#Reddit API controversy

[richdadpoor]

Reddit Is Handing Out Awards to Its Frustrated Moderators

Image: chrisdorney (Shutterstock) A tidal wave of strife plagued Reddit following the popular social media platform’s decision to charge exorbitant fees for access to its API. Now, the company wants to reward the free labor of the moderators it once antagonized. Reddit Knowingly Downvoting Self | Future Tech Reddit is now launching the Mod Helper Program as a way to reward moderators who offer…

[keystonepublishing]

The Saga of Hermitcraft on r/Place (1 April 2022 - 4 April 2022)

On the 1st of April 2022, Reddit unveiled a white blank canvas where every user had the ability to place one colored pixel in every 5 minutes. At its height, about 4 million people participated in one of the biggest internet collaborations ever made. The ripple effects reverberated into news reports as far away as Turkey, and the final canvas represents a snapshot of the multiple communities, events, memes, and what was popular around the world at that time.

This is a documentation of the Hermitcraft mural on r/place 2022.

aka.

Remember what I said about my latest ficbind being a distraction? This is what I wanted to be distracted from.

After Reddit's API fiasco of this year and the subsequent controversial event that was r/place 2023, I decided to save as much documentation about the 2022 event as I could. Luckily, I remember how there are already a series of posts by @riacte who documented the progress of the Hermitcraft mural throughout the whole event, from beginning to end. Her blogposts form the bulk of this book (like, 95%!) and I cannot thank her enough for preserving the happenings of the block men mural.

With that said, I quickly realized that someone who's not a Hermitcraft fan - or me if I'm older - might not get the gist of who's who on the mural. The solution? Make several pages dedicated to just listing who's who on the murals! Because of the sheer number of heads, the mural was divided into several pieces for easier labeling. As a bonus, I also threw in another mural nearby which was connected enough to the Hermitcraft community.

For consistency's sake and preserving focus, I decided to not label the peeps from Dream SMP or the MCC secondary mural. Wrangling Microsoft Word to create an infographic was hard enough, let alone 3! If I inadvertently left out a few bits of extra context from this decision, mea culpa.

When it came to typesetting the entire text block, I decided to make some consistent rules. Titles denoting each day or stage of the mural are on their own pages. New sections are titled using the Bahnschrift font and colored blue, while the first paragraph has their beginning lines look Minecraft-coded and topped with a drop cap (aka. those super-large alphabets).

The names of Hermitcraft and Minecraft players in general are bolded when they first appear in the text. Afterwards, they are bolded if they are contextually important to what's being said.

Extra context would be placed in the footnotes section at the bottom of the page. This is also where I dump some background information that would be invaluable for any readers who aren't Minecraft fans, which is why the SpaceX page looked like... uh, that.

My image policy is to go with the flow; I used as many images from riacte's posts as possible, but I also added-in some of my own if more context is needed. Placing them to look smooth with the text was harder - some are small enough to not cause any problems, others are large enough to fill entire pages without any problems, but a few like the Dream SMP mural (hey there! I managed to put you in!) are too wonky to fit perfectly without leaving no empty spaces.

So in that mural's case, I placed them to the side and let the contextual text flow around it. This principle was also used for the Dota2 / Love Live images and in a few other places throughout the book. The biggest case of this are the few images that are just too wide.

Like this one.

Making double-page spreads is not the easiest thing to do in Microsoft Word, and there are a few r/place images that are too wide to fit perfectly in a single page. Confining them to one page would also mean losing all their details, so making them a double-page spread was necessary.

Didn't make it easy though, especially when there are paragraphs of text and other images that needed to be shuffled around. Mess up the double-page images, and they won't meet in the middle. Mess up the text and other pics? There goes the layout and overall flow!

In the end, making this book took a lot longer than I expected, but I am still grateful to have made this as I have now read through many posts from Tumblr, Reddit, and even Youtube - people expressing joy that they have collectively made something together. I can only hope I have made some justice to them by compiling their work and (even if a small sliver) preserving their testaments.

May this r/place be remembered.

[antimony-medusa]

That's The Thing, It Lingers

“Oh, thank fuck,” someone breathed. The person who’d been picking her lock straightened up, caught sight of the shapeshifter standing inside the entrance, and froze in place. Tumblr tilted her head to the side, looking at her adversary. Reddit looked awful. She was drenched to the skin from the storm that Tumblr had heard beating at the upstairs windows. The bruises and blood on her face implied she’d been in a fight, and that she’d lost. The hero wasn’t even standing properly—the way she moved indicated definite rib damage. The technopath wasn’t normally one for front line fights, and Tumblr hadn’t seen her look this bad before outside of battles that her team had had to flee from. And to add to the mystery, Reddit wasn’t in costume. The Web 2.0 hero was wearing a set of torn street clothes. A Gamestop t-shirt and leggings was her outfit of choice, it looked like. “Uh,” Reddit started, smiling anxiously. “I didn’t think that you were gonna be here.” OR: Reddit turns up, bloody and beaten, at Tumblr's door.

Status: 1/1 chapters, updated 25 December, 4,362 words

Fandom: Internet & Social Media (Anthropomorphic)

Rating: Teen & Up Audiences

Characters: Tumblr (Anthropomorphic), Reddit (Anthropomorphic)

Relationships: Reddit/Tumblr (Anthropomorphic)

Tags: Alternate Universe - Superheroes/Superpowers, First Aid, So I assume there's, Medical Inaccuracies, Kissing Enemies to Lovers, Yuletide 2023, Reddit API Controversy 2023, tumblr porn ban, Also other references but I just wanted to tag those because it made the tags really funny

Hey guys you know how I said I was going to do Yuletide? Well I got a REALLY fun assignement. Enemies to lovers Reddit/Tumblr. I had fun with it.

[aego-weaver]

What is Gender Anyway?

Okay, I'm gonna be an essay blogger now. In this essay, I will talk about my experience with gender. This is gonna be very rambling, with little structure.

Upfront, I want to say that this is only my personal experience. If you agree with me, great; if not, that's fine.

I'm gonna start by saying something controversial and then explain what I mean: I don't understand trans people.

That's not to say I don't support them (because I do support them), but the idea of caring enough about your gender to make that kind of effort is foreign to me. I just don't understand.

To me, gender isn't something you are. It's not a core part of who I am. It doesn't define me. It doesn't really matter.

To put it simply, gender isn't something I am, it's just something I have.

Gender is just a label that, if I tell you, leads you to make assumptions about me; enough of those assumptions are accurate that the label has value for communication, but that's it. If it lacked that value, I would likely just discard it.

I truly don't care what people think about my presentation. In person, I'm obviously a guy, but if someone messed it up, I'd just be confused.

Now, storytime: I was sitting in that mental space for a while. I've sat on the periphery of the LGBTA+ community for a long while, mostly hanging out in aspec spaces, but i would try and keep up with the broader community, even if I didn't quite fit in.

I had an easy enough time finding labels for the rest of my identity: I'm aroace, more specifically aegosexual.

But I didn't really have a good label for my understanding of gender, so it just went unmentioned. I considered the agender label for a while, but it didn't fit. I had a gender, it just didn't matter.

I found the label cassgender by chance. I was reading a wiki, doing some research for a story, when that moment of "oh crap, that me" struck. Next thing I knew, I was looking for a cassgender subreddit (my social media of choice was reddit at the time; I left during the API situation)... and that felt right.

So, that's my story. To me, gender is basically just a sign that I can hold up that says a few things about me. That's it.

I genuinely don't understand having stronger feelings on the matter. For those who do, more power to you, but I personally just don't care.

In summary: What is gender anyway? A miserable pile of ideas! But enough talk, HAVE AT YOU!

[mariacallous]

The open internet once seemed inevitable. Now, as global economic woes mount and interest rates climb, the dream of the 2000s feels like it’s on its last legs. After abruptly blocking access to unregistered users at the end of last month, Elon Musk announced unprecedented caps on the number of tweets—600 for those of us who aren’t paying $8 a month—that users can read per day on Twitter. The move follows the platform’s controversial choice to restrict third-party clients back in January.

This wasn’t a standalone event. Reddit announced in April that it would begin charging third-party developers for API calls this month. The Reddit client Apollo would have to pay more than $20 million a year under new pricing, so it closed down, triggering thousands of subreddits to go dark in protest against Reddit’s new policy. The company went ahead with its plan anyway.

Leaders at both companies have blamed this new restrictiveness on AI companies unfairly benefitting from open access to data. Musk has said that Twitter needs rate limits because AI companies are scraping its data to train large language models. Reddit CEO Steve Huffman has cited similar reasons for the company’s decision to lock down its API ahead of a potential IPO this year.

These statements mark a major shift in the rhetoric and business calculus of Silicon Valley. AI serves as a convenient boogeyman, but it is a distraction from a more fundamental pivot in thinking. Whereas open data and protocols were once seen as the critical cornerstone of successful internet business, technology leaders now see these features as a threat to the continued profitability of their platforms.

It wasn’t always this way. The heady days of Web 2.0 were characterized by a celebration of the web as a channel through which data was abundant and widely available. Making data open through an API or some other means was considered a key way to increase a company’s value. Doing so could also help platforms flourish as developers integrated the data into their own apps, users enriched datasets with their own contributions, and fans shared products widely across the web. The rapid success of sites like Google Maps—which made expensive geospatial data widely available to the public for the first time—heralded an era where companies could profit through free, mass dissemination of information.

“Information Wants To Be Free” became a rallying cry. Publisher Tim O’Reilly would champion the idea that business success in Web 2.0 depended on companies “disagreeing with the consensus” and making data widely accessible rather than keeping it private. Kevin Kelly marveled in WIRED in 2005 that “when a company opens its databases to users … [t]he corporation’s data becomes part of the commons and an invitation to participate. People who take advantage of these capabilities are no longer customers; they’re the company’s developers, vendors, skunk works, and fan base.” Investors also perceived the opportunity to generate vast wealth. Google was “most certainly the standard bearer for Web 2.0,” and its wildly profitable model of monetizing free, open data was deeply influential to a whole generation of entrepreneurs and venture capitalists.

Of course, the ideology of Web 2.0 would not have evolved the way it did were it not for the highly unusual macroeconomic conditions of the 2000s and early 2010s. Thanks to historically low interest rates, spending money on speculative ventures was uniquely possible. Financial institutions had the flexibility on their balance sheets to embrace the idea that the internet reversed the normal laws of commercial gravity: It was possible for a company to give away its most valuable data and still get rich quick. In short, a zero interest-rate policy, or ZIRP, subsidized investor risk-taking on the promise that open data would become the fundamental paradigm of many Google-scale companies, not just a handful.

Web 2.0 ideologies normalized much of what we think of as foundational to the web today. User tagging and sharing features, freely syndicated and embeddable links to content, and an ecosystem of third-party apps all have their roots in the commitments made to build an open web. Indeed, one of the reasons that the recent maneuvers of Musk and Huffman seem so shocking is that we have come to expect data will be widely and freely available, and that platforms will be willing to support people that build on it.

But the marriage between the commercial interests of technology companies and the participatory web has always been one of convenience. The global campaign by central banks to curtail inflation through aggressive interest rate hikes changes the fundamental economics of technology. Rather than facing a landscape of investors willing to buy into a hazy dream of the open web, leaders like Musk and Huffman now confront a world where clear returns need to be seen today if not yesterday.

This presages major changes ahead for the design of the internet and the rights of users. Twitter and Reddit are pioneering an approach to platform management (or mismanagement) that will likely spread elsewhere across the web. It will become increasingly difficult to access content without logging in, verifying an identity, or paying a toll. User data will become less exportable and less shareable, and there will be increasingly fewer expectations that it will be preserved. Third-parties that have relied on the free flow of data online—from app-makers to journalists—will find APIs ever more expensive to access and scraping harder than ever before.

We should not let the open web die a quiet death. No doubt much of the foundational rhetoric of Web 2.0 is cringeworthy in the harsh light of 2023. But it is important to remember that the core project of building a participatory web where data can be shared, improved, critiqued, remixed, and widely disseminated by anyone is still genuinely worthwhile.

The way the global economic landscape is shifting right now creates short-sighted incentives toward closure. In response, the open web ought to be enshrined as a matter of law. New regulations that secure rights around the portability of user data, protect the continued accessibility of crucial APIs to third parties, and clarify the long-ambiguous rules surrounding scraping would all help ensure that the promise of a free, dynamic, competitive internet can be preserved in the coming decade.

For too long, advocates for the open web have implicitly relied on naive beliefs that the network is inherently open, or that web companies would serve as unshakable defenders of their stated values. The opening innings of the post-ZIRP world show how broader economic conditions have actually played the larger role in architecting how the internet looks and feels to this point. Believers in a participatory internet need to reach for stronger tools to mitigate the effects of these deep economic shifts, ensuring that openness can continue to be embedded into the spaces that we inhabit online.

WIRED Opinion publishes articles by outside contributors representing a wide range of viewpoints. Read more opinions here. Submit an op-ed at ideas@wired.com.

[toonabby]

Welp... (#FireDavidZaslav)

I never though of making this, but a few hours ago, Coyote Vs Acme, the most highly anticipated movie to come out the Looney Tunes, has been shelved and would not be releasing at all.

When I heard this I was confused and disappointed: "Why would they cancel this movie?" I thought to myself. "Oh right, TAXES and MONEY!" I was already aware of Zaslav's mistreatment of animation but this made me sad in particular considering that the movie was completed by the time it was cancelled.

All of those animators that have put their sweat and guts into this film for over two years. Gone. By contrast, the universally-reviled Velma got green light for a second season, while 2023's The Flash not only somehow survived cancellation, but also kept Ezra Miller - who had a lot of criminal activity throughout 2022 - as the titular character in spite of the potential legal trouble they'll get for having a convicted criminal in a role of a mainstream film, let alone still continue acting.

As I said in a comment on a YT video, any hope I had with WB and especially Zaslav is pretty much gone. Hell, I would argue that any hope I had with this year is gone. Between the abysmal beginning (the aforementioned Velma, the career-destroying scandals of Justin Roiland and Elliot Gindi, with the latter having only stared voiced acting for five months before the allegations came out, and the widespread, messy but otherwise pointless Hogwarts Legacy drama), the doubling down of Hollywood and especially WB's maltreatment of animation, several formally revered people getting exposed left and right, and tech giants making inane decisions, most notable Elon's takeover of Twitter and Reddit's API Changes, its honestly not a hyperbole or an exaggeration to say I despise this year. Not to an extent of 2020, but still pretty bad, and 2023 sucking was something I've been genuinely dreading when December of last year came.

And speaking of last year, this day marks the unfortunate first anniversary of the controversy DeviantArt got into when they decided to implement AI into their platform known for art made by actual people, NOT machines. Is every Nov. 11 going forward gonna have a company screwing over their audience and employees?

If there's one silver lining to this devastating situation, it's that the producers of said film would be able to watch it on private screenings next week. That, and the potential content leaks of said film.

At this rate, WB is dangerously close to becoming the ActiBliz of animation - a company full of greedy scumbags who take delight in screwing over their audience and their people.

To close this post off, I will no longer be supporting WB and its related content from now on (at least legally). I'll be removing my profile off of HBO Max (or rather Max) and deleting the service on my TV. I'll also remove every video from the Cartoon Network YouTube channel off my watch history even though they had nothing to do with this situation, I just don't like associating myself with a scummy company regardless of how I feel about the products themselves. That obviously doesn't mean I automatically hate anything by WB nor do I want to remove them from my history, I'm just saying is that I don't want to support anything by WB if that means I'm profiting of from the company. I'll also delete/private my fan art commemorating the company's centennial, because as I said before, I'm not respecting a company that treats its own works like disposable tools while giving other works a slap on the wrist in spite of their abysmal quality. Talk about double standards...

TL;DR: WB cancels a film that has already been completed and everyone is restoring to pirating their content, including me.

EDIT: Okay, changed my mind. I'm ONLY going to delete everything from JUST Warner Bros., the company, not the products they own. That doesn't mean I WON'T be deleting anything that celebrates the company though.

EDIT 2: Even though I'm not supporting WB anymore, I'm keeping my 100th anniversary post (at least on this site) for "archival/historical" purposes.

[lancerious]

Twitter is now limiting how many posts people can see per day, Reddit's new API rules just officially came into effect, Discord recently released the controversial change in their naming system, multiple content creators have been getting exposé after exposé in the past several months...

Least Tumblr is still the same as ever :D

[noticiassincensura]

Reddit changes its policies to prevent new moderator protests

Reddit wants to avoid new protests from subreddit moderators and has implemented changes to its policies to make them virtually impossible. The platform confirmed that, from today onwards, those in charge of different communities will need to ask for permission to change their status.

What does this mean? If a public subreddit wants to become private or restricted, or one categorized as Safe for Work (SFW) wants to start allowing Not Safe for Work (NSFW) content, like pornography or nudity, it will need to request authorization from Reddit staff to do so.

According to Reddit on r/modnews, approval will be immediate and automatic for communities with fewer than 5,000 members or those created within the last 30 days. However, in larger and older subreddits, the change will need to be approved by an administrator.

In the latter case, Reddit indicates that approval or rejection will be notified within 24 hours, and that the staff in charge of providing responses will be available throughout the week, 365 days a year.

Reddit takes steps to gain greater control over protests Reddit takes steps to gain greater control over protests The new process for requesting a community type change. Photo: Reddit.

Reddit indicates that the main goal of this new strategy is to prevent community moderators from violating its rules. “Historically, moderators have been able to change the community type at will. However, the ability to instantly change community type settings has been used to harm the platform and violate our rules. We have a responsibility to protect Reddit and ensure its long-term health, and we cannot allow actions that deliberately cause harm,” they stated.

Still, Reddit did not avoid addressing the issue of protests, which they even referred to as “the elephant in the room.” The site’s administrators explained that protests will still be allowed, although the reality is that the new policy will make it very difficult for them to continue under the current format.

In 2023, when Reddit changed the prices of its API, thousands of communities launched a boycott. Some of the most popular ones became private, while others opened the door to pornography to prevent the platform from monetizing them with ads. There was even a resignation by the moderators of the AMAs (Ask Me Anything) with celebrities, one of the site’s most popular uses.

Although Reddit’s leadership tried to downplay the “blackout” of the affected subreddits, the impact of the measure was evident. It’s worth remembering that moderators of several communities were removed, and attempts were made to induce lower-level mods to report their superiors in order to reopen the subreddits.

We’ll have to see what happens now, but everything seems set for a new controversy. “Community type settings have long been used to protest Reddit’s decisions. While we are making this change to ensure users’ expectations for access to a community don’t suddenly change, protests are allowed on Reddit. We want you to tell us when you think Reddit is making decisions that aren’t best for your communities. But if a protest crosses the line and harms redditors and Reddit, we will intervene,” the company emphasized.

[ericvanderburg]

As Reddit CEO Defends Their Controversial API Decision, It Dominates Reddit's Own 'Recaps'

http://i.securitythinkingcap.com/T0XNRq

[the-final-sif]

Currently people are working to cover the canvas in "Fuck Spez" (Spez is the Reddit CEO and blacking out the canvas as a protest, if you really want to participate in r/place I'd recommend joining the protest.

It's so noticeable that it's already started getting media attention, and it prevents Reddit from using this as a "oh look how fun and creative our communities are" sort of thing.

So yeah, take their canvas and make sure that they can't show it off to investors or anything because it's covered in a message telling the CEO to fuck off.

everyone suddenly getting hyped about r/place is. Hm. like, if i told you i wrote gullible on the ceiling, would you look up?

[miyamiwu]

Interesting article by The Guardian

The most interesting aspect of the controversy, though, is the effrontery of Huffman’s attempt to seize the moral high ground. What’s bothering him is that the data on Redditors’ interests and behaviour over the decades that is stored on its servers constitutes gold dust for the web crawlers of the tech giants as they hoover up everything in training their large language models (LLMs). Providing a free API makes that a cost-free exercise for them. “The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Huffman told the New York Times. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”

Note the sleight of mind here. That “corpus of data” is the content posted by millions of Reddit users over the decades. It is a fascinating and valuable record of what they were thinking and obsessing about. Not the tiniest fraction of it was created by Huffman, his fellow executives or shareholders. It can only be seen as belonging to them because of whatever skewed “consent” agreement its credulous users felt obliged to click on before they could use the service. So it’s a bit rich to hear him complaining about LLMs which were – and are – being trained via the largest and most comprehensive exercise in intellectual piracy in the history of mankind. Or, to coin a phrase, it’s just another case of the kettle calling the slag heap black.

[conarcoin]

it's already happening btw, this isn't theoretical

don’t even bother with place it’s such a ploy from Reddit

duh, but also people are obviously gonna mess with it anyways. the best thing i think we can do right now is actually to protest ON r/place because it's going to get a lot of media attention, which looks bad to advertisers and investors

[kellan2255]

Yet Another Summary of What r/196 is and the Current Reddit Drama

Some people in an apartment/dorm created a subreddit (a community on Reddit. Think a tag with its own moderators) for sharing memes called r/195, named after the room number. The only rule was that you had to post before leaving, which turned it into a shitposting subreddit and created the tradition of naming posts “rule”. After 420 weeks, r/195 was abruptly shut down and its users moved to r/196 (196 eventually had its own spin-offs like 197, 198, 19684, 196andahalf, etc).

For a subreddit with theoretically one rule, 196 was actually very moderated. Many rules got added over time like restricting certain controversial types of post to certain days, the ever changing rules about porn, and most importantly strong enforcement against bigotry. That made it one of the few mainstream shitposting subreddits with a largely left-leaning and/or LGBTQ audience.

Recently Reddit announced API changes that effectively end 3rd party apps. That forces users to use their horrible official app, which makes moderation harder, reduces accessibility for disabled people, and a bunch of other things people have written whole essays about. Users only have two ways to put any real pressure on the administrators running the site: negative media coverage (this has required multiple mass shootings by site users to be effective) and, more recently, blackouts.

All content on Reddit is made by users and posted to communities run by users. The main page is simply a collection of popular posts from these communities. A blackout is when the moderators of many large communities coordinate to make them private or block all new posts until a demand is met. This has been tried twice before and succeeded both times: one time to shut down the Covid misinformation subreddit r/nonewnormal, and one time to fire an admin who defended her pedophile father and banned any mention of her name. Also worth noting there’s a *lot* of history with Reddit admins and pedophilia that deserves its own write up.

People are less hopeful this time due to less participation in the blackout and the CEO quadrupling down on the API change. Again, there’s much more to that drama including lying about conversations, recorded phone calls, accidentally revealing he was using copy-pasted responses, and admitting the company wasn’t profitable to try and win an argument. Since it’s clear there will be no change and many communities will be gone forever, there’s an exodus of many of them, including 196, to other platforms like Lemmy, Mastodon, Discord, and Tumblr.

[jcmarchi]

Reddit is reportedly selling data for AI training

New Post has been published on https://thedigitalinsider.com/reddit-is-reportedly-selling-data-for-ai-training/

Reddit is reportedly selling data for AI training

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Reddit has negotiated a content licensing deal to allow its data to be used for training AI models, according to a Bloomberg report.

Just ahead of a potential $5 billion initial public offering (IPO) debut in March, Reddit has reportedly signed a $60 million deal with an undisclosed major AI company. This move could be seen as a last-minute effort to showcase potential revenue streams in the rapidly growing AI industry to prospective investors.

Although Reddit has yet to confirm the deal, the decision could have significant implications. If true, it would mean that Reddit’s vast trove of user-generated content – including posts from popular subreddits, comments from both prominent and obscure users, and discussions on a wide range of topics – could be used to train and enhance existing large language models (LLMs) or provide the foundation for the development of new generative AI systems.

However, this decision by Reddit may not sit well with its user base, as the company has faced increasing opposition from its community regarding its recent business decisions.

Last year, when Reddit announced plans to start charging for access to its application programming interfaces (APIs), thousands of Reddit forums temporarily shut down in protest. Days later, a group of Reddit hackers threatened to release previously stolen site data unless the company reversed the API plan or paid a ransom of $4.5 million.

Reddit has recently made other controversial decisions, such as removing years of private chat logs and messages from users’ accounts. The platform also implemented new automatic moderation features and removed the option for users to turn off personalised advertising, fuelling additional discontent among its users.

This latest reported deal to sell Reddit’s data for AI training could generate even more backlash from users, as the debate over the ethics of using public data, art, and other human-created content to train AI systems continues to intensify across various industries and platforms.

(Photo by Brett Jordan on Unsplash)

See also: Amazon trains 980M parameter LLM with ’emergent abilities’

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Tags: ai, artificial intelligence, large language model, llm, Model, reddit, social media, training

[thrown-away-opinions]

People jacking off to their romanticized fiction about the poor displaced virtuous redditors hobbling onto the hallowed sanctuary of tumblr need to shut the fuck up.

Anyone who used reddit so exclusively that they have no idea where else to go to interact with the rest of the internet is not some downtrodden precious baby. They're probably some of the worst fucking people you'll ever interact with.

Reddit has fucking sucked for ages. This isn't the first controversy where the owners of the site have been openly hostile to the users and it's not the first time they've done some heinous bullshit, and yet all those people stayed. They had every reason and chance to leave. Instead, they waited until they were actively forced out of using the site through some API nonsense and chances are they'll go crawling back in a week anyways.