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nelkcats · 1 year
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Is there a fic when Batman and Superman suspect that Danny (or Dani) is a clone between them and call the Justice League (or the Batkids?? ) just for the Phantoms to go and scream "Not everything is about you"
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too-much-tma-stuff · 11 months
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Never Love Another
It was no secret that when Jason came back he came back wrong. The violence and pit rage were the most obvious ones of course, but now that it had faded other little things had started to surface. He had noticed this deep loneliness and homesickness for something he couldn’t remember or name. He didn’t know what to do about it besides, well maybe try to find someone who could sooth the loneliness. But it wasn’t working, if it wasn’t for how bad he wanted a romantic connection he would have thought he was aromatic now because he never, Never felt a spark at all, with anyone.
He actually talked to Dick about it, and let him talk Jason into therapy, but that didn’t help, and when Tim found out about it the paranoid little shit started doing tests. And that was how fucking Bruce found out, and he was even more paranoid so they would not believe it was a coincidence or anything and more tests were done. No answers were found until Batman called in a favour from JLD, Jason tried to insist it wasn’t worth it but Batman said his happiness was the most important thing, which made Jason shut up and make a face like he’d bitten into a lemon.
Now he was just trying to avoid admitting that they were right. “What the fuck do you mean cursed?!” Jason demanded from Constantine who shrugged and lit a new cigarette from the butt of the last one.
“I don’t know mate,” He said with a shrug, taking a drag. “While you were dead you must have pissed off some pretty powerful bastard because it’s Not a petty curse either, not the sort of thing I or Zatanna can break. Looks like it’s to ‘never love again’ or something like that, I don’t know it’s not exactly written in words.” He explained and Jason dropped his head into his hands with a groan.
Of course, why wouldn’t this happened? Honestly though as the literature nerd he was he had to think whoever had cursed him must have been of a similar temperament, given how melodramatic is was.  He wished he could remember what the fuck he had done to get cursed like this?
“So how would we break the curse?” Batman asked, ever solution oriented.
“Don’t know Bats,” Constantine admitted with a one shoulder shrug. “I think you’d have to find whoever cursed him and convince them to lift it. They’re a seriously powerful denizen of the Infinite Realms so we could try a summoning but there’s no guarantee that is would work, and if not you’d have to go to them which would be veeery risky. I’m not sure it’d be worth it honestly, I mean it’s a bit of a blessing isn’t it? Not like our lifestyles really lend to romance,” He snickered and everyone ignored him.
“How long will it take to arrange a summoning,” Nightwing demanded with a frown, why he had to be here too Jason didn’t know but… he was privately a little grateful that he was.
“Mmm A couple of weeks, we have most of the stuff required and the unique ingredients aren’t that hard to find,” the magician hummed thoughtfully. “I’ll remind you, there’s no guarantee that it’s going to work,” he reminded and even though Jason hadn’t looked up he could practically sense the twin scowls Dick and Bruce were shooting John.
“We’re going to try it,” Batman growled and Constantine hummed.
“Sure, whatever you say, I’ll start setting it up.”
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Those two weeks were plenty of time to panic about who it might be, what Jason might have done to cause this, and what the being might do if they answered the summons. They had a lot of preparations to do, but when Jason tried to say they shouldn’t do this Bruce and the others insisted that they needed to know ho had it out for Jason if just in case they decided to cause more problems. There was discussion about if Jason should be present, but he really wanted to be if this was happening, he wanted to see the monster that had cursed him.
Constantine and Zatanna were both there the day of, as well as Batman and Nightwing, and superman, just in case things went horribly wrong. The spell was… stressful for Red Hood, the portal it opened made him feel like he was staring into the Lazarus pits again, even if it was missing the feeling of rage.
It felt like they were all holding their breath for a few long minutes waiting to see if the summon would be answered. Jason was just starting to think that no one was going to answer when a white booted foot stepped through, followed quickly by the rest of the body.
Jason blinked, staring uncomprehendingly at the being that had answered the summons, not because they were some incomprehensible monster, but for the opposite reason, because they looked so human. Not normal, their ashen skin, pointed ears, and white hair that disregarded gravity, made sure of that, but he looked human other then that. A head or so shorter then Jason, lean and agile looking with unusually wide hips and soft curves for a man. His ears were pierced three times, two having studs like planets and a set of dangly ones shaped like a sun and a moon which glinted in the light of the glowing crown on his head. It looked like ice that had trapped the northern lights within them, it was beautiful, it took his breath away.
He had a vague feeling that the others present were talking, but Jason and, it seemed, the spirit, were not hearing them. Jason couldn’t tear his gaze away from the creatures Lazarus green eyes, why did he feel so familiar.
“Jay,” The being breathes, a bright smile spreading across his face, revealing little fangs that shouldn’t have been so adorable. “How did you, you shouldn’t have called me, I don’t… You don’t remember me do you? You shouldn’t,” He breathed, the smile dropping as the initial joy at seeing Jason overtaken by worry.
“We want to know why you cursed my son!” Batman shouted, suddenly cutting through the odd, tunnel version they’d both been trapped in and sending them both reeling. Jason had been leaning forward and ended up stumbling.
“Oh,” The creature sounded, his brows furrowing as Jason finally looked around and noticed how Constantine was cowering.
“Batman! Don’t yell at the fucking king of the Infinite Realms!” Constantine practically squeaked. The king?! How had Jason pissed off the king?! “We’re so sorry for disturbing you your Majesty, please don’t destroy us,” the wizard said, sounding like he was on the verge of a panic attack.
The being still in the circle cackled and crossed his legs under him, sitting on air at the odd cape that looked like it was made of the night sky billowed behind him. “Don’t worry I’m not planning on it, honestly, I am happy to see you again Jaybird,” He said with a soft smile, his gaze going back to Jason like he wanted to drink him in. “You’ve grown so much pretty-bird, are you happy? Do you like being alive again?” He asked worriedly. “You’re always welcome back-“
Nightwing read that as a threat that this supposed King was going to kill Jason again and yanked him back, standing between Jason and the stranger, even though he was shorter and slimmer then Red Hood. “He’s not going anywhere! Why did you curse him?” Nightwing demanded again.
“It wasn’t a curse, it was a price,” Phantom said with a frown. “I would let him go, but not to love another.”
“Love, another?” Jason asked this time, his voice harsh and soft. God how his heart ached, why couldn’t he remember something that made him feel so much longing and pain?
“Another,” Danny said, his voice softening again. “While you were in my realm we were… Close, very close. But you couldn’t let go of life, you weren’t ready to give yourself to me, not fully,” Danny bit his lip for a moment. “It hurt, but I only wanted what was best for you Jay, so if you had unfinished business… well, I let you leave. I did! I let you go, but-but maybe I was selfish, I was going to be waiting decades for you and-and I couldn’t stand the idea of waiting that long only for you to have fallen in love again with someone in life and, even after dying and remembering me, choosing to stay with them! So that was the deal, you get to live again, but only if you don’t love again, and you come back to me when you’re done. You agreed.”
There was a long silence as everyone processed what the king had said, it was Constantine who reacted first, rounding on Jason. “You dated the King of the Infinite Realms!?” He demanded, flabbergasted.
“Ugh, just call me Danny, I’m the king sure but I don’t care much for the title,” The bring in front of them corrected with a grimace.
“Danny,” Nightwing said, holding out his hand in a sort of placating gesture. “Can you… change the price?” He asked uncertainly.
“NO!” Danny said instantly, his voice echoing in a way that made those present flinch. “No, the deal still stands. I let him leave my kingdom, but I won’t completely give him up. I can’t, I can’t,” Danny said and Jason could swear he saw Danny’s eyes glimmer with tears.
“It’s alright,” Jason said, softly as he could, Danny’s pain called to him in a way he couldn’t explain. “It’s just, I’ve been lonely, I’ve felt like I’ve been missing something since I came back. I thought it was love, but now I think, I think it’s you. I’ve been homesick, for You,” He said, stepping closer again and holding out his hand. John yelped when Jason broke the circle, but he was being ignored.
Danny’s eyes widened in shock, then welled over with tears as he reached out and took Jason’s hand, his feet landing back on the ground as he stepped closer. “I’ve missed you too Jaybird, I’ve missed you like you wouldn’t believe,” He practically whispered. As he stepped over the line a white ring ran up and over his body, leaving a- well, for all appearances a human man with similar features and inverted colours, maybe a little younger then Jason. “I’m sorry you’ve been lonely, but I wanted to let you live your life. If you want, I could visit more? I would be happy to put in the work to, start over, let you get to know me in this life?” He laced their fingers together, taking Jason’s other hand as well, standing chest to chest and looking up at him through dark lashes, framing beautiful clear blue eyes.
“I would love that,” Jason breathed. Startled by a sound of disbelief behind him, he’d forgotten Nightwing was there and he glanced back. “What? It solves the problem of me being unable to love, it turns out I was just trying to love the wrong people.
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I suppose you already saw the new DC Gods and Monsters announcement by gunn. What are your opinion and speculations?
Anonymous asked:
Commentary on James new DCU plans ?
At long last: the wait is over.
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Running through the list:
Film
Superman: Legacy - Not really much to go off of other than the name being rather boring. Probably chose it over something like Superman: Man of Tomorrow simply to make sure people wouldn't confuse it for a MoS sequel. It's coming in 2025 and will be the first "proper" DCU film, which means we will get casting by the end of 2023 at least. I've seen some folks speculate that "Legacy" means the real focus will be on Clark mentoring Kara or Jon and I don't see that happening. If that was the plan then there's no need to drop Cavill, since he just would be playing support. Whoever the new Superman will be, he will be front and center.
The Authority - No one saw this one coming. How the hell this will work in the DCU is anyone's guess. I think they'll have Manchester Black form the team as a reaction to Superman, and ultimately there will be a clash between Supes and the Authority that ends with Black being ousted in favor of Jenny Sparks. Perhaps it will even lead into an adaption of Morrison S&tA given the Morrison influence seen elsewhere in the slate? Either way I'm very excited to see what Gunn does.
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow - I loved the mini, I'm excited for this.
Lanterns - I get both of my favorite Lanterns in the DCU! Surprising that they would scrap Berlanti's show right after signing a big deal with him. I'm going to guess that they discover evidence of the White Martians invading, and that's what leads into the DCU JL forming.
The Brave and the Bold - Skipping right to Damian is surprising but that might be to avoid stepping on Reeves toes. I guess there will be another age gap between Superman and Batman?
The Batman Part II - Batman fans eating good, you'll get solo gritty dark Batman and more comic-y Batman.
Swamp Thing - As if you needed any more confirmation that the Abrams JLD projects are dead. I love Swamp Thing but I'm going to need more info.
Television
Creature Commandos - Exact sort of obscure property we were expecting Gunn to love. Good to see DC is investing in animation still.
Paradise Lost - Might be good if they look to Historia for inspiration. "Game of Thrones with the Amazons" could go sour really quickly depending on how they characterize the Amazons.
Waller - If Bloodsport shows up here I'll watch it, otherwise I think I'm good.
Booster Gold - Never really cared for Gold myself but this character is exactly the kind of character Gunn loves. If he casts Pratt in the role all hell will break loose and I would be there for it.
Misc.
Seems like Levi, Gadot, Momoa, and even Miller(!!!) might get to continue in their roles. You won't see actors play two characters at the same time in the DCU, so I guess Momoa won't be Lobo after all? Look, part of the problem is that Gunn can't say anything that will negatively impact the box office returns for 2023, meaning he's not going to say they're done even if they are because then people might go "these don't matter", and stay home. The Wrap claims that The Flash is going to get the Elseworlds brand which makes it unlikely Calle would continue on as Supergirl, but it's too early to say at this point.
Keeping any of the main Leaguers in their roles is going to cause the same kind of continuity clusterfuck as the New 52 not rebooting Batman and GL did, but you know what? At this point I don't care. Not my problem, all I want are good Superman and Supergirl movies, with some exciting spinoffs like LoSH too. Don't give a rat's ass if the JL film sucks or the continuity makes sense as long as I get what I want. I'll follow the projects that look interesting and ignore the ones that don't.
There's a "brain trust" of writers advising Gunn, one of whom is Tom King which is sure to piss off plenty but leaves me rather happy. Maybe King is even writing the script for Supergirl? Morrison and King are clearly Gunn's guiding lights, and far as Superman goes they're two of his best writers. Adam Strange fans are in for a rough ride no doubt.
Gunn also confirmed that they continue to plan on synergy across multiple mediums which makes me nervous. If his Superman sucks then I'm going to be stuck with a take I don't like showing up everywhere in a way not even Snyder/Cavill's take did. On the other hand the emphasis that the synergy will include DCU games makes me hopeful that maybe we might finally get a goddamn Superman game, and if that happens then I'll take that synergy. S&L may get to run for 1 to 2 more seasons - wasn't clear if S3 is included in that 1 to 2 more - but that will hopefully let S&L last for 4-5 seasons which is a solid tenure for a show. Not sure how MAWS will fit into Gunn's plan, but I hope he just lets it run and makes his own Superman cartoon if he wants one.
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Feels nice to be excited after years of flinching and dreading every DC announcement. Not a perfect slate, not what *I* would do, but there's a healthy mix of A-Listers, B/C-Listers, and oddballs that appeal to Gunn. Not all of the slate has been revealed, and I'm sure we will get another JL movie before the decade is done, but for a starting slate I think DC's future looks bright.
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milfzatannaz · 2 years
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:fire emoji: ME
(no im jk do jld)
ADHHDJFFJ I JUST CHECKED MY INBOX BBY I-
My opinion of u is that we’re married happily ofc
anyway my jld opinions are sorta complicated (a lot complicated) because they’re like. Baby’s First DC Magic Title so this team has in no small way changed the trajectory of my life in about 7 months. big to think about.
Volume 1 is like McDonald’s iced coffee where you’re excited to drink it but the more sips you take the more you realize it’s utter bullshit. I don’t like Janin’s art. It’s too close to the uncanny valley, he draws Constantine so punchable it’s not even funny, and the colorist needs a new day job. The plot? Forgettable. Zee was a non character and only existed to be the sex object/ male pain figurehead. She was cute, but so very bland.
In a large way, however, the new 52 probably ruined Johnzee irreparably, at least until the next jld writer decides to pick up Ram V’s loose ends. They were friendly for nearly 20 years up until they rebooted their backstory. At least it brought an obscure pairing to the forefront, but like. That’s where fandom gets the idea of them being toxic exes, of John being a sad sorry fuck that doesn’t let her have boundaries, of zee being mad at him no matter what. For God’s sake in Vertigo she went to all the parties he invited her to. Clearly there was affection there.
Volume 2 presents this conundrum in my head bc I’m not sure I really like it or if I accept it as the crumbs I’m given. But I’m going to be real with y’all it’s essentially a Wonder Woman comic. It has all these wonderful little nods to the Vertigo line- see issue 13- and that’s largely bc Ram V clearly is a fan. the problem is Wonder Woman is not part of the vertigo tradition of magic users, and that’s the more iconic of DC’s ventures and also what I prefer. I wish we could’ve gotten a team that was like the Trenchcoat Brigade and separate from the league, because John would literally have nothing to do with the league if he was written using his Hellblazer characterization. However, the johnzee in this run restored their backstory, even if Zee is still written as pissed. I also don’t like the power dynamic set up between Zatara and John, but that’s another essay.
JLD simply exists in Vertigo’s shadow and it hasn’t done anything so compelling that it can stand on its own. It has more potential that it knows what to do with, but 2018’s run is pretty solid nonetheless.
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batboysheadcanons · 4 years
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This is your spoiler warning about Justice League Dark: Apokolips War. I’ll put it in the tags too.
But basically, I thought it was beautifully done. It was violent, heartfelt, heartbreaking, and I just felt so many emotions during it all. Truly, it was a master piece to me. Let’s start from the beginning.
John and Zatanna were great together. I love their chemistry, and knowing that they had seemingly worked out their issues since the first JLD, and it’s just lovely. The humor of Bruce being a cockblock was a nice touch.
When discussing Apokolips showing up on Earth’s doorstep, I think they did a good job of showing Superman’s trauma. He is the big blue Boy Scout, and is usually level headed and reasonable but you could see his encounter with Doomsday and Hank in Reign of the Superman, fucked with him and it showed there. To the point where he angerily damages part of their conference room, and is being stubborn with his plan. He didn’t want to take any chances with Darkseid again.
The jump from them flying into Apokolips and the paradoomen (that’s my new name for them), shattering their window to Earth, 2 years later, on fire and practically desolate, was harsh. It was like, they didn’t win. And it allowed us to get backstory, from multiple perspectives, which I thought was nice. John drinking was a good touch, as it shows his serious signs of PTSD, and guilt. Etrogen not even rhyming because he doesn’t see the point was just a hard hitting reminder that this world fucking sucked.
The first encounter between Superman, raven, and John was great. Raven’s annoyance, and “oh fuck this” were perfect. She’s already got a million things to be worried about, a drunk man and a drunk demon don’t need to be added to them. Also Etrogen just burping fire onto the paradoomen was great. A bit of humor to lighten up the dark bits. We also learned a bit more about what happened to the justice league, and got to see many of them visocusly ripped apart or seriously maimed. Knowing that Darkseid didn’t kill all of them either was horrifying, as you know many of them were actually better off dead at some point. John’s sarcastic nature was helpful to not make it too dark and depressing.
Next, to my best boy Damian, who immediately stops the battle with one word and threatens Superman, blaming him for the loss of his teammates and his father. This immediately stops when Raven collapses and we see a range of emotions cross his face, and we all saw those screen caps and they were every bit as good in the movie. He immediately sets aside his disdain for Superman and is worried about her. Finding out Dick died in front of him, protecting him from a paradoomen is super fucking depressing. Learning that he used a Lazarus pit to bring him back but it not working is even worse, and then we get gutted with the line of “he was my brother”. Like you can stop now, my heart can only bleed so much.
Next is the group going to see the suicide squad. First, seeing Lois Lane fight Harley Queen was hot as hell. Secondly, boomerang and John calling each other names and both ending on “wanker” was golden. Third, which this should have honestly been first but it just crossed my kind, is Damian, back in his Robin costume instead of his League of Assassins getup, was chicken noodle soup for my batboy soul. Honestly first thing should have been that king shark and John fucking is CANON. Continuing, Superman actively and positively cheering on Lois in her fight was adorable, and I liked it. Damian and Raven admitting their feelings for each other was great, and I’m really happy that this was the endgame.
Getting to LexCorp tower, and finding out Lex is the sleeper who was feeding Lois information was amazing, because we all wanted it to be Batman, and think that he had actually fought off Darkseid’s brainwashing, and was just in a deep cover until the right time came. But it showed that even Batman can break. They lost a lot of people in the tower, and watching a beast of a woman like Lady Shiva die was terrible, but I will say it felt almost meaningless. I do wish Damian had more of a reaction, as I’m sure he actually knew Shiva quite well, due to his time with the league of assassins since he was born, and when he went back to rule them after losing all of his friends and family. But I guess you can only take so many people to Apokolips. Story wise, it does make sense, it just seemed like it had very little impact on someone who I figured it would have a bigger impact on. Seeing all of Lex’s of kryptonite was good. “I had issues.” Was a great line.
The next part on Apokolips was horrifying. We get cyborg resemblances of what’s left of the justice league. It was physically awful to look at, and I’m sure for our heros, probably doing some psychological damage. The other part of that, took place in Darkseid’s throne room. I will say, I do not buy for one second that Damian would not avoid a laser beam. He’s not out of practice, and he’s been in extreme turmoil before. Back to the throne room, that was a masterfully thought out scene. And I would like to pinpoint the exact climax of the movie, which I found to be my second favorite part, the ending being my favorite part. But it’s not John debugging cyborg and the others, it’s not the beginning of the fight with cyborg, and not even Batman’s fight with Damian. The climax of the movie is when Bruce is getting ready to kill Damian and all of a sudden, he sees himself face to face with Joe Chill, at 8 years old, and dead parents in front of him. Bruce seeing himself in his blood son was the climax of the movie, because it set off the rest of the events for the rest of the movie. Batman breaks and throws the sword at Darkseid. He gets pissed and sends Omega beams towards Bruce, and Damian steps in front and takes it, which does kill him, and that breaks Raven, and she has John free trigon, who invaded Superman’s body, and it just continues from there, until they all got to leave and Darkseid and his paradoomens, along with trigon, end up stuck in the middle of nowhere. We get the damirae kiss at the end, and the flash starting another flashpoint, effectively ending this current continuity, and setting up another one, which I think really went well, considering this is the last movie in this continuity.
Now touching on the previous point of why the climax is my second favorite part of the movie, I never explained why it was that. And for me, it’s because it didn’t have any long winded “good man” speech to accompany it. Don’t get me wrong, I think it worked well with bad blood. But Talia only had him for a little over 2 weeks. Darkseid’s had him for at least 2 years. So it would take more than some words to get it together. But it couldn’t be just any action or any thought. The one thing that pulled him out of Darkseid’s control, is the event that created Batman. It was poetic, and it just worked for me. What better way to come to your senses than to just see the original, and just be like “this is who I am.” Damian mentioned this earlier in the movie too, that Dick’s death almost broke him, the key word being almost. I thought it was great, because Batman took Dick in, because he saw himself in Dick. Dick was the first Robin, and the next in-line to the mantel. Losing any of your children isn’t easy, but losing your first son, and the one who’s always been there is even harder. But it wasn’t enough to break him.
Now I’ll be talking about some things I really liked in this movie that I didn’t include up above, one of them being John Stewart’s last stand on Oa. John, is seemingly the last green lantern alive, the guardians are dead, and any green lanterns that were making a last stand were quickly and brutally dealt with. John is right in front of the source of the green lantern power, and he’s so close. He’s almost got it, the fist is raised, and Darkseid asks for a transfer of some of earth’s magma core onto Oa. He’s burned up, along with the power source for green lanterns. It’s super crushing because you were hoping, that even if he didn’t kill Darkseid, which he probably wasn’t going to, he could at least try to slow him down. But we never got there.
Another thing I liked is when Zatanna reveals that John didn’t run away on his own accord, and that Batman always has a contingency plan. Zatanna knew she was going to die at that point but made sure John made it out so the others could have a shot at eventually winning. First of all, holy shit that is traumatizing, watching someone you love die and you’re running away. But I’m assuming other magicians can feel when magic is being used on them, and so John is so upset with what’s happening that he doesnt even feel the magic being used. He just thinks he ran away, tail between his legs, because he was scared.
Raven letting go and using her demon powers to protect them from the laser beams and then afterwards “I will kill you boy” before immediately calming down and apologizing. Raven letting go to grab Luther and threatening him “no one will mourn you” was *chef’s kiss* everything I ever needed. Damian and Raven were so protective of each other this movie and it was so sweet to watch. You could really see that he did have feelings for her and it was just sweet.
Another part I liked was John offering himself up to Trigon to use as a host body and Trigon said “fuck that” and jumped into Superman, which if you look closely, burned the liquid kryptonite out of his body, which did allow him to return to his normal form when he watched Lois die, which holy shit. Wow. That was uh depressing. But it allowed Superman to gain control again, and it made sense on why Superman was back in his normal form. The other thing, is that Trigon is already a strong being, and from his past experience with the justice league, he knows Superman is strong too. It all made sense, and I do think it was done well.
Finally, John finding out that the Flash is the reason for this is amazing and also depressing, because at this point, if you’ve seen flashpoint paradox, Barry will have to sacrifice his mom to save the rest of the world. A world where everyone is alive. You also find out that their plan to blow up the generator won’t work because flash is the generator. They also use flash at the beginning to tell everyone that he’s seen what happens and that this may not be the time to do it. At the end, broken, battered, and utterly depressed, he knows what he needs to do. Create another flashpoint. I know I mentioned it above, but it really does bring a nice end to this animated universe and opens up the door for a new one. It does seem a little deus ex machina to me, but it’s not overly outlandish like time travel in the quantum realm using pym particles (looking at you marvel). The kiss at the end between Raven and Damian was perfect, because they truly were endgame and that’s all my baby bird heart wanted.
Basically all I wanted to say with this really long post is that I liked Justice Leage Dark: Apokolips War.
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dapperfvck-arc · 6 years
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Unpopular Opinon Time! 
Now mind you, for as bitter as I am, I’m enormously grateful that the TV show brought fresh interest to John Constantine, who might had otherwise been forgotten given how poorly the last fifty issues of Vertigo’s series tends to be. I generally think by the last issue, it was like shooting a fine old racehorse behind the barn because it had a broken leg. We’re not going to go into the vast irony that the TV show was the genesis of the revival because I’ve made a vow not to talk too much shit about my feelings on the Constantine series. I have a few mutuals and partners that adore the show. I’m only spoken frankly and at length one time. You can read it here if you like (I’ve completed the series since that ask, but my opinion hasn’t changed).
I mean, I’m glad the DC is including him in a lot of their content and storylines, but...I just don’t think it’s very good by and large. At best it’s fine and it doesn’t piss me off too much, but at the worst I get extremely frustrated. I don’t understand at all why he’s on Justice League Action. In the end, when you consider the old Vertigo series content, he’s entirely inappropriate for both the superhero gig and a cartoon geared toward a younger audience. Hellblazer was very much a comic for mature readers and it’s jarring to see his harder edges sanded away for the sake of censorship and him perform magical feats more fitting for Zee or Phantom Stranger. That’s not John. It’s not, and quite frankly when he did something astounding with magic if was far more interesting than just...producing an energy beam or whatever the fuck was happening in Justice League Dark. Seriously. Fuck JLD. You want a great DC magic users team up? Check out the Trenchcoat Brigade.
I dunno, I just wish they’d give John back to Vertigo full time if they’re not going to use him right. In fact, give Warren Ellis or Andy Diggle all of the money to write him again. Just issue them blank checks. They are worth any amount of money you could give them. Gah tl;dr: I guess I’m basically saying, I mostly base my John on the Vertigo series so it’s not like DC has been doing me any good in giving this character interesting stories or character development. Nah, they’d rather turn him into a punchline or scapegoat. 
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ds4design · 7 years
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All 12 times the stars at the SAG Awards threw shade at Donald Trump
LOS ANGELES — Thirteen categories, 12 messages of unity with Muslim Americans and/or Donald Trump zingers.
The 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild Awards were nothing if not consistent in message.
Whether scathing or subtle, just about everyone who took the stage Sunday night to collect an award had something to say about the #MuslimBan — starting with the red carpet and lasting all the way to the final speech.
Here are all 12 times the issue was addressed on the telecast:
Ashton Kutcher
Ashton Kutcher was first to speak at the 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.
Image: Chris Pizzello/Invision/AP
The SAG Awards don't have an emcee, per se, but the That '70s Show actor was the first famous face we saw, and he jumped right on it:
Good evening fellow SAG/AFTRA members, and everyone at home, and everyone in airports that belong in my America. You are a part of the fabric of who we are, and we love you and we welcome you.
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Louis-Dreyfus accepting at the 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.
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As soon as we heard JLD won Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Comedy Series for Veep, we knew this was gonna be funny:
Whether the Russians did or did not hack the voting of tonight's SAG awards, I look out on the million — or million and a half people — in this room and I say, this award is legitimate and I won. I am the winner. The winner is me. Landslide. To a less insane note ... I want you all to know that I am the daughter of an immigrant. My father fled religious persecution in Nazi occupied France ... and I love this country. ... This immigrant ban is a blemish, and it is un-American.
William H. Macy
William H. Macy accepts at the 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.
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Macy won Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Comedy Series for playing a terrible, terrible person in Shameless.
I would like to go against the stream this evening and thank President Trump … for making Frank Gallagher seem so normal.   
The 'Orange is the New Black' cast
Taylor Schilling, Taryn Manning and Uzo Aduba pose after their big win.
Taylor Schilling took the mic for the cast's win for Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Comedy Series:
We’d like to say that we stand up here representing a diverse group of people, representing generations of families who have sought a better life here, from places like Nigeria, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Ireland (Brooklyn!) yes. And we know that it’s gonna be up to all of us, and probably you, too, to keep telling stories that show what unites us is stronger than the forces that seek to divide us.    
Viggo Mortensen and Catherine Hahn
Viggo Mortensen, left, and Kathryn Hahn, stickin' it to the man.
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Viggo Mortensen and Kathryn Hahn, stars of Captain Fantastic, used a bit from their film (about a big family that lives off the grid) while presenting an award. 
Mortensen threw his fist in the air, saying "Power to the people!"
And right on cue, the rest of the cast, all sitting together, jumped to their feet and cried:
STICK IT TO THE MAN!
Mahershala Ali
Mahershala Ali doesn't want anyone folding into themselves.
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Ali won Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role  for Moonlight, then launched into an emotional plea:
What I’ve learned from working on Moonlight is, uh, we see what happens when we persecute people. They fold into themselves. And what was so great about having the opportunity to play Juan was playing a gentleman folding into himself as a result of persecution by his community, and taking that opportunity to uplift him and tell him that he mattered, and that he was OK, and accept him. ... I hope we do a better job of that. We kinda get caught up in the minutiae, the details that make us all different; I think there’s two ways of seeing that. There’s an opportunity to see the texture of that person, to see the characteristics that make them unique. And then there’s the opportunity to go to war about it. And to say that person is different form me and I don’t like you. Let’s battle. My mother is an ordained minister. I’m a Muslim. She didn’t do backflips when I called to tell her I converted 17 years ago. But I tell you now: We put things to the side. And I’m able to see her, and she’s able to see me. We love each other, the love is grown.
Sarah Paulson
Sarah Paulson and her guest — Marcia Clark herself — arrive at the 23rd annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.
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Paulson won for her portrayal of crusading lawyer Marcia Clark, then advocated for some other crusading lawyers:
Any spare money that anyone may have they should donate to the ACLU … to protect the rights and liberties of people across the country. It’s a vital organization that relies entirely on our support. So please, if you can — thank you very much.   
Bryan Cranston
Bryan Cranston to the stage.
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Cranston won Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Television Movie or Limited Series for All the Way, in which he played Lyndon B. Johnson — and felt like he gained an understanding of the former president in the process:
How would Lyndon Johnson think about Donald Trump? And I honestly feel that 36 would put his arm around 45 and earnestly wish him success. And he would whisper in his ear something he said often, as a form of encouragement — and a cautionary tale — "Just don’t piss in the soup that all of us gotta eat."
Lily Tomlin
Lily Tomlin in the celebration of a lifetime.
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Lily Tomlin had one of the night's lighter, more levity-filled speeches, but got into it at the end:
The Doomsday Clock has been moved up to 2 1/2 minutes to midnight. And this awards, it came just in the nick of time….  Live your life so that when you are being honored for your achievements … the people called upon to make laudatory remarks can be reasonably honest. In these times, all their words might be perceived as alternative facts, or worse yet, fake news. ... What sign should I make for the next march? So much to do, global warming, Standing Rock, LBGT issues, Chinese missiles ...
Alia Shawkat
Alia Shawkat (right) had a special greeting for the SAG Awards.
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The Search Party star was presenting the award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Drama Series, and opened with the traditional Arabic greeting:
Salaam Alaikum!
Emma Stone
Emma Stone accepts for the ones who dream.
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The winner for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role (La La Land, of course) was pretty overwhelmed, but got her comment in, too:
Just … we’re in a really tricky time in our country and things are very inexcusable and scary and need action and I’m so grateful to be part of a group of people that cares and wants to reflect things back to society.
Taraji P. Henson
Octavia Spencer, Janelle Monae and Taraji P. Henson — hidden figures no more.
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Hidden Figures won the night's big honor — Best Ensemble — and Henson took the mic for a final grace note:
[Hidden Figures] story is of unity. This story is about what happens when we put our differences aside. And we come together as a human race, we win. Love wins. Every time. Thank you so much for appreciating the work we've done, thank you so much for appreciating these women.
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What has made you completely lose your chill?
Mind, most of these instances can be found in logs on Skype chats because I try to not go off on tumblr. It’s a public forum, after all, and I know my words are being seen by more than just my friends and I don’t want to offend anyone inadvertently. I get very frustrated over the various iterations of John’s portrayal in relatively recent media since Hellblazer has been kicked off Vertigo. I mean, to be fair, the last fifty issues of the Vertigo series were a mess too. Like I’m entirely convinced the reason why it was canceled was due to Peter Milligan’s atrocious treatment of him and other characters. Listen, this asshat brought Kit back for the sole purpose of having John tell her about how he had finally found the ability to love someone more than he’d ever loved her because they accepted the magic and messed up parts of his life which -- Is so messed up I can’t even express. But yeah, I’m not real happy with the way DC has used him, like in JLD and Injustice or the way he’s been written in the new Hellblazer series. It just feels like a fundamental misunderstand of his character and it just makes me feel like I’m going crazy. Like, it’s not that hard to do research? I feel like a lot of these writers are just working with a basic outline of his personality, which hardly captures the whole of his characterization. Because it’s very easy to just say “John is a con man magician that sometimes does terrible things to get the job done or serve his purpose”, but there’s so much more to him that’s really important than just that single sentence.
I hate seeing other role-players treat my partners like shit. It completely pisses me off when I see another mun act really poorly to them, but I rarely get involved because like...usually it’s just shitty RP etiquette or fandom drama. Like for example going off about shipping or their character in the tags, so you know, it’s not my business to go after the offending the party, but it’s still infuriating and you better believe we’re venting among each other on Skype. 
Am I about to reiterate how much I hate character bashing? Yep. I am. It really pisses me off, especially within the realm of shipping like, stop comparing ships as in one being better than the other or one character being a better partner than the other, like that’s so isolating. Say you don’t like a certain ship, fine, but don’t draw stark comparisons or use it as an excuse to bring a particular character down. That’s just so unbelievably shitty and immature. I’d been part of shipping wars when I was younger and I regret how awful I was to complete strangers just because they shipped something that I didn’t like. Worse still being praised because I stood up for the popular ship. Awful, awful. I suppose in saying this, it could be why I’m very skittish now to use the term OTP even though it’s usage has become lax in fandom slang. Like it’s funny to me that it seems that people have forgotten that it’s shorthand for “one true pairing”. Now everyone has multiple OTPs and the old school part of me is laughing like how can you have multiple OTPs hahaha, oh you guys. But yeah, I think for me in remembering how OTP used to be much more stark and divisive, I’m more hesitant to use it unless there really is only one ship that I really like in a fandom. Even then...idek. 
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