#Nimbasa Trio headcanons

[xero013]

Yes! Purple is fine.

I adore all your art, especially the black and white ones but your coloring is also amazing. They both have depth in different ways and I'm just- no words for it but unrestrained excitement.

My absolute favorite so far is the one with the magazine and Ingo's little Litwick cup. The twins hair and the way it curls in opposite directions? Elesa nails? The way the twins communicate with just glances? The pacing of the comic? Akfhezhsjwkdbkwak

Divine. Ascending. Absolutely gone. Beyond saving.

Love the way you do the serious and detailed to simplistic transitions for changes in atmosphere.

These absolute dorks.

And the way all three interact with other? As teenagers. When Elesa is teasing them? The twins and Elesa looking intimidating AF then just having fun talking about trains. The hunt for tynamo?

Screaming. Storming feet. Flappy hands. So happy?!

The mermaid/siren au you have? Confused baby Elesa and mischief twins?

Thank you so much for the food. 🥺 The time and effort you must put into these...

Absolutely blessed 💕🥰

💜

Purple. Purple.

Please your gonna kill me with the compliments HSJSHSHSH

But thank you? For just info-dumping some details of my artworks? I am so??? AHHH

Funny you say about the way how the twins' hairs curl in different directions.

Cuz actually Emmet's hair would've been the same as Ingo's if he wasn't an impulsive lil' menace who regrets everything right after.

(Idea and scenario was based on my bff's impulsively chopping off her bangs and IMMEDIATELY regretting her decisions lolol)

Elesa can sometimes be a perfectionist, if there is one teensy mistake🤏 she'd be hung up over it if she couldn't do anything about it or would try to fix it right away if she can.

(also I just recently learned models aren't allowed to have long nails so

Elesa's an exception cuz she's both working on her modelling career AND a gym leader, she can cheat fr)

(Ingo's Litwick cup makes a return \o/ if I had more time to draw, you would've seen Emmet's collection of Klink plates lol)

Also thank you!! I'm really glad you're enjoying my works :D happening to feed people while I'm feeding myself is a win/win situation for me!

(Thinking of actually dabbling back into the mermaid au Nimbasa trio idea for a while since I shared that old wip lmfao)

[gummywurm-gaming]

I like to think drayton didn't know that ingo was missing for a really long time, lacey knew because her dad knew but she along with emmet, elesa, drayden, and iris all agreed not to tell him so he would focus on his school work and pass his second year(technically third year as he failed too many classes his actual second year and had to retake it) and it worked for a while! Drayton was blissfully unaware until clay visited lacey one day and was confused as to why drayton was so happy and carefree.

"Son why do you look so happy? you know your dad's missing right?" followed by a small "what?" from drayton, processing clays words as lacey trys to tell her dad to stop but it's too late. "ingos been missing for months now, did you seriously not know?" lacey finally gets Clay out of the room as drayton begins to spiral.

drayton becomes distant and starts to fail classes again, leading him to fail second year again.

[blackcoffeemania]

Nimbasa Trio Flaw HCs 🖤⚡️🤍

⚡️Elesa has had a couple of surgeries in the past and has some light surgical scars on her sides and inner thigh

⚡️She usually hides it with makeup and photo editing, but there are some pictures where they are clearly visible

🤍🖤 Both of the twins had really bad acne in their teen years and have deep scars on their shoulders. One of the only ways people can tell them apart (besides voice and mannerisms) is by their scars

🤍🖤 They both also lose some hair in their 30s and 40s. It's genetic, but the hats they wear don't help

🖤 Warden Ingo has slight stretch marks from sudden muscle and fat growth from living in the high lands

Bonus:

🪽 Skyla has moles on her back and stretch marks on her thighs and stomach

[waywardstation]

Emmet Ingo and Elesa do you see my vision

[moothebloo]

Hello Submas community I'm finally making a post! Have a headcanon I thought of this morning.

I know in a world like Pokemon, how characters move or even brawl tends to be understandably overlooked. However I was watching some Cowboy Bebop and the way Spike fights feels a lot like how Emmet would theoretically fight. Lots of fast movement and kicks. Spike often looks like he's dancing while in a fistfight, and I could totally imagine the much more energized twin being like this too.

Spike also uses a lot of tricks while fighting, often ones that rely on making himself look ridiculous/incompetent to throw his targets off guard. Given how peculiar Emmet can be socially, I like to think he'd use that to his advantage.

I'm also just completely in love with the idea of Emmet having both really good perception and sleight-of-hand. He's a subway boss! He's gotta be aware and in control of everything around him for passenger safety!

Meanwhile Ingo, like most of his other aspects, would be Emmets opposite. If he's forced to actually fight someone it would be like fighting a brick wall. Very serious, only moving when he needs to, and being more defensive than offensive. Any hits he does dish out being punches, grabs, or throws. Hand based stuff while his brother likes to kick. You could pretty easily compare him to Jet in that regard I think, the Bebop movie opening being what comes to mind.

Here's a good visual example of what I'm talking about and how they'd be different from each other:

TL;DR

Ingo fights tough and serious while Emmet is fast and clever

I really want to see more sleight-of-hand Emmet content

I'm honestly kinda shocked we haven't had Nimbasa Trio Cowboy Bebop AU yet. Elesa can be Faye and Akari/Dawn as Edward lmao (computer hacking or godly intervention hmmm?)

[critterbitter]

Do you think you'll draw the nimbasa trio catching their first Pokemon that's not their starter on their journey?

Definitely! It’s just a matter of getting there, haha. I am but one vaguely man shaped blob with a hyperfixation. Mortal needs like sleep and hand pains stop me from vomiting every brain idea I have.

I actually got this question multiple times, so to answer! I am not going to be drawing the nimbasa trio getting another pokemon until their late teens unless a brainworm strikes. (So no new pokemon during the current snapshot series haha.)

Why?

From a canon perspective, well:

Most npc trainers you meet on route have 2-4 pokemon, so I’m gonna try to keep within that amount until the trio settles in Nimbasa and have the revenue/space to upkeep a full pokemon team.

From a meta perspective, wellllll:

Another caught pokemon means character development, and I, ah... right now, I just wanna draw a candle, a zebra, and an eel. I love painting. But fitting seven or more characters on a canvas is, er… Make me draw more guys and I’ll melt like a vanniluxe on a summer day.

If people are curious for some pokemon headcannons though (note that this is not canon— pokemon gave me a puddle of information, so I’m taking the shovel to dig an ocean.)

- ingo saw a colony of dwebble collecting rocks while in the desert, and he’s been enamored ever since. He’s been trying to convince a dwebble to join his team for a while. Unfortunately, Ingo’s very excited and dwebble are naturally shy. (It doesn’t help that litwick can get mean when jealous.)

- emmet loves double battles and teams up with a lot of wild pokemon— but he doesn’t click with anybody until much further in the future. Me thinks his expectations are a tad too high from having such a good start with tynamo. He’s worked with multiple growlithes and thinks Helping Hand is the coolest shit ever.

- emmet’s first “caught” pokemon would be archen. More like “lab grown” and “lovingly hatched”, but it’s the thought that counts. Thinking once again about squab archen…

- elesa found her two emolga in the trash. She was going to release them after fostering, but got attached.

For future plans:

(The pokemon the twins live with and are officially part of the team (named at what stage the twins meet them! Note that everybody becomes fully evolved at somepoint.)

Ingo— litwick, dwebble, drillbur, and axew.

Emmet— tynamo, archen(lint roller), joltik, and durant.

They also have pokemon coworkers that don’t live with them, but agree to help in battles for exp and wages— kliklank twins, garbadore, shelmet and karablast, boldore (atlas), and gurdur)

And for our favorite electric gym leader:

Elesa— blitzle, the emolga twins (em and molga), stunfisk, mareep

(She has pokemon coworkers Eelektross (eela), zebrastrika (motorbreak), and Galvulanta (Lanta) who have a similar set up to the twins— the pokemon agree to work with Elesa for exp and wages, but otherwise have their own lives.)

(Fun headcanon: pokemon who are raised by humans tend to keep human nicknames. It’s not always the case, but it’s a common enough trend for research studies.)

[eldritchminmo]

Ingo and Emmet may be the physically stronger of the Nimbasa Trio, but Elesa's the one who isn't afraid to go for the kill if it's a life or death situation. The bastard thought that she was trapped and helpless without Ingo and Emmet to save her. Unfortunately, it mistook her kindness for softness and realized far too late that she wasn't afraid to get her hands dirty.

Elesa would be the final girl in a horror movie, just saying.

also i've been rewatching buffy and i think elesa should be a vampire slayer.

I keep putting off talking about my elesa headcanons, but i just have to say that my version of Elesa uses she/he pronouns. i just think she's neat and can be a little transmasc as a treat.

[love-for-burgundy-blog]

So, here is my take on Ash's relationships with his traveling companions.

Misty: I don't ship them, but I do think that they have a really strong bond!! I actually headcanon that Ash didn't really enjoy Misty's company untill they parted ways, and that's when he started to miss her. It could go the other way around too. Unfortunately, this relationship is faltered by the fact that Misty and Ash clearly didn't like each other in the beginning and said some pretty nasty things to each other. To end on a positive note, pokeshipping is not my favorite, but I think Ash and Misty will always have a strong relationship with each other!!

Brock: I think Brock and Ash have a pretty good relationship, kinda like Brotp except for the fact that I don't ship them romantically. I think Brock was necessary for Ash's growth and I think Ash's company softened Brock up, he became nicer in other words. They are close friends and nothing more or less. Brock is an excellent older brother figure to Ash and he has been with Ash the longest out of his traveling companions so that also earns their relationship points.

Tracey: Yeah, this might be controversial but I think Tracey was the third wheel in Orange Islands. He practically invited himself into the group and Ash and Misty could both be pretty rude to him at times. Tracey and Ash are friends no doubt, but I wouldn't say that they are super close or anything.

May: So I think May and Ash helped each other out a lot but I don't think Ash is the closest to May because if I remember correctly, he was rude to her a lot of the time, they also don't have much in common, Ash is into battling and May likes shopping and contests. So yeah, I obviously don't ship them, Contestshipping is clearly superior!! I think Ash and May are good friends, especially after Ash mellowed out, but I think Ash has a closer connection with some of his other companions.

Max: I am not going to say that these two have a super strong bond or anything but I do think they bonded somewhat over the fact that they aren't into the the girly things that May is lol. Also, Max is a few years younger than Ash so the age gap kinda prevents a close bond from happening. Still, I think Ash and Max are friends regardless and always will be.

Dawn: She and Ash are besties!! There, I said it. I don't ship them since I'm more of a Dawn x Zoey person but I love these two as friends. Who could forget their iconic high-five and these two serve as great protagonists for DP. I love how much these two work off one another, they give sibling energy for real.

Iris: Speaking of sibling energy, Iris is like the twin sister Ash never had!! Iris is also the only female traveling companion that I ship Ash with romantically. I will argue that Iris is one of Ash's closest friends. They also work so well because they are exactly alike in terms of personality. They are both hyper, stubborn, love food, and care for their friends and pokemon deeply. And who could forget that one episode where they went sightseeing in Nimbasa city together. I love the duo of Ash and Iris and I wish people would stop undermining their relationship.

Cilan: So, Cilan tended to act like a father figure to both Ash and Iris. Sometimes, I tend to get the impression that Cilan was like the "Tracey" of the BW Trio, However to a MUCH lesser extent. Since Cilan at least had a lot of nice and heartwarming moments with Ash and Iris both individually and together. It's pretty obvious how much Cilan cares for Ash and Iris since he is always super sweet and patient with them. Ash along with Iris looks up to him for advice and guidance and he also admires Cilan's cooking. The only thing holding Ash and Cilan back from being super close is that Ash and Iris seem closer to each other, both in age and personality. Regardless, Cilan and Ash are still good friends and I think they always will be.

Clemont: If there was a male companion that I would ship Ash with romantically, it would have to be Clemont. Diodeshipping for life!! Ash and Clemont have been spotted touching each other several times, like putting their arms around each other while walking. It's also no surprise that Ash admires Clemonts inventions and Gadgets more than anyone else hence "Science is so amazing!!" Clemont and Ash also have never argued, at least to my knowledge. To conclude, I think Clemont is the closest to Ash out of the male traveling companions, Probably tied with Goh.

Bonnie: Unfortunately unlike her brother, I think Ash and Bonnie have the least amount of connection out of his traveling companions. (Besides maybe Chloe, but I don't count her as a companion and I haven't seen JN) I say this because I don't remember any significant interactions between Ash and Bonnie. But on the bright side, it's not like Bonnie and Ash truly need each other since Bonnie has both her older brother and Serena (who she has a much stronger bond with) to look out for her.

Serena: Alright.... These two are friends and nothing more. Yes, Serena has a crush on Ash, but Ash clearly doesn't feel the same way about her. If these two ever got together, their relationship would probably only last a few years max since they both have entirely separate interests and goals. I would even go and say that Serena and Ash have the least amount in common out of the traveling companions. Ash and Serena did help each other out a lot, but I think at most, they are good friends. Sorry Amourshippers.

So I am not fully done with my binge watch of Sun and Moon, but when I am done, I will make a separate post like this for the SuMo companions.

[winsdayink]

Headcanons on the twins, they get the purple stripe cause I'm on the camp that they're Drayden's nephews and if Drayton gets a stripe now its a family thing, its not usually visible because of the hats tho. Also the bits on the side are sideburns i can not get em to look decent as bangs

Also some AU shenanigans where Team Rocket's in Unova and N is a part of it. I will not elaborate<3 but N should be friends w the Nimbasa trio they'd all get along spectacularly I think

[subwaytostardew]

Subway to Stardew - Passenger Events - Saloon Part 2

This plays after you see the first saloon event (submas having lunch with Elliott!) and visit on a Friday after reaching 3 hearts with Elesa.

Commentary under the read-more!

Did you notice the sprites? No? Great! I finally stopped procrastinating and recolored their spritesheets so now they don't share the same brown outline and match vanilla style a bit more!

Sprite-wise... they're over 80. Emmet's in his 90's.

So many sprites.....

Also... Elesa's back! We have a basic outline for what would happen in Elesa's events, but we haven't written anything for her yet... She has plans though! She's rounding up all the artists for it. Meanwhile, submas are still struggling with passenger relations.

Elesa's storyline is going to be fun to plan out but one of her B plots is making sure Ingo and Emmet take their breaks!

Elesa's fun. She's a bit awkward herself (girl can NOT keep a secret for the life of her) but she's doing things. Nimbasa trio share a braincell and they pass it around throughout this event.

We wanted to show a little more insight into their life in the valley and how others feel about them. This time, you're catching them on a bad day. One of my favorite things about Stardew is how everyone is very much flawed in some way and everyone is an unreliable narrator. I love how it just presents life in a run-down town as is and it's up to you to interpret whatever glimpses you get.

Trying to merge the two different media's in terms of tone and seriousness is a bit complex. Pokémon - as a franchise - is at the end of a the day; kid friendly. Stardew Valley, while may look happy go lucky and cute touches upon some really heavy topics.

We are basically skirting the lines here and there with the themes and even trying to make it in character for the Pokémon characters as well.

Taking a kid friendly characters and just trying to touch upon tough subjects while also trying not to seem OOC or off - is tough. So creative liberties it is.

Not everyone gets along in Stardew. I tried to emphasize that in Sebastian's distaste for submas. He would hate being their neighbor. He's cranky because he can't sleep in until 10:00 AM anymore because they're already at work before it turns 6:00 in the morning. Extreme opposites with their problems.

Sebastian and Submas DO NOT get along... They may tolerate each other at the end of the story but they just do not mix well.

I also think that Sebastian would just project a lot of his personal problems onto them... He already does that with Maru. He's not the best taking out his frustrations in the right direction. Haven't finished Maru's passenger event yet (another battle event...) but submas would be decently close with her since she has an interest in Pokemon and Sebastian would take that as "siding" against him. They are also decently aquainted with Demetrius which isn't the best for Sebastian's dad issues. He's not fond of the invasive species they brought in but they do appreciate infodumping to each other about mechanics and such.

Oh, Demetrius... I'm going to have fun with world building info-dumps with him. Ya'll like world building? Well, talk to the villagers, they may have a glimpse into things.

I do headcanon Demetrius (pretty much painfully canon...), Maru, and Sebastian as autistic themselves just like the Nimbasa trio. Unfortunately, that does not necessarily mean that they'll always have solidarity. For one, Sebastian's sensitivity to loud noises puts him at odds with Ingo. Submas fare better with the more infodumpy types.

Sibling relations are a sore subject for all of them so submas are horrified at even the thought of splitting tracks and hating each other because they have codependency issues; Sebastian has an inferiority complex and hates how they make him feel like even more of a failure because he doesn't like Maru. Neither parties are exactly healthy, but you can pick between who you're going for! (I was curious as to what the deal was with Sebastian so he was the first bachelor I married... I think you can tell that I divorced him.)

Sebastian has his issues... He was also going to be my first bachelor but uhh, I went with Harvey. I still love Sebastian as a character tho, he is really complex especially family dynamic wise. I do feel bad for him....

He does. I do appreciate how messy his family dynamic is, but I'm a little biased against him since I appreciate Maru and Demetrius more (sorry). I really like how he doesn't handle his issues healthily (I mean... look at Emmet.) and it's interesting to compare him to the other characters.

Like Sam! Sam's a good kid (college age 20 something year old...) and actually really emotionally mature even if he's a bit childish at times. Abigail... isn't quite all there yet but she has a strong sense of what's right and wrong. She's less hesitant than Sam when it comes to things, but Sam serves a bit as damage control here. I headcanon Sam and Abigail to have ADHD so they kind of have an idea about submas being autistic and what that entails, but it's not at the forefront of their mind. It doesn't help that their autism manifests in verrrrry different ways and they don't really know them all that well in the first place. It's a bit awkward between them but they're okay with each other.

We had a bit of fun determining the heart point changes between each route. Personally, I think friendship decreases are hilarious. Also if you don't back up anyone in this situation then... 🤨

(1) Sebastian -

Ingo -100 | Emmet -250 | Sebastian +250 | Sam -5 | Abigail -15

(2) Ingo -

Ingo +40 | Emmet +5 | Sebastian -100 | Sam -20 | Abigail -25

(3) Emmet -

Ingo +25 | Emmet +30 | Sebastian -100 | Sam -5 | Abigail -5

(4) Sam and Abigail -

Ingo +20 | Emmet +5 | Sebastian -40 | Sam +50 | Abigail +50

(5) Nobody -

Ingo -50 | Emmet -200 | Sebastian -200 | Sam -50 | Abigail -50

I don't see friendship decreases as characters getting angry at you per se. It can always just be them feeling awkward and wanting to distance themselves from you for a bit. For example, if you reject Ingo in his 8 heart event, you get knocked down two hearts just so you can get more friendly-but-not-too-friendly dialogue before it stagnates again at 8 hearts.

The "true ending" is Sam and Abigail's route since they're fairly neutral picks. You should stand up for them! Sebastian would agree that him lashing out was wrong, but he just doesn't want to talk to you about it. Why would he? You would just lecture him or something.

Bad ending is not siding with anybody like a coward. Sebastian's being a bit of a bully here (mainly to a grown man a whole head taller than him, but still, his friends got caught in the crossfire) and if you're wishy-washy then that's just odd of you as the town's farmer and supposed protagonist that goes out of their way to befriend everyone. Not a good look.

Sebastian's route is a bit of a jab at how his romance plays out. A few people have mentioned Emmet and Sebastian being friends with each other under the reasoning that they're lonely autists (but mostly just being favorites, which I get) buuuut... Not sure why you would go for Sebastian when submas is right there. Pick one or the other. They're enemies here. I can't quite see them getting along past that surface-level analysis. Smoking alone is a hard No. from Emmet since birds are super sensitive to airborne toxins (so much so, you can't even have non-stick pans around them!) and he's protective over his defeatist of an Archeops.

Ingo's route is more for fun than anything. If you really want Ingo, you do get the most points with him for mentioning him, but he's confused as to why you're trying to win him over now of all times. He's concerned about Emmet first and foremost!

Emmet has trust issues so even the slightest red flag puts a quite a bit of distance between you. He has low point increases because it's hard to win his trust. In this situation, a point increase mostly just means you didn't do anything wrong. If you side with him, that's what you're supposed to do since he's the side against Sebastian. He may be getting picked on, but he's a bit of an instigator himself. His own route aside, Ingo would be most pleased to see you speak up for his brother. Ingo's route is only has the highest point increases for him because it's well, his.

As for the bar fight... It was a bit difficult to figure out how to make it play out believably and interestingly despite it being three New Yorkers against some grocery store owner. Ingo is more focused on defense, de-escalation, and protecting his passengers (in this case, the college kids). He can take a hit and doesn't want to resort to making any attacks unless absolutely necessary, so he was blocking for the most part. Had Ingo not been the designated grocery shopper, Pierre and Emmet probably would have already killed each other. Emmet doesn't have the patience to deal with Pierre. He thinks Reshiram will smite him for upcharging them and will take it upon himself to deliver the justice of truth. Emmet's swinging at Pierre. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the best defense nor balance when he's kicking and punching. Pierre's too drunk to talk about it, but even sober he suspects that submas are working with Joja because as far as he knows, he saw Morris walk away from the Railroad when they first arrived.

Ah yes. Joja stuff. *Realigns stacks of papers* Lets touch upon Joja here for a moment and Pierre's view of things. When Submas first came around. Pierre was already suspicious of them - more confused if anything - why are two major city boys who also- mind you- come from a foreign region and bring along Pokémon. Take interest in a small town? With an abandon railroad? Right off the bat he does not have a great view; he is worried about his store, his income, and family and this is stemmed all due to Joja Mart.

Now Pierre spots Morris heading towards the railroad - of course Pierre does not know what the interactions between Submas and Morris are. In his mind it's Submas making a deal to work with them or is already with them! Pierre already hates Morris as it is.

That is why he is so passive aggressive to Ingo and Emmet. Just this time around - Pierre is drunk... and Abigail's friend is being "annoyed" by them.

Well... outright agressive in this event haha. I don't quite remember how the idea was finalized, but we decided that they would get into a barfight when doing another "showing passenger relations at the Saloon" event.

As for Joja itself. I most definitely headcannon them in this whole crossover universe as the typical "bad guy" Pokémon team. However they have already won/succeeded (Pokémon are no longer in The Ferngill Republic....) However things are now being shaken up and changing.

I could go on and on about Joja and how I view them... but I think that will be a separate post (if people want to know)

The fight was a pain to debug. For one, Pierre kept running off into the void like a coward. Ingo's lines about staying behind the yellow line were made in the debugging phase because I got fed up with him for doing that.

Worse yet. 1.6 broke the Pokemon animations so now I have to go back into every event and redo everything (RIP green bean X-Scissor). The old method I was using no longer worked; before, I was using the addObject command. Now they show up as error signs because the sprites that were previously on the sheet called from were removed as they are not valid objects.

I ended up having to figure out the temporarySprites command to replace the "using a Pokeball" animation. There are no instances of it being used in vanilla. Nobody seemed to figure it out either, so I had to make a mini-event just to test its usage and figure it out.

I eventually did. Thanks to the help of my emotional support Emmet.

Ah yes... 1.6 has broken some events. Small things. (events are still playable) But we will definitely be revisiting some events to improve or make better. Or to just fix.

I have so much backtracking to do 😭😭😭😭😭 Oh well... I thought events were safe to work on since barely anything about them changed in 1.6... I was wrong.

The ending had quite a bit of revising for concision and tone. It was much more lighthearted in Kade's drafts, but I figured that Emmet is low on steam and probably would have gone nonverbal after everything. Too much passenger interaction for the day. He just wants to depart back to his home station.

Yeah there was a lot of dialog and exposition cut. (Hmm no wonder why it's only 13 minutes long. lol)

Only 13 minutes... Still a lot considering that most vanilla events are around the 1-3 minute mark...

Poor Emmet.. and Ingo. I won't lie, when first seeing the event I burst out laughing during the fistfight. Just somthing about Ingo suddenly collapsing due to Pierre. BUT THEY'RE OKAY - ISH.

It's a bit comical! I had fun ragdolling them. Emmet was going to be much more swingy in his attacks but I ended up not keeping it in since it just didn't look right when used as an animation frame.

We at least kept one of the rag-doll sprite as a "knock back" from Pierre. Which transitions well with his passed out sprite.

Until next time! Thank you for boarding!

[xero013]

Mark what's important; from kids to adults! Nimbasa Trio!!!

Black and White version!! W/ a bit of color (Did this first but I couldn't help myself by splashing it with color hsjshshssh)

[imaginatorofthings]

You wanted info dumping on the twins and I am assuming you know nothing but what they look like. His is also coming from someone who rotates them constantly but knows very little about them.

Uh, they first appeared in pokemon black and white as the bosses of the subway battles in which the player would board a train of either single or double battles with 3 pokemon set to level 50. The idea is you fight I think 5, maybe more, trainers in a row and at the end you have to take on one of the twins, Ingo the one dressed in black, or Emmet in white. For doubles you VS them both :)

They weren't very popular in the western fandom until Ingo's appearance in Legends Arceus which created some very good lore and angsty fics lol

Elesea is the electric type gym leader for Nimbassa city in black and white which is where the subway is. She's also a model which is cool :) I don't know where the basis of them being a trio originated or if it has its startings in the canon but I love the three of them so who cares ^^

I haven't played bw2 yet but I do know all three of them are in that game too. Ingo and Emmet feature in a few episodes in the anime and in the mobile game Pokemon Masters with some spoken dialogue! :D yippie!

Other than colour, an upside down triangle is often used to represent Ingo and a rightsude up one is for Emmet to mimick their smiles or Ingos lack of one for better words.

Submas is what you'll commonly hear them referred to, BlankShipping is thr ship between the twins, don't make the same mistake I made in not knowing the difference for a while until I got jumpscared by an A03 fic ;w;

That's all I can really think of rn, I hope some of this was new info, if not sorry for wasting your time lol. I do have a list of pretty good submas fics too if you're ever looking for something to read, they really do shine in fics and I love a lot of the popular headcanons regarding them :3

Feel free to send me an ask if you want more info or have any questions I might be able to answer ^^

Oo thank you for the answer!

I didn't know that they weren't super well known until more recently! I always thought the Subway Masters had always been popular.

As far as Arceus, I think that one of the twins are displaced in space and time? Not entirely sure, but if so, that would explain the angst. Feel free to explain some more in a reblog or ask or message or whatever. /lh

And Nimbasa! Oh that's why they're the Nimbasa Trio. It's the city where they live.

And PLEASE! Share the fics and headcanons when you can! I love reading about these.

[dreamingpichu]

Currently I've been seeing a lot of people claim that Elesa is Lacey's mom or that Clay can't be her father. But I have evidence that disproves the former and evidence that proves the latter, as well as evidence of who Lacey's mom could actually be.

For starters, the line that people keep using as evidence that Elesa IS Lacey's mom doesn't even exist. Lacey never says it.

The other piece of evidence people use is that Lacey uses a Plusle and Minun in the first battle you have with her. However I think this is likely just to demonstrate that BBA exclusively does double battles. Plusle and Minun were introduced in gen 3 alongside double battles. Their abilities, Plus and Minus (abilities also being introduced in gen 3) benefit from being on the field together. With Lacey liking cute Pokémon it makes sense that she'd pick them to use occasionally.

Lastly, her home town is Nimbasa. However it's important to note that Nimbasa is only a short road and a bridge away from Driftveil. It's likely that Clay just lives in Nimbasa and goes to Driftveil for work, rather than living in Driftveil. Her living in Nimbasa doesn't automatically make Elesa her mother.

Next, I have evidence for why Clay is ABSOLUTELY Lacey's father. Starting with looking at appearances. Game Freak loves making it obvious when a character is related to other characters. They tend to look very similar. The only thing we know for sure is that Lacey's father is a Unovan gym leader. The male gym leaders in Unova are as follows:

Cilan

Chili

Cress

Burgh

Clay

Brycen

Drayden

Cheren

Marlon

We can already rule out the Striaton trio, as they're way too young to be having any children. We can rule out Drayden as well, as it's pretty obvious that Drayton is meant to be related to him in some way. If Lacey was also related to him, either her or Drayton would have mentioned it. That leaves Burgh, Clay, Brycen, Cheren, and Marlon as possible candidates. Based on appearances, Lacey shares the most similarities with...Clay. I've circled them here:

Finally, we have the obvious. Lacey's ace is Excadrill. The same as Clay.

Now, I believe I know who Lacey's mother may be. Of course I'm not claiming this as canon. Until Gamefreak decides to confirm anything (if they ever do), this is really just a headcanon.

Now, many people believe that Lacey's mother cannot be a gym leader, as Cyrano only mentions her father being a gym leader, not both parents. However, it's likely that he only mentioned her father because he's from Unova, and Lacey's mother is a gym leader from a different region. It's possible he's just not very familiar with other regions and their gym leaders.

Now which region is Lacey's mother from, you ask? Well, none other than our very own Paldea!

I propose that Lacey's mother is...

Tulip!

Now, I wouldn't just make a claim without evidence, so here's my evidence!

Now like I said, I'm not claiming this to be cannon. But the resemblance is VERY striking that I couldn't just ignore the similarities between the two. So, unless Gamefreak decides to reveal Lacey's mom and it isn't Tulip, my headcanon is that Tulip is Lacey's mother.

Sayonara, and goodnight.

[mismefancy]

Here's another funny thought about the Nimbasa Trio headcanons;

In the fandom, there is a fairly known headcanon that Emmet jokingly hates Elesa's terrible puns and jokes. ( With Ingo happily joining the terrible puns express. Emmet has been betrayed. Lol)

And then there is the "train lingo" that he and Ingo uses...

Half of his train lingo are basically train puns, and Emmet uses it constantly in both canon and fanon content.

" I'm sorry to disrupt your train of thought."

" It seems that we are derailing. "

" Victory is just up these tracks and I won't let anyone derail me."

And many more..

So in conclusion: Emmet is a hypocrite, lol. /joke

[torment-deviser]

1, 2, 3 and 18 for the reborn mc ask?

What was their life like before going to Reborn? (were they a pokemon trainer already? Were they studying to be/working as something else?) Answered here

Why did they go specifically to Reborn for the league? (no league in their region? Interested in Reborn specifically for any reason?)What's their starter and/or ace pokemon?

This is a really good question and it has to do a bit with question 1, which I answered previously. His reason for going to the Reborn league is both personal and practical.

Starting with the practical, which has to do with why he didn't challenge the Unova league. Is his past with gang associated crime in Castelia. Through several circumstances, he got into what would be considered witness protection program after leaving the gang he was part of. (Basically, he snitched, though the situation was a bit more complex than that). As such, participating in the Unova league would inevitably end up with him having to return to Castelia at some point which he decided: "no thanks".

Now, why Reborn instead of any other league? Well for one I hc that Reborn is in the same landmass as Unova (And Orre). So it was preactical to go to Nimbasa and take a train from there. The second has to do with his mother.

See, in this AU his mother Livinia Amsel was a member of the cult of Arceus with both Solaris and Elias. In fact in this AU she was expected to be part of a Trio with them in terms of managing the cult, kinda like Elias her family served Solaris' but they were focused on record keeping and maintaining the archives of the cult. As such they grew up together.

However, she became disillusioned with where Solaris was taking the cult once they started leaning on the Team Meteor stuff. And so she left and her parents were excommunicated once they started seeing what made their daughter leave.

Anyway, she left to Unova along with other members, some who moved further to sinnoh. Which is where she met Vidar's dad Artemy. So Vidar grew up with stories about reborn and both his and Seth's (Vidar's younger brother) first pokemon were shinies from Reborn that Livinia asked an acquaintance for.

So when Seth dies, and then his mom soon afterwards, well Vidar's dad was in prison so in the end he wanted to learn more about the region his mom loved despite having left decades ago. He thought it as a way to connect with her beyond her death.

3. What's their starter and/or ace pokemon?

His first pokemon was a Reborn shiny Mankey named Hervor , and he bring with him Seth's first pokemon as well a Reborn shiny Fletchling named Hadjet. Both of which I have mentioned and elaborated on before here and here He does acquire a starter (which I differentiate from his first pokemon) which is a non-shiny Froakie named Aegir. I headcanon that since he does have pokemon with him when he arrives usually he wouldn't get a started. But since he was involved in the whole train explosion incident Ame gives one to him as a way to apologize but also cover for the league a bit.

18. Speaking of umbrals, which character(s) were they the happiest to get back? Are there any that they wish didn't come back?

Honestly Vidar was happy to get back most of the characters. Though the standouts would be Ace, because they really bonded before their betrayal of Vidar. Vidar really bonded with them in regards of being in so deep that you're continuing to protect those you care about.

The other would be Radomus and Gossip Gardevoir. He became a bit of a father figure to Vidar, and both him and Gardevoir have really helped him at times. So he was glad to have them back, also for the sake of Noel and Anna.

As for not wanting them back, I dont think any really. Even with fern at that point in the story he has kinda ended in a mutually respectful relationship with him. They're not friends no, but he doesnt wish him that fate either.

I guess the closest would be Terra, but again it's not that he didn't wish her back, it's more of a. "Oh Arceus there goes the peace and quiet" but I wouldnt say he regrets itm