naturally occurring without tearing dean down bc deans smart too and was literally parentified hes plenty mature#the narrative tries so hard to make dean the dumb fighter and sam the book nerd and its such a disservice to both of them#dean isnt an idiot and not just about hunting; he has a favourite author and an encyclopaedic knowledge of music and movies#hes just as learned about sam when it comes to hunting and the show used to have that; even correcting sam and explaining things to him#and sams had plenty of one on one fight scenes AND fight scenes against dean that are almost always draws#you cant show them with this nuance then act like it never existed#i remember bitch#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#carry on my wayward son#talk meta to me#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester#meta#save post#supernatural meta
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spindleanddye · 3 months ago
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2025 Garden line up 👨‍🌾
What are y'all growing this year?
I also impulse bought a ton of flax seed a while back with the plan of growing flax to spin but I dont think ill have the room for that this year...
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hr-twink · 5 months ago
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idea: Spider survives the head smash but suffers severe brain trauma that limits his mobility and gives him seizures, nosebleeds, yk the drill. Because he lived (again) and getting mega sued by him for the whole tiger team thing isnt great, Taverner agrees to hire him back but relegated to slough house so he can have an income/be somewhere she can keep an eye on him. Spider isn't an agent but kinda works the way catherine did. He recovers enough to go back to work just after season 4 ends, so he "takes marcus's place" (how they describe newcomers in the books id never be that rude to him.) Obviously Shirley isn't happy about this but when she realizes River hates Spider it makes her like him (because shes kinda mad at River because his assassin family fucked up her life.) She also likes Spider because they're both small and deranged and wlw/mlm solidarity. She quickly realizes the river spider situation because she has eyes, and just fucks with them constantly. Louisa and Spider start getting along after she beats him up a little/booby traps his desk or something.
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fisheito · 9 months ago
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i can't look at him i can't look at him i can't look at him i won't i can't im not allowed to why is he I CANNOT
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i-really-like-phrogs · 10 months ago
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While I have many, many gripes about the annoying love triangles and horrid characterization in Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian; One thing I did enjoy was Cactus— a Joshua tree transformed into a beautiful girl by the Juiceman himself. The idea was so fun, and what can I say? I’ve got a special place in my heart for a bubbly lover girl!
I wanted her to be a little younger than what the script implies, (around mid-teen), so I ditched the bikini for a one-peice. It took me SO MANY drafts before I found an outfit I liked, but I’m really happy with how she turned out!
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dragonsballsz · 2 years ago
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realized a second ago that bardock's name sneakily fits into the son family theme and i'm going to need some time to process that.
to elaborate:
goku (悟空) and his sons gohan (悟飯) and goten (悟天) all have the same first character (悟, read as go).
bardock, rather obviously, is named after the vegetable burdock. more specifically, after the greater burdock, or arctium lappa, which is very common in japan. his name, バーダック (bādakku) is just the japanese transliteration of the english word.
what's the japanese word? ゴボウ. 牛蒡. gobou. 悟蒡.
he was one of them all along.
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pinkinsect · 10 months ago
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What is shidou's problem
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autisticlalna · 10 months ago
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heya Leo, i just binged all of vikings resonance smp and was wondering if you knew why he stopped streaming it? did he just get too busy? because i love Viki Pea and he is in my mind now lmao Also I ask you because i think you seem to archive everything so you mightve heard something lol,
sadly Resonance is the one thing i dont know a lot about because it happened while i was drifting away from being able to keep up with streams, and tbh Resonance's lack of documentation is part of what spurred us to get hugely into archival because SO MUCH happened that is completely evaporated now. i think Myni's death is completely gone, which sucks.
i think maybe Viking got busy or otherwise stuff came up (he did get pretty sick during Res), and now so much has happened in Resonance (it's still going! holy hell) that it'd be difficult for Viki to make a comeback without Viking being incredibly out of the loop. Viki gets mentioned now and then, but a full comeback doesn't seem like it's in the cards.
Twitch chat decided that he's chilling in the void and has befriended Blue, and he did very briefly show up as part of Viking's surprise skin roulette though!
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anhonestdaysworkcomic · 1 year ago
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i've done so much research on medieval farming and all it's gotten me is more questions
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scribefindegil · 2 years ago
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My ulterior motive with Heretic AU is forcing all my readers to learn facts about brassicas
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changing-my-username · 1 year ago
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First a lettuce, then a turnip. Why are all of Liz Truss' enemies vegetables?
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dapperrokyuu · 2 years ago
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Read ~60 chapters of Chainsaw Man today, WHEWWWWW-
#dee p thoughts#overall review so far: pretty good. author's style is very distinct and potentially offputting/unhinged so I 1000% get someone not liking#this for that reason. theres a lot of food for thought to chew on among it so I enjoy it tho. but I do think the plot in terms of arcs and#how they tie into character development/progression can be very...fast and sudden? couldve used more time to make the progressions more#gradual and natural feeling imo which is where I think the anime expanding on scenes enhances this. ex: aki's care for power and denji is#very sweet but it also feels a bit sudden in terms of...well how to word this? like it ultimately MAKES SENSE but the turning point makes i#feel like his care stems from them almost dying reminding him of himeno as opposed to. caring about them afdadljbkndlkj- yes its establishe#that aki views denji kind of as a little brother but they couldve had the trio cook a little longer imo like at that point I dont really#feel aki has had much connection to power either tbh but...I get it I get why lol-#THO I WILL GIVE THAT THE SUDDENNESS FEELING MAY STEM FROM ME READING ~60 CHAPTERS YEAH. just like? denji's relationship with makima has mor#gradual progression than the trio's imo which makes sense but we should strengthen the trio bond for extra impacttt-#thinking deeper I do think aki has individual moments with denji and power has individual moments with denji so its probably the lack of ak#interacting with power that makes me feel the trio isnt fully baked lol. kind of just shown annoyance and then happiness at her not throwin#vegetables and now you dont want her to die I guess thats what makes me feel something is missinggg#which makes sense at the end of the day I guess? whats important is their relationship with denji not each other? but eh still I guess we'l#jot this down as a personal preference of mine
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mantisgodsdomain · 1 year ago
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Apparently there's a fic reading challenge thing this year, but after doing a quick skim of the goals... we don't think we'll be touching it with a ten-foot stick. Some of these goals put a VERY bad taste in our mouth. The idea of a "diversity checklist" isn't supposed to be... literal, we don't think? No? We're remembering that one quote about "listening to people of color being like eating your vegetables for white activists" and we're feeling like it may actually have been understating whatever the hell is going on here.
#we speak#also really funny to be seeing shit like “read fic from a fandom with under 250 works”. buddy we're WRITING for one of those#but also like. “read a fic where the main character is BIPOC”. “read a fic where the main character is neurodivergent"#“read a fic that passes the bechdel test”.#like we get the INTENT we guess but we're not in the target audience AT ALL#and a whole fuckin lot of the goals here are very romance focused up against us a guy who deliberately filters out ships#we're also really concerned that “passes the bechdel test” is a bar for fic but also we know The Scene here#and “passing the mako mori test”. is indeed a difficult one to find in a lot of fandoms#as someone who tends to like female characters we notice this. A Fucking Lot#we are so insanely picky with fic bc even with ao3's tagging system we need to slog through dozens of fics to find one good one#and a lot of the time we. REALLY don't have the patience for fic that doesn't have decent depictions for the gals#you have no clue how much zel da fic especially we drop for being Really Fucking Weird About Gender (in a bad way)#sometimes we forget that people exist in bigger fandoms that actually have fic reading habits like this#we feel like we're in another dimension. what do you mean you guys live like this#also what. does “deals heavily (and healthily) with a mental illness” mean. you guys arent just reading this to eat ur vegetables right?#...right???#anyways reading through things like “read fics with all the major LGBTQIA2 identities” is giving us hives#if you read our fic then we beg of you read it because it sounds like it has a nice plot not just like. because Some Guy is ace or intersex#please. gender identity should NOT be that much of a priority. read through and flag on the weird gender shit and go “oh thats queer!”#or “oh thats like me” or “oh (whatever)” but please. there are so many things here more relevant than shit like sexuality.#we need to go read through our fics and make sure we dont have any overly modern lingo in there#if you want to know about a characters sexuality or gender identity figure it out yourself from. fuck we dont know. psychic beams.#though we rationally know the reason that things in modern queer spaces are so often Like This its still poison to our brain#and we want nothing to do with it#negative chatter
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pomodoriyum · 1 month ago
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jesus christ. good fire mitigation does NOT mean eliminating every green thing near your home, especially if you live in a grassland or semi-arid area, holy fucking shit. like yes. you are reducing the fire load if there's a really hot fire passing thru your area. but you're also drastically increasing the likelihood of fire in the first place by drying out the soil and increasing the ground temperature in the first place. AND you're increasing your energy expenditure on cooling while ALSO REMOVING ORGANISMS THAT REDUCE CO2 CONTENT IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND COOL AIR TEMPS (also a fire reducing tactic. by y'know. cooling things off AND KEEPING THE SOIL MOIST).
like, there are possibly places where removing vegetation near homes is a good idea. parts of california and desert border areas may be good examples of this. but please for the love of fuck if you don't live in a desert don't remove living vegetation that's near your house, unless it's part of a carefully considered brush-clearing operation in like. an urban and urban-interface space. please for the love of fuck have nuance about these things. I KNOW people are running scared because of the horrific fires that have been raging due to hundreds of years of land mismanagement (due to colonialist genocide and exploitative capitalism). but there is a lot of information being spread around like a one-shoe-fits-all-ecosystems, and that's just not fucking true.
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horridwizardthing · 3 months ago
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maybe i'll make tarot cards illustrations for the other characters in fruit wars we'll see
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