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creature-wizard · 3 months
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Today, an African American on facebook told me that it's racist to say that ancient astronaut theory is racist, because those stories are etc. are part of their beliefs and culture. Yes really..
Yeah, there's unfortunately Black folks there who are internalizing the claims that all of this stuff is actually part of their cultures' historical lore. I wonder if you could encourage them to genuinely look into the sources of these claims?
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pelagae · 3 months
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Ancient Alien Theory is like some weird almost cult for atheists who can't let go of the culture of religion.
I watch the show for funsies. Usually when I'm high. It's entertaining in a "could it be? Ancient Astronaut Theorists say..... ~~a ReSoUnDiNg YeS~~!" 🥴 sort of way. I think it's fun to see stuff about ancient history, even if they do make it about aliens. It's like a sort of alternate timeline fantasy along with neat history for me. It's fun to see the commonalities in ancient cultures because, to me, it speaks to our connections and similarities as humans, the stories we tell covering such shared themes. Just watched one that talked about about mandalas and the images created by sound waves, which was just cool from a science-culture overlap perspective. And then the other stuff about modern UFO sightings and things just being weird news, conspiracy theory shenanigans.
But I was watching it the other day, and I thought, "This is Baha'i for atheists." Not that I'm all that familiar or saying it correlates with actual Baha'i philosophy, just in the way that Ancient Alien Theory is rooted in concepts and stories from religions and cultures all over the world, especially the Abrahamics, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, and Buddhism.
Whether or not you're thinking of God or aliens, the idea that someone/thing out there purposely manipulated our planet and our evolution to create the human race, that human civilization has been influenced by some extraterrestrial force bringing knowledge and technology, that someday these beings will (or already have) return for some greater purpose or next step, yada yada yada... all just sounds like Christians and similar who maybe have given up the spiritual belief but still want those concepts to exist. At times, it really just comes across as a scientific explanation for religious creation stories. Like, how is "God put water on the Earth" so different from "Water came from asteroids. But could it be possible that an extraterrestrial civilization sent water-bearing asteroids... on purpose? Ancient Astronaut Theorists say yes"? Just taking science and history and making it fit the theory, exactly like a religion would. Even one of their main people, Eric Von Danikan, is super Christian and defends his faith in God despite writing the book on how angels are aliens and Jesus was half alien. It's religion with a sciencey mask on.
I think that if people 5,000 years ago were cutting stone with greater precision than we were doing 100 years ago, that's pretty neat. Saying they were able to do it because of aliens is not only a discredit to those people, but it reveals the religious mentality or external locus of control in the otherwise atheist-identifying proponents of the theory.
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skygodz · 1 year
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'The Gods from Outerspace" was a short-lived large format comic book series published in Germany and France based on Erich von Daeniken's 'Chariot of the Gods" book.
The astronauts are discovering the tombs of Egypt.
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squirrelstone · 2 years
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Ancient alien theory is really just a bunch of self-important racist atheists saying “I don’t believe in any gods… unless you call them aliens.”
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By Scott Corrales © 2024
Much has been written in fact and fiction about the contact between ‘unsophisticated’ peoples – usually referring to tribes in South America or isolated groups in the Pacific – and modern, Western civilization. Whether we go as far back as the experiences of Ferdinand Magellan or as recently as the Cargo Cults of Melanesia in World War 2, the situation repeats: the astonishment of the locals when faced with the new arrivals, the urge to impress on the part of said new arrivals, whether to intimidate or evangelize the locals, and ultimately a revolt by the locals when they discover that the new arrivals are humans much like themselves, neither gods nor masters.
But what are we to make about accounts involving contact between primitive peoples and clearly different, apparently non-human, visitors from another reality?
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daancienttime · 1 year
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What We Got Wrong About Da Ancient Time
The study of ancient civilizations has long captivated the human imagination, but as our understanding evolves, it becomes evident that some of our assumptions about these ancient times have been flawed. In this blog, we will explore a few key misconceptions and shed light on what we've gotten wrong about the ancient world.
Misconception 1: Monolithic Cultures: One prevalent misconception is that ancient civilizations were homogenous and uniform in their beliefs and practices. In reality, these societies were often diverse and dynamic, comprising various ethnic groups, languages, and cultural traditions. For example, ancient Egypt saw changes in religious practices and ruling dynasties over its long history, reflecting a complex and evolving society.
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Misconception 2: Technological Inferiority: Another common misconception is that ancient civilizations were technologically primitive compared to our modern era. While they lacked our advanced tools, ancient peoples displayed remarkable ingenuity. The ancient Greeks, for instance, developed sophisticated mathematical concepts and complex machinery, such as the Antikythera mechanism—an ancient analog computer.
Misconception 3: Lack of Intellectual Pursuits: It is often assumed that ancient societies were solely focused on survival and lacked intellectual pursuits. However, this disregards the significant contributions made by ancient scholars, philosophers, and scientists. The Library of Alexandria in ancient Egypt, for instance, housed a vast collection of knowledge, while ancient India produced groundbreaking mathematical treatises like the concept of zero.
Misconception 4: Primitive Art and Architecture: Ancient Civilizations produced stunning works of art and impressive architectural marvels, which challenge the notion of their supposed primitiveness. The intricate sculptures of ancient Greece, the grandeur of Roman architecture, and the awe-inspiring temples of Angkor Wat in the Khmer Empire all attest to the advanced artistic skills and architectural knowledge of these ancient peoples.
Misconception 5: Limited Gender Roles: Ancient societies are often portrayed as strictly adhering to traditional gender roles, with women confined to domestic duties. However, evidence from various ancient civilizations suggests a more nuanced reality. Women in ancient Egypt enjoyed legal rights and could hold positions of power, while the Celtic societies of ancient Europe recognized women as warriors and leaders.
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Conclusion: Reassessing our preconceptions about Ancient times allows us to appreciate the complexity and diversity of these civilizations. Ancient societies were not monolithic or technologically inferior, and they fostered intellectual pursuits and artistic achievements. By reevaluating these misconceptions, we gain a deeper understanding of the ingenuity, resilience, and cultural richness that characterized the ancient world. It is a reminder that history is a tapestry woven with diverse threads, and our interpretations should continually evolve as new discoveries and insights come to light.
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rumorscity · 1 year
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The Truth Behind the Rumors: Are Aliens Really Among Us? Top 5 Conspiracy Theories Debunked
For generations, the possibility of life beyond Earth has intrigued and sparked discussion among people worldwide. Speculation about extraterrestrial beings coexisting with humans has fueled countless conspiracy theories over the years. In this piece, we’ll delve into five of the most prominent alien conspiracy theories and demystify the misconceptions associated with them. Alien…
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femme-objet · 2 years
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recently saw someone claim that "ancient aliens was promulgated by the nazis" and like. they were so caught up in debunking pseudohistory abt ancient civilizations that they fell for pseudohistory about the nazis
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relaxedstyles · 17 days
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Humans ain't real, brother.
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aboutoriginality · 9 months
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each-uisge · 2 years
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got in a minor spat with an aesthetic blog i’d been following for years that suddenly posted racist ancient aliens conspiracy theories (they were like a goth esoteric aesthetic blog???? never once posted anything with words the whole time i’ve been following them). I called them out about it and they just dug their heels in and got defensive
nbd my block button is there for a reason
but it’s just been rattling around in my head ever since because shit like this is exactly how it started before my mom (and other people i know, im sure) went off the rails.
this shit is so easy for people to fall into.
any criticism of these fringe conspiracy theories is considered a personal attack instead of valid criticism of some dumb, racist, fringe idea that’s 1000000% disprovable, simply because theyve already swallowed so much of these dumb theories that they consider them super important. they’ve already drawn a line in the sand and positioned themselves on one side and any criticism on the other.
i think we as a society seriously need to start cracking down on fringe conspiracy theory communities. i know in america it’s all ancient aliens and chem trails but i know other countries have their own stupid fringe groups who peddle paranoia and uncertainty. this is an internet problem because these people congregate online and pull new people in with it.
and on another note, shame on the history channel for airing that stupid ancient aliens show.
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creature-wizard · 7 months
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Looks like it's time to talk about starseeds and the New Age movement again.
Since I'm seeing more starseed content being posted, I'm gonna make another post on why the whole starseed thing and the surrounding New Age belief system are... not good.
So for those who don't know, New Age mythology is essentially a hodgepodge of cherrypicked and distorted myths from various cultures, racist pseudohistory, and far right conspiracy theories. To put it very briefly, starseeds are supposedly here to help Earth resist the reptilians, a race of politics-manipulating, war-starting, media-controlling blood-drinking aliens. For those who don't recognize the tropes here, these are basically all antisemitic canards. The reptilian alien myth as most know it today comes from David Icke, who ultimately cribbed a bunch of his material from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a Russian hoax created to justify violence against Jews. He was also influenced by the work of people like Fritz Springmeier, a hateful crank who based much of his work on other hateful cranks.
(David Icke, by the way, also claims that transgender is an evil reptilian conspiracy. You'll never find just one form of bigotry with these people.)
There are supposedly numerous alien races out there, and one of the most prominent among them are the Pleiadians, AKA Nordics. While modern depictions of the Pleiadians give them more variety in skintone, there's no denying that older Pleiadian mythology basically pictured them as Aryans In Space, even associating them with the swastika.
You see what's going on here? "Good" swastika-loving Aryan aliens versus "evil" Jewish aliens? Sound familiar?
Racism isn't just a tangential part of the starseed myth, either. It lies at its very core. It's inextricably tied in with the ancient astronaut hypothesis, which has a history of racist motivation behind it. The TL;DR is that a bunch of white people couldn't believe that non-white people had built a bunch of things they couldn't figure out how to build themselves (EG, the Great Pyramids), so they proposed that the real builders were anyone from Atlanteans to aliens. (Atlantis, by the way, never existed; it was a literary device created by Plato.)
One supposed purpose of starseeds is to help the world "wake up to the truth," which basically just means "convert people to New Age spirituality." New Age believes that world peace is contingent on a majority of the world being converted to New Age belief, and that resistance against their belief system is ultimately the work of the aforementioned reptilian aliens.
To put it another way, New Agers think they understand other cultures' spiritual traditions better than the actual members of said cultures, and think that anyone who disagrees with them is being manipulated by the conspiracy, or is an agent of the conspiracy. This includes Indigenous cultures which are already endangered from white Christian colonialism.
Essentially, endangered cultures cannot speak up for themselves and resist New Agers' efforts at cultural assimilation without being labeled a problem and an enemy. It's basically white Christian colonialism repackaged as "spiritual, not religious."
Again - if you heard from these people that some ancient text or myth describes extraterrestrial beings visiting our planet for one reason or another, you heard misinformation. They twist and misrepresent literally every myth and text they get their hands on. For example, you may have heard that the vimanas from Hindu traditions were actually alien spacecraft. They were no such thing. Or maybe you heard that the Book of Enoch describes aliens performing genetic experimentation on humans. It literally does not. At best, all of the stories they cite just kind of sound like aliens if you ignore most of their content and pay no attention to their cultural contexts.
The starseed movement preys on alienated people, especially autistic people and people with ADHD. You can look up nearly any list of signs that you're supposedly a starseed, and many of them will align perfectly with characteristics associated with autism and/or ADHD, or that people with these conditions commonly report. Some people within the movement even go so far as to claim that ADHD and autism don't even exist, but were actually made up by the conspiracy as a cover to suppress and control starseeds, which is some yikes-as-hell ableism.
So basically, people are being told that if they have these certain characteristics or symptoms, that means it's their job to spread New Age spirituality to defeat the conspiracy and help others ascend to the fifth density.
And what's the fifth density, you might ask? It's supposedly humanity's next evolutionary level, because New Age is also based on biological misconceptions. Supposedly once everyone's DNA "upgrades," they'll essentially morph into an aetheric form. Supposedly, this is preceded by a number of "ascension symptoms," including depression, headache, gastrointestinal issues, and any number of other symptoms that could indicate almost anything, including stress.
What many of these people don't realize is, this prediction has already failed. Back in the 2000s and 2010s, experiencing "ascension symptoms" was supposed to precede ascension to 5D beginning December 21, 2012. One lady, Denise Le Fay, was convinced that the hair loss she was experiencing in 2008 was an ascension symptom. As we can see by looking her up, she's very much still with us on the 3D plane these days, repeating the same tired old scripts New Agers recycle endlessly.
By the way, everything you near New Agers saying today about old systems being dismantled, dark forces being arrested or kicked off the planet, and new economic systems on the horizon? They've been recycling these scripts for years now. Take a look at this page written back in 2012. You got stuff about the complete dismantling of an enormous network of sinister forces," "the arrest and removal of a world-wide cabal," and a "new economic system."
("Cabal," by the way, is a dogwhistle term for "Jews.")
Furthermore, people in this movement are often encouraged to try and access past life memories through dreams or hypnosis, which makes the whole thing feel even more real to them. But the thing is, you can have incredibly vivid experiences about literally anything you put your mind to - the people in the reality shifting having vivid experiences of living another life in the Harry Potter universe are a great example of this. Just because you have vivid experiences, doesn't mean they have any bearing on anything happening in this reality.
So yeah, the starseed movement and the larger New Age movement are both extremely harmful. They promote racist pseudohistory, medically-irresponsible pseudoscience, conspiracy theories that target numerous marginalized groups, and functionally target aliened people with ADHD and autism to convince them that spreading its beliefs is their job.
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dilfsisko · 2 years
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Ancient aliens makes me violent I don’t think I can begin to describe how much I fucking hate that shit
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skygodz · 1 year
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'The Gods from Outerspace" was a short-lived large format comic book series published in Germany and France based on Erich von Daeniken's 'Chariot of the Gods" book.
The astronauts are fighting the insectoid invaders.
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sevenstevearmy · 2 years
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Watching Ancient Aliens even to make fun of it and point out inaccuracies and flat out lies is just painful. People watch this on the History Channel and think it's true bc it's ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL. None of these people know anything about geology, psychology, anthropology, sociology, biology, astronomy, physics, etc. etc. etc.
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