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#Reading KHR in Japanese
cloud0818 · 1 year
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What KHR characters call everyone in Japanese
If KHR characters use the second person, let's see who they call whom and how. For now, let's talk about the 10th generation.
To begin with, the second person is rarely used in Japanese conversation. Japanese can function without a subject or object, so there is no need for the word "you" to be present in a conversation. And many people call the person by their name or attributes when they need to call speaking to. So, if the distance is close but the name is not listed, assume that the most basic way of call for them is used. Or very little.
Then, the following should be noted:
It's just if they have ever called them in canon.
Basically, we can think no special meaning is implied. It was possible that they just happened to need to use second person pronouns to speaking with. Please enjoy it as a reference!
If you need an explanation about second person pronouns in Japanese :)))
Tsuna
He almost always calls someone by their name. But sometimes he uses:
"Omae" (お前/おまえ)
To Reborn, Lambo, Haru, Enemys(including past one), and everyone when he is hyper mode.
"Kimi"(君/きみ)
To Gokudera, Chrome, Kyoko(rarely), Enma
Gokudera
He rather rarely calls people by their name. He calls everyone by nickname. Or
"Omae" (it can be rough sometimes)
To everyone without Tsuna and Reborn (Especially, Yamamoto, Haru, Lambo)
Or he sometimes calls Bianchi "Anta". See immediately below for more details on this. And it is sometimes used at a time when a rebellious child is unsure what to call a parent. When he uses this second person pronoun to her, there is more like this nuance than rude, it feel like clumsy.
Yamamoto
He uses both their name and second person pronouns. However, he uses different the second person between enemies and friends.
"Omae"
To everyone who isn't his enemy. But it's not often used for older than him.
"Anta"(あんた)
This is a corruption of the pronunciation of "Anata". The expression is relatively rough and not polite. It have a little rude nuances, so it isn't used with people who has relationship. But these aren't much of a problem for middle school students to use to people who have distance.
To his enemies (maybe adult one, he uses "Omae" to Ken.)
Ryohei
He uses their name as a second person. But when he uses second person pronouns, it's quite unique.
"Omae "
To everyone
"Kisama" (貴様/きさま)
In today, it is rough expression. In comics, villains sometimes use it. However, he uses it, there is no nuance of looking down on the others. Rather, it feel honest or simple honesty like his old-fashioned Japanese boy style.
To enemies (including light quarrel)
Hibari
He never attempt to call people their name as a second person. It's only Kusakabe and Roll that he does so. If it's absolutely necessary, he calls them by full name.
"Kimi"
To everyone, even animals or human.
"Anata"
To Dino (I thought he uses for adults, but he used "Kimi" for Genkishi or Xanxus.)
Lambo
As you know, he is unique kid. He speaks like to everyone present rather than conversing with any one person. Therefore, the second person is used less often. And when he uses it, he almost always calls the others by their name. Sometimes:
"Omae"
To Reborn, enemies (kid and both adult)
"Anta" (rarely)
To enemies (+10yo adult uses)
Mukuro
He doesn't call people by their names very often basically. Occasionally he calls them by their name, but it uses their full name. And this isn't the case towards to his companions. He sometimes calls his companion their first name.
"Kimi"
To everyone with his companions
"Omae"
To his companions (especially Ken and Flan)
Chrome
She is quiet, using few words so mostly no subject or object. Therefore, there may be rather more opportunities to use second person pronouns than person's name. However, she often calls Ken, Chikusa, and Mukuro by their first names.
"Anata"
To everyone (Especially stranger. And it's regardless of ages.)
In addition, it they call to someone by name, they may be given honorific titles and a variety of suffixes. Which one they choose will give a completely different impression. If I try to combine them into one post, it would be a book :D I will post other character's second person or honorific titles soon, but again, it can't go into detail of all. So if you need more details or specific information, feel free to ask:)))
Thank you for reading!!
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rayshippouuchiha · 1 year
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So Ray you would not believe it but I was contacted by an old fandom buddy who beta'd for me back in the day and she was like "yo remember that KHR fic you had running? The one with Hibari's mom?" And I was like "yeah what about it?" and she was like "so a friend of mine saw a request from someone in some tumblr blog asking people about it" and I was all "word? people still remember that? That was on ff.net way back in the day. Anyhow which blog is it?" and before she even said it I knew, it was rayshippouuchiha cos you were doing Watch Wednesday with KHR.
So here I am after finding the ask. Anon, To Retire in the Waves is my fic. You can see that I was a youngin who thought they knew all about Japanese just because I watched anime by the fact that I thought the Nami in Namimori meant Wave cos of Nami no Kuni in Naruto lolz.
And the anon who contacted me via my old beta pal got something's wrong. Tsuna wasn't illegitimate. Just a neglected older son, again a popular trope those days. Still is tbh. And it had dimension travel and all.
But good news. Your ask motivated me to find the fic in my folders and re-read it and I'm brimming with inspiration. So I'm officially re-writing it. I'll send link here when I'm done with the first chapter. Thank you for reigniting my love for KHR anon!
YES YES YES!! THIS IS FANTASTIC!!! I LOVE THIS FOR ALL OF US AND I CANNOT WAIT TO GET THAT LINK!!!!
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ciaossu-imagines · 19 days
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I also feel you on the KHR reboot, though I can't find it in myself to completely give up hope. You know what I would happily settle for? The manga being put back in print. I live in the USA and I hate that it isn't sold anymore
anywhere. It's near impossible to find. And you can't find anything after the Future Arc. Hell, I'd love to have an official translation of the Hidden Bullet novels and such.
Anyways, I know it's unlikely to happen but I'd still love to see it. Thanks again for your amazing posts. 💕💕
I can definitely get not wanting to completely give up hope! I wish with all my soul a reboot would come along and surprise us all, revitalize the fandom, so I get the want for it, just don't really think it will happen sadly! Oh my god though, do I feel you on that one. Canada here - I have volumes 1-5 and 7-10 collected in earlier days of the fandom before they became quite so impossible to find. I cannot find volume 6 anywhere and even finding any volumes past 10 now? Impossible, unless I want the original Japanese versions and even then, they're used copies and expensive. I'd honestly love to see a rerelease of the whole manga, especially if they'd put out omnibus editions to make it easier to collect and afford! And you are definitely preaching to the choir on the Hidden Bullet novels. I have so many other series where translations of the light novels are easy to find and it should've been like that with KHR. Hell, I bought the School Briefs for BNHA and the BSD light novels right from my Kindle! The Hidden Bullet novels, translated and readily available, I think would have drawn a lot of fans in. The fan translations I've read were all solid, yes, but hard to find and I had to use Google Translate on a couple of them, but the stories alone?? God, some of them were absolutely incredible and they all added a lot of really interesting aspects to the characters! You're not alone in those wishes at all and I'm with you - I doubt it would happen. I'm sure the publishers and such don't think there's enough of a demand, but it would be like 20+ years of Christmases all at once if it ever happened! And aww, thank you for such sweet words and for stopping by to talk with me 😊
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what-the-fuck-khr · 9 months
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sometimes I see the quality of Japanese scans and then the… quality…….. if you could call it that……. of the English scanlations and I think. maybe I Should pay to read all of KHR on Shounen Jump and try and share every chapter bc the scanlations SUCKKKKKKK
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Gonna be honest, it took me a little bit to actually get into it. I didn't really like how it started cuz it felt kinda really slow and silly? But I REALLY love where they went with it.
I also saw Reborn when it aired in Japan. I remember sitting there watching it (it was the Vongola Rings arc that was showing in Japan) and not having any idea what was going on cuz it was all in Japanese with no subs. But I just enjoyed watching it.
Every time I hear a person who started reading or watching khr, the "slow start" is always the main complain lol. And yes, it is totally true.
Yet, after finishing the manga, I also think it is extremely funny how the start of khr feels like a bunch of anime fillers, yet totally canon. You know how often some people wish they had more canon material about the characters being silly together or going on little adventures when it shows how much they care for each other, or even how those bonds came to be so strong... In that sense, khr does an amazing job. When things start to get complicated, the reader is able to understand why Tsuna's friend stick with him, even in the craziest of scenearios.
They are friends! The go to silly competitions and they face whatever Reborn has planned for them on that week and they drag their asses to Tsuna's house to help him with every little predicament. They lunch the things his mom prepare, they do math homework together, theh babysit together.
Half those episodes are Reborn training them and strengthening their bonds, making sure Tsuna has their loyalty and affection. I makes me sick in the head with how much I love it all.
And omg sjdjkfid imagine watching the Vongola Rings arc with absolute no context sjdbdk It is so messy but I love it sjdndn
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yuesya · 10 months
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Heyyyy Im kinda curious if Shiki is gonna have any flashy moves like Satoru has Ao and murasaki
And I’m really curious about Shikis domain expansion, I sort of hc that it’s gonna be called yomi no kuni, the Japanese underworld, but I’m sure anything you come up with is gonna be better
I love your stories, your khr introduced me to si ocs and just plain ocs
Not for a while yet, but. Possibly. Possibly!! If it doesn't end up in the fic somewhere, then probably in an AU snippet someday.
I think I know what I'd like to do for Shiki's domain expansion, but that's a ways off into the future as well haha. I hope people will enjoy it as much as I'm looking forward to writing it!
Thank you for reading, and I'm glad to have introduced you to OC fics!
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kimium · 6 months
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I was tagged by @m34gs in this post HERE. It's a fic writer ask game! I'm so excited to answer this. Let's start!
Tag Game:
Twenty Questions for Fic Writers:
How many works do you have on AO3? I have 256 fics currently posted on AO3.
2. What's your total AO3 word count? My total word count is 2,547,554 words.
3. What fandoms do you write for? I write mostly for: SDR2/Danganronpa, Fire Emblem Awakening/Fates, Katekyo Hitman Reborn!, and Twisted Wonderland. I have some other fandoms (Akudama Drive, Fire Force, D Grayman, Bungou Stray Dogs, and Magi sprinkled in) but they're minor.
4. What are your top five fics by kudos? My top five fics (all SDR2) by kudos are: How Did You Get In Here?, Waking Up in Pieces, Take it All, Your Kindness is a Lie, and Gradients of Colour
5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not? Yes, I respond to comments. I believe if someone took the time to write me a comment the polite thing to do is reply back. Also, I think it builds a fun community on my fics where some people comment regularly on my fics.
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? I think majority of my KHR fics have angsty endings simply because Shouichi is trapped with Byakuran no matter what. Not sure which is the most angsty, so it's up to you.
7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? Honestly, I'm not sure. I usually end my fics on a happy note. I suppose the fic ending that has made ME the happiest is The taste of melon and the weight of a plushie fox.
8. Do you get hate on fic? I've had hate on my fics, yes. One of those fics I had the same person pester me twice. It caused me to feel anxious whenever I saw my email notification on my phone. I deleted the fic. You'll never, ever see the fic again.
9. Do you write smut? Yes, I do. It's all private though. I'm not posting it because the idea of posting makes me uncomfortable.
10. Do you write crossovers? I've written several crossovers with some unhinged choices. I have a Danganronpa/Assassination Classroom series, a Danganronpa/Kingdom Hearts fic, a Danganronpa/Bungou Stray Dogs fics: Night Sky and the sequel Unanswered Questions. There are some collaborated crossovers with the Glorious Bar AU (with M34GS) and our Twisted Wonderland/sort of Saw Franchise AU.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? Not that I know of. I've locked down my fics due to AI scraping though. Just to be safe.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated? Yes, I've had multiple fics translated!
For SDR2: How Do You Get In Here? (Vietnamese), Your Kindness is a Lie (Spanish), The Birthdays (Spanish), Just a Moment (Vietnamese), 1000 Kisses (Spanish), and The taste of melon and weight of a plushie fox (Spanish).
For Akudama Drive: Exhilaration (And the Bottling of It) (I believe Mandarin)
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? I have co-written several fics! First, I've co-written with @someobscurereference! For Fire Emblem Fates we have: Love Finds A Way and our Fates Mafia AU. And, as mentioned already, I'm a co-writer to the Glorious Bar AU and to our Twisted Wonderland Sort of Saw Franchise AU with M34GS.
14. What's your all-time favourite ship? Writing wise? Komahina (SDR2). Reading and in general? Satosugu (JJK).
15. What's a wip you want to finish but probably won't? I have three attempts at a FE Fates Kiznaiver AU that will NEVER be completed and I am sad.
16. What are your writing strengths? Writing scenery. I adore writing scenery and find it easy and fun. I also think I describe food well? M34GS has told me some food I've described in fics sounds like I've eaten it and I haven't.
17. What is your writing weakness? Sometimes I find writing what characters are doing between moments in the scene challenging.
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? In general I don't like doing it because of my comfort level with other languages. I'm fine with Japanese (speak a comfortable level) but characters like Rook from Twisted Wonderland are a challenge.
19. First fandom you wrote for? First fandom I ever wrote for was either Inu Yasha or Shaman King. First fandom I ever POSTED is a tie between DMMD and SDR2.
20. Favourite fic you've written? I can't say. I like all my fics for varying reasons and I dislike picking a "favourite". Sorry! But everyone else can tell me their favourites! I'm always so curious which one of my fics draws people in.
There you have it! My answers! I tag: @someobscurereference, @shreedle, and @a-little-harmed-shinra.
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caliginousarchitect · 2 years
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Vongola 10th generation squad (+Byakuran and Kyoko) based on @bonesetblues​‘s KHR/BNHA crossover curiosity kills the cat (but satisfaction brings it back)
As yet in the fic only Tsunayoshi and Byakuran have actual established cat forms, so I was like,,, WHEEEE Tsuna I did him as a cinnamon classic tabby longhair. Not actually doing him as a Norwegian Forest Cat, but I did base his facial structure on one a bit. (And it is quite funny to envision him going from being one of the smallest of his agemates to having a good kilo on them) Byakuran Longhair, high white spotting over lilac (with a carried point gene because even carried it can affect the eyes sometimes). Also wings. He came out kinda Eh sadly, I think Hayato Mediumhair blue silver spotted mackerel tabby. Something about him gave me spotted tabby vibes (and hey, kinda a shoutout to Uri), and I got to make his facial markings be a shourout to his glasses. Takeshi Shorthair black solid, very low white spotting. Homozygous for Japanese Bobtail (fun fact, Japanese Bobtail is a Partial Dominance gene- with only one JB gene, the cat has a shorter than normal kinked tail instead). I actually concluded that Bobtail was a very fun idea for Takeshi, because it’d make him a lot harder to read. You can’t really see the emotions the tail would convey if the tail is that short, after all; like how Takeshi generally gives off cheerful vibes all the time, shrouding his actual thoughts. Kyoya Black solid mediumhair, with very oriental-type build and head structure. Lambo Did him as a kitten because, well. him young. Gave him Laperm-type curled fur, since Lambo has fairly curly hair (he’d be medium or longhair, but, well, kittenfluff) and curled ears (to reference his lightning horns). Black solid with medium white spotting forming patches to reference his general cow theming. Chrome Blue solid shorthair (pale/light blue). Gave her some white hairs to indicate scars because,,, how, exactly, did she end up losing an eye and internal organs and not have scars? (even if the accident didn’t leave any somehow, surely there were medical proceedures at some point that would have?) Mukuro Blue solid mediumhair (dark blue). You know, I didn’t realise his other eye was blue until right now? (Although I’m a manga reader so) Also his Eye of Reincarnation is drawn in its third path, Path of Beasts, because I Thought It Was Funny. Ryohei Shorthair blue silver classic tabby with extreme ticking and rufousing, and a little white spotting. I actually have other incarnations of Ryohei. Still a bit iffy on how our attempt at his markings/colouration came out here. (alternate version that can’t be put here because of image limit is a red tabby with very high white spotting, with his red patches being in more unusual spots than you’d usually have, and slightly higher rufousing than Kyoko)
Kyoko Longhair red classic tabby with extreme ticking and less extreme rufousing than her brother, and low white spotting on her nose. (have an alternate version is the same but just, classic tabby instead of ticked classic tabby, but again, don’t have the image allowance to put that in this post) Other characters who we are considering doing: Xanxus- gives me real strong longhair/ medium-high rufousing / black classic tabby vibes. Probably built like a maine coon. Big beefy boy. Squalo- It’d be kinda funny to have him be a shorthair? Just because imagining how he’d flip out given the reason he has longhair is mildly amusing. Blue silver broken mackerel tabby to go for shark gill/scale vibes. Maybe some white spotting? Reborn- author of the fic thinking melanistic serval, me over here going “would a black savanna cat or a very small black cat be funnier?” Like, a savanna cat is 100% going to cause chaos, they’re leggy and they’re a hybrid breed that’s still using the rather unfortunate wild ancestors (unlike Bengals which are now a... what’s it called, a fixed breed? and no longer use their progenitor species) so the non-domestic genes are still very much there. A savanna is tall enough to open your doors easily. But on the other hand, having a tiny black thing doing all the same things despite the size IS very funny to think about. Expected vs unexpected chaos, I guess? those are the only other ones that really wandered through my mind while I was doing these, but maybe others will in time
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ask6mukuro9 · 1 year
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his curly little head. i wanna muss his hair
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they rly loose me with shit like this. how do they know this. shimons intel network is google
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normal way to introduce your subordinate to people
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SO UNSERIOUS
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...........................kay
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hes so shy
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.................... cute..............
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idk what you what me to say here. theyre fascinated by each other. virgin bf and alien gf
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? i thought she could maintain her own organs? dont diminish girls powers when its convenient 
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HIS 15 YEAR OLD ASS IS NOT FLYING THIS HELICOPTER!!!!!!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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*reading khr as a romance* What Did He Mean By This
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hibird..........
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JUST SAY HE WANTED TO DRAW HIM IN GLASSES
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this Wheres Waldo sucks
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JUST CHILL FOR FIVE MINUTES JESUS
............in know its just because of my very specific interest in historical fashion but.... every time i see primos family i get pissed off.. they would not be dressed like that........... a safe assumption for the primos time is maybe late 1400~ early 1500s 
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things like this are more inline with what they would wear.... not freakin t shirts and tuxedos............. (i cant say anything in regards to primos rain and sun (dont remember their names. whatever) because im not familiar with japanese historical fashion and religious garb)
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saotome-michi · 1 year
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Hey so I know you don't talk about yoi anymore, so feel free to ignore this ask. But I just find it interesting looking back years later, how everything you predicted came true? The series ended the way you said it would and sure enough there has been a rise in series like yoi since then, with large male casts and "romance" between them, but not really a rise in lgbt content
I'll have to take your word for it anon, since I've watched little to no anime in recent years (I just read manga). I mean Banana Fish was a blatant attempt by MAPPA to duplicate the yoi effect, but otherwise I'm not sure what else... I suppose Housekishou Richard-shi no Nazo Kantei... and maybe Fugoh Keiji, Idolish, Tsurune (tho that's more Free), and SK8?? (disclaimer that I have not watched any of these and am just going off what I've heard about them)
Keep in mind though that such shows were already on the rise because of the growth of the BL industry and the rise of female fans for shounen shows like Prince of Tennis, KHR, and Kuroko no Basket (and more recently, Haikyuu, Demon Slayer, and JJK). So yoi might've given studios a further push forward but they were already heading there.
On the plus side, there has actually been an increase in lgbt representation in Japanese media, but more so in tv dramas and manga. And that's due to a combination of past tv dramas pushing the envelope and activism. But anyway, we love to see it.
So yeah, I'm honestly not sure how right I ended up being lol (except the ending. the ending, I did predict correctly)
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cloud0818 · 1 year
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About honorific titles and the suffixes add to name in Japanese. With KHR!
In Japan, honorific titles or suffixes add to names when conversing with a person whom you have just met. It isn't used depending on the person's age or personality, but it may give the impression of rudeness or aggression. It's rarely lack, between adults and never lack in a business situation.
I must speak stereotypically because the era in which KHR was serialized is different from today, but the actual trend today are not much different either.
さん(San)
This is a very useful and most common honorific title. It can be used for all genders and ages, or for formal situation and everyday life without any problems. Basically, it's an expression of distance including positive means. This can be used any person like juniors, classmates, or business partners.
For example, Tsuna feels Dino is friendly, but calls him as "Dino-san". This is use of "San" to older people than him. Adding "San" to older people than me is a common practice that has almost become a formality.
Or when he met Chrome a second time, he confused "Chrome-san? Dokuro-San...? What should I call you?". This is "San" for someone you have never met before or for someone has distance. In most cases, "San" is add to last name, but "Chrome Dokuro" is not a Japanese name, it made Tsuna more confused.
様/さま(Sama)
This is a more polite honorific title than "San". It is used for formal business partners and customers, not for friends nor for bosses or people you have never met before. The original word has the meaning of respect and is sometimes used for call their name people who are refer to "master" or "lord" in English. It's rarely used in a personal relationship in reality.
Chikusa and Chrome calls "Mukuro-sama", Levi had called "Xanxus-sama" , and Kikyo calls "Byakuran-sama". These are typical uses of "Sama", They really respect their boss.
The following two have no meaning of respect. It is a suffix added after the name. They may be used formality nuances or as nicknames. Both are used for children mostly, but sometimes to adults up to about age 30. Children calls a each other uses these suffx they have just met as it also formally. It is possible that it will become a nickname and continue to call with these. Or it may also be used by parents against their children.
くん(Kun)
Traditionally, it uses for boy mostly. It's used more often from women to men than from men to men. And this has also a little quiet nuances, so it is not often used for KHR characters, most of whom never quiet. It may also be used by a superior to call a subordinate.
However as you know, Tsuna calls Gokudera "Gokudera-kun" as a friend, not as a subordinate. In his case, he uses it as a friend, like when Tsuna calls CEDEF member Basil "Basil-kun".
ちゃん(Chan)
Traditionally, it uses for girl mostly. This use a common expression between women. It is rarely used formally with men, but is sometimes used as a nickname all gender.
So, it's not strange for Byakuran calls to his adult best friend as "Syo-chan". This is a common way to call a man add "Chan" as a nickname.
Or Kyoko and Haru call each other "Kyoko-chan" "Haru-chan". They are very close, but have been calling each other this ever since they met. This is another good example of "chan" being established as a nickname. The suffix may be lost by getting to close, but it depends on their personalities.
KHR Japanese characters often uses honorific titles or suffix, but Italian characters doesn't use it. It's not surprising considering the culture, but interesting. Yes, Dino called Iemitsu "Iemistu-san" once. Why does he still have no plans to build a house in Japan?
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Idiots misunderstanding words
You know what gets my goat when it comes to various KHR fanfics? The many people who don’t seem to understand something when referring to the main character Tsuna. Specifically his title of “Dame-Tsuna”. Many times now I’ve seen authors refer to Tsuna as being “a dame”, but the thing with that is that it Doesn’t Make Sense grammatically if you’re referring to him properly or with the proper translation. Some people don’t seem to understand that the Japanese word “dame” - pronounced daw-may, not like the english slang word “daym” to which means “a girl or woman” - translates to “useless” or “no-good”. So to read a story that have sentences like “He’s a dame” or “Yes, a complete dame” makes me mad and annoyed because the author seems to be stupidly writing “He’s a no-good/useless” or “Yes, a complete no-good/useless” which makes no sense to those of us who translate that stuff as we read! He is “Dame/No-Good”, not a “Dame/No-Good” (to which one can also argue that it implies/makes it seem that he’s just one of many who’re “Dame/No-Good”) and to write otherwise is frustrating to read because my brain is telling me the author is an idiot who doesn’t know how to write proper sentence structure.
TL;DR Whenever referring to Tsuna’s title or the use of the Japanese word of “dame” in KHR fanfic, please remember that it means “No-good/Useless” and structure your sentences accordingly. You look like an idiot to anyone who knows that you don’t understand the concept of Tsuna’s Protagonist-Vice/Flaw or how to correctly show its usage in your story.
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pwnyta · 2 years
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JUST got to the Kokuyo Arc in KHR, I swear, it feels like it happened way sooner in the story in my memories but it HAS been years since I read KHR so I guess that's fair
One question tho: Why do Mukuro, Chikusa, and Ken, all have Japanese names? Like, they've been with the Estraneo Famiglia since childhood/birth possibly? Even on Mukuro's wiki page it says his nationality is Italian, so... why the Japanese names? Even in the crew, M.M. is French, Lancia is Italian, and I guess Birds and the weird twins are also Italian (I don't care about them they weren't important.)
Also, theory, but I firmly believe that Hibari's parents (or at least one of them) HAVE to have yakuza connections. I feel that's one of the only ways to explain the reason he's Like That. There's never any explanations for anything, but this is a headcanon I will firmly believe.
Come to think of it I dont have a good grasp of the time things happen in KHR either LMAO.
Dunno. Possibly a Japanese parent that lived in Italy perhaps? But yeah considering the other characters youd think theyd have Italian names... or at least one of them?
LMAO Id believe it. Hibari is a menace to society. Also his boys all have that greaser hairstyle typical of gangsters in Japanese media Ive seen so I mean...
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Here you go
https://sites.google.com/view/10th-vongola-translates/projects/secret-bullet-novels/1-mukuro-illusion/1-bucking-horse-stampede?authuser=0#h.e32c1knxbl4b
Like most of KHR there is no official English translation but the translation here is accurate it’s a pretty short with only 5 chapters
Thank you 💖💖💖💖💖
Also, if anything I can just brush up my Japanese language studies and put my degree to good use.
I should be able to read it quickly enough given that my spoons don't abandon me 🤞🏻
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lesbianakaashi · 3 years
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The Forgotten Shounen: Katekyo Hitman Reborn
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This is not a “Why you should watch/read khr” or anything like that. This is just me going into the deep dive and throwing my findings at you. I’m making this because khr used to be my favourite series when I was 15 (I had plushees, posters, tradingcards, the art book etc) and now as an adult I constantly find myself baffled at how unknow it seems to be.
1. Okay first what is khr?
Katekyo Hitman Reborn! or just Reborn! is a series by Akira Amano which was published in Weekly Shounen Jump from 2004 to 2012 (with 42 volumes) and got an anime adaption which run from 2006 to 2010 on Tv Tokyo (with 202 episodes and one OVA).
2. What’s it about?
Khr is a parody of the italian mafia and plays in a world where the mafia is heavily influencial. The protagonist is the japanese middle schooler Sawada Tsunayoshi who is known as “No good Tsuna” because of his failing grades, general weak and cowardly personality and weak physics.
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He becomes aware of the mafia world when a 2 year old baby called Reborn arrives at his house claiming to be the greatest hitman and declaring himself his home tutor. Reborn was send by the 9th head of the Vongola famiglia who is ready to retire and looking for a new heir. Which of course, is supposed to be Tsuna and now it's Reborns job to shape him into a worthy sucessor.
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Tsuna rejects the violence of the mafia world and refuses the position as the 10th. Thanks to Reborn and his general craziness Tsuna meets different people and starts to make real friendships. Reborn wants 6 of those friends to be Tsuna's future guardians, basically a group of people which will be closest to him in the vongola famiglia. Tsuna might have no interest in those positions but the friendships he builds with them become really precious to him.
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Reborns arrivial also brings in the enemies of the Vongola family which leads to Tsuna being forced to engage in battles. Generally Tsuna openly avoids fights and prefers to run away but will put himself in danger for his friends' sake or because of something Reborn did.
Through out the series Tsuna matures and gains strenght but he never becomes a power fantasy. He's just a guy with many flaws who grows through the human connections he makes.
Personally I think the relationship between Reborn and Tsuna is one of the best student teacher reltaionships in all of manga only topped by Mob and Reigen from Mob Psycho 100. Especially the last arc really underlines their unique relationship to me.
Furthermore, khr offers a new and unique battle system: The flames. I'm not gonna go into to too much detail but the general idea is that one fights with their dying will flame which basically turns off your the savety switch so you can fight with everything you have. The flames are seperated into different categories such as: sky, storm, mist, rain, sun, lightning and cloud and have different attributes asigned to each one. Tsuna's use of the sky flame and his transformation when using it is still one of my favourite shounen transformations to this day.
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3. What happened?
The series did really well and then not so well over the course of its serialisation. After the manga got an anime adaption it increased in populairty and video games, light novels, and other products such as CDs were created based on the series. Reborn is one of the best selling series of Weekly Shōnen Jump and has sold around 30 Million volumes overall. It was and still is very popular in Japan but rather unknown in the west.
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According to the article "The Rise and Fall of Weekly Shonen Jump: A Look at the Circulation of Weekly Jump" khr was the 10th bestselling series in Weekly Shōnen Jump, with a total of 7 million copies sold in 2007.
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This number increasing to 15 milion in 2008. Which placed khr into the 4th best selling series of 2008 in Japan.
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Between 2008 and 2010 those sales declined but still kept strong with khr as the 6th top selling manga in 2009, 8th best selling in 2010 and then 24th best selling in 2012.
In November 2014, readers of the Da Vinci magazine voted khr number 17 on a list of Weekly Shōnen Jump's greatest manga series of all time.
After the anime came to an apprupt stop in 2010 for unknown reasons the manga sells took a visible hit. (Apparently the studio wanted to put the anime on halt because they were busy with other projects and give Akira Amano time to develop her story but I couldn't find any source for this claim) Furthermore, the rushed last chapters of the manga in 2012 declined the popularity of the series even more. There's no offical statement as to why the manga was ended in such a way but it's reasonable to assume that Jump either cut it considering the decreasing sales or Akira Amano choose to end it for personal reasons.
Nontheless, Tsuna not being included in Jump Force (a fighting game where you can play as different characters from Jump) in 2019 even tho he made it in earlier Jump Stars games also underlines the decreased interest in the series.
Rumors on a reboot or anime adaption of the last two arcs surface from time to time but are genereally unlikely. Artland the studio which made khr has gone bankrupt around 2015-2016. It might be taken on by another studio but rather uncommen especially with such an old series.
4. Art style
The khr anime ended over 10 years ago and the old art style might not be appealing to newer audiences.
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Especailly because the anime adaption follows Akira Amanos old art style which heavily developed within the years. Here a picture comparing characters in the new art style:
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A modern anime adaption in the new art style would be aesthetically pleasing. It would probably look similiar to Psycho Pass since Akira Amano did the concept art for this series.
(My personal art student hot take is that both art styles are unique and fun. Up to this day Akira Amano still has my favourite art style and even if the amount folds in the characters clothing is a little extreme I love it dearly.)
5. Criticism
The show is not without flaws and even if I greatly enjoy it it wouldn't be right not to adress them.
Daily Life Arc:
A lot of people view the first 20 to 25 episodes as fillers and quickly lose intererst in the series. This is due to the fact that Akira Amano inteded the series to be a gag manga and focuses the first chapters on world building, character introduction and comical narratives. It's rumored that the decision to develop the story into a battle shounen was made because the sales weren't doing well enough at first. So the first chapters/episodes may seem titidious but are necessary for the story and the development of the characters. The tonal shift from a more gintama like gag manga to a darker battle focused story can also be offputting to some viewers.
Either way a lot of people blame this arc when discussing why khr never got an english dub or didn't end up on Toonami. I've also read that the manga never finished serializing in the north america. However, it finished in other western languages like german and spanish.
Censoring:
The anime censors A LOT. From Gokudera's smoking habit, Yamamoto's whole character arc which deals with heavy themes such as depression and suicidal thoughts. The general bloodiness of the manga was censored and sometimes whole chapters and characters were left out even if those were important to the devolopment of others.
Filler episodes:
Out of the 202 episodes the anime has around 29 filler episodes which makes roughly 14 %.
Sexism:
Even if Reborn was written by a woman most female characters are rather flat and their storylines often tied to a male character in one way or another.
Genereal things:
Khr, like many other long running series, is sometimes criticised for a lack of world building or unpopular narrative choices.
6. Hope?
Khr isn't exactly dead. As stated before the series is still very popular in Japan and still gets new merch pretty regulary. There are also petitions floating around for a reboot or a new anime season but those never get a lot of traction. Furthermore #Reborn2期アニメ化 (#Reborn2ndAnimation) used to get some traction on twitter not too long ago. Last year the Anime News Network did a poll on which anime the readers would like to see a rebooot of and khr placed second.
Either way here's a collection of recent khr things I could find.
- In 2018 a new bluray set was released in north america
- The khr stage play reached yet another new season
- A mobile game was released last year
- Currently ongoing anime cafe event called "Concerto di Vongola"
- Last month there was an event with the former VAs and stage play actors where they discussed their favourite khr episodes.
- There has been an increase in blind reacts to the openings on youtube which might bring in a new fan base. The biggest one I could find had around 90k views and was made in 2019. On this note check out the soundtrack. The first openeing Drawing Days by SPLAY still makes me go insane (but I'm biased of course)
There also renewed hope for a new season/reboot because Shaman King, Inuyasha and Bleach got anounced for new seasons after a long hiatus. It's important to keep in mind that the circumstances for those series are differnt tho. For example bleachs new anime is often tied to the immense success of the gatcha game.
7. Conclusion
Khr is a series which used to be a flagship for Weekly Shounen Jump and is deeply beloved by it's fans, especially in Japan. It influenced other shounen series like bnha. It would be nice to see it gaining a bigger fanbase in the west :)
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BnHA Chapter 304: The Council of OFA
Previously on BnHA: Hawks and Best Jeanist were all, “what up Todofam, we are here to apply for the positions of ‘son #4’ and ‘weird uncle’, respectively,” and then proceeded to insert themselves into the family drama without waiting for an answer. Hawks briefed Endeavor on the nation’s current status of “totally fucked”, promised to help him sort that out, and then asked him about OFA. Endeavor was all, “oh do you mean One For All, the mysterious thing that my intern Deku was apparently being targeted for?” and then we cut away, presumably before Endeavor could clarify that it never occurred to him to follow up on that, and Hawks was all “no of course not, why would it occur to anyone other than me to follow up on any of this super weird and ominously important shit.” Anyway so meanwhile Bakugou was all “LET ME SCREAM AT DEKU UNTIL HE WAKES UP” and the other kids were all “NO”, and then the chapter ended with All Might being all “I wonder what the vestige!me is currently chatting with Deku about.”
Today on BnHA: Deku drops in on the Vestiges, who are all “sup Deku, how do you like our fancy chairs.” OFA II and III are all “if you need us we’ll just be standing here silently in the corner pretending to be invisible and sparking endless discourse with our mere existence.” OFA IV is all “and now I will explain to you in a very convoluted way that you being quirkless was actually a good thing, since it means that you are probably not going to suddenly drop dead at the age of twenty. But also you’re probably going to be the last user of OFA for that very same reason.” Deku is all “that is wild. I’m just gonna stand here and stare at my hand.” Nana is all “so now that that’s settled could you please do me a small favor and kill my grandson for me”, because having just one topic to discourse about this week WASN’T ENOUGH, apparently. Thanks so much Horikoshi.
(ETA: okay so just a note before I start, this week’s RHA translation was a huge mess, so I followed up this chapter by reading a couple of other translations. the main one I’m using for reference is the one by @hanashimas​, whose weekly posts I highly recommend. anyway so you’ll see a couple of ETAs in this post in places where the initial translation was off.)
how many layers of bandages did they wrap this poor kid’s fucking hand in omg
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jesus Deku. are you holding onto a bouquet of flowers under that thing?? or a tennis racket??
omg yes, finally
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is he reading these names off a teleprompter lol. and if so, what has Jeanist ever done to slight you, Deku? “god bless Kacchan and Aizawa-sensei and Todoroki-kun and everyone else in the whole wide world... except for Best Jeanist. fuck that guy.” actually this joke would be funnier if half of tumblr didn’t legit feel that way lol but anyway
OH MY GOD
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I NEED TO HAVE A TALK TOO. ABOUT, OH, EVERYTHING
I got immediate KHR vibes from ALL OF THIS. this is seriously such a Vongola aesthetic. “let’s use the luxuriously cushioned chairs with the seat backs that are ten feet high, and arrange all of the handsome ghost people in a big circle” like come on
that said there are also some slight LoTR vibes as well. “bring forth the ring, Deku”
I like how Six is sitting there with his feet drawn up all casual, but with his arms inexplicably sticking STRAIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF HIM and dangling over his knees like he’s doing some sort of zombie walk
apparently the Fourth wasn’t a big fan of shoes huh
interesting that All Might is the only one who’s still faint/indistinct, and and that Two and Three are fully visible
(ETA: the rest of my speculation about Two and Three has been moved into a separate post, the better to focus on the shit that’s actually happening in this chapter lol.)
and lastly, interesting that all of them are talking now, except for All Might (and I guess the Second and Third as well). to the best of my knowledge Deku hasn’t unlocked the Sixth’s quirk yet, so I guess the quirks don’t really have anything to do with it
oh and it looks like Deku’s mouth is still covered. I guess that’s convenient for the vestiges since we all know it’s hard to stop Deku once he gets going. but on the other hand it’s very inconvenient for people like me who wanted to see some interaction. alas
so First says that OFA’s power has grown a lot in the last four months (i.e. since Deku unlocked Blackwhip), and now the vestiges can communicate with each other as well as Deku
so even when Deku’s not around they can all just chill with each other. this is such a weird thing to me lol. like it’s cool, don’t get me wrong, but it’s also strange as hell to know that you’ve got eight other people hanging out in your head spying on everything you do and having conversations with each other about it. it would be like if Dark Shadow had someone to hang out with other than Tokoyami. good thing you weren’t triplets, Tokoyami
First says that it’s become easier for the vestiges to interact with Deku ever since TomurAFO barged into the OFA Domain back at Jakku. huh
(ETA: apparently this is because AFO forcibly pulled out OFA’s power when he was trying to steal the quirk, so I guess that makes sense.)
okay thank you Banjou for addressing this concern which I initially brought up as a joke, but which was apparently real enough for you to reassure Deku about
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“don’t worry, even though we’re awake and hanging out inside of you at all times, we’re definitely not secretly watching and making fun of every single thing you do” hmmmmm
(ETA: “not that you could do anything about it even if we were, since you’re probably going to be the last OFA holder ever!” I don’t trust anything this asshole says lmao.)
OH SHIT??
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YESSS DEKU now you can hold them accountable for all of their bullshit! because I do not doubt that there will be bullshit lol but let’s see how that goes
oh damn
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well okay then. you didn’t have to stand up and walk over to him and loom all threateningly like that but okay sir
this guy has kind of a Kimimaro vibe to him. remember? that bone-growing guy from Naruto? except I’m pretty sure he had eyebrows. and wasn’t twenty feet tall. speaking of which, that explains the chairs
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why are you wearing only 3/5ths of a shirt
lol what
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someone’s gonna have to explain this to me. is he just redundant or something lol, or is he strangely poetical or what
(ETA: apparently HE’S MAKING A PUN omg. I immediately gained +10 love for him lol. also it flows a lot better in Japanese. this is one of the things Caleb is usually good at, so we’ll see what he does with the wordplay.)
omg the hermit theory is true!!
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“I’M NOT WEIRD, IT’S SOCIETY WHICH IS WEIRD.” lol whatever you say buddy. also love how Banjou tried to give him a big hearty slap on the back but Hermit Boy was not having it lmao
IS HE TRYING TO CAPTURE HIM WITH BLACKWHIP
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AND ACTUALLY, NO, SIR, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE ARE NOT AWARE. SO SPILL!!
?!!?
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okay my first response was LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS, THAT’S THE BIG SECRET!? -- and then it hit me what the significance of “died from old age... AT AGE FORTY” meant. at which point it was like “!!!!!” and then “OH, SHIT”
(ETA: there’s also an Iida joke here somewhere but I’m just too tired to make it.)
oh my god oh my god
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did he somehow get a copy of the coroner’s report or something? like how does he even know that he died from “old age” as opposed to any number of other natural causes? ??
but anyway. so this is the quirk singularity coming into play then I guess. but then how come All Might is still alive and ticking?
(ETA: so this is one example of where this week’s translation is a mess lol. apparently the Fourth explains here that he didn’t know what the fuck he died from until All Might researched it. and it turns out there actually was an autopsy lol so there you go.)
so Fourth says he held OFA for eighteen years, and since he knew he would never be strong enough to defeat AFO on his own he basically just spent all his time punching rocks in the woods and training to power the quirk up
oh shit
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is he implying that his body literally fell apart?? like that’s how he got the scars on his face? -- IS THAT WHAT KEEPS HAPPENING TO TOMURA, THEN. oh shit
DUDE
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so you’re telling me that this quirk actively shortens the lifespan of anyone who uses it?? and my little boy here has had it now for a year already?? fuck me, I have immediately have a TON of thoughts about all this but let me save it until he’s done with his explanation
THANK YOU, DEKU
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right?? how come All Might didn’t die then. even after he got injured. please don’t tell me he actually is dying still and is just being slow about it because I SWEAR TO GOD
what does this mean??
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so what you’re trying to say is you all have NO FUCKING IDEA how long Deku’s gonna be able to hold this quirk before he SUDDENLY DROPS DEAD?! five generations ago this dude was able to hold it for eighteen years, and then four generations later All Might was able to hold it for thirty-odd years or so, and now Deku has it and you all have no clue which way it’s gonna go? actually this makes it sound like it really wasn’t OFA that killed the Fourth at all and you guys are just really bad at forming hypotheses. but since you’re making a big plot point out of it I guess it must be true
and don’t think I didn’t notice the part where you said you didn’t have OFA very long and then “died while fighting”, Firsto. I want to hear more about that. specifically who you passed the quirk onto before your death
and yes, if we are agreeing that OFA was the cause of the Fourth’s death, then the conclusion on this next page is the natural one to draw
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so that’s a bit of a relief then, because Deku is quirkless too. so it means he won’t be able to hold OFA forever (and will probably have to find another quirkless person to pass it on to), but at least he won’t be randomly dying out of the blue next Tuesday or something
oh my god now he’s talking about OFA and AFO and user consciousnesses and all sorts of good theory stuff but it’s so much exposition. you’re really gonna make me read all this lol
wait what. why would All Might being quirkless have anything to do with the presence of his vestige in OFA Outer Space Party Land
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but Deku is also quirkless and he’s clearly visible and chatting with you guys. so what gives. like how much of this is verified fact and how much of it is you guys just shrugging and making stuff up lol
SERIOUSLY, GUYS
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BUT DEKU IS ALSO -- you know what, never mind sob. none of this shit makes any sense but whatever
(ETA: seriously, this all seems like an awful lot of speculation on their part. for Deku’s sake I sure hope they’re right.)
FSSKDJFLSKLKJLKJL ALL MIGHT IS FIFTY-FIVE?!
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lol that’s a full ten years past my closest estimate, wow. but this pretty much confirms his age now at last! or at least confirms it within a couple of years, because we know All Might and Nana met when he was in middle school, and he presumably had the quirk by the time he took the U.A. entrance exam. so yeah. gonna go with fifty-five
so they think that because All Might was quirkless, OFA was better able to adapt to his body and became his true quirk, as opposed to being an extra quirk that stacked on top of the one he already had and overwhelmed him. ties in back to the whole “AFO used to bend people to his will by forcing quirks on them” thing, as well as the “Noumus are all mindless because of the strain of having multiple quirks”
Two and Three are really ruining the serious vibe of this scene here lol
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they look like they’re doing the counting for hide and seek
and is this Deku talking now? I was about to get mad at First for implying that quirkless people are somehow freaks, as opposed to “normal” people jdslk
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so in other words, don’t go giving it to your best friend all casually for shits and giggles, Deku. even if it would make a really cool climax for a movie. well shit. maybe that’s why they were so quick to nope back into Deku’s body afterward
so First says that because quirkless people are becoming rarer and rarer, the fact that All Might just happened to stumble upon Deku is “nothing short of a miracle.” which, yeah, that was definitely a stroke of luck there. being quirkless saved his life. but being quirkless is also part of why he was chosen in the first place, and we’ve always known that much
“in other words, kiddo...”
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looks like there was some hurried clone stamp usage going on here lol. but props to RHA as always for putting this scan out so fast, especially given how exposition-heavy this week’s chapter has been
“anyways, that was the main topic” ARE YOU SERIOUS. there are like ten other topics imma need you all to get to here, people
(ETA: seems like this is a mistranslation; the line should actually read something more along the lines of “and now for the main topic.”)
FFFFFFFFF
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“ENJOY YOUR CLIFFHANGER THIS WEEK.” dskfalkjlkjwlgkjl you really went and dumped this discourse on us yet again. fucking...
(ETA: forgot to mention, but as several people mentioned, this seems to be another mistranslation -- rather than asking Deku to kill Tomura as though it’s doing her a personal favor, Nana is asking “will you be able to do it.” in other words more of an “are you capable of doing it” type of thing. which is a very reasonable question to ask given that Deku is, well, Deku.)
anyways, and the answer is obviously going to be “no” of course. this isn’t going to end any differently than when the previous Avatars all told Aang to kill Ozai. but I guess it means we’re in for a fun conversation next week
so Nana looks pretty grim here though (nothing at all like the person who once taught All Might the importance of saving people with a smile), and I’m wondering if this means she believes that her grandson is already beyond saving. as in killing him would be a mercy, as opposed to him continuing to live with AFO bending his mind and body to his will. except if that is the case, I think she’s underestimating Tomura’s own will. and definitely underestimating Deku’s will to save
and also, just... I’m so fucking sick of AFO screwing the Shimura family over, honestly. this is exactly what he wanted. well fuck you, guy. you don’t get to have what you want. go out there and save Tomura, Deku. for his sake and for Nana’s. give them some hope. do your thing, boy. can’t wait for your big speech all about it next chapter lol
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