#after watching borgias

[stark-cregan]

after watching the borgias, it really puts into perspective how disappointing (and boring) the costuming for hotd is

which isn’t to say that hotd costumes aren’t nice (because some of them are) but they could certainly be better

[exilecrown]

⋆ ˚｡⋆୨ 1.04 ♡ Lucrezia's Wedding ୧⋆ ˚｡⋆

[rubyrubyrubytuesday]

imagine watching Supernatural on the CW and coming away from it saying you got 'queerbaited' instead of saying you got 'incestbaited'

[bluewaterhigh2005]

the problem with rewatching game of thrones is that every now and then my housemate and i have to pause it to yell about Our Opinions which tend to boil down to: actually, we DO believe in the divine right of kings. and then i get up and submit commentaries for my politics capstone that say basically that, and the tutor replies “nice job :)” and recommends i watch the borgias which. well.

[loving-family-poll]

Ultimate Incest Tournament - Round 2

Propaganda under the cut:

Cersei/Jaime:

they're literally womb-to-tomb lovers. they feel that the rest of the world is beneath them and they're the only ones that matter. the fact that they're twins is fundamental to their attraction to each other

they’re blonde they’re evil they crossdress they’re fucked-up mirrors of one another they serve cunt they’re both bisexual probably and they’re TWINS who FUCK. who said that.

"if I were a woman, I'd be Cersei."

"I'll kill [...] the whole bloody lot of them until you and I are the only people left in this world."

"I am sick of being careful. The Targaryens wed brother to sister, why shouldn't we do the same? Marry me, Cersei. Stand up before the realm and say it's me you want."

"'Do you have a little wife, ser?'" No, I have a sister."

Cesare/Lucrezia:

They're iconic. literally watch the first 15 minutes of the borgias and you will be convinced without a shadow of a doubt to vote for lucrezia/cesare. The intensity of the sexual tension is too much for mere mortals and I had to pause several times while watching in order to collect myself. Before watching the show I still had some deniability about being batshit insane but look at me now... writing propaganda for an incest poll on tumblr....

They literally fuck in the TV show and it's amazing. Insane obsessive love. He kills at least one of her husbands because he can't stand the idea of sharing her with a man who doesn't deserve her.

They're the children of the pope during renaissance era political machinations. Cesare is crazy when it comes to Lucrezia. He killed her ex-husband, he killed their brother who threatened Lucrezia's child, etc. He's also really sweet with her and they're really cute together. Lucrezia starts out young and naïve and thinks the world of her brother. After a horrible marriage and an ill-fated affair she gets more cunning and dangerous like Cesare. After her second husband proves to be a flop she decides the only person who can truly love her is her brother and she is right (they have sex on her wedding night). Overall, they are canon, incredibly in love with each other, and murder people yay!

his edit: https://www.tumblr.com/castratedvader/705351248093806592/all-he-needs-is-a-life-in-her-shape-and-so-he

[teecupangel]

Desmond being bored and deciding to make a retelling of his ancestors for shaun or historians of the assassin's. Except he 'accidentally' makes it public and it goes viral, given that sometimes its Desmond and other times its his ancestors from the bleeding effect

The Assassins desperately needed a win.

After the Great Purge, the Assassins were left imprison in a sinking ship.

William Miles and Gavin Banks tried their best to protect and hide what was left but it was a losing battle.

It made people desperate.

Desperate enough to place their fate in Desmond Miles.

Desmond Miles, the runaway son of William Miles.

Desmond Miles, the descendant to Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad and Ezio Auditore.

The golden boy of the Assassins.

He didn’t really care much about him.

Rebecca Crane was his tech support so he never even met the great Desmond Miles.

He was stuck here, in the basement of a loud club in Berlin, doing his job as one of the contact persons of Erudito.

Most of the time, he just helped Erudito fuck Abstergo’s shit up.

Or try to anyway.

Abstergo does have one of the most impressive security system money can buy.

They were slowly chipping on it though.

Most of Erudito were still trying to throw rocks at the digital bullet proof system Abstergo has while he and the best of Erudito hack into another company who uses the same system to find its weaknesses that they can use against Abstergo.

They were so close to a break through.

And he may have drunk 6 or 7 energy drinks for the last 62 hours so he actually thought he was hallucinating for a moment when he clicked the link one of the Erudito hackers he was working with had spent with the message “dude, isn’t he one of yours? O.o”.

It was a youtube video.

Of Desmond Miles…

In that motherfucking (should certainly be) secret hideout in Italy.

With that motherfucking statue of Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad behind him, completely clear on view.

“So you wanted to know what Ezio was doing while he was looking for Cesare Borgia, right, Shaun? You went out and I know I’ll be back in the Animus by the time you get here so I’m recording this so you can watch it while I’m stuck in the Animus.”

“So… Cesare left Roma after he failed to kill Ezio and got sent to Castel Sant’Angelo.”

He blinked.

Was…

Was Desmond Miles giving a history lesson???

Oh, fuck, he was.

And he just namedropped Machiavelli and Leonardo as Ezio’s companions who were also looking for where Cesare was transferred after he escaped and got captured again in Firenze.

And…

He had started to speak in Italian.

Not only that…

His entire demeanor, even the way he sat had changed.

He had only heard about it.

The Bleeding Effect.

Desmond Miles was bleeding as Ezio Auditore in a fucking video in the internet.

His second phone began to rang and he prayed to every holy and demonic being that it wasn’t William Miles.

No matter what William Miles say, he cannot just scrub that video from the internet.

It was obvious (6 millions views! What the fuck!!!) that someone out there had already downloaded this video and taking it down would just spark more controversy.

He looked at the number and knew exactly who was calling him.

He accepted the call and said immediately, “What the fuck, Crane. Why did Miles upload a video to fucking Youtube?!”

Rebecca groaned and he could hear Lucy Stillman and Shaun Hastings shouting in the background, most probably ripping Desmond Miles a new one.

“The phone he used to record it automatically uploads to Youtube.”

He blinked.

“That is bullshit.”

“It’s true! It’s one of Lucy’s burner phones and she didn’t even change the settings at all! It defaulted to that kind of setting!”

“No phone has an automatic upload to Youtube and you know it.”

“I know but this one does! It’s so weird! It’s like… something weird is going on here!”

“I’d believe it more if you said Miles wanted to publish it as unlisted but fucked up.”

Rebecca groaned once more.

A phone that automatically uploads to Youtube.

That was such bullshit.

.

.

(Rebecca is telling the truth. The phone is a weird one and Lucy can’t even remember where she got it. Almost like… it was always there. Dun dun dun)

[johannesburchard]

that borgias scene where lucrezia is fleeing naples and cesare is hurrying to naples to save her and they meet on the road and lucrezia flies into his arms and he begins raining kisses all over her face while her husband and one of cesare's men look on

and cesare's companion is like, "not everyone can love like that" and that's the moment when lucrezia's husband Realizes

except it's jon and sansa reuniting after, i dunno, the battle to retake winterfell, and they're both just so relieved to see one another alive and well, and it's like littlefinger and dolorous edd watching them practically make out in public

[wulfhalls]

I feel like a little messenger with a bell in medieval times coming to bring you a message. I was talking to my mom about Dune (the book) and I was telling her how so far Lady Jessica is my favorite character just like in the movie even though she feels entirely different (so far)

My moms response; weren’t her and Paul fucking in the film?

It didn’t have really anything to do with what I said but I’m glad to know that so many people noticed the tension between the two of them and not just me.

I love this. this is like when the borgias showrunners were like. ok lets really tone down the incest here ok guys. just normal siblings behaving normally. and then the first scene they shot was lucrezia watching cesare sleep with a woman only for him to chase her around a garden immediately after and tell her that he loves her more than God. while lying on top of her. his mouth three inches from hers. that's what every pauljessica scene feels like. to me

[brother-emperors]

do you have anything on where to start with.... the whole borgia stuff? either that or ascansio, who I am very very curious about. I don't mind reading, especially when I can take notes, but shows/movies work too! if you get to this, thank you sir!

probably Johann Burchard's diary! in particular, I'd start off with this one, which isn't the full text of Burchard's entries, but it's a pretty good introduction to the scene imo (you can decide for yourself after if you want to read the entirety of his entries)

I'd also recommend watching Showtime's Borgias because it's one of my favorite shows and was partially responsible for what eventually spiraled out into an obsession with Ascanio and the Sforza family

if someone has recommendations for the Borgia family, feel free to chime in! I don't tend to venture very far away from the Vatican or Machiavelli when it comes to the Borgia family.

speaking of Ascanio: he's tricky because that guy was everywhere. you'll find him in Machiavelli's writing, you'll find him in music history texts, a lot of work on Josquin des Prez uses Ascanio as an anchor point. there's one biography on him (in italian) and it has a specific focus because if it tried covering everything, it probably would've gone well over a thousand pages. he has his own tag here, you can skip the art and jump to the citations and browse through them to see what looks interesting!

[zvtara-was-never-canon]

what is your second most favorite otp from any series?

AAAAAAHHHHH, DON'T DO THIS TO ME! There are some many pairings I love in so many books, movies, series, soap-operas, etc.

*sighs* Okay, gun to my head, there's three, in no particular order that I absolutely ADORE, have made me cry, and that I legitimately don't understand how anyone could watch these shows and not ship them (spoilers for Friends, How I Met Your Mother and The Borgias, respectively)

Monica and Chandler

Because I was just 4-years-old when Friends final season was aired, I already knew these two were going to be endgame when I watched the show - and it didn't take long for me to see the appeal, even when they were still supposed to be just friends.

They're just so affectionate with each other right from the start, cuddling on the couch, helping each other out - and Chandler just casually says stuff like "If neither of us is married when we're fourty, I'm totally willing to marry and have a kid with you just so you get the family you want" and actively tries PROVE to her he is boyfriend material and they make a game out of it??????? Genius. Perfect. Amazing.

And then it happens, they hook up and right away they're couple goals. Can't keep their hands off each other, are super clingy, all of their friends find them ridiculously adorable, Chandler matures A LOT and Monica is very patient with him because she knows he's used to hiding any emotional turmoil behind a sarcastic joke, and they can joke about and tease each other without either of them being too mean or too sensitive.

Also their conflicts never last more than one or two episodes and they never break up after first getting together, and it was a breath of fresh air coming from the same show that gave us Ross and Rachel.

Barney and Robin

They have INSANE chemistry, Robin was the only woman Barney was truly willing to change for, and Barney was the one guy Robin was with that ever truly liked her for who she was.

They. Deserved. So. Much. Better.

Seriously, I can't get over how unfair their ending was. There's a reason I tell Zutarians to give this show a watch before they complain about how their ship, that was never even canon, was "robbed of it's happy ending."

We see Barney and Robin being teased as potentially having at least a fling someday as early as season 1, they finally hook up in season 3, season 4 is all about him struggling with being in love with her, seasons 5-7 are all about them dating then breaking up while still being very much in love yet never properly reconciliating because life gets in the way, season 8 is them getting engaged and being adorably happy together, the 9th and final season is THE WEEKEND OF THEIR WEDDING and them working through every last issue they still have to make sure they will a long, happy life together as a married couple...

Then the finale goes and says "Actually, they divorced off-screen because their hotel room had no wi-fi. Sorry." WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT? It's really no wonder the network cancelled the planned spin-off right after the finale aired.

Cesare and Lucrezia

Ah yes, a Nichya list of great ships includes a pair of siblings, specifically Older Brother X Young Sister, who would have thought? This time a kind of, sort of historical one! (Seriously, The Borgias is the kind of over-dramatic, historically inaccurate period piece I love wasting my time with, and the aesthetic is incredible).

Even as someone who is very into that kind of dynamic and that knew the show was gonna go there, I was still SHOCKED at how unsubtle is right from the start - especially once I found out the writer didn't want to play up the sexual tension originally.

Somehow, the first time we see these two on screen, Lucrezia is spying on her brother as he has sex and once he notices he playfully chases her around the garden, berating her for spying on him AGAIN, and then when they're on the ground together he just casually admits to loving her more than he loves God????????????????????????????? NORMAL SIBLING BEHAVIOR, EVERYBODY! NOTHING WEIRD GOING ON HERE!

I adore how protective (and possessive) Cesare is of her, ready to commit murder at the very thought of a man mistreating her - yet he is still willing to step aside when he thinks she found a good man, because nothing matters to him more than Lucrezia's happiness, not even his own. It just so happens that he always has to step in again because nobody loves her quite to insane degree he does, and thus she only feels truly safe, happy and loved with him, hence her saying "Only a Borgia can truly love a Borgia."

And they, legitimately, are insepareble. They're always close to each other, holding hands, hugging, cuddling, KISSING - all long before they're ready to admit, even to themselves that they're in love.

They are so clueless about what level of physical affection is normal between relatives that they made out in front of her husband and were surprised he found out about their incestuous affair.

And more importantly, thanks to the show being cancelled after season 3 instead of getting the planned fourth season, they never broke up! The show literally ends with them in each other's arms, accepting their love. I couldn't have asked for literally anything else.

[zalrb]

I just finished the borgias, one of your posts a while ago motivated me to watch it, I dont know if you're still answering asks about this but I wanted to talk about something that's been going around my mind.

When Lucrezia refused Alfonso on 3x04, do you think it was because a part of her thought she and Cesare were together then? As in, despite him avoiding her gaze after, do you think she thought there was hope about it happening again in the future so she wanted to be "faithful" to him and taking advantage of Alfonso's seemingly innocence to convine him to have a sexless marriage for as long as she could?

It could also be that after finally sleeping with the man she trully loved, it was hard to get in the mood with her husband, since before she seemed on board with sleeping with him an felt rejected when Alfonso didn't want to.

But I really like the idea of Lucrezia having hopes of her and Cesare being in a relationship, despite her marriage.

I will always be open to Cesare and Lucrezia asks. And this is an interesting one! I think it's a combination of both things, the latter leading to the former. So, I would say that it's more than it's hard for Lucrezia to get in the mood with Alfonso after sleeping with Cesare, I would say that the physical realization of her and Cesare's romantic love was transformative

like there was an internal shift that makes sleeping with anyone else an impossibility to her

like how would it be possible for her to feel anything with any other man

when she and Cesare have finally, finally stopped lying to themselves and the truth of their feelings has been laid bare to both of them.

And because of that impossibility, it becomes a sort of faithfulness to Cesare, a sort of resistance to betraying what was realized, which is why when I broke down 3x04, I spoke about how when Cesare tells Lucrezia about her having to consummate her marriage in front of Alfonso's uncle, there are two levels of anger :

and then lucrezia’s multi-layered anger, the first level of anger at how could you possibly ask me to do this, it’s embarrassing, it’s degrading, it’s humiliating

and then the second layer of how could you possibly ask me to do this, you who I love more than anyone and anything, me who you love more than anyone and anything and cesare is just determined to stay calm and detached and to just take it

and then she reiterates that she loves him because she whimpers that right before he kisses her

and the fact that he kisses her instead of just holding her or instead of just saying i don’t want you to do this speaks to what i believe is the primary issue, which is lucrezia’s second layer of anger, which is i’m in love with you, i’m not sleeping with my husband because this love between us has been realized, do you honestly not feel this with the same intensity, are you honestly okay, as the man that i love, with everything that’s happening right now? and the kiss being an affirmation of love that is not familial love

so I do think because of this shift, this transformation, this impossibility of true affection with anyone else, which they later reiterate in Relics

Lucrezia, at the time of her initial abstaining, had hoped for them to keep a sort of physical faithfulness to each other as well as a spiritual one.

[scaly-freaks]

Hi hi

You’ve said that Amara was never the disciplinarian parent, and I’m curious - does Jaehaerys acts good when she’s around? I can def see him & jaehaera being sweet to their parents and torturing the poor servants.

Keep in mind I'm just making this stuff up as people ask so it's all new to me too ><

But I'd say yes, because it shocks her when he reaches 17 and suddenly flips a switch. After she rejects him, he stops pretending in front of her. Jaehaera isn't as much of an asshole as him, and doesn't go out of her way to mistreat the servants. It's been a while since I watched the Borgias but I'd compare her to Lucrezia tbh (her and Jaehaerys would be like Lucrezia x Juan tbh).

[dangermousie]

So, further pushing for New Tales of the Gisaeng...

This is a 50 ep family drama so it has a lot of narratives but I was in it for Damo, an icy upper class scion and Saran, a working class dancer with a birth secret.

Some reasons why you should watch:

He's smitten at first sight when he sees her perform...

He has a giant half-naked portrait of himself in his room. As he should. Look at those abs!

He's set up with a rich girl but he has no interest. Instead he sends flowers to Saran with this sign and the nerd in my DIES because this is a pun on his name which is Ah Damo (aka Salvadore Adamo, a French singer whose most famous song is...you guessed it...Tombe La Neige)

He invites her to a hotel and she makes him kneel in the street for treating her like a hooker. I have a whole post about it. And then later, they have wacko convos like:

Damo: Let's try a 'clean' love. I won't touch you in any way unless you initiate it. We'll see where it will all go. Saran: How do I know you won't try to get handsy again? Damo: If I try, I'll marry you. I can sign a contract if you wish.

Spoiler - she initiates a whole bunch of touching...

Poor dude has to literally recite "Our Father" not to grab her :P

She learns to play catch because he said he always wanted to do it with daddy evilest but daddy never bothered; and he fantasizes proposing to her and then freaks because he's in too deep and dumps her. Because he's a functional person from a functional family. He says it's because of status but we all know it's because he's a coward terrified of how obsessed he is.

On top of that, poor woman learns she's adopted blah blah her whole life has been a lie. So she decides to do the one sane thing: BECOME A GISAENG!!!! That woman takes "I will show you how unsuitable and tainted I am" to new levels and I love it. Meanwhile ML who doesn't know is losing his mind not having her in his life and is all "why don't you be MY SISTER!" ahahahaha omg hi Borgia! This is FL's are you insane face.

Anyway he finds out she's a gisaeng and tries to drag her away...

When he's begging her to quit and telling her he'll start a dance troupe just for her and she tells him "don't you dare" and to use this money instead to come to gisaeng house "and I'll play with you." He tells her he can't work or do anything except to think about this and she comments he's selfish to the end, just thinking how things affect him. And he asks her if she's going to guests' rooms and she says "next week". It gets better! He asks her how will she feel with drunks' holding her hands and she says she only feels things when they hug her. And he hauls off and slaps her and she slaps him back, harder. And there is a beat while he looks at her and then he grabs her into a hug and just won't let go but she struggles free and hits him again, repeatedly. And he tells her "you said you only feel when they hug you" and she snarls at him "bring money to the gisaeng house and make an appointment."

He comes to the gisaeng house with a friend because he knows she won't see him.

He proposes marriage with the world's biggest ring and gets turned down!!!

He does the sane thing and volunteers to work as the servant in the gisaeng house to show her he is serious and gets to call her my lady, flip her shoes and wipe her mouth and give her all his money. As one does.

He gets to scrub the floor on his hands and knees and watch her serve the guests...as one does.

He makes her soup in the middle of the night and begs her to come away with him. (When she asks if it's from pity and he looks at her and says "love. It's for love. What else do you have to offer?") Also, because he's Damo and therefore generally odd, he tells her working all these menial tasks as a servant made him really get into perfect physical shape so they should get married asap so as to take advantage of that.

He finally loses it after a client insults her badly and demands she leave with him. Her reaction? Have water poured on him.

His reaction? All right lady, I am bringing out the big guns and removing my shirt.

They are FUCKED UPPPPPPP

Shortly after, we get this. Mixed signals queen! I love you! (He tells her she's so awesome if they get married, she'd be marrying down.)

Yup, we have aristo wooing a quasi-hooker. Who is all "fine, I will be your mistress but I won't marry you, and if you won't mistress me, I will take another lover." And so she does - or is about to - and he crashes it all defeated and kneeling and begging and groveling and telling her he will give in and make her his mistress just not to leave himmmm.

And she's finally "OK, fine, you win, I will make an honest man out of you!"

And then we get 20 more eps of glorious insanity and his family cutting him off etc etc. Delish.

This drama ate my year back way when.

[shipcestuous]

Ehehehe, I just had to share with someone who'd understand~~: I'm finally watching The Borgias!!! :DDD I've wanted to watch it forever after seeing all those incredible gifs and such, but it's just never really been the right time. But I finally started it today and ahhhhh Cesare and Lucrezia are already so so SO cute, even just in the first episode!!! <333 My little incest shipper heart is melting, hahaha 😍💕💕

Welcome to the party, Anon! I'm so glad you're embarking on this shipping journey.

[unhelpfulfemme]

Once again I participate in the "get to know your mutuals" chain mail meme (I'm 100% this is not the correct term but my brain is really fried atm), this time I was tagged by @stripedroseandsketchpads :D I feel like I do this every two months at least so I'm kind of out of people to tag who haven't done it recently, and I've also been kind of dissociated from Tumblr due to work stress so I don't remember if I added anyone new recently :/ So whoever wants to do it, let's pretend I tagged you :D

Last song I listened to: Them Crooked Vultures - No One Loves Me & Neither Do I - I just discovered this band! Even though it's made up of really famous people from other more famous bands! And I really like it!

Currently watching: The Borgias. So far it's... okay? I'm enjoying the character beats but the actual plotty plot (i.e. the politics and wars) is so slowly paced and overly linear. They seem really scared of the audience not getting it so they only allow one plotty thing to be happening at any given time, and they make sure to spell everything out at least once per episode. Which is... not what I'm used to in my historical political drama (quite the opposite in fact!). Perhaps I could have benefited from this approach if it were a fantasy world or a country I don't have much to do with (I remember having to open up a map of Scotland so many times while reading the first Lymond because they kept going from one city to the other and I didn't know where they were in relation to each other), but it's set in my own country and half of the "as you know" recaps are just basic Italian geography for the anglophone audiences lol. After the fifth time one well-educated character explains to another well-educated character that Florence is in the north-west and Naples is south of Rome, I kind of want to scream. The pronounciations are also all over the place - three guys are sitting at a table looking each other in the eyes and pronouncing "Medici" 3 incorrect ways, at least they could have streamlined it between the actors. Like far be it from me to demand proper pronounciation with the way Italians butcher English words constantly, but at least make it consistent! Luke Pasqualino is the only one pronouncing anything as it should be pronounced, and I really felt bad for him in that scene where Lucrezia keeps asking him to say her name and they're both repeating it over and over, because he's the only one pronouncing it correctly while she's saying it as if she had a mouth full of rocks. Btw my favourite Holliday Grainger fucking up the Italian scene so far is when she needs to ride breathlessly up to the French king and say a long line about her brother Juan the Gonfaloniere and basically she's supposed to repeat "Gonfaloniere" several times and you can literally see her going "my brother is the gonfalonsajkdnajsdsbaj" and making a "fuck it, whatever" expression when she gets to the complicated part. Anyway I am enjoying the show, the pronounciations make me laugh they don't make me mad. And the costumes are gorgeous!

Sweet/spicy/savory: Savory or spicy, depending on the mood. I dislike sweet things.

Current Obsession: Nothing really, I've been really tangled up with RL things and am feeling vaguely anhedonic because I keep thinking about work, so it's hard to get into something haha. This is actually why I'm able to focus on the Borgias, because they have quite low bandwidth requirements (i tried to watch it before and found it slow-ish). This too shall pass I suppose :)

[liaa--qb]

Why, do you think, helaemond is more popular on ao3 than alysmond?

see people like that particular ship more and why they like it ? I am gonna say this answer very clearly in simple words as general audience/reader. I read FnB after watching HOD s1( n I still don't know why this book has so much hype cz it was just normal😑 if I compare it with my other favourite fantasy books). I dk wtf happens on twt, I am not twt stan thankfully that place is worse, some of my friends r so Ik how rubbish some people behave there .

Aemond to me is a character who is someone very perfect material for ETL ships or forbidden ships😂. I myself find Rhaena/Aemond or Aemond/strong daughter of Rhaenyra ship way more interesting than alysmond but that's never gonna happen😅

Then there's Helaemond which is also a forbidden ship. Main point of these ships would be that " Aemond is the typical bad guy who will fall for someone good.🤡🎃" That's how mostly fanfics n reader works usually go for in every fandom😹. Same thing kinda goes for Halaemond , as Helaena is pure Angel while Aemond is a villian. It's giving all typical bad guy-good girl dynamic with forbidden incest which actually suits HOTD alot😅, recreating borgias scandal again !

These are the major ships of Aemond -

Aemond with strong bastard of Rhaenyra

Aemond with any girl on team black side( daughter of Daemon/Rhaenyra)

Aemond with Helaena

Readers and writers like these following ships of Aemond more than any canon so ofc they would go for that whether it's ao3, Wattpad or anything. Aemond and normal servant or any other oc is more famous than alysmond 😭 and it's just reader's choice, no one forced them.

Moreover the way Aemond is , he is someone who would definitely go for valerian targ blood girl if his narcissist ass had any chance.

I usually don't get attracted to incest alot. I adore dany but I am still not fond of Jon/Dany 😭 & never will. It's all chemistry. Milly n Matt also had good chemistry 🔥 I got attracted to halaemond during episode 8, 9. Idk but chemistry was real good when they were just staring at each other. I still don't know why that guy turned his whole fucking chair to watch her dance with Jace !

Halaemond is providing more content for drama, forbidden, incest, cheating on green side and they do have a chance of becoming a kinda forbidden tragic couple. In short their couple actually reminds of something 'hamlet n Ophelia', very much. One can write alot if they want to n unlike other ships of Aemond it actually has chance on screen. So why not ?

though I appreciate every ship including alysmond too but I genuinely don't consider it was any romantic ship just the way some Stans like to say n I have reasons for it. It was sexy, they were partners with benefits like melisandre and stannis but never romantic to me. Who knows I might get attracted to alysmond if gayle and ewan's chemistry turned out to be good. It's different for everyone, right now to me other ships of Aemond have more appeal than alysmond, [nothing against alysmond 🙌 ] it's just my own preference n I am not shaming or forcing anyone.