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ladsofsorrow24 · 8 months
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watched a yhara zayd review of saltburn and... wow that sounds like a very boring film, ngl
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firecrackerhh · 7 months
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Honestly the fact this fandom is so fucking gatekeepy is so fucking ironic. Like you would think a fandom for a show about redemption would be more willing to give people second chances, but I’ve seen Hazbin Twitter, some of you bitches take no fucking prisoners.
Like rules for thee but not for me. It’s fine if let’s say, a big hazbin account or Viv herself drew controversial/proship shit years ago or whatever, that’s totally fucking acceptable, but if anyone in the fandom draws that shit in the present day everyone acts like they committed fucking homicide.
I wonder, if Viv drew problematic shit like that in the present day, how many fans would defend her? Or would they drop her like a hot iron?
Hell, it seems the big hazbin accounts in general are allowed to be the most rancid toxic cunts in the fucking universe against others they don’t like, but god forbid a smaller account has shit to say about it or the bigger accounts fucking feel the need to quote tweet it opening them up to harassment.
I think if anything, this fandom should be gatekeeping against antis in any form, whether it come from a big account or not. I guess some people just refuse to see the irony.
Like don’t act like you’re somehow better than the anti Viv people when you do the same fucking shit they do. Just because you just so happen to like Viv’s stuff doesn’t make it acceptable to treat other fans like shit over stupid shit.
A show about redemption shouldn’t be having fans so willing to throw others under the bus for the tiniest shit. Hazbin Twitter is so full of shit.
Never mind the fucking ship discourse in general, Jesus Christ, does anyone in this fandom actually have any fun, or do they just want excuses to be fucking bullies towards people they deem acceptable to harass, because honestly some people on Hazbin Twitter make me fucking sick. Hypocrites and bullies the lot of them.
Makes me wonder how many fans were insecure fucking losers in high school and now they wanna act like Regina fucking George over objectively retarded online discourse. For the love of god please touch grass.
Never mind the fact that so many people in this fandom insist on engaging with Viv antis as if arguing with these fucking glue eaters is in any way going to change their mind. Why argue with these people when it’s obvious they have no intention of doing so? Why do people insist on continuing to talk about certain Viv antis, practically fucking stalking them, making them no better than the antis they bitch about? Do they not see the hypocrisy? Do they not care?
Just saying, cataloging every single little thing a Viv anti does is fucking weird dude. Even if they’re talking shit about you, why would you continue to voluntarily keep looking at their shit?
Like I know I’m probably the pot calling the kettle black here, but man, at least when I respond to an antis takes on my blog I leave it at that. I don’t usually feel the need to be like “here’s everything else wrong they’ve ever said!” In some huge ass thread. I don’t make specific blogs calling out any anti in particular or some shit. I don’t make a fucking google doc accusing them of shit that they didn’t do, or at least, I don’t act like the person being a freak towards me is actually capable of doing anything.
Like yes Chai is annoying, but screaming about a fly in your house won’t make it fucking leave. You don’t get rid of a scab by fucking touching it, if you give a child attention when they have a fucking tantrum, they will start to think that’s the only way they can get attention from you and do it more.
And honestly, pardon the hot take here, but constantly fucking accusing someone of being into actual children or animals just cuz they like loli or feral animal nsfw is fucking retarded.
Is it fucking weird? Frankly, yeah, imo. But is any of it real? Are they harming an actual person? Are they grooming children? Are they hurting any actual animals? If you have no actual evidence for either, then I’m sorry, maybe you should just shut the fuck up. It’s fine to be uncomfy about that shit, but accusing people of such things with no evidence beyond drawings honestly sounds fucking offensive to people who’ve suffered actual fucking abuse.
I don’t deny that there are those who use the proship label to hide their awful behavior or whatever, but man, antis are no fucking better. Do you have any idea how many stories I’ve seen of conservatives who bitch about the gays grooming children when they are also the same kinds of people who think child brides are acceptable in the modern era? Who cry about protecting children when they have little issue in abusing them, but they think it’s ok when they do it?
I say conservative and not antis cus as far as I’m concerned there’s no real difference between the two.
If you seriously believe that fiction affects reality that directly, if you really believe the same arguments as the “video games causes violence!” Type of conservatives, I’m just going to assume that something is wrong with you, that you are terribly emotionally immature, that you are just fucking projecting, cuz I’m sorry, but not everyone is as fucking stupid as you.
Frankly I wonder if there are studies on this shit, cognitive dissonance is an astounding phenomenon. It’s something antis are full of.
…damnit I gotta stop going on tangents lmao.
I just…Jesus Christ man, why is everyone in this fandom such an insufferable fucking jackass? Why is this fandom full of bullies? Why is everyone here such an insecure whiny fucking baby? Viv can’t even fucking make fat jokes or people complain, shit, I saw someone bitch about how Lucifer calling sinners psychopaths is fucking insensitive to people with ASPD, like cmon man by that logic you can say Alastor’s existence as a character is fucking offensive, should Alastor not exist then? They changed Alastor’s symbols to something else but some people still think it’s offensive, Mimzy being annoying to the other characters is apparently offensive towards fat people, as if her weight has anything to do with her personality.
I just don’t understand how a fandom based on a show about hell could be so fucking whiny, so goddamn insecure, so fucking sensitive, what the fuck are you people doing here!?!?! Frankly maybe we should be gatekeeping against whiny little fucking babies like you.
Just…fuck am I tired.
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only sane person in this fucking fandom. Tho if there are people who still like my posts, I guess I can’t be. Thank fuck for that I suppose.
Lmao I’m sorry for the tangents I’m just incapable of staying on topic, if you think this shit is hard to read, imagine what it’s like in my fucking head at all fucking times.
🔥🧨~Firecracker out~🔥🧨
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daemosghost · 3 years
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Ew a dream stan touched one of my posts once again and it was to say "you wouldn't be doing all of this if it was any other content creator"
And uh yes we would?? It's not often you come across a huge toxic ass fanbase filled to the brim with young impressionable kids, freaks of all kinds, and embarrassing weird adults that probably still like Hamilton and Thomas Sanders that take parasocial relationships too far
When I was a kid I would hate on Beiber and his fans just for fun, as a tween I would make fun of One Direction stans with my friends and others online because I'd witnessed a lot of weird shit revolving the stans of OD, as a young teen people started shipping YouTubers together, making these YouTubers heavily uncomfortable and I even saw fanfics and drawings of them either fucking or them with their dicks out a few times and it got to a point where the YouTubers themselves had to address that shit and voice their discomfort but it still kept going, around this same time the same thing was happening with weird kpop stans and their obsession with cow hybrid Jimin or whatever weird shit and I thought it couldn't get any worse than that.
I was wrong and foolish af for thinking that because the same thing started happening again with you dreamsmp stans but much MUCH worse, I had to witness dream chair gore art, I came across literal cp and pedo art of dream, his friends, and his younger sibling, people in your fanbase that are sick fucks will even retaliate against people that critisice your favorite white dude by drawing porn of them, many times it's gore porn, pedophilia, or bestiality because many of the people criticizing are literal minors that these sick fucks drew porn of. You guys lose your fucking minds when ANYTHING happens and you guys even dogpile others when dream either vague tweets or responds to a tweet that is negative about him.
I'm tired of you guys pretending not to see that shit and pretending it's a small portion of the fanbase, I'm tired of you guys implying we're only talking shit about him because he's popular because it's very fucking clear WHY we constantly talk about you guys and the dudes in the dsmp in particular, you are all in denial.
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rainbowsky · 3 years
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Final round-up of fan fic asks
I've gotten a few more interesting responses to the fan fic discussion so I'm going to round them all up here. This will be my final post on the topic until/unless there's a dramatic new development, or a particularly notable response I want to highlight. Thanks to everyone who brought their thoughts and experiences to the topic. I hope everyone at least feels heard.
The biggest piece of advice that I would like to offer is for everyone to focus on what they love rather than what they hate. If we all did that, the world would be a better place. Alongside that, I'd like to remind everyone to please support authors whose work you like. It's so important. Give them a kudos, give them a nice comment, recommend their work to others. You never know what kind of grief and harassment they are dealing with to bring you these great stories, and our support means a lot.
This is in reference to previous posts here and here.
Anonymous asked:
With regard to fandom and fan fic issue, my years of experience being part of very large fandoms has led me to believe that big accounts are v important in facilitating and enforcing the general consensus of the whole fandom. Unless there will be big accs who'll remind everyone of being respectful & just not being a dick over other's preferences, nothing will change.
This is also the reason why I think certain solo fandoms have adapted weird and twisted narratives as their general fandom story because no big acc has tried to police them & and say hey pls be rational. Whether we like it or not, in a place where how far voices, ideas, tweets, posts get heard is based on the number of followers you have, big accs will have the power and influence in creating/curating/shifting the narratives.
So, if you want to know why your/our fandom thinks like this in general, look at what big accs are tweeting/posting, look at what ideas & values they follow, look at their preferences or how strongly they react to certain situations. it's taxing and toxic for big accs given the nature of social media these days, but it's also the reality of system, the more followers/audience you have, the more influence you will have.
So to anyone reading this I hope we all practice more restraint and reflection before we post anything. Remember that words, no matter what medium you write it in, will always carry weight.
So true. It is easy - even for myself who spends a fair chunk of time answering people's asks - to forget that people can sometimes be impressionable and what we say can influence people whether that's our intent or not. I get used to thinking of myself as a regular guy just doing my own thing when sometimes my thoughts and words go well beyond where I initially posted them.
I think it's important for us to be careful what we say, and it's equally important to be careful what we take from what other people say. Especially when it comes to big claims. Always get a second, third, fourth opinion and don't be afraid to ask for clarification if something doesn't sit right or sounds confusing.
It's also important to reflect on how our words and actions might affect other people's experience of fandom, and err on the side of 'live and let live' wherever possible. It's great to have our own preferences and to champion them, but we should try to do so in a way that leaves space for other people and perspectives.
The more unique perspectives and the more friendly, open dialog there is, the healthier the community will be as a whole.
There's nothing wrong with encouraging and guiding growth in the particular areas we are interested in, as long as it doesn't step on, oppress or attack those who are peacefully enjoying something different.
Anonymous 2 asked: bjyx fans attacking gdgdbaby for including zsww/lsfy dynamics in an event named bjyx then turning right around and attacking the zsww/lsfy event organizer for excluding bjyx? god, can you hear my facepalm and sigh of resignation and incredulity from over there? im genuinely not surprised that they're trying to drive an entire part of the fandom out by disgusting them (and me) with these immature tactics. i believe what im about to say next will sound quite bait-y and i respect your decision 1/?
should you choose not to post this. but i do know that it is not only me, in fact there are many out there, that is of this opinion. we just dont talk about it on twitter to avoid the potential mess it will bring lol. okay, here goes nothing. (do note that im talking about the majority here, not every single person is like this) so bjyx fans tend to be cishet females whereas zsww/lsfy fans are more diverse in terms of age and gender, and most of them are part of the queer community too 2/?
i would like to clarify that most of these zsww/lsfy fans are not dynamic exclusive (in the sense that they are friendly and interact with all ggdd fans) they just prefer to "identify" themselves as zsww/lsfy fans (on twitter specifically) just to form a distinction from bjyx fans who mostly are dynamic exclusive (as in; they do not consume non-bjyx content, and straightup refuse to interact with non-bjyx fans, often blocking them). as a result, id say that the zsww/lsfy communiy is way more 3/?
mature and respectful (after all, they're mostly queer people talking about a queer ship) whereas many problems in this fandom, such as the homophobia, adamantly insisting on "drawing lines" between dynamics, stem from the bjyx exclusive fans, comprised of cishet females who "may not know better". so, it is of no surprise to me that they're resorting to these immature tactics of calling gg unsavory names, and organizing retaliatory events with controversial topics in an attempt to "purify". 4/4
I trust that you have arrived at that theory through your own experience and observation. I haven't personally spent much time immersed in this stuff so I can't claim to have any real insight or expertise. If you say that's your experience of it, then at the very least that's how you've seen things up to this point.
I just want to say that I think we should always be careful about making assumptions about people's age, gender/gender identity, etc.
There are plenty of good reasons to avoid doing that; because those assumptions could be very wrong, because those assumptions are often laced with ageism, sexism, etc., because those assumptions - even when correct - might not be an accurate basis for the conclusions we draw.
But the primary reason I recommend avoiding those type of assumptions is because anything that enables us to clump a group of people together in our minds like that will tend to make them easier to demonize and dehumanize. They are no longer individuals who are each responsible for their own unique perspectives, they are now 'the X group' who is known for 'A B C series of easily attackable ideas or behaviors'.
If we attribute undesirable traits and behaviors to a group of people we feel opposed to in some way, that makes us feel more righteous and justified in behaving unfairly toward them, dismissing their humanity and warring with them. It's just risky behavior to engage in, even when it's well-intentioned.
There might actually be some truth to what you're saying. It could very well be that most of these people are young, inexperienced, heteronormative, etc. but if that's the case then we should try to use those traits to better understand and empathize rather than to better dismiss and discredit.
Just my two cents on that.
It can be really frustrating dealing with what feels like other people attacking us, trying to oppress us, etc. - especially when there are more of them than there are of us. In my experience the best solutions to that sort of problem are generally the ones that focus on what we are doing and want to do rather than what they are doing that we don't want them to do.
As I am always preaching, we can't control what other people say, do or think. The only thing we have any control over is what we say, do and think (and how we respond to what they say, do and think).
I have found in my experience that the moment I step out of a conflict mindset and instead step into a problem-solving mindset, everything starts to come together. I feel better, my outlook is more positive, I can begin to see solutions and allies rather than problems and enemies, and most of all, I become more focused on what I am doing than what others are doing.
So I would recommend everyone who is invested in resolving these conflicts focus on that. "How can we best showcase and encourage the types of stories we enjoy?" instead of "How can we stop these other people from doing things we dislike?"
Anonymous 3 asked:
Hello again! It’s anon #3 from the fanfic post. I really do appreciate reading your thoughts on various issues like this, so thank you for always taking time to write in depth. As for supporting without going to war, the simplest way has always been to just show appreciation for the creators, hype them up. Kudos are the easiest way on ao3 but comments in addition are great. This goes for all content—art, fics, vids..etc. Creators love to see and read how people react to their content. Sharing is also great, fic recs are very helpful, just be cautious with art and reposting though. Hope this helps a bit!
Thanks so much, Anon. I think this is excellent advice. And it's true that appreciation is great, but helping to expand the audience is also great. Recommending stories, pointing people to the pages/websites of artists we like (as opposed to reposting), sharing our own ideas and approaches, encouraging people to try new things... all of this helps build healthier communities.
And here's another one: WRITE! DRAW! CREATE!
I urge anyone with creative interests or talents to bring their voices to the community because we all can benefit from hearing from you.
Thanks again everyone for sharing your thoughts on this issue. I hope that over time we can all work in positive ways to improve the situation.
I think this subject has been well-covered now so I'm going to retire it for the time being. If anyone still feels they want to discuss it further please feel free to message me privately. Thanks.
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welcometomy20s · 4 years
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February 7, 2021
This is Part two of the introduction of Nijisanji. I have written for an audience who has just gotten to know vtubers through hololive and wants to explore more. This part cover all of Nijisanji members who has debuted in the year 2019.
2019 Part 1 (Jan-Apr)
Warabeda Meiji - Another eleven year old, but likes FF14 and K-On! So frequently described as an 11 year old third season. But she is genuinely cute! And a really good singer, so much so that her K-On cover gets banned for being too close!
Gundou Mirei - Actually a teacher, but definitely a ditzy and lazy one, that is incredibly sexual to an uncomfortable degree, you know, a fan favorite, including of mine. Watch her 3D streams and you will be amazed. Has a ship with Shoichi as mentioned before, even though she’s a self-professed bisexual. It’s odd but, you know, it works!
Yuzuki Roa - Kind of innocent devil like Towa, but more like a kid than an older sister. Really like Belmond. Was friends with Chitose, a retired member, and got a costume based on her a bit, and maybe is retiring herself, considering she hasn't uploaded for quite a few months now. Well, whatever. She’s cute and innocent.  
Onomachi Haruka - Another of the rare, truly seiso people in the team, but can go wild if the vibe goes that way. Lost and found a llama in minecraft once.
Seto Miyako - Kind of a quiet girl who might be psychopathic... you know the type. Her true tendencies pop up during gaming. Also tweets a lot... make sense.
Kataribe Tsumugu - Basically retired, but her concept was so shocking that it took Naruse Naru’s return of old design to push her into the bottom of the list.
Otogibara Era - She’s a Cinderella if she has gone completely out the window. People routinely separate the original Cinderella side as Era, and her true side as Gibara.
God, how do I describe her. Gibara is just great. Her adult comments are something to behold, let’s say she gels with Tamaki very well. She returns to monke often, and does other types of screams too... seriously look at her gacha stream and witness Gibara in her full glory. Also incredibly lazy and definitely cannot live by herself.
But as you have guessed it, she is an incredible singer. (It might be the case that incredible singing is associated with madness) Had knockout hit with her 3D stream, trending number one on twitter and 30,000 US dollars in superchats!
Lize Helesta - Queen of Shizuoka, I mean Heleste kingdom. Usually behaves like an empress, but as with most royalty has a real competitive spirit, so she knows how to badmouth when she needs to. So, she’s a really stingy person as well... not really fitting for a royalty, but you do know some people that act like that.
She’s a strange person. Look at asphalt or a handstand in order to sleep. Friends with Ange, who was a childhood friend, even with an age difference. Also does radio stuff with Lulu as well. Reveres Mito, wonder why. Again, incredible 3D debut.
Ange Katrina - Nice low-middle voice with a smooth upper body, and surprisingly small but that got fixed as 3D started. Think she’s cute, but blushes when people agree. Just a cool gal who I enjoy very much... her streams, I mean.
Inui Toko - She’s a cerberus, and now works at a cafe. A little bit out there, but definitely a tsukkomi. Usually does little gaming outside Minecraft, so mostly talks and sings. A unique laugh and loves Ensemble Stars. Hangs out with red and blue people, like Lize, Ange, Roa, Ayame, Suisei and so on. Actually is boing boing, Ange felt betrayed.
And as mentioned above, a great singer, and can play many instruments as well!
Saegusa Akina - High tension singer, who is quite sickly and is terrible with girls. But he got better as time went on and the ship with his gen mate Manami started to sail. Actually he hangs around with many girls... maybe it’s just Manami?
Arizona Manami - Ito Life’s daughter... so you know what she looks like. Calls herself the queen of sensitivity, and yes she does very suggestive streams... but she’s pretty innocent and childish... so she’s kind of like Melody in a way. Has a very fond-looking relationship with Akina as mentioned above.
Suzuhara Lulu - Just your typical art student. She’s a rich girl, so she knows very little about the outside world. Definitely has stamina of a thousand horses, famously played 11 hours of Dark Souls, then straight onto 10 hours of Ring Fit, and never got phased. Seriously, she never gets phased. She rode the freaking snake without a problem! Apparently really beautiful in real life, really has large expressions.
There’s a rumor going around that she’s actually some kind of an eldritch god... and I don’t know where that comes from at all. Look at her, she’s such a sweet gal, look at her dancing and singing... she’s a true idol, that’s what she is... (don’t hurt me.)
Yukishiro Mahiro - First-year high-schooler. Good variety of content. Her personality is of a rude kouhai. One viewer described her as a bad-tempered chihuahua. Really likes Kanae, which is okay, I guess. There’s not much more than that.
2019 Part 2 (May-Aug)
Ex Albio - A hero from a different world. Originally portrayed as a rude snarky figure, much like Kazuma without charm or luck but with perseverance. Got his fame through his noob Minecraft experience, as with Minecraft servers, they are ripe with collab opportunities, so he started to collab especially with Ars Almal, which he thinks as a mentor... and so they both talk in high register. Eventually became a couple.
Has a thing where he questions something and immediately denies it, which is quite funny. Eventually got a dark alter version due to the imagination tournament I talked about earlier, which brings the fact that he can’t fight until tragedy occurs.
Levi Elipha - Actually only six years old, and apparently dense, like physically dense. Great singer and good physique, does some English songs as well.
Nui Sociere - A 25-year old witch, but more like a NEET with an addiction to horse racing. Very much like Megumi in terms of magic abilities, but capable of melee.
Kind of sounds like Doraemon when she screams... usually plays JRPG... and well, just look at her. Damn... well, least you have something to look forward to.
Hayama Marin - Hayame is Hayame. She’s just a little kid with a pure mind. Yeah.
Hayato Kagami - CEO of a toy company, so called that. Polite and diligent, but like a CEO of a toy company, completely becomes a boy when getting a bit excited.
Actually is a great singer, maybe a trained singer as well. As a good example of rich getting richer, fans have a tendency to throw red superchat, a typical stream might hit 10K USD, even though there’s nothing particular going on.
Yorumi Rena - Idol magician, but no actual proof of her magic abilities. Plays APEX a lot. Very much an outgoing person with lots of collab from everyone. Hakase calls her mama. Sleep promptly at midnight, except when ARK was involved.
Also makes 8-bit art proficiently, does all her loading screen. A bit of a lewd mind.
Hakase Fuyuki - HIgh school girl who likes to experiment, but it’s obvious none of it ever works. Tries to ship Yorumi and Kagami, and calls him papa. Just absolutely in her own world and everyone is just privy to it... also incredibly bad at gaming.
Mayuzumi Kai - A white hacker. Very cool, but has a thing for comedy, almost to the level of Joe Riikichi, but laughs very little himself. Make sense, since he lost his parents at an early age and lived in the system, therefore is a night streamer. Very good with kids as a result, and very kind and polite as well.
Ars Almal - A mage who specializes in lightning. Started out by apologizing, gets bullied for her round face, usually by Shiina. Cute voice with toxic words with a knack for pranks and taunts. Actually is quite boing boing. Good at Minecraft construction, but get rough and dirty under the wheel, as in Mario Kart. Became a kitsune, and then immediately got compared to Fubuki... much like Fubuki in a sense.
Aiba Uiha - Another idol who is a bit out there, has a tendency to be clingy. Also has a large physique... kind of a denatured Lulu is what I’m getting at. Sisters with Ara Chae, incredibly bad eyesight, apparently. I can see that, actually.
Eli Conifer - A flower fairy and maid with a unique phrasing. Likes to immerse herself in games, very knowledgeable, especially with teas, and also handy at housework, and superb at drawing and singing. Ryushen and Rion think she’s a badass, and they might not be entirely wrong on that aspect, actually.
Kokoro Amaiya - Dragonborn, I think. But there’s no dragon anymore. Has that mumble-speak that people really don’t like. She’s very much kid-like in a sense, uh, so get put into the loli category much like her fellow peer. Incredibly weak.
Ratna Petit - Adventurer with an independent streak. Does games and ASMR, tries to be grown up during collabs, but retreats into a kid in solo streams. Got the infamous random deletion of the account that Kiara famously got.
Nijisanji ID Gen 1
Taka Radjiman - Another CEO, this time a food CEO. Usually streams games, but much like other CEOs here, a pretty good singer as well. Obviously a good cook as well.
ZEA Cornelia - She’s an automata. ZEA is short for Z-type Executive Automation. Likes to sing, and sung many songs including La Vien en Rose by IZONE! I really like her, her streams are bit odd and ZEA can carry a stream like no another.
Hana Macchia - A design student, much like Lulu. Likes drawing as you expect, also like gaming as well. Does some barista stuff as well, a kind of the ambassador of Nijisanji ID, since her father is American and her mother is Japanese, and she lives in Indonesia.
Papa Macchia appears on stream from time to time, and apparently was the progenitor of Hana’s gaming prestige as he played Doom and Half-Life. She’s on the cute side of things, but blushes when she gets called that. Also cries in horror, but screams in excitement... just overall a well-rounded in strangeness. I really like her.
2019 Part 3 (Sep-Dec)
Sukoya Kana - Incredibly smart, but also has an otaku and perverted side. Likes acting, as you might have guessed and bad at housework. Has a quiet voice, but gets savage when a game is involved. Pretty good at english as well. Does a radio show as well.
Oh, yeah, likes to throw up. It’s a thing. Also plays drums. She’s pretty cool.
Shellin Burgundy - Before Kanata did her PPT intro, Shellin was the first one. Professes himself to be a detective, but little lightheaded for that. Good narration voice, though, which means he’s a good singer as well. I kind of like him. He’s good.
Hayase Sou - An outdoorsy girl who likes cosplay and road biking. Kind of talks like she’s middle age, but she acts pretty young. And of course she likes shotas.
Fumi - It took over a year for her to debut. She’s a hikikomori gundam otaku and a goddess. A bit airheaded and pretty bad at gaming, and since she is 67, gets called grandma infrequently. She’s fun to watch. Has a ship with Nagao.
Hoshikawa Sara - Half Japanese and half English. Definitely a cool and tough, ready to take whatever sex jokes and insults you throw at her. Hangs out with Mahiro a lot, or with male members like Yumeoi, Ebio, Shellion or Kanda. Has a wide voice range, with a wide personality as well. There’s a sense of healing to her, honestly.
Obviously gets fangirled by many, including Matsuri, whose frequently red superchats her much to her confusion and relative embarrassment.
Yamagami Karuta - She’s a tengou in training, since she is filled with desires, mostly to connect with people. This is real, apparently. Has a ship with a staff member...
Matsukai Mao - Smartest devil... no, she’s an airhead like the rest of them. Apparently she can spit out crude oil... which is pretty useless. Definitely an unlucky, miserable person who needs to be protected at all times, and she relishes that like the devil she is.
Hangs around with Luis a lot in real life, apparently. Also plays APEX and stuff.
Emma August - Demon Lord that was thrown in an uprising, living with Morinaka Kazaki, and got a new house in February of last year. An alcoholic and a masochist, who gets berated by Kazaki of all people. Definitely not a loli, that’s for sure.
Luis Cammy - An expert thief, which excites Shellin very much. Seen as the leader of the gen, but found out to be much of a kid as the gen mates, especially around Shellin. They are a couple now, apparently. Oh yeah, she did an Outlast stream with a cat outfit and invited Shellin because she was scared? Now there's a loli version of her... yikes.
Fuwa Minato - A host, but a teetotaler, because of health problems... yet drinks Monster energy like it’s no business. A bit out there, as Nijisanji people are. A bit of a trickster, a bad boy if you will... right there with being good at games as well. He’s pretty cool.
Shirayuki Tomoe - When I first saw her, she felt like one of those people in mahjong tournaments. Well, she’s a queen of the night, so night-time streamer, although she has daytime streams as well. Strong drinker. Talks about SM, but also effortlessly friendly and a lovely person. I think she’s attractive, but I can see why people call her cute. She hates bugs, loves cute things, odd thoughts... feels like an aunt to me.
Very bad at reading kanji, not that she’s good at anything else. Likes to practice, hence preserved her way in the Mario Kart tournament. Does talk and ASMR streams with a third of her viewers being women. Likes Mirei, makes sense. Oh, she’s a nudist.
And don’t forget the relationship between Kana and her. Purported to be the most real of the ships of any vtubers. I believe it’s called Crossick. I don’t know too much.
Gwelu Os Gar - Presenter for the elf kingdom, hired as a presenter, since Nijisanji got so big and there’s only so many Kakeru around. Unfortunately seen as boring, and transitioned into kind of a Maimoto character.
Already married, I don’t know why that’s significant but there you go. Oh, and an actual dad! That is pretty significant. Although Setsuna also has a child, and had to retire to take care of the little baby. Teaches math to others, so that’s cool.
Mashiro - Recent high school graduate. He’s a boy. Yes, he has heels and boobs, but he’s a boy. And yes, he is a bit out there, stealing candies from the office.
Naraka - Another oni, and a loli-baba. Obviously a fan of the fellow oni, Mikoto... which has a queen kid relationship. And yes, her chest is smaller than Mashiro... sad.
Kurusu Natsume - 19-year old college student who likes music and sheep. Very smart and very normal. Has an ASMR test stream, which was pretty fun.
Nijisanji ID 2nd Gen
Rai Galliel - An interdimensional policeman. Likes cheese, but hate porridge due to only eating one for four months. Likes baking, pretty cool personality, if a bit straight edge.
Amicia Michella - A freelance illustrator, so the drawing is superb. Like sleep but also sports. Also penguins. Likes to play horror games pretty calmly. Raises two dogs, well one of them passed away late last year. Sang a 10cm cover?
Miyu Ottavia - A business student, and likes otters and is optimistic. Mostly plays RPG and online multiplayers. Tries to be cool, but look at her! She’s very cute.
Riksa Dhirendra - A 24-year-old freelancer and works as an editor and translator. Looks mean, but is actually a very decent gut. He is pretty competitive. Plays RPG.
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hippychick006 · 4 years
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Look, I’m going to explain something as Misha fans and AA’s do not seem to understand the differences between ‘them’ and ‘us’ They see us as the ‘haters’ and the ‘antis’. I hope this explains at a level they are capable of understanding as I don’t want to resort to having to draw pictures. That won’t be prettyfor anyone.
1. I have not, and will not ever @ Misha directly with hate. I respect the right of his fans to enjoy following him without seeing rabid accounts that don’t even like him try to bring him down.
2. I have not and will not ever comment on one of Misha’s posts no matter how much I disagree with something he says. I respect the right of his fans to enjoy following him without seeing nasty comments in his posts from people that are not even fans of his and post only to twist everything he says into something it isn’t.
3. I have not, and will not ever put anti Misha comments in the pro Misha Collins tags. I respect the right of his fans to enjoy content concerning him, without having to scroll past posts from people that do not like him
4. I have not and will not ever post Jared Padalecki or Jensen Ackles content in Misha Collins tags. I respect the right of Misha Collins fans to enjoy the actor they like without subjecting them to the face of an actor that is not relevant in their tags and that they do not follow or even like
5. I will not ever lie about Misha when I do comment on him. I will never take something out of context or twist the truth in order to make something seem something it is not. If this blog says Misha Collins owns Stands and is a pos for misusing Pride for a non existent ship, then you can 100% bet your life that this blog has done their research and knows this to be true. I do not need to make up lies or bend the truth or take things out of context as he’s done enough things on his own to warrant me having no interest in him as a person.
6. I have not and will not ever start up or get involved in a campaign to get Misha cancelled. I don’t like Misha, I think he’s manipulated some very vulnerable people to his own gain, but unless someone is a complete pos with no redeeming features whatsoever, I don’t believe in the cancel culture
7. I have not and will not ever try to push Jared, Jensen, J2, Sam or Dean onto people that have no interest in him. This blog respects the right of people to like (or dislike) what they want and they deserve to do that in peace. On that note I have not and will not ever demand that people must like exactly the same things I do otherwise they aren’t a ‘true fan’. I have not and will not ever ask someone for justification why they like/dislike a certain character/actor. I also have not and will not target hater accounts. I block them. I may post a correction if the hater account has lied about something - e.g. saying Jared told a rape joke.
9. This blog has and will get annoyed at fake journalists who write articles and miss Jared out of the article. I will get annoyed at fake journalists who attend 300th episode ceremonies and only post cockles content and completely miss Jared out. I will get annoyed when Creation try to sell a con under the guise of AKF and use a cockles photo in order to do so. I will get annoyed at the unprofessional minion writers, editors and social media who abuse their positions to drive a narrative and erase Jared and I have and will comment on the official social media when this has been done, but the only time I have ever tweeted a writer is to thank them for the episode.
Im sure there’s lots more differences between us, but these are enough for starters. I’ll add on if I think of any more.
Basically, this blog is 95% here for good things like Jared, Jensen, J2 and classic Supernatural. I am not a hater account but neither will I stay silent when a good man is being attacked time and time again by toxic fans and other fans are complicit by their silence or following these toxic accounts. I will also not stay silent when Misha’s fans come out with ridiculous made up statements like ‘Misha is the third lead’ or ‘Misha saved the show’ or ‘Misha is the reason the show lasted 15 years, you should be thanking him’. This blog will always be here for dishing out truth and reality and for respecting 2 men that gave us 20+ years of entertainment including pre Supernatural content.
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wrecked-fuse · 5 years
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Please say that you don’t actually ship fucking b*pper? It’s literally pedophilia. It’s the same thing like with Karen and Billy so pleaaase don’t. It’s disgusting. Yes Billy is 18, but it’s not okay.
anoon im literally so fucking exited about this smol hysteria over my tweet with 1 (one) word lmao
and btw you're contradicting yourself in the last sentence. so if i say that i do ship them what would you do then? call me disgusting pedophile or what huh. it's not some breaking news to someone whos already in the fandom with the most "toxic abusive racist ship shipped by white cis women only" ever —— so lets make the fifth notch on the belt??
(also im just curious is it the same train of thought that brought ppl to conclusion that if you 30+ you cannot ship and, hell, you too old for fandoms [and ooh must not you dare to ship teens ever again], it looks kinda similar to me but i cannot be sure bc def not one of them...aaand if you for some reason think ppl 30+ cannot be in fandoms i forbid you to see any of my art, purely out of solidary with all 25-30+ lol)
but think i got carried away a bit so. what can i say. i def ship harringrove i ship bucklway and im curious about bopper now (its like..you know even if you put * in the middle of the word it wouldn't change anything why so showy anyway it is rhetorical fyi). and tell me why im reading this ask see not some grown person speaking to me but some insulted baby instead whos demands an update on my fandom life like i do owe anything to anyone bc i draw pics and dare me to disappoint you,, that's pretty shitty btw. not speaking of that fact that you anon sound like any harringrove/billy anti telling ppl how you can or cannot ship this or that, and i find it very hypocritical to those who constantly tell antis do mind their business and let ppl ship in fuckin peace lmao. why don't you let ppl ship what they want then even if they don't sure for 100? that is some toxic shit. (was always curious why would antis waste their time on hate, like, don't you have nothing else to do lol. and now i have to waste my fucking bed time typing all this rumbling huh thanks. this also rhetorical)
also. ive never done anything out of spite (in fandoms i mean). and if i was considering if i ever make some art and if i ever post it, now i def am sure that i will, someday, all thanks to this person whoever this rando is but challenge accepted, all typos r mine. thanks ann. (anyway i still wonder why are you close minded that much thinking billy could be only 18. age difference could be changed on both ends fyi. this is also rhetorical)
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and for ps. this is the first and the last time i ever answering this kind of asks and any further asks will be banned right away. spare me from your shit save your time have a good day have a doog night. (there’s also one rhetorical also. its kind of sad that some ppl follow others not for what they do/make in general but only for what they make for specific fandom lol)
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floralkittygambler · 4 years
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Reposting for reasons
Response to Honest’s post here: Doing this to spread this awareness more as I know theres a bit of a rift in the critical community - plus I really fucking go on. Im PISSED and I do apologise however it NEEDS urgent addressing. I know people will hate me for it but Im used to hate and honestly? Hating rather than helping to solve the issue only furthers my fucking point here. So yeah this is so more people are aware (no offense to any of those involved in said rift either, but this is an important message. Thank you for understanding and if I can do anything to make all sides comfortable, then please message me and I’ll do my upmost.) “ More awareness of this is needed. Even if it’s your favourite, you can’t justify their shit but rally against another’s shit. Have people tell you you’re experiences arent real or invalid because, like Husk, people have - in real life - shipped you with someone you are far from comfortable with but you still treat them like a person. Because you have basic respect. And people force you to accept harassment, touching, stalking, advances for THEIR satisfaction. People use you for their fantasies. But you’re just a ‘tsundere’ for it. Or you have addiction issues but people think being with another addict will ‘save’ you because you’re apparently too incompetent to save yourself. Love isnt some magic fuckin cure so stop romanticising it as a fuckin saviour. It’s gross and fuckin creepy. Get stalked and have someone NEVER accept your no just because you show youre still decent enough to not treat them shitty or any different from anyone else. Try having someone way older or way younger (both in morally fucked up ways) advance on you and people encourage that. People you’re supposed to feel safe around.
People touch you when you pull away or show discomfort. Follow you home. Have pictures of you and wont accept you dont like them like that and it’s not ‘playing hard to get’ or ‘the thrill of the chase’. Fuck. OFF. In fact, Im not only disappointed in the fandom. Im disappointed in the entire team who some should know better from their OWN personal experiences - or at least the bare minimal of being a fucking adult. Im disappointed in especially females (sorry idk whether girl or woman is more appropriate here-) who statistically are more likely to have experienced something similar at some point in their lives think this is a cute gay moment. No. Angel is made out as a fucking predator - Im not saying he is, Im saying that his persistence is very fucking unwelcome like one. People like Husk dont need that fucking invasiveness. They/We need patience and someone on our level. Angel’s I know are the fuckin polar opposite - and some of them I know are very sexually harassing, including unwanted touching. It’s a shitty way to present gay people. Gays are fuckin people. Some are cunts and some arent. It’s a HUMAN thing. But considering the shit theyve been subjected to, presenting a gay as a victim only to also show them as a perpetrator is insulting! And for those Ive seen argue this about how people like AD wouldnt know how to express their love normally and whatnot? His pig. His best friend. He’s in his fucking 30s. There are literal real life criminals who get molested as kids and then go on to molest kids. Not all who grow up like that turn into nonces. Stop just fucking STOP justifying and romanticising this bullshit! I used to see the good in AD but now he makes me fucking sick. Especially with my verrrrrry fucking real traumas and connections. But fuck me, eh? Because this fictional guy matters so much more. Fuck real victims. And whilst we’re at it, fuck AD too when it suits your fetishes! Sarcasm aside, the fans and the team need to straighten up their abhorrent behaviour. Stolas. Fucking clearly having an affair, knowingly fucking up his daughter’s mental health and bribing a guy into sex who only wants the book and nothing more. He even has a fucking warning button over Stolas- Guys, how do you think any of this is cute? Even the team gross me out- I genuinely see potential and talent and it’s all gone to shit to satisfy horny teens, horny adults, and literally everyone who doesnt for the life of them understand being an adult is more than sex, drugs, violence and swears! I REALLY want to keep enjoying HB/HH but it’s getting harder and harder with such ignorant and bordering lazy creators (note: lazy as in wont do the fucking research or actually listen to real criticism and victims), such despicable fans (yeah, some HDers fuckin mocked that they triggered my ED, yet they had the fucking NERVE to support Angel’s potential ED AND laugh and blame me for me getting treated so badly for actually having the balls to call Angel and the teams hypocrisy. I got told to kill myself, that my problems arent real - oh but Angels apparently is! Which... They *are* but AD isnt real so technically only onlookers will suffer and not a drawing  - and they just excused their toxic behaviours. These people are like “aww poor angie babey!” yet fuckin INSULT sex workers. All this red in Hazbin yet it feels everyone and they mama colour blind. The issues are getting worse and fans are outright becoming EVIL, VILE, Vindictive little bullies - from kids to adults. You SHOULD be ashamed of yourself if you conduct yourself in such a manner. And you need to readjust your attitudes and behaviours because the only fuckers getting hurt are actual fucking victims. Ever been violated and been gaslit so much you STILL fucking question it’s reality? So you drown that shit out yet somehow it’s effects still hit you? Fetishise it. Make it your uwu gae couple goals, you’re no better than people believing Harley and the Joker werent toxic af. If this shit happened to you, most of you would actually SEE where we’re all coming from. Also, stop making gay a fetish - you’re like those creepy old men in the alley heckling lesbians to make out so they can wank off. Gays, no ALL the LGBT+ are fucking people too. So dont give me that bullshit then start turning everything just gay or just straight to mentally wank off to. It’s degrading and dehumanising. And yes, fiction does effect reality. You crush on a fictional character? Mourn one? Support one? Hell, fuckin jerk off to one - that’s affecting reality. Remember how in fiction all blacks were treated as villians? Look how theyre treated IRL. JAWS, great classic unfortunately their was a spike in shark killings over a fucking movie - the shark in the movie wasnt even real for the most part because they dont behave like that! (Also the animatronic was so shit they genuinely had so many issues - I think they even took to naming each one! Some fun trivia there!). Tiger sharks are more nasty than great whites as tiger sharks will hunt and eat a human. Great whites prefer seals and dislike human flesh, they just mistake us for seals. Hell, theres the toothless basking shark - theyre often SWAM WITH by divers for being so friendly. Yet Jaws made people think all sharks are bloodlusting over humans. Slenderman was created for a fucking contest and that influenced a stabbing (NOT Victor’s fault). Watch a horror movie that isnt based on a real life event and tell me that at least ONE has left you peaking over your shoulder. Stella may be a bitch - we dont know for certain - but try getting cheated on. Y’know what? Try growing up in such a broken home like Octavia. Yeah reaaaaaal fucking cute now, huh? Funny how as well y’all petition for male victims to be taken seriously then laugh when fictional males experience this abuse, further adding to stigma. You can be hit on by the hottest mf on the planet but if you arent interested, that should be respected! Also we’ve all been inspired by at least one fictional character so yeah. Yknow, since I was little Ive been fighting for sex worker and homeless rights. But HH/HB treatment of both leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I’ll still fully support sex workers and the homeless, but that’s the fucking effect this show is having. Bearing in mind I wont ever share everything Ive been through - and I shouldnt fucking have to in order to be believed and validated (obvs proof is required in a legal case but that’s a whole other topic). Why should I share MY fucking pain especially when you fuckers have belittled and triggered it more so? We have our rights to our secrets but fuck ME you lot NEED to start acting appropriately and like decent fucking humans. ‘iTs HeLl’ yeah and welcome to Earth- the team and yourselves live HERE. You obide by THESE rules. And as someone with beliefs (and a LOT of ancient fucking texts and studies on this shit) their Hell isnt even a proper Hell! It’s closer to purgatory and even then it’s not. Regardless, it’s a poorly built world with the lore consistently changing per episode and tweet, with many plot holes, and is apparently easy to get into - even via accidentally watching porn according to a stream. If youre gonna parade youre a fucking expert and research into demonology and use real believed figures, at least get THAT right. In fact, Lucifer and Lilith (and Stolas tbf) are ESPECIALLY risky as theyre a lot more complex than most easy access texts will tell you. Likewise, Stolas’s first introduction and main focus is sex. He’s one of the FEW Goetia demons that dont have some involvement in relationship issues at ALL. He’s known for astrology, crystals and herbs but hes also known to aid MONEY troubles (it’s lesser known but it’s true! HB Stolas is an insult to the Prince). Turning Vodou into something evil is vile considering it’s powerful and liberated slaves. Pentagrams are nothing to do with Satan, they’re magic based sigils. Upside down cross is the symbol of a SAINT. It’s just some edgy attempt to trick people into believing they know more than they do. Also you should NEVER dabble and doodle sigils without knowing the meanings or respecting what they behold. Vox and Val, real fuckin cute way to make them look like a stupid fucking highschool drama instead of a fucking SEX TRAFFICKER (note: real pimps often target YOUNG folks too - aka minors - and groom them into sex work. Theres different types of pimp. Viv has shown barely any understanding of ‘the game’ and its a fucking insult to injury. Yes we KNOW what a fucking pimp and prozzie are! We dont need to see it. We need REAL AWARENESS.) and a fucking scheming bastard of a CEO salesman botman. And yet even THEN lets go a step further and make some yandere wuv on boyfweind aboose! Fuck off- Now I love a good anime but these tropes are getting fucking dangerous now. And unrealistic to real love and relationships. Kids nowadays know fuck all on a healthy relationship (neither did the fuckin 50s tbf) and Im seeing more romaticism and glorifying abusive situations. Like the show ‘You’. Ok, there’s a fuckin bloke online who slaughtered innocents and kidnapped yet people commented how cute he is on his IG and that they want to be kidnapped or killed by him next. Dont believe me? Look up Peter Manfredonia Connecticut and the comments people left him and then tell me why shit like whats being presented in HH/HB ISNT fucking concerning - because it is. For a series about redemption, it’s brilliant at the opposite (Quote from the creator herself, Viv has posted that it’s influencing her bad choices. Even as a joke, proof’s in the pudding). And the overall focus on sex in the way Viv does is so immature and really creepy, and this is from an ADULTS perspective. From one adult to another, Im concerned as to why any of them think this is a normal fixation. Then again they’ve hired quite a large amount of dodgy folks and even a child. Most of this shit gets avoided with a basic background check like most companies run. I DO like Hazbin. Or the premise. I love some of the cast and spite the others. In Helluva, I just like a tiny portion of the cast. And I critique it so harshly because Viv DOES need a wakeup slap, grounding to reality, people who arent going to big her up or kiss her arse for once and shape her up to be the best she can be. The actually reach and even surpass her potential. And to reach where you need to be, there’s a lot of harsh lessons youll face. That’s life. Shes chosen one of the most HEARTLESS industries and if she blocks out critique as ‘hate’ then she’s not strong enough and wont last. It’s just another unprepped YanDev again (except I dont believe Viv to be a nonce. Even with her dodgy past and dodgy present, I think her perspective on sex and relationship with sexuality is FAR from healthy BUT I dont believe she’s a pedophile. Ive bled my fair share and so far, I just think her sex perspective isnt healthy or mature for her age. But there’s little to nothing to suggest actual noncery - dont worry about accusations there. But YanDev is totally a dirty predator. Just clearing that up). Viv NEEDS some harshness and stability if she wants to do things right. And it’ll make her fucking cry but if she loves these projects as much as she claims to, then you’ll sacrifice blood, sweat and tears for that shit. Even the strongest points are mediocre at best when properly observed. She CAN do more, but she’ll have to face the harsh music. Viv wont see this, but if she does, I dont care if it upsets her. Why? Because this is that much of an issue - something she’s cultivated - that she needs to take action and not ignore it or be secretive about it. She needs to grow up and get tougher skin. Im not saying this to cause her pain. In fact, I wouldnt waste my fucking limited time if I DIDNT care. Trust me, I have duties to be met at a certain quota every single day. I say this shit only because I give a shit and care. If we met, she’d fucking hate me. But people like me are good for shaping people up to their potential. And we arent always this ‘tough love’ either. But when someone needs that level of harshness to help themselves, we’re not afraid to lose people or cause upset if the results end up being the best for them. If she ever saw this, she needs to re fucking evaluate her message, her story, and those she’s choosing to welcome into her circle. And all Im seeing is one rookie mistake after the other. Her paid patreon discord. Just like the messages Honest has posted on her side of being harassed (not in Vivs fyi), Ive experienced shit and bullying and even stay silent on their for being attacked for a group I fuckin paid to be in and yet I feel isolated. It’s all arsekissing and ‘thank you viv’ (thats an actual channel-) and it feels like a place of borderline worship and people trying to appease her 24/7 whilst kicking others with different opinions down. There’s so many I love but I aint kissin yer fuckin arse. Ask the closest friend I have - we’re fucking raw and wont just side with each other just because. We’ll call each other out if we think they’ve fucked up and then help each other build themselves up better. Because real fuckin people who actually care wont just want to be adored by you. They’ll care enough to point out your bullshit and help you, even if they upset you at the time. They’re real and upfront with you. People like us arent always the easiest to be close to either because we arent afraid of upsetting someone if it’s in their best interest and to help them. Likewise, we dont go out looking for fights either. Most times, we’re fuckin soft bastards- All this shit listed is the fuckin surface level of the real life hell of this fandom. And unsurprisingly, those who experience little to no toxicity have always been higher on that popularity ‘food chain’ - enough admirers and shared opinions that people wanna arse kiss regardless of their OWN feelings as well as neutral perspectives. I’d say you’re the lucky fans, but you’re not. You’re sheltered, and that isnt always the best way to be sadly. As for the fans. If Ive upset you. Well... I dont care. Because many of you have actively sought me out and weaponised my traumas against me. You never cared about my feelings then. Why should I care about yours? Im not doing this out of malice. Im fed up of humans behaving so pathetically yet claiming to be high and mighty. Most of you have been arseholes to those in and out of the community. The victims and non-victims alike. Hardly any of you considered once my real suffering. You put a drawing over a life. Many lives. You had the audacity to tell me Im full of shit. Some even using my real traumas to make a mockery of me and those Im around with a very similar history. Some with traumatic histories that differ from my own. You hardly ever considered the real lives of those effected. So no, Im not sorry for having the fucking balls to this day to still stand up for our rights and give us a voice that’s long been stolen. Im not sorry for being a fucking victim. Im not sorry for saying what desperately NEEDS voicing. And Im not sorry for not conforming to you or any fandom just to belong. We deserve better than to constantly be your fuckin arse monkeys (well... the trope is butt monkey but yknow-) and to be mistreated, misrepresented and harmed by you. You’re no different to the school bullies who give speeches on anti-bullying day. And I hope every single one of you starts looking into yourselves and improving. PS: Depending on the texts you read, Lucifer is said to have been redeemed or to be redeemed. Fun fact to haunt yalls with~ “
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cindiquilsnivy · 5 years
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Fandom hate and ship hate
So before I actually write anything about what I actually want to say I need to clarify this,  I do enjoy reading facebook comments and arguments in generally just because sometimes the responses on both sides are hilarious .  My personality type is a mediator and according to my zodiac chart as well.  It honestly makes me upset more than anything to see this  regardless of what I ship.  
The main point I am trying to say is that No one is going to be on your side if you force something down their throat.  I have seen lgbt people called homophobic for liking a straight ship it is a BIG issue.  It also really needs to be addressed there are posts/tweets/theories with nothing about shipping and somehow they end up having comments turning them into shipping things when that was not the intention.  Right now if I was to write a theory I would try to base it off of every interview game and article i've seen not my own personal opinions.
Another fun fact: I used to feel ok with soriku, yes it was more like a brotp which to me it still is, however due to the constant negativity I have seen I no longer am “ok” with it.  The toxic fans Have ruined it for me.  
Going on the tag and seeing at least 70% of the posts be about a ship regardless of the popularity is not right.  Even when shipping is not the focus of the series.  I have seen people say they want a certain character dead because they want their way or no way.  That is not right either.  Saying something is cannon and basing it off of no research is not good because not only is that spreading misinformation but it is creating false expectations for many fans and in the long run it is only going to make things worse.  I have seen some amazing people that ship soriku and are respectful to not only me but others as well I wish more people could be like them.  
By writing this i am not saying it only exists from one side because i have only seen it from one side im drawing based on this.  Im pretty sure it happens from both sides as well.  
Recently an amazing artist was told to stop drawing a ship because one person did not like it.  As an artist myself that is disgusting that something like that would happen.  If you don’t like it than unfollow them dont constantly spout hate and say that they are wrong.  
I know a lot of my mutuals put up with alot of my nonsense on here I am sorry about it but this is something that can be said in any fandom because I have even seen things like this in the pokespe fandom now as small as it is.   
I am not homophobic in any way that is another claim i have heard against people who ship “straight” pairings.  “Well you could be lying”  I am not I ship LeaIsa too even though I am quiet about it.  I have many LGBT friends and even a few family members who are lgbt.  Just because I dont yell my lungs out about it does not mean I love them any less or do not support them.   I know there are many cases where it is brought up and people can not really cite any evidence.  However I can,  as humans we are conditioned by the institutions around us and we are all born with a positive outlook on everyone.  There is a story about a little girl going into target and the cashier asking her about the doll she is getting because the doll is african american and the little girl is white,  the girl says something along the lines that yes this is the doll i want because she is pretty like me.  
It is a learned condition to hate anyone in the world.  Hate is so widespread today that it is disturbing and needs to be helped.    Do i think all hate can be eradicated?  No but it helps to start trying to abolish some of the hate ourselves starting with our fandoms.  
There are people here that are in abusive situations and use their fandoms as a way that they can feel happiness.  I know they need help out of said situations but really if you are willing to attack the fandoms that they are hiding in it will not help.  
This is common sense people it is something i try to do on my page and it is one of the reasons why I remain completely neutral on the topic in some cases.  More than likely you are there for the actual series not the ships and if you are there just for the ship than you may need to reevaluate your love for the series.   You should be happy regardless of what happens just be happy for the characters if you can’t accept something yourself.  
Hate is something that many people run away from but here I am throwing myself right back in the middle of a ship war.   Why exactly? I’m tired of people acting immature about the whole situation.  I care about other people’s mental state that is why I am doing this.  I have seen so many people want to avoid everything altogether instead of addressing it like I am doing now.  If someone has anything to say about it my ask box is open and i hope you like making your stance public as well.  
 I really do thank you for taking the time to read this and please take this to heart.  
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I want to actively encourage people to write fanfiction about media they enjoy. It’s an important outlet for mental health to some writers, and besides being a way to cope with their real life issues it’s also a good way to develop your creative writing skills and gain valuable experience. Fan-Made content such as fanfiction and fanart do a wonderful job of elaborating on character experiences, developing a deeper connection to said characters, and keeping the worlds of books, movies, television, and other media alive long after they’ve concluded.
Real-life fanfiction, on the other hand, does not fall into the typical fandom expression. Harry Potter is a fictional character, who has fictional feelings and exists in a fictional world that can be changed and molded as a fanfiction author desires. As long as you’re not selling this work, no one is going to be hurt by it. Daniel Radcliffe is an actual breathing human who has actual real life relationships, emotions, and his own life to live. It’s one thing to write nsfw fanfiction about Harry and Ron in a timeline where Hermione and Ginny aren’t interested, and another to write fanfiction about Daniel Radcliffe and Rupert Grint; especially when you’re sharing it directly to the people you’re writing about. I see this behavior all the time, especially in boyband fandoms like the One Direction fandom; where casual “shipping” of band members has lead to harassment and sending disgusting explicit fanart and fanfiction to the celebrities, their family, and people they care about. Louis Tomlinson has a child, and there are still members of the One Direction fandom that send him nsfw work depicting him having sex with Harry Styles and claiming his breathing, living, child is a fake publicity charade to hide their secret gay relationship. Not only is this insulting to both of them, and probably placing strain on their relationship and mental health, it’s a horribly delusional practice being upheld by the people saying “its just fanart/fanfiction/shipping and it’s harmless”. It stopped being harmless when you’re tweeting telling a celebrity his child is fake. It stopped being harmless when you started sending explicit art to a celebrity depicting them having sex with a friend/costar/coworker. It stopped being harmless when it began affecting their relationships with the people around them.
Draw your art, write your fanfiction. I understand that it’s a coping mechanism, as harmful as it is, and you may be using it to deal with your own stress. But keep it to your self and your fandom tags. Stop spreading false rumors about people’s children and romantic relationships. Stop sending people you supposedly idolize art that shows them in sexually explicit situations they’re probably uncomfortable.
Fandoms are fun. Toxic fandoms are gross. Learn to see the difference and correct disgusting behaviors.
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be-side-my-self · 2 years
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Just need to rant a bit, everyone feel free to ignore it, I‘m basically answering the anon from another blog how I actually want to answer them.
Hey, I'm sorry you searched for your OTP and found my blog with some points against your ship.
But congratulation on shitting into my inbox.
You come into my inbox and throw into my face that I like tweets against your ship? Congratulations for being obsessed like that? Would you prefer I retweeted them? I don‘t do that FOR A REASON. Because I don‘t want my followers to see „ship xy sucks and ship yz is so much better!“ but I want to show OP „hey! Here is a twitter for your ship! Maybe follow?“ and if they do, maybe they see next time I write:
„DON‘T ENGAGE! DON‘T GO TO WAR! STOP THE WANK!“
Because believe it or not, I don‘t fucking control the fandom. Everyone is a fucking individual. Fuck, I‘m not even the most popular twitter account for my ship!
No matter how many events I organise, how many tweets I retweet, how many facts and pictures I post, I only reach a fracture of the shippers.
But at least I try!
Because dude I‘m in this fandom for more than 15 years, and more than ten with the ship. I've written hundred thousands of words about them. I've written essays and fanfictions and headcanons.
Meanwhile I've seen ships come and go. I have seen fans come and go. I have seen people trying to attack my ship and all they got was getting fucking ripped a new one!
I stayed.
I continued to organise to be there, to interact to write and draw...
And still after all these years I fucking try to be better.
I started with the usual „what?! Why would you ship two guys?! They aren‘t gay!! They hate each other!!“ and now I‘m at „You want ro headcanon my otp as T4T and gay? Sure. Go for it! As long as you have fun who am I to judge?“
I went from „ugh, my NoTP is so fucking annoying and I want to tell everyone who ships it that they are wrong!“ to „ship and let ship.“
And still not once did I come to someones in-box and told them annoying shit.
I AM SUPPOSED TO STAY IN MY LINE?!
GET A FUCKING GRIP, KID!
You say you like the ship? Then go and enjoy it without the „toxic fans“. Because that is possible, smarty!!!
NO ONE IS MAKING YOU GO THROUGH OTHER PEOPLES LIKES.
Just look for fanart just look for fanfiction and don't fucking engage. It's that simple!
And if you don't like that than you obviously don't like the ship so just own up to your opinion and say as it is!
AND DON'T COME AT ME WITH OLD NEWS! Jesus christ, you want to fight toe to toe?! Come to my level first, you fucking beginner.
I have better arguments against my ship than any of you little wankers. And you know why? I have reread the fucking source material multiple times! Reread it every single time I had to figure something out!
You hate us fans? WELL NEWSFLASH: Trolls are invading our ranks, your ranks and everyones ranks! Do you know how often I asked someone to stop to be assholes under NoTP posts and then they outright said they aren't even in support of ANY SHIP?!
TOO OFTEN.
GO OUT AND LEARN FIRST! You want to argue against a fucking professor with your fist class education?!
Dude you can only wish for my fucking dedication.
And then I hope you never get it because I put too much time into this bullshit. Into lines and colours and pixels. Holy fuck it's not real.
You see something you don't like? Take a fucking breather and move on. Don't try to swim with the sharks you baby.
god damn it.
And then probably the same person comes into my in box again and goes "hey, you think the author though lol those stupid xyz shippers again"
NO! I DON'T THINK THAT. THE AUTHOR DOES NOT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE SHIPPERS! THERE ARE TOO MANY!
THERE ARE HUNDRED OF CHARACTERS. EVERYONE IS SHIPPED WITH EVERYONE!
The author does not give a rats ass!!!
And I won't answer your troll attempt I won't let someone call the shippers of the other ship idiots on my blog when I try to keep peace.
FUCKER.
Call me "sanctimonious" all you want. I know what and why I am doing it.
God damn fandom kids. Get out! Touch grass! Enjoy the wind and calm the fuck down.
Jesus christ.
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The Voltron Thing
I don't often talk about Voltron. I think I only have the one post on it, and really the post more addresses the archetypal look for the moody character in basically everything (I'm talking about Nico di Angelo and Keith looking incredibly similar). I do watch Voltron, and for the most part enjoy it. I don't post about it because, to be completely honest, the majority of the fandom is very toxic and just kind of terrifying. If you want to disagree, I want to remind you that I was once told to kill myself for saying Keith was my favorite character (I've got a thing for broken boys with daddy issues, bite me) and have been repeatedly verbally abused for saying that I thought Pidge's gender was up for interpretation. I also once had a girl rant and scream at me (about how klance was superior after I mentioned that for the most part I'm a multishipper) until I literally had an anxiety attack. And of course, these are just some of the things I have personally experienced. That's not including the many shipping wars (which I've seen have included accusations of pedophilia, death threats, homophobic/transphobic remarks and accusations, etc.), the verbal abuse of actors and writers, the verbal abuse of other fans, death threats towards fandom creators and towards the original creators, and blackmail. Fucking blackmail. My point is I don't normally touch the Voltron fandom or go any where near it. BUT after watching the newest season and after repeated messages with /demands/ (not asking or requesting- but demanding) and several threats (like seriously? What the actual fuck guys, calm down its a cartoon), I will talk about some of the issues I have with the newest season.
Also- this thing is weird and rambly because I'm not gonna put more effort into this. I made this purely because it was demanded and to address some issues, not with the show but with everything going on around the show.
Spoilers, you've been warned.
We're gonna start with the thing that has broken flipping tumblr, Adam. To be honest, I stay away from most of the side content and promotional material and prefer to let the show speak for itself. However, the adashi/shadam ship blew up everywhere (seriously, I couldn't go on Instagram for weeks without seeing it) and I finally tracked down the information because I was major league confused on where nerdy boy appeared from. Adam's death wasn't what I was expecting, but it happened? Would I have loved to see him alive and have a happy Shiro for once? Yes. Am I going to attack the creators and accuse them of homophobia? No. To be honest: I'm holding my judgment on Adam and Shiro until after Season 8 (and yes, I do plan to watch season 8) BECAUSE we don't know what they have planned. Knowing the creators and the style of Voltron, I do think we will be getting more of Shiro and Adam's backstory and more of their relationship pre-Kerberos. I think the major thing I was disappointed by was the lack of confirmation from the show itself on the nature of Shiro and Adam's relationship, but again, I'm waiting for season 8 to make my conclusion on the adashi situation.
The thing that bothered me: the randomly thrown in hetero ships. Has there been teasing for klance? Yes, but to be honest, I never actually expected them to confirm it. I don't expect klance to become canon. And I'm okay with that, I'm a mature adult and I can enjoy my ships without them being canon. No need to blackmail people or harass them. No need to send pointed tweets or nasty emails. (Am I salty? Yes.) (And honestly, I'm more interested in Keith and Lance's individual chracter developments than their love lives.) Hell, I don't even care if they date other people. What bothered me was the thrown in ships. This is a thing a lot of shows do that I have complained about time and again. They kinda go 'oh shit, need love interest. Hey this persons single! They'll be perfect!' And then throw then together in the most awkward way. Acxa got the redemption she fucking deserved! And then they threw her and Keith together. Allura has been ignoring Lances flirty nature all this time, but oh no the show is ending soon and Lotors gone. I'm not gonna flip out though (it's a cartoon, not the end of the world). However, I will summarize my thoughts in this: If a show decides to disregard a hinted at queer couple in favor of 2 hetero couples, at least let them make sense and have actual tension. BUT I say this knowing that there is 1 more season and this relationships have not been fully confirmed. Do I think klance will be canon? Probably not. But I hope for a more open ended solution, without confirmed relationship in which the viewer what they believed happened.
Now this is where people are going to call me out and retaliate saying that I don't care about media representation- in which you would be wrong. I'm not going to sit and defend myself about this, because you probably don't know me and I owe you nothing. I would love for more queer representation- I would love for more queer couples. Yes, Adam died, but I don't think it was meant to be anything more than a tool for Shiro's growth and it falls in line with Shiro's story line. I do not believe it was meant to in any way be a message about lgbt couples or individuals. Adam was just meant to be a casualty of war to make the show more impactful.
Do I think there has been queer baiting? Yes and no. Klance has been hinted at and talked about and there was a lot of hype about Adam. Being fair- a lot of these came from the fandom? Shiro's given a boyfriend we know nothing about and the fandom blows up and dies. Every time Keith are seen together on screen or in promotional material people screech about Klance. Shiro is shown in promotional material with Adam because leaving Adam behind only to return and find him fucking dead is huge to his development- it's promotional material meant to draw you in so you wnat to know more. Keith and Lance are shown a lot. Well: 1. Most recognizable characters, 2. Have had major character development and have at times been the main driving plot of the show, 3. To someone who has some how been unaware of the Voltron disaster over the last couple years, showing them the shows 2 pretty boys is gonna draw them in. I don't think it has been purposeful 'queer baiting'.
And, if we're going to talk about the representation issues, let's talk about how the fandom represents themselves. Cause you know if I wasn't part of the queer community and didn't know a whole lot about the community and only saw queer kids harassing adults on social media, blackmailing companies, and sending threatening emails over a gay couple, I wouldn't be thinking too highly of the queer community. And then that puts creators in a bad position because if they give in? Theyre just catering to these people. If they don't? They're homophobic and enforcing heteronormativity. Like wtf did you expect? I constantly wonder what this show could have been if the creators weren't having to deal with such a toxic fandom. When you do these things you are representing yourself, your age group, the fandom, and the queer community. You are a representation worse than this show could ever be.
Which leads me to my biggest complaint: the fandom. Obviously, ive already touched on this (a lot), but my god, is it bad. I go on Twitter and see tweets to Lauren, and thw actors. I see people with pictures of long, threatening emails. I see kids, and yes I'm saying kids because everytime I look its someone between the ages of 13 and 16, making scathing remarks and accusing people of being homophobic. Not even talking about the crap that's happened in previous years and seasons, this fandom disgusts me. I woke up this morning to fucking messages with demands that I talk about this. I know and follow so many creators who refuse to create for the Voltron fandom because it's so endlessly toxic. I don't know if you think you're cool or powerful or whatever for accusing and threatening but you're not. You just look stupid for throwing a fit over a cartoon originally aimed at kids. Also like saying youre not gonna watch the last season because you didnt get the ending you wanted? Really?
I had more to say but I'm done. This whole post has put me in a bad mood but I'm going to leave with this: if you really cared about lgbt representation or lgbt rights, you wouldn't be complaining about a cartoon to a bunch of people just doing their jobs. You're just upset the show didn't go how you wanted, get over it. I'm sick of seeing people attacked for nothing. Y'all are toxic and need to learn some manners.
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The Problem of Notables
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by Alex McNabb
The far-right has been plagued for years by a problem many are aware of but too few are capable of articulating with any nuance. There have been a few clumsy memes and some grumblings about the worst of the bad actors, and precious little else. I’m talking of course about the toxicity and stumbling blocks created by the various narcissistic grifters that glom onto broader political movements like so many egomaniacal barnacles on the hull of a vastly larger ship. Like any infestation of parasites, they drag down the host and divert limited energies into unproductive directions. How can you develop influence over political outcomes if your “leaders” are just siphoning off resources and attacking each other more than the real enemy?
History is just repeating itself again though, and a veteran of the Algiers Putsch named Dominique Venner wrote about this over 50 years ago in an essay called “For a Positive Critique“. I consider the writing to be a seminal treatise that accomplishes exactly what the title suggests: It’s a check-list of pitfalls for right-wing nationalistic movements to avoid. He even specifically names the type of archetype causing these problems, referring to them as “Notables”.
What is a “Notable”?
Venner draws a strict distinction between “notables” and “militants”. Militants are the rank and file footsoldiers of any political movement, the boots on the ground, the ones that actually get shit done. The militant is committed to achieving tangible political goals and is guided by an over-arching doctrine. He doesn’t follow a man, he follows an idea.
The “notable” on the other hand is simply a highly visible person who makes all the right noises. He isn’t someone that’s risen into his position in the limelight through hard work; this is an “idea man”, and an opportunistic one at that. Notables are self-aggrandizing narcissistic conmen not altogether different from aspiring cult-leaders. How many of their beliefs are genuine and which number are simply the exponent of calculating which buttons to push for maximum attention is a subject ripe for speculation.
I think our modern internet age and social media environs increasingly favor the ascendance of these characters by providing them with a ready platform and access to willing sycophants. Any idiot with a microphone and webcam can now start collecting upvotes from credulous political partisans desperate for “content”. There are plenty of decent individuals out there exploring right-wing issues purely out of their passion for the subject, but these creators generally aren’t going out of their way to cause problems.
Characteristics of the Notable
Notables are fortunately not that difficult to identify and separate from the honest community members. I think there’s a few dead give-aways that should make you intensely suspicious of any public figure exhibiting these traits.
1. Lack of real world accomplishments.
A notable usually doesn’t “do things”, they “say things”. They’re good at saying things; they have a lot of “verbal virtuosity” and stage presence. Your average E-celeb is just someone with the free time to live-action shitpost about controversial rightwing political topics. A significant proportion of them are relatively young, unmarried, childless and just stumbled into 5 minutes of YouTube fame. They tend to lack the sorts of careers that would distract them from camping out in the most active areas of the online map, always looking to increase their audience while simultaneously e-begging for a big enough revenue stream to make adult obligations irrelevant. Leaders start organizing people in the real world, notables engage in mythomania and talk of revolutions that will never come. Does anyone wanna follow a guy that’s never even worked an actual job?
2. Disregard for their own followers and fellow travelers.
As Venner states in his essay, the Notable believes the “militants are an inferior class”, and “are only the rank and file to be used for political struggles”. There are sadly enough literal examples of this type of thinking in alt-right politics among would be “leaders”. To these careerists their audience is an expendable resource to be burned whenever it is convenient to them. They are not personally invested at all in the sorts of people giving them a platform beyond the most short-sighted material benefits and attention. Individuals that should be viewed at least nominally as allies are verbally assaulted, “doxxed” or otherwise discarded as “enemies” for any perceived slight, no matter how minor. The underlying dogma is that their fragile egos matter more than any over-arching political aims or goals.
3. Immoral behavior.
Notables are capricious narcissists. Like any garden variety dirtbag, they’re slaves to the basest of human impulses. Womanizing, embezzling, disloyalty, substance abuse, cowardice, and general shittiness dominate their most visible traits. Unsurprisingly, when caught in some misdeed, these are also the first to snitch and roll over to the police. These are the types of greaseballs that bemoan the loss of morality in western society before trying to seduce their “best friend’s” wife. Beyond the usual assortment of skeletons in anyone’s closet, these types have veritable graveyards full of the bones of a lifetime of underhanded back-stabbing and conscience-free living. If they mistreat their own friends, romantic partners and family, then how can you expect them to do any less to allies and followers in a political movement?
4. Inability to evaluate their own audience.
A more nuanced tell is the notable, like any real narcissist, can burn any level of human garbage to fuel his own ego. All fans are equally valuable regardless of how demonstrably unstable and toxic these demographics might be. A notable doesn’t care if he’s followed by a 15 year old edge-poster or a middle class married man with 5 kids, so long as his ego is being stroked, it doesn’t matter who does the stroking. To the Notable, the adoration of a kissless, forever-alone incel is a heady intoxicant capable of propelling him to dizzying heights of hubris. Sycophancy over substance is the rule, not the exception to the Notable’s cloister.
5. Theatrical revolutionaries
While Venner uses this term generally to refer to any LARPer living out their personal fantasies, one should be on guard in particular against “leaders” that insist on “dressing in a costume called a uniform”. These are profoundly unserious people that have confused a political movement with a Neo-Nazi version of Comic-Con. Dressing up like Hollywood villains is a great way to convince everyone you’re either a clown or a provocateur on the Federal payroll.
This has to stop
All of this matters because of the very real damage these grifters inflict on our fledgling right-wing movements. By engaging in unceasing purity spirals and infighting, these maniacs drive away reasonable, normal human beings capable of generating real political capital. I believe these pathological tendencies are worsened by the online echo-chambers where ego-maniacal leaders and their dysfunctional followers can insulate themselves into thoroughly self-destructive trajectories. Any self improvement is sacrificed for the soothing of individual egos. Overall success has been hamstrung over and over by the crab-bucketing of jealous narcissists more worried about their own self-aggrandizement than cooperating with their peers.
These are the team-killers, the griefers that ruin cohesiveness and collective strength because they’d rather see it all burn than watch someone else take the glory. How many times has a personal beef or spergcel hatred of a particular figure lead to an outcome that effectively set the broader movement back as a whole? Have we not seen entire organizations destroyed by short-sighted, shameful behavior from the leadership? Is it worth it to tolerate someone that will inevitably betray his friends? It’s time to put our hard-earned lessons to work and leave the Notables behind as we move forward into an increasingly perilous time in global politics.
To do that we must demand more from a leader than simply being a posturing mouth-piece. The leader must work for us as an avatar of our collective will, someone willing to sacrifice their own petty ego for the good of the whole. They are responsible for the lives of many and must act like it. “Leading by example” isn’t just a trite catch-phrase; anyone in this position should be an inspiration, not a cautionary tale.
Stop giving oxygen and audiences to swindlers; just let that bad fruit wither on the vine.
“Zero plus zero always equals zero. The addition of mythomaniacs, plotters, nostalgics, careerists, and “nationals” will never yield a coherent force. Preserving the hope of uniting the incapable is to persevere in error. The few elements of value are paralyzed by the cranks that surround them.”
-Dominique Venner
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WATCH: Insider Leaks Tillerson Preparing To Blindside Trump With Big News
We’ve all been thinking Attorney General Jeff Sessions is a lock to be the next Team Trumper to leave the Trump administration, but he’s got a new, equally likely challenger: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Breaking reports indicate that Tillerson is FED UP with the unhinged chaos within Donald Trump’s White House.
Per a new bombshell from CNN, “Tillerson is expressing growing frustration with the Trump administration and may be considering resigning from his role […] Though the former CEO of ExxonMobil Corp. has said that he would stay on as the top U.S. diplomat until the end of the year at least, several anonymous sources told CNN over the weekend that he might leave earlier than that.”
Yikes. There’s no other conclusion to draw other than the fact that Donald Trump’s administration is an absolute dumpster fire right now.
According to these insider sources, one of the things that’s really set Tillerson off is Trump’s recent scathing public attacks against his own attorney general, Jeff Sessions. Tillerson’s reportedly been disturbed over Trump’s “friendly fire,” so he’s getting close to the point where’s had enough.
This mounting frustration meshes with what we heard last month, when news broke that Tillerson lost it and began screaming at White House personnel director Johnny DeStefano over staffing disputes in the State Department. Trump promised Tillerson free reign to pick his staff when he signed on, but DeStefano was trying to micro-manage Tillerson’s appointments.
“The episode stunned other White House officials gathered in chief of staff Reince Priebus’ office, leaving them silent as Tillerson raised his voice,” Politico reports. “In the room with Tillerson and DeStefano were Priebus, top Trump aide Jared Kushner and Margaret Peterlin, the secretary of state’s chief of staff.”
“It was the loudest manifestation yet of how frustrated Tillerson is in his new role,” Politico continues. “He has complained about White House attempts to push personnel on him; about the president’s tweets; and about the work conditions in a West Wing where he sometimes finds loyalty and competence hard to come by.”
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But can you blame the guy for wanting out? The conditions inside the White House are so toxic right now that ALL of Trump’s cabinet members surely have strong doubts about their futures in his administration.
First it was Press Secretary Sean Spicer, and now Tillerson and Sessions look to be next. Team Trump is falling apart right in front of our very eyes.
Get out while you still can—that’s what we say. There’s no point in sticking around on a sinking ship, which Team Trump so clearly is.
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Team Trump is getting more and more desperate every day, which means we’ll still see plenty of fireworks in the coming weeks. We can only imagine what’s will happen next.
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