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dippydots · 11 months
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Extremely silly 1970s space opera au
(The lady next to Cathy is her vampire gf Vanessa)
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torridaffair · 13 days
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i’ll never shut up about the way that cathy sr decided to call herself catherine heathcliff for her own personal enjoyment and how later on her daughter cathy jr was forced to bear the name catherine heathcliff when she married linton
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(also would appreciate a in explanation cuz i find this very interesting)
((also reblog for sample size please))
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something about Emily Brontë ending with Wuthering Heights, a novel about obsession and revenge and how it does no one good, with Hareton and Catherine - two extremely wronged characters, Hareton especially - rising above their circumstances and getting married just scratches my brain right
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timbourinedrake · 1 year
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Drawing parallels between Bruce's grief over Jason and Heathcliff mourning Cathy. The destruction of self and everyone around them, the guilt of feeling responsible for their death and being haunted by it every waking moment.
The same comparison can be made with Cathy and Jason if you really dig in to it, the two being complex characters who are so full of life and passion that they can't help but leave a lasting mark on everyone who meets them. Despite the pain Gotham caused Jason, he still loves it and is drawn to it and is almost the very personification of the city, much like Catherine has the very spirit of Wuthering Heights within her.
'Why am I so changed? Why does my blood rush into a hell of tumult at a few words? I'm sure I should be myself were I amongst the heather on those hills' Jason's return to Gotham almost reflects the same sentiment as this, he's trying to return to the person he once was, return to a time where he was happier without the anger and trauma he carries now.
Both stories show how easily love and hate can get twisted, how love isn't always positive, that sometimes it can be a destructive, obsessive force. It would be better for them to let the love go and move on, but instead they'd rather watch the other burn, because love is misery and if they do not suffer- is that really love?
#Jason and Cathy my favourite 'doomed by the narrative' girlies <33#all this being said Jason and Bruce and fundamentally good people so they are not comparable to Cathy and Heathcliff in that way#But Bruce did kind of go mad in his grief and DID turn very violent towards criminals much like heathcliff to Isabella/Linton#Also all the shit Heathcliff did. to Catherine jr#tho you could argue that also reflects how Bruce pushed Tim away#(we are ignoring the Bruce slapping Dick ok)#Also obsessed with the concept of a character haunting the narrative#Are they a literally ghost haunting them? or are they simply a figment from a mind filled with grief?#at the end of the day it doesn't matter because they still have such a strong presence on the narrative and the characters#Jason and Cathy are just so similar to me#less in personality and more in their narrative#if that makes sense#because they both come from awful homes and are 'rescued' by being brought into a rich and loving environment#and it's all good but the grip from their home never loosens and they are eventually called back to their true home#Then there's also the comparison where both characters would rather see their love ones suffer and be miserable then be happy#after their death#the difference in that is that Jason feels that way because when he came back from being dead all he saw was Bruce having moved on#and in Jason's eyes that's a sign of him never having cared. and if Bruce was miserable then that would mean Jason actually mattered to him#whereas Cathy (being a highkey terrible person) predicted that Heathcliff would forget her and actively wished misery upon him before dying#All this being said: Jason would LOVE wuthering heights and he definitely would've ranted about it to whoever would listen#Jason Todd#under the red hood#wuthering heights#Red hood#Batman
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knightsickness · 9 months
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the wuthering heights tag on this site is so painfully sanitised and booktoked discussion of the text is either rendered utterly vacant and shallow or ignored entirely in favour of wuthering heights as a Classic #wutheringheights #janeeyre #thepictureofdoriangray #darkacademia on a post that says some shit like ‘imagine drinking black coffee in the oxford university library… 🤎’. can we talk about the foul celtic knot of incest/pseudoincest between what starts as two families and becomes the family (cathy and heathcliff raised like brother and sister, cathy jr and linton talking about how they wish they were siblings and comparing themselves to mother and son and him being a caricature of her father his actual uncle and then getting married) as a metaphor for corruption through obsessive repetition and sinking rot
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burningvelvet · 7 months
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more rambling thoughts about wuthering heights now that i've finished my re-read
1 wuthering heights is basically the looney tunes if the looney tunes were goth. 90% of the novel is people arguing, dying, and running around threatening to kill each other, and often all three of those at once.
2 love how it's filled with dark humor. "he's such a cobweb, a pinch would annihilate him" is such a camp thing to say about the terminally ill child you abhor and who you spend weeks trying to set up on dates with your dead lover's child so you can steal her property when your son finally dies. heathcliff lecturing his son on Seduction 101 right in front of cathy 2.0, trying ridiculously to play cupid and compel them to fall in love with each other before giving up and just kidnapping her instead... surely he's the most insane brontë man?
3 i can't remember what i had for dinner last night but nelly dean can remember what the weather was like on any given friday twenty years ago (love her and her snarky comments)
4 love how after nelly finishes telling the story to lockwood she's like "any way. so you know cathy 2.0 is single right ;)))" and then cathy 2.0 shows zero interest in him. so then he's like "oh i just remembered i have somewhere to be :/" then fucks off to london for nearly a year then when he comes back nelly is like "nvm as it turns out cathy and hareton are actually soulmates lol who knew! gee, it's a good thing she didn't like you!" and he's just silently suffering. emily was just fucking around here. hindley was the only linton/earnshaw/heathcliff who was wild enough to marry someone who didn't share either his gene pool or his neighborhood.
5 i imagine joseph to look like smeagol from the lotr films but taller
6 [heathcliff, after stabbing his alcoholic arch nemesis and then pushing his servant into the puddle of the blood] "Wash that stuff away; and mind the sparks of your candle—it is more than half brandy!” LMAO
7 this opinion list is just turning out to be a list of the most insane heathcliff moments but truly the novel should've just been called "heathcliff"
8 heathcliff's weird paternal feelings for hareton, saving hareton's life, him saying he would truly love him if only he wasn't hindley's child, basically giving hareton his blessing to love cathy 2.0 toward the end... so oddly endearing
9 heathcliff walking out just before the "i am heathcliff" part of her speech. why WHY
10 hindley protecting isabella from heathcliff before she flees was nice and i wish we saw more of their dynamic around the heights. honestly aside from the child neglect (which is par for the course in wuthering heights) hindley is a pretty sympathetic character; his rivalry with heathcliff was fueled by both sides and truly the fault of their father for pitting them against each other by letting heathcliff usurp hindley's place of favoritism as a boy. hindley's gambling and drinking, his general dissipation and failure to secure his son's future, are all tragic.
11 i think hindley/edgar/heathcliff are all interesting foils for each other; they each lose the women they love and are left to be single fathers, and each responds to the task totally differently. if we include mr. earnshaw, all the fathers in the story essentially fail their children after all the mothers die. hindley and heathcliff have a special parallel through their lifelong brotherly competition, the women they love both dying in childbirth, and in their own deaths. hindley slowly kills himself while ignoring everyone around him; heathcliff also kills himself, but only after trying to systematically ruin the lives of everyone around him. they also say that they want to kill each other but fail when they try; heathcliff nearly kills hindley but ends up saving his life at the last minute.
12 heathcliff jr. is so terrified of heathcliff sr. and so traumatized and petrified by fear and he doesn't deserve the hate he gets for being annoying. he's been sheltered his whole life, his mother just died, he was sent to his uncle/cousin only to be immediately torn away from them to be abused by a stranger who treats him horribly, he's terminally ill, he's still a kid, he's threatened into marrying someone he barely knows, etc.
13 if any of you have seen the british comedy show "the young ones" that's literally hindley's household in wuthering heights when joseph/hareton/hindley/heathcliff/isabella all live together. the filth, the slop for dinner, the petty games, the violence, the fierce hatred yet weird loyalty to each other, etc.
14 i really wonder how cathy would have reacted to heathcliff's treatment of everyone else if only she had known the full details (ie his harsh abuse of isabella, his son, cathy 2.0, etc.)
15 heights was my first brontë novel but i think i like jane eyre and tenant better now that i've read them all back to back! next on the list is likely agnes gray. anne, my underrated queen!
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gch1995 · 8 months
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I always find it hilarious how often casting directors of Wuthering Heights film adaptations portray Ellen “Nelly” Dean as this elderly housekeeper next to Catherine Earnshaw, Hindley Earnshaw, Heathcliff, Edgar Linton, and Isabella Linton because that’s not who she is in the book at all.
In actuality, she’s about the same age as Hindley Earnshaw, who was only around 27-28 years old when he died, due to alcoholism. She’s only roughly six years older than Heathcliff and eight years older than Catherine Earnshaw/Linton Sr. She was only 14 years old when Mr. Earnshaw brought Heathcliff to Wuthering Heights, and they met. She was only in between her early-mid 20s when Cathy Sr accepted Edgar Linton’s proposal, and Heathcliff ran away after overhearing about how “it would degrade [Catherine] to marry him.” She was only in her late-twenties when Cathy Sr and Hindley Earnshaw died.
By the time we get into the second generation coming of age, Nelly’s story to Mr. Lockwood about these fucked up people she’s known and worked for from these two families since she was a child, Edgar Linton’s death, Isabella Linton’s death, Heathcliff’s death, and Cathy Linton Jr’s and Hareton Earnshaw’s engagement/upcoming marriage, Nelly is between her early-mid 40s.
At the end of the novel, Nelly has still just barely approached the beginning of “middle age” by the time Heathcliff and all this family drama surrounding the Earnshaws and Lintons. It’s why it just cracks me up how she’s always portrayed as this much more cynical and mature elderly lady in nearly every film. I guess, her being everyone else’s caretaker/servant everyone else’s favorite confidant, and her practical makes her attitude and personality comes across as someone you’d expect to be much older than her actual years
Granted, they also have often cast actors and actresses who are between their late-twenties to mid-thirties to portray Heathcliff and Cathy Sr as teenagers to early twenties. Of course, it’s also not uncommon for many people between their late-twenties to thirties, and sometimes even early 40s, to still get physically mistaken for being between their late-teens to mid-twenties since those are still fairly young years in adulthood, too. Juliet Binoche looked to be her actual age of 28 years old when she played the much younger 14-18 year old Cathy Sr and Cathy Jr Earnshaw/Linton, though.
Ralph Fiennes is actually my favorite actor’s portrayal of Heathcliff. I think he captured the anger, the charisma, the instability, the moodiness, the mystery, the obsessiveness, and the vague underlying sense of sympathy in Heathcliff the best. Physically, Ralph Fiennes is a white Caucasian actor, but to the the costume/make up department’s credit, they did have him wear a black wig and tan his skin enough to make him come across as mixed Romani in descent for this movie. Yeah, Nelly says his skin is “blacker than the devil,” but we also know that England was a very racist country towards outsiders who were not of pure white Anglo Saxon British descent back then, so Heathcliff could have been a lighter shade of tan than she said or he could have been dark brown. We don’t get a clear answer.
I also do love this scene of him talking to Nelly about being tired of getting revenge at the end of the 1992 Wuthering Heights film adaptation. They both appear to be around the right ages from the book here, and I love Nelly’s exasperated “Oh, for God’s sake…Can you please, stop staring like that!” She is so over and done with Heathcliff’s crazy bullshit, and the actress portraying Nelly here portrays that so well!
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i love wuthering heights... a lot of posts on this site talk about catherine & heathcliffs relationship drama (which. valid! its really good!) but in terms of The Cycle its so... catherine & heathcliff being torn apart making their children so separate (cathy jr basically not knowing of hareton or linton til she was 13? ish?) heathcliff abusing linton & hareton just like he was hurt by hindley the two houses being first separate but then linked by the relationships connecting them (heathcliff & catherine in wuthering heights, edgar & isabella at thrushcross grange) the isolation caused by the moors keeping the story mostly isolated between those two houses (really nailing home the claustrophobic Cycle)... wonderful! complex! emily bronte im in love with you
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faintingheroine · 8 months
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If you can, do say your reason for picking the option you chose.
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WUTHERING HEIGHTS IS NOT A LOVE STORY HSDDAGJADKJSDFKFAKUHSDFK AND HEATHCLIFF IS NOT WHITEEE
AHEM SO This is something I will uphold to my death. Wuthering Heights is not a romance in any way shape or form. People always use that one quote "he's more myself than I am," and just run with it. THAT QUOTE IS ACTUALLY REALLY WORRYING WHEN YOU READ THE BOOK. Catherine and Heathcliff are in a way, "star-crossed lovers", meaning that their bond is an unnatural one seeing as they both eventually die in the book, and it seems like that is the only way they can be together. SECOND OF ALL HEATHCLIFF LITERALLY TRIED TO BITE NELLY IN THE BOOK WHEN SHE TRIED TO SEPERATE THEM IN THE ATTIC UMMM they were both weird ok 😭 THERE IS A SECONDARY PART OF WUTHERING HEIGHTS THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL IN THE ACTUAL TALE THE BOOK IS TRYING TO TELL SPOILERSSSS If you've read the book, you know that Heathcliff and Catherine have their own children, (Catherine and Edgar have Cathy Jr. and Heathcliff has Linton with Isabella) And Hindley, Catherine's brother, had a son named Hareton.
Hareton, Cathy Jr. and Linton's dynamic is eerily reminiscent of Heathcliff, Catherine and Hindley's relationship, only Linton, Heathcliff's son, is initially more favored by Cathy Jr., while Hareton is illiterate and surly, (similar to how Heathcliff was in the past.) I think it really was Heathcliff's intent to create another cycle of hate and hurt similar to the one he was a victim of. That's why he deprived Hareton of education when his father, Hindley, died- he was basically grooming him to become an effigy of himself, so he could play a part in the new story Heathcliff would weave. Hareton IS (in a sense) Heathcliff, and Linton is similar to Edgar, etc.
BUT IN THIS CASE, there is a twist. Hareton may be similar to Heathcliff in his youth, but he is the offspring of Hindley Earnshaw in the end, and Linton is Heathcliff's son. In forming this twisted picture, I believe that Heathcliff was trying to cause a type of family feud that would last long after his death and the death of those who wronged him. It would be the ultimate act of revenge, and it could get to the point that the families ensnared within it would forget what had kindled such vicious flames of hatred.
HOWEVER, this cycle is broken BY HARETON. Linton dies, leaving Cathy Jr. (who had been forced to marry him), childless and hopeless, with Thrushcross Grange, her inheritance, now in Heathcliff's hands. In the years that pass, Cathy becomes friends with Hareton, and they fall in love. One day, when Heathcliff is berating her, Hareton stops him from taking things further and proclaims his love for Catherine, leaving Heathcliff speechless. Heathcliff also breaks down mentally after this event. He even tells Nelly that he doesn't want revenge anymore. It could be that for a fleeting moment, he saw himself in Hareton and Catherine in Cathy, and realized that he had become even worse than the man who tried to separate them, Hindley.
Perhaps not, for he says he regrets nothing at the end of the book, so I guess we'll never know what was really goin on
Wuthering Heights is not a love story. In my opinion, it's a tale about abuse in a way (GAHUJGCDGDCIG I'M NOT ARTICULATING THINGS CORRECTLY FORGIVE ME) and how you can either become a perpetrator of the same abuse you went through, or you can get to the point where you break the cycle. Or that's one of the aspects anyway. AND HEATHCLIFF IS NOT WHITE, HE IS EITHER ROMANI OR INDIAN LIKE OMG HOW DO WE HAVE LIKE 4 WUTHERING HEIGHTS MOVIES AND HE'S WHITE IN MOST OF THEM????? AND HE'S NOT BLACK EITHER. LIKE SO FAR THE MOST ACCURATE WUTHERING HEIGHTS MOVIE IS THE OG FROM 1939
I HAVE SO MUCH MORE I WANT TO SAY SO I THINK ILL MAKE A VIDEO ESSAY ABT IT
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dippydots · 1 year
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Happy 2nd Anniversary of Gothic Gang!!!!
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shakertwelve · 10 months
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can you explain how the victor stuff matches the second half of wuthering heights? i think i get it but iit's been a while since i read the book
so in the first half of the book + normal timeline of worm, the dallon family corresponds to the earnshaws, vicky and amy are catherine and heathcliff, and dean stands in for edgar linton; there's not really a hindley earnshaw equivalent, but carol sort of fills that role as the member of the household who is least welcoming to amy.
in the second half of the book, heathcliff has returned and taken control of the house (a lot of the horror in wuthering heights plays on upper class british anxieties about being knocked down the hierarchies they've built by the people who are "supposed" to be below them) and relegated hindley's son hareton to a position of servitude in the house that he was meant to inherit—in the victor version of worm, marquis and victor are filling in for heathcliff and hareton there, respectively, especially if you're looking from carol's perspective (he stole the life vicky was supposed to have and turned her into his lackey!). correspondingly amelia takes the place of linton heathcliff, heathcliff's sickly heir, and crystal stands in for cathy jr, being the one who starts off outside the house but is drawn in through her courtship of amelia (and also. you know. their cousin).
the dog thing i keep mentioning is also pulled from wuthering heights; there's a recurring motif where heathcliff is compared to a dog to emphasize how different he is from the others (and therefore how much more shocking it is when someone as "low" as him becomes the master of the house) and it happens later on with hareton as well, since their positions are now reversed (there's also just a lot of literal dogs in the book, and especially a lot of them in the house once heathcliff is running it. coincidentally, the estate has three dogs).
obviously not everything plays out exactly the same, but it's a deliberate parallel we're playing with. i think it's fun :)
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Wuthering Heights as Onion Headlines:
Heathcliff:
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The entire household:
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Linton whenever Heathcliff comes visit:
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Everyone whenever Heathcliff does anything:
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Hindley Earnshaw:
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Heathcliff after he overhears Cathy's and Nelly's conversation:
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Literally everyone tbh:
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Heathcliff seeing Cathy (Jr.) and Linton (Jr.) getting along:
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riotgrrrlhole · 2 years
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Since one of my favorite books ever is Wuthering Heights and I have seen some of versions of it I thought To share some of the novel adaptations I have seen ( these are not all obviously)
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This is the first one I saw and the movie that got Ralph Fiennes the role of Amon in Schindler’s list ( Spielberg saw this movie and said I want that ) this one also covers the Hareton, Linton and Cathy Jr storyline which a some of the adaptions don’t cover
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Then I saw this one it’s nice , and it has Laurence Olivier who is an acting legend , this one only covers the first part
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Then I saw this one which is a Mexican version directed by Luis Buñuel during his time in Mexico where he directed a lot of films , this one also covers only the first part of the book
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This one is with Timothy Dalton ( the James Bond of license to kill ) it also covers only the first part of the book
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This one is with Tom Hardy and Charlotte Riley ( May Carleton in Peaky Blinders) to be honest this one is not one of my favorites and just couldn’t see Tom as Heathcliff but it does cover the second part of the book
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Most recent one is this one with Kaya Scodelario and directed by Andrea Arnold the visuals are nice but It relies a lot on that , this one also covers only the first part of the book , and it’s nice that Heathcliff is dark skinned for a change (in the book he is described as probably being Romani )
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jupitersflytrap · 3 years
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finally finished wuthering heights and like..... i know heathcliff is literally the devil or whatever but i feel so sorry for him i don’t care
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