I know we all talk about how Sami's a terrible person, and as entertaining and dynamic as Lauren is we all know that Tanya can be thoroughly awful (love her development in the later part of the season though!), but Toby also low-key sucks? Like he shit-talks all the other kids and calls them idiots and losers when all they did was try to be supportive of a classmate transitioning. And then, without being asked by Sami or any other member of the band, he starts learning this love song for Sami before even talking to Tanya about his decision to switch bands or what's going on. Like, moving on is fine, whatever, I wouldn't want to date Tanya either, but the way he treats her towards the end of their relationship, without actually breaking up with her, is still shitty.
Duder would never and that's why he and Tanya are endgame change my mind
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Oh! I shared this info with the Sunder City discord but forgot to put it here.
In some interview somewhere, Luke Arnold mentioned that he used to read the Philip Marlowe noir detective novels, and that they informed his love of the genre and his inspiration for the Sunder City novels.
Then someone else, somewhere, mentioned that in 2014 Toby Stephens was cast as Philip Marlowe in a BBC radio adaptation of eight of the novels.
I set out to find those recordings and they were available through archive.org!
They are *beautifully* produced, full cast radio dramas. I listened to the first one the other day and was entranced. Here are the links, both the main page and the zip download, for anyone else who is interested:
https://archive.org/compress/BBCMarlowe/formats=VBR%20MP3&file=/BBCMarlowe.zip
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12 June 2016 | Princess Michael of Kent takes pictures on her mobile phone as Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Peter Phillips, Queen Elizabeth II, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge watch entertainment during "The Patron's Lunch" celebrations for The Queen's 90th birthday on The Mall in London, England. 10,000 guests have gathered on The Mall for a lunch to celebrate The Queen's Patronage of more than 600 charities and organisations. The lunch is part of a weekend of celebrations marking Queen Elizabeth II's 90th birthday and 63 year reign. The Duke of Edinburgh and other members of The Royal Family are also in attendance. During the lunch a carnival parade will travel down The Mall and around St James's Park. (c) Toby Melville - WPA Pool/Getty Images
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Tom Phillips (1937-2022)
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(image: Tom Phillips, photographed in the studio of his south London home by Toby Coulson. © Toby Coulson)
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Hypothetical titles for season twenty of 88
A Fifth Avenue funeral. Season premiere. Part one. The Five Families gather together to say goodbye to two of their own when a minor disaster strikes.
Where’s the corpse? Season premiere. art two. Deucalion and Jacob try to come to terms with their new roles as Kimberly and Thornton look for Lionel’s coffin. Final appearances of Jeff Bridges as Minos Wilkins and Lou Diamond Phillips as Lionel Spratt.
Puttanesca. The team takes a case involving an Italian restaurant that shares property with an Italian brothel.
There are no red lights in a car chase. Drummond gets stalked by an unknown assailant. Unfortunately for him. He’s in the car with David who’s still on probation and doesn’t have a valid drivers license.
Somebody to lean on. It’s Jacob and Deucalion’s first council meeting as the head of their families. Findlay locum’s for an otherwise indisposed Jones and meets Clyde’s abusive mother Noreen (Debra Messing) in the process.
Expert witness. Mary and Joseph Carpenter’s suit against Godfrey begins in earnest. Matters aren’t helped when Jacob’s old law school rival States Attorney Kenny Palmerston (Neve Campbell) makes it even more personal than it already was when she brings in one of Godfrey’s other children to testify against him. Also guest starring Levi Miller as Gabriel Christensen.
The sit in. Findlay and Delaney antagonise a store owner at Mulligan Mall when they decide to keep a group of teenagers from getting kicked out for sitting on a bench.
Motherly wiles. Macy unsuccessfully tries to pull a parent trap on Adam and Lilith.
Dichotomy. Jonah learns the meaning of damned if you do and damned if you don’t when he gets interviewed for a teen magazine.
Vigilante. Findlay and Jacob help a young man with aspirations of being a superhero navigate a lawsuit. Guest starring Caleb McLaughlin as Virgil Jenson
Ill met by moonlight. A message has been sent throughout the world. Only four words. But it is feared by all those who recognise history. It. Will. Happen. Again. Guest starring Maxwell Jenkins and Toby Stephens as Robin Goodfellow.
Violent delights. Midseason finale. Part one. The heirs to two rival car manufacturing companies go missing on Christmas Eve. And the investigation brings Lucia face to face with her former stepson after nearly sixty years. Guest starring Charlie Heaton as Roland Morris, Natalia Dyer as Julia Cowan and Bryan Cranston as Chester Morris.
Violent ends. Midseason premiere. Part two. A week and a half after they go missing. The team finally track down Roland and Julia with tragic results. Meanwhile Lucia passed ches things up with Chester. Guest starring Mariska Hargitay as Coraline “Courtland” Cowan, Jensen Ackles as Mick Morris and Laura Benanti as Maura Morris.
Family unity. The Wilkins’s grieving process is interrupted when Deucalion’s biological mother and his ex stepmother both turn up on the same day. Guest starring Olga Merediz as Fernanda “Fern” Marquez and Sigourney Weaver as Natalia Clifton.
Hypochondria. A visit to Dr Corsica after Theo swallows some postage stamps turns into Die Hard for Oswald when a psychopath holds the hospital hostage.
Like mother like daughter. Palmerston’s daughter represents Roxas Winchesters wife in a lawsuit against Drummond for getting him arrested for Lysander’s paralysis. And she definitely learned at her mother’s knee. Guest starring Kieran Shipka as Hallie Palmerston and Zendaya as Kylie Winchester.
Urquhart. Fern and Natalia have two unwelcome surprises for Deucalion. One. They’re together. Two. Fern is running for mayor of New York City.
Status and tactics. Findlay is called to the stand in the Carpenters lawsuit against Godfrey and wastes no time in giving her honest opinion on the situation
Pheasant crumble. Arlene tries, and fails, to keep Findlay away from Van Buren University when the finance manager comes to review the school’s expenditures.
A spoonful of sugar. Sidney comes to the rescue when Theo refuses to go back to Dr Corsica’s clinic for a tetanus booster after the hostage situation two months ago.
Husband or idol decision. Findlay achieves a personal dream of hers when she’s put on the judges panel for the Mr Fanservice completion. Which soon turns into a personal nightmare when the two finalist’s turn out to be Sidney and Emerson Davenport (recurring guest star Chris Pratt).
Cartography of scars. Jacob enlists Maybelle Archer’s help to unravel Hallie Palmerston’s case against the Wilkins family.
Dots. Season finale. Part one. Lucia recruits Sidney, Jacob, Gideon and Solaris’s help in tracking down both Jesse’s birth certificate and the woman who encouraged Mary to sue Godfrey in the first place. Meanwhile. Findlay has to talk Barnaby and Jonah out of an embarrassing situation of their own devising.
Jesus wept. Season finale. Part two. Jesse finally has enough of his mother’s insanity and demands that she drop the suit under threat of disownment. Final appearance of Winslow Fegley as Barnaby Sullivan and Walker Scobell as Jonah Sullivan.
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