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[gendertreyf]

posting just for the sake of saying things 💛

i have no issue with the objective existence of those recently created terms for jewish trans people (nivrah bein hashmashot & ovri) like i think, separate from context, they are potentially beautiful and meaningful. but the basis upon which they were coined--that trans perisex people using traditional jewish sex terminology is inaccurate/stealing--is just false. imo relies on a very modern-western understanding of separation between sex and gender, as well as being just factually untrue & ignoring a lot of history and literature. it only values (and interprets in a Specific Way...) very early/talmudic era writings which is Not the only source of tradition (of course a zionist would think so though)

also, words can be physically-oriented while still applying to trans people. i would say trans people are pretty famous for changing our bodies and hormonal functions through human intervention, which is explicitly a way that your jewish sex can change. see my flag post for the jewish sexes for more of my thoughts/findings around that

and of course i would be remiss to breeze past the fact that the person who originally posted these terms that people are making flags for now is a zionist fascist freak and should not be taken seriously, interacted with, or even acknowledged. his opinions on judaism mean absolutely nothing to me and his thoughts on jewish tradition are steeped in western and white supremacist influence

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🌈✡️ : JEWGENDER

This flag is DIRECTLY referenced/inspired by @gendertreyf 's flags for the Jewish cultural genders/sexes, please also support his lovely original work!

Image IDs in alt text!

Jewgender is a Jewish culturally-exclusive xenogender, meaning you may only use this term/flag if you are Jewish (inclusive of patrilineal Jews, secular, converts, etc - a Jew is a Jew!). Credit for use of the flag in pfps, banners, etc is appreciated but not necessary. Please credit back to this post if you make edits of or take inspiration from this flag! Goyim/non-Jews may interact and share, but please do not use or clown in the reblogs/replies. Someone who identifies as Jewgender may do so for any number of reasons, Including but not limited to:

Feeling connected to one or more of the eight genders/sexes listed in the Talmud, including both adam and hamah. Someone who identifies with multiple of the listed sexes/genders may do so due to gender fluidity, intersex identity, or other personal experiences.

Feeling connected to Jewishness itself: be it culture, religion and/or secularism, social justice, history, etc. This gender indicates a deep tie to Jewishness at your core, inherently intertwining itself with your gender and the way you carry yourself through the world.

As a punk/alternative gender - to piss off transphobes, goyim, etc.

All of the above, or another reason entirely. Again, a Jew is a Jew!

Versions of the flag listed above include the standard blank flag, the stripes and their meanings (again - these were directly referenced from the aforementioned flags!), an alternative flag that include "b'tzelem elohim" and "tzedek tirdof", and a Bundist /Jewish Labor Bund Jewgender flag.

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ik i havent done anything here in like a full year but i just came back and checked notifs and apparently zionists and both-sides-ers are reblogging my jewish genders flags and we're Not gonna do that. what i'll suggest instead is you can actually kill yourselves

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what does “pebble” mean in the context of your pinned post?

pebble is like, almost stone, or conditionally stone. for example, being a stone bottom in hookups and most relationships, but with one long term partner you've been comfortable topping a few times. or being a stone top with regards to penetration but being ok with receiving Direct Head, or someone using their hands on you, or something, which not all stones are ok with. it basically presents a place inbetween, if 100% stone or 100% not stone isn't quite communicative of your experience or desires. same with "buzzed," which has the same usage but for "high" (as in "high femme," instead it'd be "buzzed femme.") not that it's necessary to ever call yourself pebble/buzzed instead of stone, if you like just using stone! either of the example situations i posited would be perfectly fine with just "stone" or "high" as well. it's just an option. :-)

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transfem butch lesbian and transmasc butch lesbian!

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another version of my agenderfluid flag, this time with a gradient :)

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stone futch and high futch!

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hey -- i edited this post! i've changed/re-released the high femme flag. if you happen to come across the old post and see this in the notes, reblog this version instead :-)!

stone butch and high femme! made with my butch/femme flags.

these, like my butch/femme flags, are meant to be used by any LGBT person who identifies as butch or femme.

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gnc gay man :-)

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butch mlm and butch bi mlm!

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bigender femme and bigender futch, to go with my bigender butch flag!

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can people who are butch be chapstick bisexual? i’m a very soft masc and definitely masc-leaning but i think at first sight i would come off as androgynous without too much effort towards presenting otherwise. but i am butch for a multitude of both internal and external reasons, and i'm hoping my current status here is just temporary. if that’s somehow incorrect and/or appropriating though, that’s fine, i’m happy to just reblog later instead!

my thoughts on this are yes, you can if you want and i would not be the one to try to stop you, but also you don't have to question or modify your own butchness or sense of your own masculinity based on how other people perceive you.

there r definitely andro butches in the world who are happy with that and don't want to change it and they're still fully Butch, because YOU bring something to butchness as well as butchness bringing something to you. obviously it still means and indicates something about masculinity as a term, but there are so many ways to embody and present masculinity and you don't have to give up any parts of yourself to pare it down. transgay masculinity does not have to be enforced like cishet masculinity.

but especially if you don't want to be androgynous forever and want to become more outwardly masculine, you don't have to label yourself based on an unwanted current state. if your personal ideal of butch is something you're reaching to embody more, you can still just wear butch! you don't have to have an "i'm not quite butch enough yet" mindset about it--you can just take butch with you on your journey.

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in order from top->bottom and left->right:

zachar, ay'lonit, nekevah tumtum, androgynos, saris

under the cut i'll provide more information on these identities and their place in judaism, including what makes a person one of these genders.

goyim are ok to reblog this if you want to share it with jewish people, but if you start messing around with these or try to give any commentary on it i will fuck your whole life

zachar is roughly equivalent to "male," and nekevah is to "female." tumtum is neither, lacking identifying gendered characteristics, and androgynos is both, having characteristics of both a zachar and a nekevah. ay'lonit is someone who was identified a nekevah a birth, but later gained traits associated with a zachar, and saris was identified a zachar at birth and later gained a nekevah's traits.

these are jewish genders/sexes, described in jewish religious & legal texts. they can be "hamah," through natural development, or "adam," through human intervention, e.g. a "saris adam" could be assigned male at birth but transition later in life, while a "saris hamah" was assigned male but later naturally developed sex characteristics commonly associated with someone assigned female. so, in short, just like how many conceive of "male" and "female" as something you can be born into or transition into, you can be born into or transition into these genders. you can also have your gender change due to an unintentional injury to the hormone regulators/producers that causes a change in the way your body operates.

they are of a physical nature rather than a more internal one: while they contain transgender experience as well as intersex experience, they depend upon your physicality, as noted above, and serve a legal purpose: you can walk into a congregation and tell a rabbi you're tumtum, and the expectations of your halachic practice in that congregation may change. in slightly older parlance you might associate the "adam" side of these experiences more with "transsexual" than "transgender," if you had to make a comparison.

and on that note: they are not the same as and do not smoothly translate into the LGBT community's standard terms and definitions surrounding sex & trans and nonbinary identity, and are exclusive to the cultural context of judaism.

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chapstick bisexual! a term for someone who's not quite masc or fem; more on the masc side of things but not extremely, and not butch. could possibly self-describe as androgynous. comes from the old term "lipstick lesbian" & more associated with gay women/wlw.

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butchwife and femmeboss flags for the girlboss/malewife joke/dynamic. it also happens to reference a real historical situation in which butches (mostly visibly gnc/gay) would not be able to work due to discrimination, so femmes (often less visibly gay to the heterosexual eye) would hold a job for the two of them.

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agenderfluid, a combination of agender + genderfluid! usually denoting a fluidity with agender as a base, fluidity between agender and something else, and/or fluidity between different levels of having or not having a gender, among other possibilities.

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top to bottom, left to right:

bi dyke, bi fagdyke/dykefag, bi faggot

gay fag, transfag