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myearts-uwu · 1 year
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Looking back on some stuff... I have a LOT of unresolved beef with Lucas I’m not even exaggerating.
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haaawaiianshirt · 2 years
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my issue with "stans" and people who like Billy or any other Stranger Things Guy is not that they like him, sympathize with him, headcanon him, whatever, (I know nothing I say can talk you out of liking them but it's fine, to each their own) it's the rampant hypocrisy yall like to spout I am SO sick of it
I appreciate that y'all want to take a nuanced look at the source material, but you can't cherry-pick what parts of the narrative you want to acknowledge !!
y'all want to talk about classism and ableism within the show, which i admire! those are super interesting themes in Stranger Things!! but you all REFUSE to acknowledge or interpret the themes surrounding racism, misogyny, and cycles of abuse and it discredits any argument yall wanna make about your special little guys.
I can acknowledge that Billy is a survivor of his father's abuse, I can see that he is a complex and interesting character and I don't care that you guys like him for this! but what y'all conveniently like to omit is that he chose to perpetuate the abuse he faced onto Max. he could have forged a relationship with her like his literal narrative foil, Johnathan, did with Will in the face of their abusive father, but he didn't and that was His Choice.
or the common argument about Nancy and ableism for example! (and before yall come for my ass, yes, i am autistic.)
when Nancy is rude to Robin one (1) time, it's not because she's an overwhelmed teenager who just lost another friend and has had to face so much doubt in her ideas thanks to the men in her life and is just now trying to forge friendships again, it's because she's a master manipulator ableist obviously.
So, if y'all care about Nancy getting annoyed with Robin, where are the posts shunning Steve for being mean to Robin? calling Robin hyper? for telling Nancy that Robin has "problems"? for letting Robin run off into the Upside Down alone? is that not more ableist than Nancy getting annoyed with Robin for talking a lot in a high-stress situation?
Do you see the issue?
how are y'all willing to excuse Billy for attacking actual children but aren't willing to provide that same grace towards Nancy when she protects those same children with her life?
you ask us to see the truth behind the actions of Billy and Steve yet condemn Nancy for every mistake in the same breath? what exactly is the line between a traumatized teenager and a monster in your mind?
you claim that Nancy is evil and classist towards Johnathan but ignore the sexism (which is literally. the main conflict. of their relationship. they don't understand each other), neglect, and parentification she faced. you wax poetic that Billy is so misunderstood but ignore the way he routinely tormented Max and attacked Lucas for dating Max, which both the Duffer Brothers and Caleb himself said is meant to be racially motivated.
y'all make up so many reasons to forgive and excuse the men of the narrative for their behavior but do not allow female characters the same grace and it is so. annoying. y'all want to be this cool nuanced fan safe space but you just pull the same shit as a dudebro movie buff echo chamber and I'm soooo done with it.
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Billy Hargrove Stans Are Fucking Obnoxious.
Not gonna lie folks, getting really fucking tired of seeing Billy Stans openly cross-tagging, egging other people on and trying to guilt-trip people out of not liking Billy.
No. I do not care that Billy is an abuse victim, he abused his younger sister, tried to murder three kids and another teen. The moment he began abusing someone else, it ceased to matter what happened in his past. Billy is not a saint, not a hero, Billy Hargrove is a monster. That is it. That is all there is to it at the end of the day. Yes, he died doing something good and heroic, but he is still an abuser who hurt many.
He gave an apology? Who to and what for? Was it to Max, for all the years he had abused her? Was it Lucas for targeting him for his race? Was it for any of the others who (in a normal universe) would be traumatized at having a speeding car racing at them? Or is it just a blank apology for EVERYONE? Can we just do that now? Can he just say "Sorry" and just be forgiven by everyone? That's not how anything works.
You wanna know who DOESN'T forgive Billy? Max! Billy's favourite abuse victim, who sincerely wished and wanted Billy dead for everything he put her through.
It's funny how the oh so "enlightened" claim to be supporting victims of abuse while ignoring Will, Jonathan and Max. I guess they just don't matter?
The only thing I hate more about stupid fandom bullshit is the fact that I feel compelled to comment on it. I like to stay in my own bubble, but.
Oh.
My.
Fucking.
God!
These people just CAN'T stay in their fucking lane. There's always a Billy Stan (I say Stan specifically because I don't mind admiring villains/antagonists for their complexity or for analysis purposes, that's totally fine, these people I'm referring to are obsessed with Billy and pretend that he did nothing wrong) that's cross tagging, acting like a total ass and mocking/provoking other people.
When you try and wash away Billy's abuse, use particularly crafted terminology like "Abuse survivor/victim" to try and portray Billy as nothing more than a poor, misunderstood abused teen, then you've become an abuse apologist.
I don't personally care, but I start to care when certain opposing fandom corners are infringed upon, because believe it or not, I don't like arguing 24/7 on any of these hell sites. The blacklist/block feature exists for a reason, and it's not so you can ignore it and make your obnoxious personality other people's problems.
Get a life ffs.
Billy Hargrove is not a hero.
Billy Hargrove is not a good person.
Billy Hargove did not get redeemed.
Billy Hargrove became a monster and died as one
If any of these statements offend or upset you, perhaps that is the cue for you to look deep inside yourself and ask why it does.
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julysn · 6 months
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fanfic ideas
(i would totally write these if i felt motivated. but i don’t. so now u have to listen to me.)
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fandoms i had in mind: south park, unwind dystology, tcoaal. but these can be used for any fandom.
a/n: HI HELLO i would like to see these happen. so im dumping it on YOU. you’re welcome. most are x reader focused bc i have wrote those all my life, but u can switch these up idgaf
writers i see u sprinting at me from a mile away. it’s okay. slow down bookie. it’s okay i’m here.
ALSO IF YOU USE THESE GIVE CREDIT FOR INSPO 🙏 just put my user somewhere visible on the masterlist/notes or tag me 😉 it’s not that hard pookie
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# south park ──
and yes u can use these ideas for any other piece of media. just give credit i am BEGGING 😭🙏🙏
— … unwind au. HELLO DO WE SEE THE VISION WTF?? cmon guys. stan and kyle being connor and hayden WTF DO U GUYS SEE IT wjat. kyle as connor definitely they’re pretty similar imo
— fingerbang au where it has four separate endings for the main four. but y/n is a stylist/manager/makeup artist (if u need it.. look up kpop fics for inspo)
— instead of tolkien and his parents moving in across tegridy farms, it’s y/n. yeah that’s all i got
— doubling down except heidi’s y/n, and y/n doesn’t get back with cartman.
this was one i attempted writing a WHILEEE ago but never really. yk. got the hang of it.
but basically to sum the idea up, it’ll be the entire doubling down episode except extended. like, it could play it longer and extra scenes (ex. extension of the dinner scene where they make fun of cartman to heidi, every scene in the montage written out)
— childhood best friends to enemies to lovers where y/n had a big fight w the love interest days before they moved. but then they move back to south park and (not surprisingly) they got a glow up and they’re hot now! so everyone tries to flirt w them but the love interest catches their eye and they’re still enemies ofc but they catch feelings
— this is more of a oneshot, but y/n asks someone (or a set of people) to get matching sanrio pajama pants. yeah. do whatever stinks
— high school au. where y/n is a sad emo loser and the love interest is popular. and they lose a bet and have to ask solemn little y/n out but y/n says yes so the love interest is like “….. im gonna break up with them after three months.” but (spoiler alert) THEY FALL IN LOVE!
bonus points for angst w happy ending. like y/n finds out about the bet or something and then the love interest is like “NO PLS. I NEED U. U DONR GET ME” and they’re vulnerable and desperate and y/n’s like “okay! 😊😊”
idea. hi. i have idea. y/n gets bullied for dating love interest so they’re protecting sad little y/n bc they feel bad and it’s really cute and love interest thinks “…….:…. why is y/n kinda cute.”
— DETECTIVE KYLE X CRIMINAL Y/N PLEASE IM BEGGING??? i Love him i Need This. ARAAAAHHHHH
— angel y/n who is pure and innocent but NOT NAIVE! please do not make y/n sound like how those 2013 wattpad fics would’ve made her sound. demon love interest.
is it just me or y/n is a separate entity. she’s banging every character in existence like what. also i’m not religious so i wouldn’t really know about this stuff
# unwind dystology ──
— au where risa isn’t in a state home and she has cool foster parents. and she has to babysit lucas but one day she meets connor bc he’s home (shocker!) and they become friends and he slowly stops being away from home to see her 💘💞🩷
— CAN WE GET SOME X READER UNWIND FICS PLEASE
— au where y/n gets hired to be connor and risa’s bodyguard. and risa has her gay awakening so connor and y/n get to know each other and fall in love!
— blind date hayconrisa. how will this happen? idk ask urself
— high school au. again. why am i so obsessed w high school au’s IM BARELY EVEN A FRESHMEN DAWG 😭 but anyways fake dating haycon. like maybe connors trying to escape from his admirers so he agrees to fake date hayden.
surprise surprise. THEY FALL IN LOVE THOSE GAY FUCKERS
— mermaid risa x sailors connor and hayden. i live laugh love hayconrisa.
— jackson wang party and hayden gets DRUNK (boy u are not old enough to be drinking!) so connor takes him home and takes care of him
— rockstar au. do we smell it
— guardian angel hayden who is never serious to the point connor’s like “….. are u seriously my guardian angel wtf”. but haycon. i lov haycon
— LIFEGUARD AU. LIFEGUARD CONNOR IS THE HOTTEST THING I HAVE EVER THOUGHT OF. WHERE ARE THE ARTISTS I NEED U
— risa or hayden has to tutor connor bc his dumbass is failing every subject (high school au)
— underage smoking + shotgun kisses in the graveyard…,,…. hayden somehow gets weed so he shares it w connor and risa and maybe haycon/conrisa shotgun kisses oneshot. hear me out hello
— yo chat can we get some more unwind angst w happy ending
— greek god/goddess au? dunno how that’s gonna work but i just came up w it
— LOVE BAND AU. connor being sad emo guitarist with a hot keyboardist girlfriend
— au where lev did clap at happy jack…,…
# tcoaal ──
i cooked way too hard w these. someone better write one of them and tag me (we’ll get married in a gorgeous cathedral if u do… 🌝)
also IK THESE ARE MORE FLESHED OUT THAN MY SP AND UNWIND ONES! it’s bc i prefer multi-chapter tcoaal fics
— me trying not to mention unwind au whenever i think of writing fics for other fandoms. NO BUT SEEEEE it would work so well. like maybe the graves parents wanna unwind ashley and andrew somehow finds out so him and ashley run away (andrews.. uh, 17? and ashley’s 15 prob. u gotta know the unwind lore for this to work)
maybe they’re like starkey when he killed that juvey cop. maybe they do kill juvey cops. maybe
— 1980s AU OMG where it takes place in the united states (did europe have a lot of arcades back then? but anyways. the united states had more arcades so let’s just say it takes place there) and andrew is the sad emo loser at the prize counter.
and y/n is babysitting for some kids when she (not specifically fem reader but i have a habit of using she/her when talking about y/n…) decides to take them to the arcade bada bing bada boom
and the two meet at the prize counter and they hit it off really well despite andrew being an absolute ass. and the kids are like “….. are they flirting” so then y/n begins to take them to the arcade more often to see andrew 💞💞🩷💘💘💞 and they get to know each other outside of him being at work
— nsfw ashley x y/n x andrew threesome smut where they take turns FUCKING y/n RAW!
w/ plot: ashley and andrew are both head over heels for y/n and they’re arguing over who gets to have you because.. um. idk. and then y/n shows up somehow and she’s like “guys what—“ and they immediately begin flirting with her
so she’s like “i like the both of u WANNA SEX” or something (cmon im not good at porn w plot) so they… yeah. they BANG!
— government detective/officer y/n who gets sent to track down the graves siblings. she finds them w a colleague and is sent on an undercover mission to somehow befriend them, get close to them and lure them into a trap where they get arrested
but in the process (surprise surprise) she falls for them! and there’s four separate endings. one for if y/n picked to save andrew, one if y/n picked ashley, one if y/n picked both and somehow kept her job and one if y/n eventually hid her feelings and just let both get arrested!
maybe even some epilogue chapters for all of the choices. like for the first two it’s y/n getting spooned/spooning the other as they talk about what would’ve happened i’d they didn’t escape (bc y/n was smart and made the one who got caught walk in front) and the remaining sibling doesn’t know that y/n still works for the gov’t.. for the third one maybe y/n moves in w them and they’re all poly now? dunno. still thinking. and for the last choice maybe y/n felt guilty and went to visit them in prison to confess but they’re both extremely pissed
smut for this one would be crazy 😭 “technically i’m getting paid to get closer to them so it won’t matter if i let them make me cum right” typa sex idk
also. maybe y/n’s getting cornered in an alleyway by some creep and as she’s about to try and strike andrew and ashley save her! and that’s where the attraction starts because she’s like “wait.. they kinda have morals.. like kinda”
— now hear me out i might b cooking w this. rock band au. ashley does drums, andrew guitar, y/n something else maybe singer bc she’s a talented queen. and they’ve all been friends since childhood and ashley doesn’t really have a problem w y/n bc she hasn’t made romantic advances on andrew and occasionally lets the two hang out bc yk. ashley. anyways something something something idk
— i have one thing on my mind. catgirl + catboy ashley and andrew who both meet y/n as she’s their parents’ neighbor who’s smoking on her porch. and they approach her for some reason maybe andrew wants a cig and y/n is the funniest person alive so they both grow a liking to her
love love love catgirl ashley killing her victims and then poking them with her tail as andrew just stands there like wtf
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destinyc1020 · 9 months
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Hey Destiny, I don't know if you are still going to do confessional Sundays, but I have one, but I know ppl aren't going to like it.
1. I feel some tomdayas do too much with timdayas. I'm aware this is very unpopular, but let me explain. I'm not a timdaya, but I was a Timothee stan before I was a Tomdaya stan, so my perspective may be different. I feel Tomdayas need to accept that tindayas are going to exist and to stop giving them so much attention. This is not the first time both Tim and Z in their careers, are going to play with love interests that don't reflect their personal life(Timothee with Taylor in Bones and all whilst dating Kylie and Zendaya with Hunter and Mike and Josh while being with Tom).
Back in the day, actors had so much variety in their roles that had Z or Timothee been this age in the 90s, they would have been in 100 romcoms by now and ppl would be shipping them with their costars. It's not a reflection in real life. The insecurity projected unto Z is so weird because this same insecurity is never placed on Tom, and he had a makeout scene in TCR. No one thought he was dating his costar. It's obvious some Tomdayas are insecure, and tbh it's silly cause if you truly are a fan of both of them, you would know that the insecurity comes from film twitter and is not reflection in real life. Tom and Z love each other so much and have priotised so much being together. Only idiots think Timothee is a threat, lol. I also blame the lack of media literacy in this current generation. They see opinionated posts online and assume they are true, like aunties and uncles on Facebook, lol.
Timothee, respectfully, is a good actor but uses pr to benefit his films just like most actors. I saw some Tomdayas annoyed that he gifted Z wonka special edition shoes, assuming that he is trying to get with Z and is jealous of Tom. Are we bffr rn???? They are friends, nothing more, lol.
It seems you guys were not here last year for Bones and all promotion in Venice when Timothee and Taylor were PRing like their lives depended on it. Red carpet moments, TNT posts, and overall flirtatious interviews. At the time, I really thought they had something going on because i was gullibe and was happy. timothee was giving a black woman attention, lol. It was a self-fulfilling prophercy until, after the promotion of the film, when I saw them not liking each others posts, Taylor only praised Luca or did not hang out even when they were in the same city. It was then I realised it was just a job for them, lol. Its the same with Glen and Sydney doing the most to sell a film because its their job, lol.
I've been a fan of Timothee the longest, and most of his dating history happens offcamera than on until he started dating Kylie. I'm aware he dated Eiza and Lily, but when they dated, he barely spoke about them ever. Even when Lily and him had the King, they didn't stand next to each other on the red carpet, lol. Whether you like the pairing or not, this is who he wants to be with, and it's not Z, lol. Tom isn't insecure about Timothee at all. Timothee called him the rizz master for a reason. If anything, it's the other way round lol but that's for another discussion.
Paul and Chani's romance is going to be like the star was for our generation. Certain fans need to let go of this hypothetical insecurity that what's on screen is gonna be translated in real life. There's a reason why they didn't touch each other during the red carpet because both sides do too much.
There's also a consequence playing up to the romance of your titular characters in real life, Corey and India were close in the beginning of the pr of Queen Charlotte and towards the end in Brazil they bareley acknowledged because fans did too much and so did they lol.
The only way actors can do "showmances" is very early in theory careers as they don't have an established fanbase. In the new hunger games films, Tom blyth and Rachel Zegler have great chemistry, but they both have partners in real life, and so there's a line they don't cross and are still very popular. There are fans who want them together, but that's a loud minority.
Timothee and Z are well established in their careers, and it wouldn't make sense to do that.
Hopefully, I made sense, and you have a nice day!!
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Wow... this was a LOT Anon lol....
I'll try to answer your confession as succinctly as I can lol 😆
Hey Destiny, I don't know if you are still going to do confessional Sundays, but I have one, but I know ppl aren't going to like it.
Actually, yes! 75% of you said that you wanted to keep doing Confession Corner Sundays, so my inbox is open on Sundays for that.
You have to make sure you mention in your ask that it's a confession, and I'll know to treat it as such. 😊
Anyway, in answer to your ask.... I really don't think it's so much that Tomdaya fans are threatened by Timmy (let's get real), as it's more that we're sick and tired of some people seriously shipping them the ACTORS with each other when they are both in relationships with other people.
Also, when you blog, you do tend to see more nonsense coming into your inbox from trolls, so it might get more annoying 😑 than it would possibly for others who are just casually looking at things on the internet.
But yea, we all know that Tom and Z are basically married to each other by this point rofl, so it's not that we're "afraid" smthg would happen btwn her and Timmy lol. 😅 We just think it's very disrespectful for fans to be shipping her with her costar or trying to read into things that aren't even there. 🙄
Tbh, most of us just roll our eyes at Timdaya shippers and keep it moving. Most of us aren't giving them any real care like that.... at least, not on my blog.
We recognize the weirdness and laugh at it honestly. Trust me, MOST Tomdaya shippers aren't worried lol 😆 😂 Maybe the Tomdaya newbies are who you're referring to? But us old heads are like, been there, done that lol.
Back in the day, actors had so much variety in their roles that had Z or Timothee been this age in the 90s, they would have been in 100 romcoms by now and ppl would be shipping them with their costars. It's not a reflection in real life.
Actually, I challenge you on this. Would celebrities of the 90s be "shipped" with their costars? I don't really think so. 🤔 I don't think people shipped actors with each other like that. That seems to be smthg that grew out of more modern times. I kind of feel like back then, people were happy to see their favorite actors in a role together, but nobody really blurred the lines and tried to read more into a costar than necessary unless there were actual rumors of an off-camera romance btwn the two.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I just don't think that shipping was a thing back in the 90s. Most people probably knew the boundaries, especially if that actor was already in a serious dating relationship with someone else.
Most people didn't even know much about celebrities outside of what they saw in interviews, and there wasn't social media, so what on earth was there to ship exactly? 😅🤷🏾‍♀️
The insecurity projected unto Z is so weird because this same insecurity is never placed on Tom, and he had a makeout scene in TCR. No one thought he was dating his costar.
I blame the fans honestly. Z is also a woman, so she probably gets treated differently than her male counterparts.
SOME antis have tried it in the past when they tried to insinuate that smthg was going on with Tom and Sofia Ali, Tom and Emma, Tom and Ciara Bravo, etc. It's very small, but it has happened before. The reaction is the same.... we don't like it. 🤷🏾‍♀️ It's disrespectful.
It's one thing to say that two actors would look "cute" together, vs. "Smthg happened btwn them on set during filming...", or, "Did you see the way he looked at her? There's for sure smthg going on there, and they're just itching to break up with their significant others to finally be together like they've always wanted..." 🙄
Anyway.... I DO agree that fans shouldn't put too much stock into what weirdos say online. Weirdo Shippers are going to exist regardless... that just comes with the territory unfortunately 😕.
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castelobyers · 2 years
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No but to think that Max was manipulating El because she did what Max suggested is having a very bad understanding of El's character and Max's character
Max is opinionated and has a strong personality, of course she was going to tell El that she should dump Mike's ass, she's 14 and she always does that with her own boyfriend, the difference is that Mike is not Lucas (even though he was really trying to be), Mike doesn't understand El, he doesn't know how to reconcile with her and he doesn't know her needs, he cares about her but doesn't know her well like Lucas knows Max and understands her, so Lucas always manages to reconcile by giving Max what she wants (exactly like Lucas's dad taught him to do) but Mike doesn't know how to do it properly, his dad didn't teach him anything about how to treat girls and he doesn't even know El enough to know how to get around a situation like the one he was in, he should have told her the truth, not tried to buy her a present, he did it because he didn't know what to do so he did what Lucas would do, but as was said, El didn't it's Max, that doesn't work on her (I don't think it would work on Max either, but Lucas would know what to say to make Max understand and forgive him)
So Max saw a girl in a relationship with a guy who didn't understand that she needed to know herself, know the world, have her own friends and have her own tastes. Max was not trying to corrupt El, she was trying to make Mike understand her needs, because Max is someone who see El beyond her powers, Max didn't saw El as someone who needs to be taught about how the world works, Max saw El as someone who needed to learn about herself and understand herself, El was so used to always being told what she should do, that when Max said she should try things on, El opened up to things that she didn't knew that she could like, music and comics, that yes, Mike and hopper were introducing her to that kind of thing, but they didn't though if she would like other things besides the things that they themselves liked, Mike likes cheesy romantic songs and hopper likes some older songs, El likes pop music, El likes female superheroes, people she can see herself in them, El likes colorful and girly clothes, El likes to have fun with her powers, El likes to talk about banal things, El likes to just hang out with friends and stuff, that's what she was looking for in Lenora, she was looking for someone like Max is to her, and Mike don't understand it (and some people who say that are El stans don't understand either)
Max didn't try to make El be like her, Max tried to show her something the boys weren't showing her, something that only a female friendship could bring her.
Yes this is about the bad takes Milkvans have about all characters who correlates with their ship because they want Mike and El to seem good to each other even if it doesn't make sense in cannon, they are specialist in misunderstand the characters
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dojae-huh · 7 months
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I don't knw if lucas really did something wrong... I mean that anon said what he did can't be be flegiven.... Come on... I am not saying u should be forgive him... But we don't knw the truth.... Is it true that he did or it got this much time to heal, so finally the company is forcing him to accept the blame nd ask forgiveness for it.... Just like they did to ty with his scanadal.... I don't knw is it ty or the cmpny but in the end they didn't try to resolve it by finding the truth, instead ty took the blame and asked forgiveness nd yes he is forgiven by ppl..... Accepted him given him a second chance to show his worth... I fdont knw for sure, may b that's must be their plan with lucas....
I am not fan of lucas in the first place... I am a dy stan... Nd the way his appearance showed on old contens were really proof that he is not that a monster... In one content wayv members even started to cry just saying his name.... Nd u saying he did what to the members?? ... No pls we really don't knw how close they are nd how well they know each other.... Nd trust me if ever had situation to way v members to choose between Lucas nd u they would definitely choose him... That's how it works... Don't believe everything that they showing on in the content.... Thanku
I'm not well-versed in nuances of "face" culture. Things that are "unforgiveable" in China, Korea are different from each other and from the rest of the world.
Lucas' fans investigated and showed that the initial accusations were fabricated. Found who did it even. However, for the fandom at large it is irrelevant. A big mess happened. Lucas was accussed of multiple things, during the development of the scandal antis added more and more elaborated "crimes" to his name. He fell from graces. He was blacklisted, his name was written down into the same list as a real criminal (ex-Exo member). He damaged his group, he betrayed the trust of his fans.
All idols ask forgiveness for dissapointing their fans, whether they did something wrong or not. You don't make excuses, you take the blame. Sometimes, in simple cases, when a source of accusations is public (a private journalist on YT) or easy to pinpoint (existing socmed account, not anonymous), companies clear up things. It is rare though. There are no good laws that protect from stalking or defamation.
You take the blame, say you were a fool, you will reflect and do better from now on. You basically fall on you knees and beg for forgiveness.
In the movie there were allusions to Lucas being very young/inexperienced, overworked, and away from the family. Basically, that he did and said stupid things because he didn't know better, but now he is a changed man, life gave him a lesson, he grew up.
Lucas said he misses the times with WayV, but for a long time it was hard to face the members because he failed them. They hang out now though.
Lucas and mainland China are over. At least for foreseeable future. In the movie he talked in Korean and Cantonese only, so it was clear who he addressed.
Chris Lee is not liked, his association with Lucas will be used against the latter.
However, the movie shows Lucas' manager who met him at the airport when little Wong arrived to Seoul, and was with him throught Lucas' mental breakdown. Took him for a haircut and to the gym, helped to face the world again. He is the witness, fans should watch him and take in his opinion of the idol. A manager is not an actor, Lucas gave him a lot of troubles, the man wouldn't be able to hide animosity to the artist even if he tried. Instead, we can see a very supporting hyung, who likes the idol he takes care of.
The problems with fans is that they believe words and not their own eyes. They can't judge character, so they follow someone's opinions. You, anon, were able to make a profile just by looking how Lucas interacted with NCT members, how he behaved during programmes. Others don't try or quickly change their opinion not able to defend it against the pressure of the masses.
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peppertaemint · 8 months
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I was wondering your thoughts about this still to this day, hate on SuperM from fans of the groups (mostly EXO-Ls), that were in SuperM. A reaction channel recently featured a few SuperM videos and the comment section was a g.d. hot mess. I cannot believe almost 5 years later and people (again mostly annoying ass EXO-Ls) are still being petty and childish asf about them. Anything from: they were created for evil (yes evil lmao) purposes by LSM to it was a horrible time for Kai and Baekhyun because they were so overworked and LSM scolded Baekhyun for his opinins so it's odd that some EXO-Ls would like that group to they were created to "take down" BTS because LSM was jealous etc etc and all that bullshit. Sometimes I can't believe I'm part of the idiot species who think like that lmao None of those excuses for hating a group with seven talented and attractive as hell adult men, make any sense. The overworked shit drives me nuts the most because it's once again babying these grown ups who are old enough to make their own decisions and knew juggling multiple groups was going to be tricky but wanted to be part of it. I am so sick of "fans" being angry, upset, defensive or hurt on behalf of these adults. LSM scolded Baekhyun. Okay??? Lmao Like that's between those two and nobody knows the level of the scolding anyway. Baek didn't say "LSM cursed me the fuck out and told me he's gonna kick my dog next time he sees him" scolding can even be done playfully. I just can't wrap my mind around all the stupid excuses to hate on this group. EXO-CBX are having a comeback this year and Baekhyun is having an Asian tour and a solo album (I forget if that's been confirmed though lol) on top of an EXO mini album. No fucking cries of being overworked there. What do you think is behind this SuperM hate because I saw six (sorry Lucas lol) ridiculously talented people who enjoyed being around each other while singing fun (arguably) catchy songs. People saying that group is over and Baek and Kai will never be part of that group again, meanwhile Taemin in November called Baekhyun SuperM's leader. Idk if that group is done for good but to still be bitter and bitchy about them is mindblowing to me.
Oh, Anon. It's a sport to hate SuperM. A passionate hobby for many. Before I had listened to the group, I was told by quite several people what a "fail" they were, how terrible they were, etc. When I encountered them, I was expecting the worst.
Now, there are legitimate reasons to criticize. A lot of the music is ridiculous, the concepts ridiculous, etc. Like, the entire "Avengers" concept was flawed from the get-go. Peak cringe. But, at the end of the day, it's still a group with 6 of the most talented people in the entire genre. That can't be denied. And for that reason, I do have reason to believe it will return at some point. When you have a diamond, you wear it.
If you're expecting EXO fans to stop making hatred a sport, it will never happen. They are the original army; they're the blueprint for BTS's fans. EXO paved the way for BTS, and so did their fans (ppl are so dumb if they can't see that, but I digress...). They love to be butt hurt and make it everyone else's problem. I'm always grateful that the problem with shawols is that their standards are sky-high, lol. And they rarely waste time on such nonsense.
And I'm with you. I give zero shits if Baekhyun gets scolded at work. Who hasn't been scolded at work? I scold and get scolded, lol. That's work. Unfortunately, a lot of the people drawn to the kpop "stan" thing are people who aren't familiar with having an ambitious and demanding career. For us that are chasing something, you do work hard and overstretch yourself and get scolded and fail and try again. Lots of things happen if you're chasing a dream. What I hate is the "overwork" thing you bring up because it's just very clear these people don't know what it's like to go after your dreams and start succeeding. And they don't understand what a lot of people's lives are like. Only slept a few hours and went to work? Yep, that happens. Working all day and hustling a side business at night or studying or something else? Yep, that happens. Traveling for work so much you forget where you are or what your hotel room number is? Yes.. LOL. I have to keep the little thing they write it on or I'll be in big trouble.
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let's do a trade I'll send you this ask so u can ramble and splode and u send me the same one so I can also ramble and splode
💕 tell us about one of your favorite characters and why you like them!
my flavourite character...
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IRUMA OF COUSRSE......
i love.... the way that he doesn't despair. like man lucas your favourite episode is such a fucking good episode bruh. when kiriwo wants to see the look of despair on his face and hes just like haha no there is no point in that. optimism win.
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RAHHH sorry for the world's shittiest screenshot ok i'm trying to spice things up with pictures OKK
i love how throughout the progression of the story he becomes more determined and ambitious. like he used to never focus on himself and then he learns to do that and its just so hdifuudh I LOVE watching his growth so much
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i love this episode so much bc i love . angst. EHAUEHAUEG like okay. i have so much to say but also do i. yes. ok ok ok ok so so so so like this episode fucking tore me apart lucas YOU WERE THERE WUAHEUAHEAYEH. i fucking love angst and man. when he saw his parents i was like omfg. sigh he is so traumatized and then when he was crying sobbing freaking the out about being alone i was just like AUGH. AUGHHHHH
his internal monologue about having always been fine by himself but being scared that everyone will leave him and he'll be alone again is something that plays in my head like every day i seriously think about it all the time. and it hurt me so much that there was no one there to comfort him but like he shot through his fear which i absolutely loved and then also like i said in the previous ask abt the together with a friend chapter he learned to rely on other people and ask for support and i just
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like i'm just going to melt istg. this is what i'm talking about when i say i love the way that he's grown. i love the way we've SEEN HIM GROW.
i find him so fascinating i want to pick apart his brain and dissect him and also put him in a little jar and inspect him. i also often think about the way that he refuses to despair because in his past then despairing was pointless and useless bc he needed to always keep going and keep trying to survive. i also find it fascinating how his behaviours can be explained by his traumatic past like how he's a total pushover (same lmao) and how he always eats so much and of course the way that he knew so much about survival during HF.
his fear of loneliness is literally so yummy (i love angst) and like you and i were talking about before you said he'd probably be the type to try not to burden others with his problems and i also find that so yummy to because like man this silly little guy has so many issues.
i also really like how sweet and kind he is (kinda ties into the pushover thing a little... again, i kin). like he's just so kind and considerate agsuusdhsudhei i love him
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okay. another thing i love about iruma? his genderfluidity
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hello irumi?????**#(#(*$$*&&$((#$&(@# need i say more?
(i will say more.)
i fucking love irumi. iruma is so gendering. he is the lgbtq+. you know wha i mean obviously because you said it first.
i love that mairuma literally just has casual crossdressing . like yeah there was some ??? i have to wear a dress ??? but like. irumi slays. she looks so good in that like look at her. and the way everyone is a fan of her including the people that know she is iruma which btw its so fucking obvious she looks exactly like iruma unlike kuromu vs kerori but whatever EUAHEIAHE
i find it funny that in the start of s2 i think(?) then ali was like change into something youd never wear so he tried imagining something he'd never wear and it ended up being that frilly dress bc like.... would he really never wear that ? 🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨 i love irumi so fucking much oh my gosh also its SO FUNNY that theres male akudols too but irumi is still irumi because ofc she is i fucking love irumi so much i'm her #2 stan (since #1 stan is you lucas)
another another thing i love about iruma? the way he looks so good with different styles
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HE'S ALWAYS SO CUTE I JUST GAHHHHHHHHH OH MY GOD. i love his ponytail the most but nust like oh my gosh. i also love how excited he gets about things its seriously so cute (again i kin GDKDHKSH) GOSH GOSH GOSH GOSH i literally love iruma so much i'm going to fucking expldor
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the music festival arc actually makes me so fucking emotional i could writr a whole fcuking other essay about that but anyways yeah i love iruma so much he is my favourite character in mairuma literally #1 comfort character as of right now probably honestly??? yeah i think so. blorbo of all time. thankyuu for listening.
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zhoras-bitch · 2 years
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My Playchoices MCs #4
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It Lives is an amazing book and the MC is an absolute legend. I haven’t changes much about their looks, only removed the bangs and gave them a piercing. I have a ton of headcanons about them though so see the notes under the cut.
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I really hope I didn’t mess up with the name. From what I gathered, De is usually masculine, but I think it could work as a unisex name too. It’s supposed to be pronounced like Deh, but their non-Vietnamese friends call them Dee. 
Her parents moved to the US from Vietnam when De was a baby. They work for some big humanitarian non-profit, and their job entails a lot of lengthy trips around the world. They are good people, but they kind of have their heads in the clouds a little. Like yeah, let's leave our underage kid alone in the country for weeks, she'll be fine. 
Lucky for them, De is actually very well adjusted, although it might not seem like that from the outside. Best way to describe their routine is controlled chaos. You won’t catch them dead following any kind of daily schedules, and their friends give them shit for never eating 3 meals a day. But they not at all irresponsible, they just know what works for them, and they never cross the line. 
Neurodivergent, it just makes so much sense in my head that they have ASD.
Loves really long hikes, would often just grab a tent and a sleeping bag and leave for the weekends. Bonus points if there is a cliff she can climb because she’s kind of an adrenaline junkie when it comes to sports. Her parents have no idea about these little adventures and they’d probably loose their mind if they did.
In school, they were the kind of student who mostly gets Cs, but then there are a few subjects they actually like, and they completely dominate those. In De’s case, those subjects were math and physics. Despite their shitty grades, they managed to brute force her way into a decent college. Plans to go into quantum physics. They actually have theories about how the power fits into it, but once they starts rambling about those, only Tom has any idea about wtf De’s saying. The two of them kind of geek out about it a little sometimes.
Came out as nonbinary after the events of the ILITW book (yeah, this is my explanation as to why she uses she/her pronouns in book 1). In their case, they don't really feel like any gender in particular, so they go by any pronouns. Mostly they/them among friends, except Andy who leans towards he/him and uses every chance to call De his bro/dude etc. (he's just really excited to have a trans friend, and De thinks it's cute). 
They’re a very physical person. They like making stuff with their hands and they often show affection through touch.
De’s very protective of her friends. Her worst nightmare is being unable to help them. She’d rather spend 4 years trying to literally bring Noah back from the dead than admit that she can’t help him.
In my original playthrough, De’s love interest was Lucas and I still love him a lot, but ILW converted me into a Dan stan. So in my ‘canon’ ILITW playthrough De is single, and they only start dating Dan during the events of ILW. This pairing just makes so much sense to me, they are both sensitive, reliable and protective. Even the fact that it takes them years to get together seems very in character, they are both always too busy taking care of other people to fix their own lives.
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ronanceisintheair · 1 year
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b*lly stans are wild like YOU FILTERED HIM AND TAGGED IT AS ANTIS BUT THEY STILL CAME FOAMING AT THE MOUTH. like uh. so sorry we think johnathan would care more about victims of b*lly's abuse than the racist abuser himself, even if he was also abused. and when discussing steve did they forget that johnathan beat the shit out of him in that fight and only got on eh terms once steve got him a new camera and apologized??? wild. and again they need to learn about filtering and scrolling JFC
Literally amazes and astounds me how they will go out of their way to get big mad. It's tagged ANTI, idk blacklist the anti tag then?? Ever thought of that😂 like you can't get mad at me when I'm using the proper tags!
I'm so glad you get it anon. Truly blasphemous and like deranged behavior? Idk who looks at Jonathan and thinks he'd feel bad for b*lly.(yea he might feel bad for the dude being abused but he has critical thinking. He's not going to sympathize with b*lly passing his abuse down to max and then using his racism and hatred towards lucas. Oh yea and the fact b*lly threatened and would've ran over the kids) LIKE WHAT?!
The most delusional group of people.
The way they talk ass backwards about what everyone else has done...always blowing it out of proportion or not telling the full truth, but oh no can't mention what their disgusting demented fave did, can't mention those truths that they will sugarcoat and water down...like gtfo of here with that. bffr!
At this point you can't even tag anti because they're watching that tag like hawks apparently 😂😂
(And what people don't get is Max is also a victim of abuse, thanks to b*lly...since they think comparing him to Jonathan isn't the same, Max is actively under threat and in fear of b*lly up until the moment he dies. We don't see her bullying and trying to murder the party or any other kids. We don't see her being racist and disgusting despite the way b*lly wants to beat that disgusting belief into her. No, instead she sees his awful beliefs and actions and wants to protect Lucas. She recognizes that it's horrible. She recognizes and even states she doesn't want to be like him. So if Jonathan is going to protect anyone from anything it's Max. B*lly no doubt is also homophobic, idk something in the interactions/intimidation tactics with Steve. But believe you me Jonathan ABSOLUTELY would beat the shit out of b*lly to protect anyone of them. So yes. I say again bffr.)
Sorry for the rant. Sorry for the tangent.
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katlandry · 1 year
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you are 100% wrong on the kids thing.
Steve is the only character you listed that has canonically interacted with all 7 kids.
Nancy barely interacted with Lucas, Erica and Max.
Robin barely interacted with Lucas.
Steve is the only teen Max gave a letter to.
You cant override the junkyard, and defending the kids from Billy in s2, Max and Lucas are Steve's kids based on that alone.
Erica? You're overlooking Scoops Troop. S3. She is Steve and Robin's. An argument could be had here that Dustin is Steve and Robin's, again because of the Scoops Troop.
The real listing would be El and Will are Jonathans. Not Jancys, Jonathans. Nancy doesn't have any major connection to either of those kids, and very little interaction.
Mike is Nancy's. He's her brother.
Erica and Dustin are Steve and Robins. They didn't break into a Russian base together to get overlooked like that.
Max and Lucas are Steve's.
But, typical Ronance shipper, taking away the canonical interactions and relationships Steve has and trying to give them to Nancy, it just doesn't work.
In canon, Nancy barely cares enough to spend time with her own brother. Why the hell would she suddenly care about all the other kids when it's not an upside down situation.
LMAO okay. First of all, take a deep breath because my post was never this serious and you don’t need to be this mad over headcanons (typical Steve stan getting mad when someone disagrees that Steve is a “mom” to all the kids though)
Okay so not sure why I need to explain my headcanons but here we go.
Steve has barely interacted with Will and El so that barely counts, especially if you’re trying to say Nancy’s barely interacted with some of them.
Nancy hasn’t interacted much with Lucas on the show but it’s literally canon she dressed up as an Elf to help them with their D&D campaign, she’s also known all of the boys for as long as Mike has.
Again, these are headcanons, no one is overriding anything. I forgot about Scoops Troop when I made this tbh, my only reasoning for giving Erica to Nancy was bc I see her looking up to Nancy like Max & El do.
Max has never really had a female role model and she clearly has that with Nancy, she calls her a role model in Runaway Max and also talks about how badass she is. They spend time together in S4 where both Robin and Nancy are protective over her. It’s also canon that Nancy and Max have a friendship, and who was Max‘s second choice to find after Lucas in S4? Nancy. Not Steve. She went to find Nancy before Dustin even.
There’s no need to be an argument because these are my headcanons lmao, but if you feel that defensive about it why don’t you just make your own post? :)
Nancy and Jonathan are literally canon are practically endgame so yeah Will and El are Jancy’s. Again, Nancy has been in Will’s life for a very long time. I reiterate, she used to help them with D&D campaigns. El also obviously looks up to Nancy, you should probably do some research into this.
In canon, Nancy and Mike’s relationship is a lot deeper than what you’re making it seem. You’re literally just looking at things from a surface level.
But again, it’s really not that deep. They’re headcanons.
Not sure what you’re getting at with “Typical Ronance shipper” these are HEADCANONS. You don’t have to agree, but you also don’t have to be so rude about it. There’s plenty of headcanons I disagree with but I just scroll past bc who am I to tell someone their headcanons are wrong?
Also, please do not come into my ask box and mischaracterise Nancy. She very obviously cares about the kids, upside down situation or not, like I’m sorry did you miss the end of season two when she’s sad bc Dustin is crying & getting turned down by girls so she goes over and asks him to dance with her?
Anyways, the main reason I made that post was bc the “mom” Steve thing is probably the cringiest thing in this fandom and it makes me want to put myself in a blender. The GA especially take it too far. And like I said in the tags, I don’t like it when people act as though Nancy & Jonathan don’t do anything when they’ve been there since the beginning and would protect those kids with their life
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clarkegriffins · 2 years
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a hot take that shouldn’t be a hot take at all but here we go: the writers didn’t ruin the wheeler siblings y’all just like living in headcanons, but hey whatever makes you happy, just don’t be annoying about it when people point it out.
mike was always this little shit kid that when he gets angry he lashes out a bit (just like max btw, they’re twins) but he always apologizes, always tries to make things right, he’s not perfect, he’s a kid, and don’t use the “but person A it’s also a kid and they don’t act like that” bc here’s the thing: they are ALL different from each other, if u don’t like the way mike acts then u can always stan another character, there’s more 3 boys in the party you know, also the whole “i want season 2 mike back” is insane bc season 2 mike was depressed and going through heavy ptsd after losing el/seeing el dying in front of him, he literally said to will that he was going crazy bc of it, and ALSO he was treating max badly bc of that, max who was just trying to fit in, but almost no one complained bc he was being gentle with their favorite, but then again, many people from st fandom doesn’t care abt women am i right? as long mike is treating character A nicely is fine. like i was really upset bc he didn’t go to lucas’ game, A LOT btw, but dustin didn’t go either so why is always on mike? y’all punish him way too much, also while i do agree and said many times how i want more plot for mike like in season 1, him being the leader of the party and all, we also need to accept that el is part of that, his character was created in love with her, loving her is part of who he is, i think finn wolfhard said that if i’m not mistaken, we can root for him to get more plot and more screentime, having more scenes with the party, but loving el is NOT GOING TO CHANGE and that doesn’t ruin his character bc THATS WHO HE IS, he loves her since season 1 and will love her until the end. u can dislike it, of course u can, u should ship what U want to, but dont make things up about his character to fit ur own narrative. 
nancy from season 1 to season 4 remains the most badass and independent women from this show (besides joyce, and el, whos also independent af), if there’s one thing nancy’s character will NEVER lose is her independence, no matter how this love triangle ends, she’ll NEVER lose her independence bc that’s just how nancy is, nancy wasn’t reduced as a love interest, her love life is just a tiny part of who she is, this girl has been character-driven from day one, and being in love with jonathan or steve won’t change that, nancy was ALWAYS bigger than her love life, she’s REALLY important for the plot, u just need to WATCH THE SHOW to know that, but y’all need to accept that being in love with jonathan or steve (we don’t know yet how this plot will end) is part of her. female characters can be in love and still be badass and independent just as they can be soft and kind, stop making them choose. s4 nancy was a masterpiece, she gets better and better every season. and whatever life SHE chooses, i know she’ll still be kicking ass and taking names bc THAT’S nancy wheeler and nothing will change that.
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mindlesscreator91 · 2 years
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Lucas and his love island Journey
(Note: I had these thoughts for quite a while now but I was too embarrassed to post because I didn’t think it would make sense, but after seeing @0shewrites0 theory and some of @mercedesdecorazon works, I got inspired to post. Also the sections will be titled after movie puns, Idk why I did this.)
While I have gotten to love Lucas through fanfics and headcannons, I have yet to play his route ( I’m too stubborn to let Lottie have Gary). So all the information that I’m using for this is based off of Photos I’ve seen, information I’ve heard from Lucas stans on this website, and the occasional video that follows his route. So if I get any information wrong or if my reasoning feels slightly off, feel free to correct me. On top of that, the reason why I wanted to do this was because I was really curious about the discussion amongst fans about how glitchy his route was, and how developers haven’t really put much thought into it compared to the OG guys. There’s also this idea that he was supposed to be the secondary love interest, but after script changes it was dropped. So, out of curiosity, I tried piecing together the moments from his route and his Henrik’s route (since their kind of interconnected) to try and see the full story.
Lucas’ route aka How to Lose a Guy in 4 Days
In my opinion, I feel like Lucas‘ route was meant to be a the one that got away route. The islander who managed to connect with MC, but because of certain unfortunate circumstances, was taken away. So when he returns, it’s supposed to be this joyous moment between two people who were pulled apart and brought back together. If he does end up staying, he ends up with Henrik’s dialogue which makes it seem like he’s not interested, when in fact he is. The middle section of the game is so wired to Henrik, that if Lucas ends up staying, he ends up with Henrik’s dialogue and arc instead of his own.
What do I mean? When we first meet the guys you can tell that there’s distinct differences between them. The game goes out of their way to show how much of an odd couple dynamic they have, Lucas the posh rich boy with a seductive charm and a more mature outlook and Henrik the outdoorsy nature boy with a childlike sense of wonder. There dialogues match their personalities and even their relationships with the other islanders differ. For example, While Henrik is shown to have a great relationship with Bobby and Gary, enjoying their jokes and banter, Lucas is shown not responding positively to the both of them. Once we get past day 9, things get a little clunky, especially for Lucas. Fans have mentioned that he starts acting out of character, but I don’t think he’s just acting out of character, I think he’s acting as someone else entirely.
Lurik’s route a.k.a. Don’t Be a Menace on Love Island While Doing Henrik’s Route in the Villa
Like I said, the game gets real weird in the middle. Between the two of them, this section is mostly tailored towards Henrik, even though there’s certain moments that should have Lucas there instead of him. So there ends up being this weird middle ground were he’s not supposed to be there, but also him being there makes sense because of the side plot that they give him.
Let’s try breaking this down shall we? The section were Lucas is mostly important is during the Operation Nope arc, we see this plot point come up around days 10-12.
- [ ] After you finish talking to Priya and Bobby about Operation Nope, you head to the kitchen to see Gary and Lucas. If you take the diamond choice to tell them about the plan, Lucas says he should go find and check up on Hope.
- [ ] When you go to talk to Hope on the roof terrace, she mentions Noah’s comment about her excitement over Lucas.
- [ ] Later on if you listen in on Noah and Priya, Noah makes the comment about how both Jakub and Lucas are into Hope. (Yes he says this about Henrik too, but it doesn’t make sense because Henrik hasn’t shown any interest in Hope)
Once Jakub starts to slither his way in between Hope and Noah, there’s nothing left for Lucas to do. After this, everything else is purely Henrik. We don’t see anything tailored towards Lucas until his return.
Before I get to Casa, I want to go on a tangent about something that happens during the disaster recoupling. Before you get chosen, there’s a moment where Lurik seems almost reluctant to pick you, looking over at Noah (who’s with Priya) and they end up giving a really shitty speech. For the Lucas stans, That negative recoupling speech is supposed to be said by Henrik because of his lack of interest in MC. Remember when both men are introduced, their default dialogue has Lucas interested in Hope and MC, while Henrik has an interest in Priya and Lottie. You have to outright reject Lucas in order to get Henrik’s attention. Besides that, when Lucas leaves, Henrik has that dialogue claiming how you probably wish it was him who left instead of Lucas which again makes sense since by default, Lucas likes Mc. So when it comes time for the disaster recoupling, Henrik looking over at Priya and saying how he wants her make sense because he’s actually interested in her and he’s stuck choosing between Marisol (not interested), Chelsea (a girl he hasn’t known for that long and is clearly into Gary), Lottie (someone he had feelings for at one point but she became too wrapped up in Gary to acknowledge him), and the MC who (by default) has feelings for his friend Lucas. The reason Lucas says it on his route (the one where you have to use reverse psychology on the girls to get him to stay) is because the game has him programmed as Henrik. Lucas is not supposed to be there, Henrik is, so he ends up with his reactions and dialogue.
Continuing on, the whole casa amor arc is purely for Henrik. We see that he wanted the other girls, but got left with MC. On top of that, he saw how they didn’t reciprocate his feelings plus the video clip where it looks like MC was nibbling that guy’s ear (proving her lack of interest in him). So as a way to move on, he couples up with the first girl who showed interest in him, Blake. Why would Lucas, the man who is so interested in MC, choose Blake? Especially if MC showed her loyalty to him by rejecting the other guys in the main villa. While Henrik interprets the clip as her moving on because of past occurrences, I feel like Lucas would know the clip that he sees of her is of the same challenge he and the boys took. Heck, he and Hope (if you don’t take it) do the same 30 second kissing challenge. The only reason why Lucas chose Blake, was because Henrik chose Blake.
Gary the main and Lucas the secondary aka Rennell vs. Koh
Besides Henrik (obviously) and Noah somewhat, the only other guy that Lucas has a close tie to in his arc is Gary. When the guys first come in, theirs immediately this tension between Gary and Lucas. Gary thinks of Lucas as a cocky rich pretty boy, and Lucas thinks and even says Gary is a man who beds anything that walks. The tension worsens when Lucas reveals that he has an interest in MC causing Gary, who also has a crush on her no matter the route, to sweat. On top of that, Marisol mentions to Gary that MC may have feelings for him right back. The only time the rivalry gets pushed to the side, is when Roccogate happens. If you’re apart of the drama, Lucas defends you during the tweets game and either of them can have a moment to check on you at the fire pit. The rivalry ends when Lucas leaves the villa.
The only time the rivalry comes back is if your on a Gary's route during the R!Hannah drama. Lucas and Hannah are supposed to act as a test of temptation for you and Gary. Despite his behavior, Gary is not really tempted by Hannah. MC on the other hand, is kind of supposed to be tempted by Lucas. Both he and Gary have genuine feelings for MC and both of them also connected with her on a deep level, so when he comes back she’s stuck choosing between two great guys she got to know, her day 1 and the one who got away.
The rivalry officially ends when you choose between the two. If you choose Gary, you guys come out the whole ordeal much stronger. Fully trusting each other, and finally able to enjoy the rest of your stay in the villa in peace (well Lottie is still there, but at this point she’s irrelevant). If you choose Lucas without cheating, you guys reunite and also have a very nice time in the villa. Surprisingly, things go smoothly for both couples.
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rebelrayne · 2 years
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Honestly? Priya is gorgeous and all but she's not that good of a friend, way too immature for her age and I don't pity her getting dumped at all. She was right about not fitting in to be honest. I think it was her fate that she was in line for a dumping.
I don't think Lucas should have been an LI, he's not much of a good one and the same goes for Ibrahim. I just don't trust them around MC...sorry. They just weren't made for her.
Noah should have stayed off limits if they well knew they weren't planning on letting us have him in the first place, it was SO messy and I hate the entire concept of operation Nope. As sad as it is...they should have gave him a proper route or not at all.
They should have continued with the "Player Bobby" storyline...because why do I feel like it was dropped after they saw his popularity to please the mass? But with the switch of writers I guess we'll never know.
Also Returning Hannah and Returning Lurik were a waste of time. They didn't add anything to the plot and should have just stayed at home. What "rekindling flame" storyline- I don't see it.
I asked for unpopular opinions and boy, did you deliver! Okay let’s goooo
Priya - 100% agree. I said it in another ask, Priya is one year older than I am canon. She’s so immature and she’s not ready for a relationship. I didn’t feel bad when she was dumped either. My mc happily helped her pack like bye.
Lucas, I do like him. He’s probably one of the only LIs in S2 I can still stomach but I’m currently trying to get through Gary (very slowly). Lucas definitely can rub people the wrong way though so I can see why you dislike him as an LI.
Noah’s route is 1000% the worst afterthought in LITG history. The way they just made him available at the end… I like Noah but I like his headcanon. His route is pretty difficult to do, I always do it along with someone else so I can just restart the day to finish with him and the other LI.
Bobby as a player. I’ve gone back and forth on this. I used to be a Bobby Stan (yes, yes, go ahead and gasp) and thought it was possible they wanted to hint this then I decided I didn’t think he was. I think this was another victim of FB lazy writing - if you’re not with Bobby, he’s clearly just playing the field in friendship couples which could come off with a player vibe so it fits but it comes off as he’s not genuine if you are coupled. If you didn’t know, Bobby can give a friendship couple speech at the first recouple (no one ask me what he says it was literally my first play through and I’ve never gotten it again). I don’t think Bobby is a player but could have been interesting to see it in the game!
Okay but YES. I cannot stand returning Hannah so any scenario where I never have to see her face again, I’m for it. Where do I sign up?? Also yeah, I guess the only purpose returning lurik will do is if you want to lose (which some people do) so it does add to the story there. But Hannah? Yeah goodbye, go write another book about your thirty seconds in the villa 😂
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i just remembered that ur in the south park fandom too, so,,,, st x sp au?
(i know they technically alr did that special episode but yk what i mean lol)
i love this like- they're such huge hyperfixations for me i- thanks. just thanks.
this isn't exactly an au??? more like who's who in both universes i guess!!!
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stan is definitely mike. there is no doubt. it's obvious. their families and lives are basically the same and their personality is pretty much alike! they're both paladins too??? like??? they're both seen as selfish at some point but they're just struggling! they hate feeling vulnerable and are really really stubborn when it comes to arguments. they have this inferiority complex they try to hide with their savior complex and both of them have this extreme fear of not being enough and losing the people they love!
kyle has to be will because he's super best friends in a definitely not gay way with stan (i had to make byler and style happen okay). they're both smart, sweet, love their families, they're done with literally everyone and follow morals and righteousness! maybe will isn't exactly like kyle because he loses his temper over nothing (it often is because of cartman, really) and is able to go to extremes sometimes. but i do think that when they get mad at stan/mike they're pretty much the same! and they fight for what's right and tbh they've been through a lot and they're trying so hard give them a breaaaak
butters is obviously el because he often doesn't understand what's going on and had a pretty shitty life (specifically because of his dad). just like el! they're both kindhearted but they aren't dumb and would do anything for their friends. plus, butters is pretty much bald already so- plus he became a main character only to cover up the fact that kenny was dead (cof cof el appearing when will's missing/dead cof cof)
kenny is max and i KNOW it probably doesn't make sense but hear me out! kenny is the only one who treats butters like he deserves and actually sees him as a person and not some guy they can just use. the way kenny/max act around butters/el is basically the same thing and they both help them get out of their codependent relationships! and kenny is like in a huge coma in between death and life?? hello??? max in S4/5???? and kenny would be the one getting vecna'd and dying duh! tbh their personalities are alike too! they are the cool ones of their group and have strong opinions on people! they have a shitty life too and abuse never stopped them from being heroes.
hear me out do not judge before reading this: cartman is dustin. AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE THINKING BUT HEAR ME OUT- please forget about everything awful eric does (i know it's hard but please do) and focus on the good stuff! they're both highly intelligent and always make the best plans. they're definitely the brain of the group and can get sarcastic and mean and low-key manipulative if they want. but they're actually sweethearts??? like obviously dustin is kind and sweet but eric is too! sometimes! not too many times tho--- but i swear he is sometimes! and avoiding the fact that the cartman/butters dynamic is toxic af, if you only see the good moments they have and the fact that they're canon bffs it could be similar to dustin/el. i don't agree with most of the things eric does but we gotta admit that when he is on the good team he has awesome ideas but!!! no one!!! hears him!! just like dustin.
tolkien is lucas it's so damn obvious- they have they same arguments with stan/mike because they just don't get to understand their struggles and they never seem to listen to them when they're the voice of the reason most of the time. both tolkien and lucas are pretty logical and goal-oriented and have awesome ideas! they just want to have fun and chill and they're both really really sweet and hilarious! i don't think tolkien is as chaotic as lucas tho?? he's more on the calm side. but i think they're both similar in a lot of other stuff!!
clyde is soooo steve coded! they're both seen as dumb and superficial and cool and everyone thinks they're just the "popular guy" when actually they're so so sweet! they care so much about their friends and they try so hard to make everyone happy!!! even if they focus a lot on dating and image. girls don't really want them for their true selves (they only want steve for his looks and money and clyde because of his dad's job). and they cry and whine for EVERYTHING they're so done give them a break-
craig is so so so so much like robin! they're seen as sarcastic and serious at first but then when they open up they can't shut up. they have the same issue with social cues and they use sarcasm as a coping mechanism A LOT. plus they're clyde/steve's bffs and their dynamic is basically the same. they're highly intelligent and always have the best plans, although they didn't even intend to be there in the first place.
tweek is vickie because i said so and because vickie gives me the adhd/anxious energy tweek has. and because tweek is dating craig and i really really wanted creek to happen in this au.
please forget for a moment that i said mike is stan and just focus on personality here! wendy is so much like nancy! both girlbosses, love journalism, i don't have any proof but nancy was def class president, and both would gladly use a gun if needed. they're so strong and smart and always fight for what's right!! literally the same character. when everyone seems to be against them and their ideas they always fight for their stories! i admire them so much for that
idk who jonathan could be??? maybe jimmy! i love them both a lot and they're both so sweet and funny! idk they just give me the same vibe but maybe it's just that i don't have more main characters to use-
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