#circular logic

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

If your "proof" is the bible, not only do you have no proof, but you don't even understand what constitutes evidence, much less your obligation.

[mpov]

Op on the original thread blocked me.

@redfemmayy

I have run down hundreds of examples people gave me of shitty MRAs. Every single time the person was spouting legit hate towards women, they either never said a damned thing about Men's Rights, or declared overt contempt and hatred towards them.

Show me videos from MRAs saying you can't rape your wife, drunk women are asking for it, etc. I want proof. What MRA books? Give me titles.

Why did I bring up Karen Straughan? Because @midnight-roses-candy claimed MRAs wouldn't stand to be "surrounded by queers" when there are literal queer leaders in the movement.

Who the fuck is Pearly White? The MRM has wholly disowned "Red Pillers" regardless. In fact when there was a documentary about MRAs being made "The Red Pill" They begged her to change the title as they don't want to be associated with them.

I'm not an MRA. I have been on this site over a decade begging for a link to one solid example of MRAs being shitty. I'm still begging to this day. Will, you finally be the one to link to something real? I can only hope.

But the proof so far is always the same circular logic.

A classic example is the "Furiosa Effect". In which people decided that MRAs hated Mad Max: Fury Road. When if you actually go to MRAs, or sites they have, you find glowing reviews. There was never an MRA boycott of the film. Nothing of the sort. But then anyone who gave it less than a perfect score was an MRA, so the narrative became:

"MRAs hate MM:FR! Reviewer didn't love MM:FR! Reviewer is an MRA. (which reinforces) MRAs hate MM:FR"

But ya'll never listen to me. Maybe you'll listen to a feminist.

Give me book titles, links to videos, articles, anything. I always run them down in good faith.

[muffinlevelchicanery]

A modern Socratic dialogue with a biker meme escalating argument format. Person A: “Pay me more.” Person B: “You’ve gotta work hard to make money” A: “But no matter how hard I work, you always pay me the same shitty wage!” B: “If you don’t like it, go somewhere else!” A: “Everywhere else pays shitty wages, too!” B: “Then start your own business!” A: “With what fucking money!?!” B: “You’ve gotta work for it!”

[mtg-cards-hourly]

Circular Logic

Artist: Anthony S. Waters TCG Player Link Scryfall Link EDHREC Link

[gramarobin]

[trumpchumps]

Clearly he’s never heard them speak.

[tenth-sentence]

Immoral behavior was taken ipso facto as evidence of feeblemindedness, which in turn was claimed to produce immoral behavior.

"In the Name of Eugenics: Genetics and the Uses of Human Heredity" - Daniel J. Kevles

[vexingwoman]

I love it. they couldn’t decide between the circular, non-functional definition of “a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman” and the sexist definition of “a woman is anyone who is feminine” so they just went with both.

[yellow-yarrow]

hmmm. if the samaran meth is something that helps you be fearless in the pale. and the opposite of the pale is matter. and there are sentences in the book like "matter rages in her" when talking about Malin taking the drug.. and there is the part where a homunculus forms and then "it was never there" - like the pale made it disappear (absolute negation) - but the drug is likely one of the causes for their disappearance - and someone had a theory that malin might have had a "baby pale" in her. and there's a theory that there is something in her that she wants to delete from the world. then how the fuck does this all work

[incorrect-hs-quotes]

Aranea: "defend your thesis" why are you attacking my thesis

[furbearingbrick]

"Exorsexism isn't real! To prove this, I'll link some sources made by binary people talking about how nonbinary people aren't oppressed."

GAH

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

"Because I said so" with a lot more steps.

[ebonyheartnet]

Me: Okay, so I can ask for something I want. It’s not bad to mention a thing that would make me really happy.

Brain: Oh, so you’re gonna take advantage of someone? Nice.

Me:

Me: Okay, so how about something that’d drastically improve my quality of life?

Brain: Wow, way to be needy. You’re gonna scare people away if you keep reminding them how hard it is to keep you around.

Me: You mean little— Fine, I’m just gonna do the usual song and dance! I won’t let anyone fuss over me, but I’ll make sure everybody else gets their flowers, food and drink.

Brain: Keep talking.

Me: I’ll just withdraw so they don’t notice the burnout, and come back when I can win another fucking EGOT with my performances.

Brain: K, but refusing to lean on them is gonna hurt them more. They’ll be sure you don’t trust them, and they’re gonna notice that you’re holding them at arm’s length.

Me: No they won’t!

Brain: Yeah, you’re not that good an actor. You also suck at knowing when to dip before the cracks show, and staying away until you’ve covered them up.

Me: But—

Brain: In fact, you’re so bad at lying about not being in distress that it’ll just hurt their feelings. Might as well just—

Brain: Wait a second.

Me: 👀

Brain: =_=

Me: 🥤👀🍿

Brain: You miserable little shit.

Me: No no, go on. Tell me more about how I’m never going to pull off faking being okay. The people who care about me are too smart for that, so it’d just be insulting their intelligence.

Brain: I WAS HAVING FUN-

Me: Death spiraling my mental health? Mhmm. Feel free to continue.

Brain: You’re so annoying!

Me: Yup.

Me: Don’t forget the part about undermining their confidence. Like, I can baby them, but they’re not capable enough to help me? Devastating.

Brain: Why are you like this?!

Me: Bitch, I’m not the amalgamation of every piece of shit someone threw at me.

[greensaplinggrace]

"the venn diagram of reylo and darklina shippers is a circle" fact actually a statistical error. the venn diagram of reylo and darklina shippers would actually be a sun, because I and over half of the darklina shippers I know that don't ship reylo would be jettisoning from the circle like sunbursts to continue on our own paths

[mtg-cards-hourly]

Circular Logic

Artist: Anthony S. Waters TCG Player Link Scryfall Link EDHREC Link

[gramarobin]