#characters are allowed to have flaws guys
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kitty-bugaboo · 4 months ago
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Okay I get why people are mad about the lying. I hate lying. But you know who also hates lying? Marinette.
It’s a complicated situation, and I can’t say that if I were in her shoes that I wouldn’t also lie. Can most of us say that for certain?
She’s 15. I made so many dumb mistakes when I was 15 but at least I didn’t have the weight of the world on my shoulders as well. She’s figuring herself out while also trying to be a superhero. She’s allowed to make mistakes and this is probably a really big one yes. We can’t expect her to do the right thing all the time.
If anything this episode has made Marinette actually face the consequences of her lies for the first time. That’s good progress! She’s seen how her best friend reacts to the truth - and it is making her think about it.
I am not saying that Marinette’s actions are right - she is lying to the entire world. But I can understand. And I would do the same thing.
So how about instead of hating on a tv character because she ended up in a terrible situation and only had terrible choices to make (and yes telling the truth in this situation I would say is a terrible choice, there’s no winners here, only stupid gabriel) - we enjoy this complex character who at least has the right heart behind everything she does.
We’re in a lose lose situation here but that’s what makes it entertaining 🙃
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sleepyvib-es · 3 months ago
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I will never get over the fact that rick riordan's favorite way of uplifting other characters is to tear percy jackson down
#he does this A Lot#and this is no hate to those characters. i love them#i just think they deserve better than “ur great bc u do x better than percy”#like it. always. comes down to what someone did or didnt do in comparison to percy and how it makes them Better#ex: leo and calypso#nico and bob#jason and apollo#jason and nico.. i could go on#its even worse when percy's not even in character in half these scenarios. they feel like someone else's interpretation of his character#that doesnt understand him at all post pjo lol#or when the text demonizes him. like yea ur a bad person for not checking in on a titan that was set on killing u before u wiped his memory#ur a bad person bc u didnt check in on calypso even tho ur the one who made the gods swear an oath to release her and then got kidnapped#it happens even with percabeth's new characterization in the marketing trilogy#percy just cant have his moments anymore bc the only way rr can have other characters shine is by tearing percys down#and they ALL deserve better than that.#he also started doing this with his looks if we're being honest.#everyone is Hot and Perfect but percy cant have muscles in the marketing trilogy .. even tho hes on the swim team and clearly fit#hes not allowed to rest or make mistakes bc it makes him a shitty person and hero#his moments get misconstructed and turned into something else (calypso being his biggest what if and asking for her to be set free#-> ur just like every other hero that left her heartbroken)#sometimes i also feel like hes the only one who gets held accountable and cant escape his imperfect moments#no one else's mistakes get repeatedly brought up as much as percy's#like atp i feel like hes held more accountable than the gods lmfao (toa! apollo not counted obv)#whatever tho#every character has their flaws but they dont always get *presented* as flaws. except for percy's tho he's the Bad Guy for his#pjo#pjo hoo toa#percy jackson#cotg#wottg
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mortal-ethos · 2 months ago
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Idk something about the first thing Minthara does once she's not under the Absolute's influence for the first time in months is let herself be held just really fucking hurts me what do you want me to say
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itz-pandora · 3 months ago
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I am an advocate that you shouldn't trash on other people's ships and shouldn't trash on ships for being popular, BUT ALSO. Shippers, please also look at your characters without their partner interfering with them and they can talk about something other than their partner and have an identity outside of them (UNLESS you want to emphasize the character is dependent on their partner, but in that case you should emphasize it's probably unhealthy.)
Look at the characters and how they interact with anyone except for their partner PLEASE. Study them under a microscope
And please don't trash other characters for "getting in the way of the ship". QUIET!!! be NICE to them
And please don't flanderize the characters. It's so much more fun with nuance, trust me
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irenespring · 10 months ago
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Maybe House has made me more in-tune to the secret unhinged side of my favorite characters but I'm watching SVU and Alex Cabot is a menace. (/pos)
"I have to enforce the law, and the law is not always about justice" except random times when she disagrees and will fully become the lawyer for an opposing party in full defiance of her bosses.
"Your honor I simply do not vibe with the law" and will say so in court to the point where she once got held in contempt.
Started her legendary string of "Go After The Large Company Instead of the Obvious Target" cases just because Liv asked.
She will actually do literally anything that Olivia asks...sometimes when she does something especially unhinged I go to check the scene before and 90% of the time she's doing whatever it is to appease some vague whim of Liv's.
Ride or die for the SVU squad as a whole after working with them for less than a year and knowing that they have cost her like all her political capital (something that was very important to her...she says so in her introductory scene).
Exactly predicted fetal personhood legal issues 25 years before the Supreme Court overturned Roe.
Wanted to execute a woman for the first time in NY history for feminism reasons.
Spends like 80% of all work meetings, with other people in the room who are often actively talking to her, just staring at Olivia.
Always down for a Crazy Scheme (especially when she gets to deceive others).
She has a lot of moments of understanding the law as a weapon (ie how to I use it to my own ends as opposed to viewing it as a holy ideal) that is only now actually becoming a common philosophy in law school circles.
WAY more loose-cannon moments in general than I remembered.
Also I feel the need to reiterate just how many bridges she will burn and loops she will jump through for the slightest hint of approval from Olivia. Just...so gay.
Seriously just like how in House a casual viewer may get distracted by Wilson's "Definitely a Normal Person" disguise and miss how he is just as crazy as House, Alex is just as batshit as known exhibitionist-asphyxiation-in-the-middle-of-the-courtroom fan Rafael. And I love her dearly.
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queer-cackling · 1 year ago
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love seeing people react to Vi becoming a cop like "Oh my god this is so out of character!! What's going on!" When it was not, and that was the point, I fear.
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okthatsgreat · 11 months ago
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i’m realizing that one of my favorite ways to create a character is by first establishing a major flaw of theirs and then examining how that will inevitably fuck them up a bit. then fleshing them out from there
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codycodybobody · 4 months ago
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late night/early morning thought is that there are many things i dislike about fanon obi wan, but the biggest thing people seem to miss is that uh. he's a kind of a jerk.
#this is NOT anti obi wan i think he's funny and generally i enjoy his character#i think his jerk-ishness makes him more interesting because that is like.#a real life flaw#with narrative consequences#now granted i haven't really interacted w obi wan stuff outside of the movies/early seasons of tcw but i don't see this going away#mans has very little patience time or empathy for anakin at any given time ESPECIALLY in aotc#loves anakin like a brother the great negotiatior everlasting sadness etc etc yes yes#but he also as an example withheld SO MUCH from luke that it's like my guy#you could have been WAY MORE helpful and that's kind of an asshole move even if he didn't mean it that way#i get that's also because certain major plotpoints had not been decided yet for the og trilogy#but STILL#there are other examples eg i think if he had handled the r2 thing with a bit more tact perhaps anakin wouldn't have gone off so much. alas#sure he was complementary of anakin and funny with him in rots but he is allowed to contain multitudes and it's not like he's a jerk always#i have other complaints about fanon obi wan like the fact that hes not a helpless twink????? wtf???? he's a fucking JEDI MASTER#PUT SOME RESPECT ON HIS NAME but that's also a separate post#meg talks#sorry for the rambling i really need to go to bed it's five in the fucking morning#i was reading fic and had to stop bc i just#he's not perfect nor is he helpless and a tragic backstory does not a character make#my desire to exclusively interact with the source material for now grows everyday#nothing against fic! i still quite like it and i've read a lot of it and i'm sure i will read more and soon#but it's not the same and now i know too much for me to not Have OpinionsTM#obi wan kenobi#i might delete this later i just need to shout it into the void so i can stop thinking about it
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"We need more messy/awful/cringefail female characters!"
You guys couldn't even handle Wanda Whipple...
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jackass-jones · 1 year ago
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To also go off of the point about cop!akihiko being annoying to me I gotta say that Akihiko as a character is very hit or miss with me because of how different adaptations of p3 will subtly alter his character. I felt like in portable with the femc route he comes off best, he’s a bit of a hothead with an obsession with fighting, but he’s overcompensating his strength so he doesn’t feel as weak and helpless as he’s been in many situations. He defines strength in a very literal sense, being physically strong and using that to protect others, but he’s lacking in emotional strength as a result. And in particular in this version I think he’s portrayed as a bit more goofy and sweet in a sense. He cares deeply for you as a friend and leader but he struggles with finding the words to describe how he feels. Hes kinda naive and gullible and has trouble noticing his surroundings. He has no clue what he’s doing but his heart is in the right place. I think he just comes off much more human and he has flaws, many many flaws, and that makes him all the more lovable
But then in other adaptations and spinoffs it’s like. They look at him through some hetero male bullshit filter and seem to view him as a lot more admirable and cool. Like in p3 dancing, theres literally an event where he’s talking with Junpei and Minato and they’re gushing about how perfect Akihiko is and how he doesn’t seem to have ANY flaws at all. And it becomes clear his inability to flirt with women just gets added as a way to make sure you, the Straight Male Player, don’t get insecure being next to such Perfection because at the end of the day, you’re still more charming and sexy than he will ever be because you’re better. It’s a “flaw” that’s only there to shield a sensitive male ego. And then in arena I mean, come on. He’s overly beefy and is a damn cop and travels the world and loves Protein™️ it’s his whole personality and he’s so clearly meant to be seen as hot but like, he’s just some shitty hetero male fantasy. Hes what the writers deem to be a Perfect Man that every guy wishes he could be, but don’t worry he’s still bad with women so you don’t gotta worry about him stealing your property- I mean, girlfriend!
And though I’ve not played reload and don’t really plan to anytime soon, judging from his social episodes they seem to have a similar problem. Akihiko comes off as a lot less approachable, like the year age gap is just too much of a barrier to get to know him properly. And he doesn’t have that dorky sweetness he has in portable, he’s just that perfect hetero male fantasy guy and don’t you fucking worry- he still has his protein powder with him
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cluescorner · 1 year ago
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They fucking did it again those bastards. Jason Todd fucking dies 2: Electric Boogaloo. Fuck it, let's go for a threepeat at this point. It'll be funny as hell.
#tuesday spoilers#jason todd#in all seriousness though like...what the hell#I'm not even a Jason superfan. I like him but I'm not like INVESTED in the way I am with Steph's stuff#but I am so upset on y'all's behalf. Damian and Jason have gotten so thoroughly fucked over by Zdarsky.#And not even in a way that makes narrative sense or is the logical conclusion to their character flaws#it really is the 'X is the best Robin disease so fuck everyone who isn't them'. Tim is Zdarsky's fave so these other guys need to fuck off#Update: Jason is not dead. which is somehow even worse#because it means they wrote a fake-out death for a character who's defining thing is that he totally actually died#and now they're having a character who LITERALLY DID DIE THAT IS HIS WHOLE THING have a fakeout death#why couldn't it be Dick? Or Tim? Or Damian?#Obviously it wouldn't be Cass or Steph or Duke because Zdarsky doesn't even pretend to care about them#but a Tim fake-out would make sense because Zdarsky is actually really good at writing Tim's whole 'I am Batman's caretaker/keeper' thing#so having Tim 'sacrifice himself' to protect Bruce would make sense and it would also fit with how he's characterized#and because (credit where it's due) Zdarsky is good at writing Tim it would probably be at least interesting if not straight up good#and a Damian fake-out would have made sense to do a while ago because it makes sense logistically and would have#allowed Zdarsky to take him out of the story. which imo is preferable to writing him poorly. it also would have raised the stakes#I'm opposed to a Dick fake-out because like...nah. we've gotten so many of those and I don't want to be reminded of Ric if I can avoid it#but it would have been better than fake killing the guy who DIED FOR REALSIES AND IT'S HIS DEFINING EVENT#Damian also died for realsies but IDK if that's been retconned and also it's not literally his whole thing#Damian is a Robin who died but he is not THE Robin who died
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musical-chick-13 · 6 months ago
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If someone points out "The way fandom treats any (white) man vs any woman is very different to a genuinely alarming degree," you DO know that you don't have to qualify your agreement with, "But there are SO many badly-written women," right?
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alrightbuckaroo · 2 years ago
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violentlydefending · 9 months ago
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genuinely always so shocked to see mirei hate. like literally god forbid women do anything.
#contra.txt#y5 haters in general... does playable haruka mean nothing to you...#DOES SHINADA TATSUO MEAN NOTHING TO YOU...#for legal reasons this is a joke people are allowed to feel however they want about whatever it's just viddy games#and i fully acknowledge y5 and its litany of flaws#of which there are certainly enough for any given individual to justifiably dislike/hate its entirety but I AM A Y5 LOVER THRU AND THRU#saejima's arc is just an arguably less interesting rehash of the one he had in 4?#(jail; jailbreak; betrayed by his lil buddy guy#but now we're sans the interesting character stuff of his feelings regarding the hit. & also i miss his hair.#& that's not even to say i think saejima is boring in y5 i think there's some interesting subtext to take away from his character#unique to this entry but it's pretty hard to deny how much is literally just y4 again but now he's bald)#BUT WHO GAFS he got buffed to hell gameplay-wise and punches bears now#and also baba's a great character and he doesn't have to do a whole chase minigame if a cop sees him anymore#bloated/unfocused feeling in general to the game?#WELL THAT'S JUST MORE CONTENT BABY!!! only a real issue if you're a completionist imo#+ are u telling me you don't wanna drive a taxi? u don't wanna play a video game in which the goal is to drive as normally as possible?#and i loveeeee multiple protagonists yay <3 y0 y4 and y5 are my favs so far lol (up to y6)#kiryu's inclusion in y5 also feels way more justified than in y4. he was so tacked on there i'm trying to remember what he even really did#other than tiger dropping as a boss fight before instantly forgetting how to tiger drop the second he became playable#and losing track of yasuko and getting tag-teamed by akiyama and tanimura (cough) and beating up daigo#but in exchange akiyama becomes the protag that feels kinda tacked on in y5. way less so than kiryu in y4 tho for sure#anyway. weird/strangely justified plot beats? WELL THAT'S JUST EVERY YAKUZA GAME#an arguably strange/poor writing choice for majima especially given how he ended up being written in y0?#well honestly other than the age thing i think it makes him more interesting... he's kinda fucked up!#but i do get why people are /really/ not a fan of it. ik i just said i think it makes him more interesting but if it gets retconned#or even just never mentioned again i wouldn't be surprised tbh#but additionally he's not even a major character in y5 so it feels like it's not really a significant complaint imo#anyway anyone can do this ('this' being acknowledging the flaws of a thing and then letting how much they otherwise enjoy#said thing determine how much they let said flaws influence their overall opinion) ...such is the beauty of subjectivity... i love you.#yakuza
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kacievvbbbb · 2 months ago
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I just rewatched the original Lilo and Stitch movie and honestly was not expecting to find out that Stitch has to be one of the biggest victims of a decade long flanderization.
I also forgot, and honestly I think most people, that stitch has so much character like he’s not just a ball of chaos, he's also very much a smart ass and makes jokes. And is angry and curious and a little bit of an asshole. You just don’t really get that in the live action or really most iterations of him. He’s reverted back to one.
Like Stitch in the movie is really smart. And he doesn’t just make noises as they will have you believe it’s actually pretty implied that he’s bilingual and was actively learning English (and not talking because Dog cover) and that’s why it was all stilted and kind of broken and unsure. He sounds much smoother and natural speaking in his alien language that Jumba understands. I don’t think the live action movie really got this.
And through out the movie he is not unstoppably causing chaos he’s just angry, confused, and curious and not gentle with things and so things just go wrong around him. The only thing he actively destroys out of a want to destroy is the mini San Fransisco he built and that was copying a movie scene he saw. Stitch destroys things because it’s how he knows to interact with the world around him by the end of the movie he does very little destruction and more just general goofing off (granted with a true lack of understanding on like property damage)
Hell Jumba goes good because he’s been observing Stitch and his struggles to become more than he was made to be. How stitch reacts in a situation where he can no longer perform his primary objective. Jumba pities him like a robot without a job but Stitch evolves to more than he was meant to be and it’s that evolution that flaw in his programming that allows Jumba to switch sides (even if it is played for laughs and never mind that despite his creations Jumba honestly was never even that bad a guy to begin with I mean obviously it’s a kids show but when Jumba lists Stitches objectives they are are inconveniences at best frustrating and mild property damage at worst)
But like the idea that like Stitch is actually just another burden that Nani would need to take care of is laughable when by the end of the movie it is explicitly shown him doing household chores. He makes their lunches escorts Lilo to the bus, bakes her birthday cake, does the laundry and does it well. Hell he practically even has a job. Never mind that Jumba and Pleakly are also there and also pitch in. Plus Cobra. Nani had so much support by the end of the movie that ofcourse she could continue to raise Lilo she wasn’t doing it alone.
The new ending just feels like the makers didn’t have faith in the original concept like they didn’t believe that anyone would believe that Lilo would be okay in the care of aliens we have to replace them with people or else it doesn’t make sense. It’s just weird like they didn’t trust the audience to garps that these silly little aliens are not in fact children that also need supervision but beings capable of taking care of lilo and contributing to the family. And honestly I don’t blame them because people did accept it. And it’s so fucking sad.
We’ve talked a lot about Nani, Lilo and Jumba and their blatant mischaracterization . But not enough about the flanderization of stitch and it’s just sad honestly.
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ellynneversweet · 4 months ago
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I’m so fucking serious when I say ‘whether a person can understand the chronology of Pride and Prejudice is a marker of intelligence.’
Like. The reader receives very detailed character study of Darcy in the first half of the book that omits one very crucial detail of why he decided to indulge himself in his absolute worst traits in the scene in which he is introduced. This allows the reader to assume that this is his base state and not Darcy at his worst. Then the reader is, via Wickham, fed a fictitious account of Darcy at his worst which really does make him look like a villain who could and would have the power to make the lives of his family utterly miserable. Then at the midpoint of the book we are given information about what occurred prior to the start of the book which recontextualises everything about both Darcy and Wickham. Most people understand this should change their understanding of Wickham because Elizabeth explicitly dwells on it and thinks about how this changes her opinion of why he was behaving the way he was when Elizabeth and Wickham met. A surprisingly large amount of people don’t seem to realise that this should also change their understanding of Darcy, possibly because Elizabeth doesn’t explicitly dwell on these same facts being the reason Darcy was behaving the way he was when Elizabeth and Darcy met.
This makes sense from Elizabeth’s perspective because the primary way in which she relates to both Darcy and Wickham is as men who are courting her and who she has to decide to encourage or reject based on limited information, and Elizabeth has already been established to have an extremely low tolerance for male and marital bullshit — see Mr Collins, who is not brutal or economically foolhardy but simply an insecure ass who needs to be intensively managed. Darcy on a bad day is still a pretty good guy, but he’s Elizabeth’s absolute upper limit of how much she is prepared to put up with in terms of ‘my husband is having a bad day and I have to deal with it’ so it’s not enough for her to know he can be like that. She needs further encouragement that Darcy on an okay or good day is an actively nice, pleasant, responsible person to be around — which is what we get at Pemberley and in Aunt Gardiner’s observation of him.
But. But. YOU ARE NOT ELIZABETH, DEAR READER. You are getting to read about all these characters and their flaws. Which is why you need to understand when Elizabeth is wrong or doesn’t notice something!
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