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10 Crime Shows With Terrible Endings
From great short-lived shows like Veronica Mars to long-running hits like Criminal Minds, some crime shows failed to impress in their final season.
The more successful a series is the harder it is for the show to conclude in a way that satisfies the dedicated fans and watchful critics. While many crime shows start on a high note that draws the viewers in, the finale of the overarching plot has to end with enough thrills and satisfactory justice to convince the audience.
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After the highly controversial conclusion of the revival, it's safe to say this crime series is unredeemable.
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laufire · 1 year
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often part of my hate for a character is fueled by the reaction they awaken in the audience, and/or the perception that the writers REALLY want me to love them and think they're the best, most heroic guys ever.
other times the way a character is written is clearly meant to embody literally everything I hate, with purpose, and boy. I won't think about them while I'm not watching/reading the source material, or remember them when I make my "top most hated" lists... but once they enter my view again or get name-dropped, the homicidal rage is back on in full force!
this post has been brought to you by a conversation about veronica mars with a friend that reminded me of just how much I wanted sheriff (don) lamb to die (and he did! because sometimes, tv-land is generous like that). but I also appreciated that he was written specifically in this way, with no pulled punches. because if they'd softened him even a little? it wouldn't be the wonderfully cynic little show that it excels at being.
like, in particular, I'm remembering the moment weevil BEGGED him to let him walk up the stage at his graduation, so that his ailing grandmother could finally see him do it, before he arrested him. it would have taken less than half a minute. and lamb refused because he's a vindictive, callous little man. and because veronica mars is not about giving its audience warm fuzzy feelings by trying to convince us that people are good and understanding and really really caring, deep down! they're selfish and mean and petty; real goodness and kindness is rarer than gold and will take you (and veronica herself) aback every time you encounter it. but most of the time? it wants you to see just how shitty and unfair the world is and react to it, with nothing cushy to soften the fall. and it's a better story for it, imo.
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joey-potters · 2 years
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definitely don’t watch s4 of vmars but do watch the movie!! s3 is rocky but the movie is so fucking good it precedes the revival and is actually well done
Hey Isabel!
My aunty is a huge Veronica Mars fan and she told me to watch the movie so will definitely be, now that I've finished S3.
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whitesunlars · 5 years
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when your best friend is murdered before your seventeenth birthday, you don't develop a keen sense of mercy.
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multi-babii · 5 years
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Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell really said that they did it just because it would be boring in the future.
They don't realise that I would watch that show even if they would be domesticated happy couple. I'm dead.
And Rob Thomas said that he wanted to rid of "teenage drama".
Like, I don't have much experience with relationship but I thought that mature, adult, stable relationship is not "teenage drama".
I'm still not okay.
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ilovecelebrities · 5 years
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2019 MTV Video Music Awards - Red Carpet
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Why Veronica Mars broke my heart.
Ok let’s start this. Everything I’m going to write is my opinion, how I felt and my views on season 4. And it’s the first time I’m writing anything that I want to make “public”, but I’m honestly doing it for myself more than anything.
To start with logic, let’s talk about the story of season 4. Some part of the mystery was not too bad, but to be honest it was quite messy. I think it was a bit much for an 8-episodes season and I don’t really think the thing about the Mexican cartel was necessary, and let’s be real, I felt it was a bit racist, but I won’t say more about it because I’m not Mexican/Latina nor American and I don’t feel it’s my place to say anything about it. The bombing of Neptune during spring break could have been brilliant, and the idea of it being link with the debate in town was a great reminder that Neptune was a place with no middle class, which is also the root of the show. But the going back and forth about who the suspects are and the motivation behind all that just confused the hell out of me. I think this is the first issue in the writing of the new season.
The second issue I see in the writing is how Veronica was portrayed. It’s like they forgot who she was, everything she went through and survived. I felt that her relation with Keith is still strong but a bit off; it felt like Veronica was still a teenager. Let’s not mention how she is ignoring and judging Wallace for having a family and a house and showing it as something boring; and the big mess with Weevil. But let’s take a quick second to thank Tina for not getting into this mess. Her friends were so important to her, and that’s also why we loved her. Also her rejecting and making fun of Logan for going to therapy and encouraging her to do the same, like isn’t she suppose to have a degree in Psychology? I couldn’t read the books completely because season 4 came before I could finish them, and I’m not really in the mood for anymore VM right now, but in the movie she was so different than how she was in the new season. The other issue I have, like many fans, is with the alcohol and drug use. Everybody can do whatever they want of course, and even more if everything is legal, but this is so out of character. She was raped because of alcohol and drug. Her mom was an alcoholic and she saw it destroy her family. And this is just in season one. The only time we saw Veronica drinking was in the movie and it was one drink and a beer. If you just really think for a minute you can see the issue. I’ve love this character for a good portion of my life, and I couldn’t recognize her. And I know they wanted to make things more adult, but you can do that without completely destroying everything who’ve built before. Also she has been a PI for so long now, in what world, would she not check her car?  There is just no logic to that and you can’t tell me otherwise. Her relationship with Logan had issues too. Like I said the thing about therapy is problematic. But the whole angry sex scene was so wrong. He’s actively trying to get better, to heal his anger, and the only thing she wants is old Logan, when in the previous seasons, particularly in the third, she was so judgmental of everything he was and did. This is just messy writing, and a lack of consistency. And every problems or fights they had just disappeared and they just didn’t really talk about it. If you want to make Veronica more adult, let’s start with her acting like an adult in a stable relationship, which she was suppose to be at the beginning of the new season. It’s not like we decided that it was who she was, you put her in that place.                             Also telling us that Veronica is more interesting when traumatised, telling that no matter what you do you won’t ever be able to access happiness, that a married woman is not as sexy or interesting; I can go on and on and on. We are in 2019, your show used to be something people brought up when talking about woman on TV, about feminism, and you absolutely destroy that. You just showed us that you know nothing about feminism and what women go through. And the fact that you protagonist is a woman doesn’t change anything about that. A woman doesn’t have to be a survivor of sexual assault to be strong; a woman doesn’t have to be single to be independent; a woman doesn’t have to have multiple sexual partners to be sexy.
But you know what, as a fan of the show for 15years, I was bothered by all that maybe I could have accept it as just flaws, without it completely ruining the new season for me, and hoping they’ll improve her character in a potential season 5. And honestly I thought I was going to rewatched it over and over so I was not really focused on the problems, but on the fact that I was watching new episodes of Veronica Mars, which is something I didn’t think was possible.                     But they had to kill Logan with no respect, the best character of the whole show, no matter what people say. He went from a proper jackass, a bully, and a victim of abuse, to an adult in the process of healing, with a career no one expected. And also, he was not just part of the relationship with Veronica; he was also a character that we loved on his own. Of course he was an awful person at the beginning of the show, but first he wasn’t the only one (let’s not forget Duncan please thank you and Leo who sold the tapes of Lily and Aaron, which apparently everyone in the writers room forgot) and I’m never going to ignore that, but you can’t deny the changes he made, and his real motivation to get better and this is not something you can say about Veronica in season 4. You know what I need as a victim of traumatic event?  To Heal. I’m getting there, it is hard work and this how Veronica should be in season 4, but who was in that place? Logan. But you decided that it was not enough.
I don’t know what happen behind the scene, and I’m not going to speculate about that, but Jason did such a good job portraying Logan, from the start to the end. And his death was unfair, to Jason first, and to the fans. And what was even more unfair, is the lack of closure and grief that was giving to us. We just saw a character that we loved for 15 years blow up after a wedding that we weren’t sure we were going to have and nothing. Of course, I think you can kill major character in show, if the motivations are good, and the death is going to improve the story and/or a character but you have to do it properly. Because otherwise you’re not doing it for the good reasons. I can give you examples of shows that killed major character and did it properly : How to get away with Murder killed one of the main character and we had a whole season dedicated to that death and Laurel’s grief ; Peaky Blinder, and it was quite violent yet still acceptable, proof that you can have a violent end and still do it respectably ; Desperate Housewives killed one of the most important character in one of the last episodes of the show, a fan favourite but we had some time of grief, with a funeral and how every other character had to deal with this death ; Downton Abbey killed not one but two major character in one season ; Grey’s Anatomy is known for killing major character but every time we had closure and grief for us and from the characters ; and to go on the SF side, Game of Thrones did it better than Veronica Mars, which wants to make me laugh. And Glee, for which the death was real, was able to respect their fans, actors, crew and everyone who was devastated by the passing of Cory Monteith.
I completely support that the creators and the writers are free to do what they want with what they created.  I honestly believe that if Logan had to die for the show to keep going; I don’t agree but it was Rob freedom to do so. But there were a million better ways to do it without being disrespectful to the actor, the character and the fans. Because yes, a show without an audience, and without fans is nothing. That is why brilliant TV shows get cancelled and mediocre show can go on for ten years. A vocal fandom and audience is what’s keeping a show alive.  And when you look at the facts, the Veronica Mars fandom is what made everything possible. Without us, Veronica Mars would have disappeared in the world of cancelled show with good potential but that didn’t have a lot of success. I couldn’t give to the Kickstarter campaign, because I didn’t have a bank account at that time but I bought the complete collection of Veronica Mars when I was a broke student, and I can tell you 45€ is a lot of money, I bought my Team Logan t-shirt, I bought the books, I put my money in it because I wanted to show I was supporting Veronica Mars, and I wanted more. As soon as I heard on Kristen’s Instagram that it was coming back, I was absolutely ecstatic. I followed every account on every platform I was on. I commented on Instagram to express how happy and grateful I was and this is something I never do. I couldn’t stop talking about it to my friends, even though they don’t really watch it. The week before the surprise release I was non-stop on Veronica Mars. I haven’t been excited about anything for a long, long time. And it was destroyed in 10 minutes.
And as you know we can fight to have our show back, but we can also do everything we can to make sure that Hulu and Rob, and everyone involve know how we feel. And ignoring us on social media won’t stop us from expressing our thoughts and feelings. And for the first time you can see fans fighting to end the show we’ve been supporting for so long. After season 4, I can assure you that I’d rather give the movie and the books back so my favourite show would not be ruined for me. And if Rob thinks that the mystery is why we were all watching, he is so wrong. Being a PI is part of Veronica’s character, not everything about her. Her relations and the other characters are what we loved about the show. The mystery part of it was nice sometime, and could be well written, especially in season 1, but this was not the heart of the show, no matter what Rob is saying. He says he wants to make a show 100% about mystery and a detective. My mom loves police shows; she watches everything, Murder she Wrote, every fucking CSI, Criminal Mind, Cold Case, really shitty French Show,...and I can assure you she still watches for the characters. Because no matter the story you’re telling, the characters are the heart of it.
The first feeling I had after spending a whole night watching the new season was real sadness. I think I cry for over an hour. I was truly heartbroken. I’m not in a really good place emotionally at the moment and I was so looking forward to this, I cannot even begin to explain what it did to me. The next week I almost didn’t sleep, and I was a real mess. I had some family that was visiting and all I could think about was a fucking TV show. But when the interviews and videos started to come out, I was absolutely pissed. It felt like a betrayal. Telling us this is what we need, saying Logan was a sacrificial lamb, saying Veronica is in that place now, that they’ll be no grieving. We are adult now; we are not children throwing a stupid tantrum. And presenting us as angry fan girl, who are just pissed because our ship is over is so fucking sexist. And even if we are pissed about that, which I also am, what is the problem? We can love a relation and the character, and still be a “good fan”. Also can we talk about how you used Logan and LoVe in the promo, the trailer, all the social media, to make sure the fans who love LoVe where going to watch. This is manipulating your audience, and from the bottom of my heart, fuck you.
I use to associate Veronica Mars with something positive, a safe space, where my problems were not real, now it’s a lot of pain, regret, rage. The only good thing about all that is the community, you know the fans that you don’t care about anymore. People from all over the world; supporting each other, checking on each other, loving each other. You honestly had one of the best Fan Base behind you Rob, and you just gave us the biggest fuck off of all time. You say you made a bet, and that you hope the fan won’t hate you for it. I can tell you, even if you have a season 5, you still lost.      
Because you lost us; and our support.
It’s been a month, and I’m only able to finish writing that now, and it still feels really fresh. I’m still devastated, and angry, and betrayed and so many emotion that I never thought I would associate with Veronica Mars; yet here we are.
And to Rob, and Hulu, of anyone that worked on this, please no more, no season 5, no more social media post. You didn’t give us grieving, so please now leave us alone.
I’m sure it was not really well written, and that I forgot a shit ton of stuff but this is what I think and feel, and if anyone read this, I hope this will maybe give comfort, like reading everyone else’s opinions helped me a bit. Like I said to a dear writer that I love, like always we will get through this together.
@hulu @officialveronicamarsonhulu
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dimplesandaccent · 5 years
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I HAVE WAITED 12 YEARS FOR THIS. 12 FUCKING YEARS. I LOVED THIS SHOW MORE THAN ANY PIECE OF TV THERE IS. VERONICA IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER OF ALL TIME. LoVe IS MY FAVORITE SHIP EVER WHO BTW DESERVED THE FUCKING WORLD MORE THAN ANYBODY AFTER EVERY FUCKED UP SHIT THEY WENT THROUGH. I TRUSTED THIS SHOW WITH ALL MY HEART TO NOT DISAPPOINT ME. AFTER 12 YEARS OF AN AGONIZING BREAK THIS IS THE ENDING I GOT??? YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS WHAT WE DESERVED??? FUCK. YOU.
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xtltokio · 5 years
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My sister just finished season 4 and came out with the best plot for season 5.
Logan Echolls is a Mars now. Keith was retiring. Logan & Veronica Mars working together on Mars investigation.
We could have it all.
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This one feels like a gut punch.
I am just so damn sad about vmars and the fate of Logan. This show has meant so much to me since I was first introduced to it 13 years ago. Like so many others I was so bummed by the season 3 finale and when the movie happened it was like a salve to my weary marshmallow soul.
Now here we are and I feel like I'm grieving a real person in some ways. I know that sounds ridiculous, but this character has been beloved by myself and so many others. I know I probably take fictional characters too seriously, but they have always been my escape. This one just really hurts. My heart hurts for Veronica. My heart hurts for a character that has been through so much trauma and finally opened her heart only to have it smashed. My heart hurts for Logan who had overcome so much and was finally in a good place.
Damn it. I'm just so sad and I hate it.
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I accidentally saw spoilers for Veronica Mars and now I want to fucking cry
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sorceresscirce · 5 years
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lmao what do folks live in an alternate universe or smthing bc there's definitely no fourth season of vmars??? the movie was great y'all why we trying to ruin a good thing
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whitesunlars · 5 years
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logan echolls: king of forehead kisses
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lilychestnut · 5 years
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Life hack: if I don’t watch Veronica Mars season 4 I can pretend it doesn’t exist!!!
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