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There’s not enough people talking about how important Stephanie is to Damian’s growth pre-Flashpoint.
Bruce had seen Damian as a beast to be tamed, Tim sees him as a ticking time bomb, and Dick is far better with him but he’s still an authority figure for Damian to combat with. But then he meets Stephanie, a college-aged girl who nobody trusts and he bullies her relentlessly and becomes inseparable from her.
She doesn’t interact with him based on his past, but on what she can see. This 10 year old just threatened to kill her? Wow he doesn’t get outside much. He’s not old enough to have seen Gremlins. What do you MEAN you’ve never been inside a bouncy house before we are fixing that immediately.
They are like cousins to each other. They poke fun at each other for being lame and stupid and Dick has to tell them both to shut up. She doesn’t see him as a project to be molded and redeemed, he’s just a kid with a crappy childhood like her and if he’s nice to her for 5 seconds she’ll do something with him to let him feel like a kid. And he doesn’t look at her and see a liability or a failure or a lost cause, like everyone she’s ever interacted with does. When he’s awful to her, it’s because he’s an obnoxious preteen boy.
And then you get the “there’s room in our line of work for hope, too” scene. Because Damian has gotten to know Steph and he can’t fathom why she’s here. She obviously has had to deal with crap and is still working through being kept on a leash by Nightwing and Oracle, but she isn’t broken like the rest of them are. Damian is surrounded by people who were molded and shaped and torn down and broken to become the monoliths that they are, and then there’s this girl who seems so at peace with herself and is constantly making quips, and it’s so foreign to him.
And she tells him that she’s in his world because she believes people are worth fighting for.
#Batman#damian wayne#stephanie brown#robin dc#batgirl#batgirl (2009)#Batfam#Batfamily#dc comics#batman meta#batgirl (2009) is my favorite comic I’ve ever read can you tell#I just love how Stephanie and Damian are so removed from everything when they’re together that there isn’t any hierarchy between them#they each have some sort of hierarchy and Expectation around literally everyone else#but with each other they’re just peers#they can work together and fight together#they can hate each other and be bickering the entire time#but they evaluate each other based on what they see#Damian sees a goofy but determined woman who doesn’t look at him like he needs fixing#and Stephanie sees a violent kid who clearly hasn’t had a childhood but is trustworthy in a fight#and they just. interact based on those factors and nothing else#and it’s so beautiful for them both#and you have the whole ‘fatgirl’ and ‘when did you start stuffing your suit’ comments from Damian that suck#but weirdly I find it comforting because it implies to me that Damian is feeling some stuff that’ll tie into puberty#and he lets himself (albeit in a very uncomfortable and harmful way) feel those emotions and express them to Steph#like it’s very stupid and so early 2000s and frustrating#but I think it’s a little charming how it’s another example of Stephanie sort of being a vessel for Damian to experience normal feelings#even if he ends up being very Damian about it
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“I created something with Donnie in it!!”
*runs towards you*
“And I got rid of his creep behaviors!!”
*runs away from you faster*
#If you feel the need to mention that he’s a bad person#And you had to fix him#Then I don’t want to see it#Because now you just made him OOC to my brain#But if you don’t mention that#And you make him a little OOC without the badness that you perceive in his character#I might not even notice! I might love your stuff with my whole soul and encourage you to do more!#All I’m saying is to leave your comments out#Because I will not stand there and let my boy see disrespect#Keep the content and the rant posts seperate#All I’m asking for#(But not demanding)#(You always create for you this is my FYI)#tmnt 2012#tmnt fandom#teenage mutant ninja turtles 2012#tmnt 2k12#teenage mutant ninja turtles#2012 tmnt#tmnt donnie 2012#donnie 2012#2012 donnie#2012 tmnt donnie
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Sometimes I'll be writing a comment on a story on Ao3, and I'll just stop because I'll realize how long this comment is, and I'll think to myself, "Do they even want to comment this long? I'm basically psychoanalyzing half of the paragraphs in here! Would they be appreciative of this?" And then I realize another thing: I want comments like this. I love comments like this! I want more comments like this! And then I go on and continue to write a 10 page dissertation about why I love this particular chapter on [almost] every chapter
#we almost is only in there because sometimes I get way too lost in the story to be able to stop and leave a comment#let alone walk around or get a drink or eat or something#sometimes meaning a lot of the time#way too many times than i would like to admit#ao3#ao3 comments#ao3 writer#please leave comments#tell writers you love their stories#i can guarantee that most if not all want ro have discussions about their work#it feels redundant to add into the mess of people saying the same#but i am going to scream it in your faces until more comments are left on more fics and art pieces#(yes i am a hypocrite for saying this but I'm getting better at letting people know when i like their stuff)
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some doodles for a skyward sword zelink modern au concept ^_^ the details of which are only known to me and 4 other people probably 👍
credit to @linkvcr for their uns + their fits and for going crazy with me over them always hehe
#demonkingsblade666 said: your boyfriend is ugly af (Comment deleted by moderator: SwordThatSealsTheDarkness)#zelda is probably also official.zelda on other platforms. something like that. i think she has a million followers on everything#zelink#skyward sword#loz#link#zelda#princess zelda#loz au#ss link#ss zelda#sorry if this looks a lil messy ive been testing brushes out + deliberately trying to make sure i dont go overkill on anything LOL#at least not for a lil while. i am also doodling stuff thats too spicy to share on here or maybe not till i can do a bigger art dump#so ummm yeagh please bear with me ^_^ love you and everyone ever
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ANCIENT wip that i finally got around to splashin color onto. NO idea where this colorin style came from n it WONT happen again!! anyway i LOOOVE the general dynamic between arthur n emizel. both are so cool and so awesome and yet SO silly...
#jrwi fanart#jrwi show#jrwi suckening#arthur bennett#emizel tucker#WEEE art is so fun..FUCKED UP THO that when i posted this on TWITTER...#i wokeup today to like 9 new comments n i was SO HAPPY!! but then i realized they were all BOTS!!DISGUSTING MACHINES MADE BY DISGUSTING PPL#VILE!!anyway so. YES i scribbled this up back when the ep w this scene first came out. what ep was that?? like 2 or so??#GOOD STUFF i love this show so much... the thought of arthur tucking himself down into the back o the car so he wouldnt be seen..#hes so serious&stoic and he just does the funniest shit with the straightest face.ive said it amillion times but i LOVE ARTHURS DRY HUMOR..#I ALSo really love emizel bc AAAA!! THE WHOLE SCENE B4 THIS ONE w him just catching up with soda...#those two are so cute w eachother.... ouhhh....... they are bestieeeessssss#do u guys ever think abt void... where did she come from.. how did her n arthur become friends.....#okayokay i think thats all the ramblings i have in me. enjoy my creations and your day aswell. if you can
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Assorted jercy head canons from yours truly
both have zero self worth, they reassure each other and built each other up over time
both have a hard time expressing emotions. especially: Percy worries over things he thinks will make him look stupid (or, more recent fear, scary), and Jason anything that would make him look weak
Percy has bad internalized homophobia, no matter how accepting his mom is, Gabe's insults left a mark on his brain, he just feels gross and wrong and doesn't know what to do (yes, it gets better, but it's rough)
feral motherfuckers, the both of them, they bite, they growl, there's so much here but there's already a post...
Percy thinks Jason’s glasses are very cute, he steals them sometimes and Jason thinks he’s fucking adorable, unfortunately, to see this, he has to get pretty close. like kissing distance close
Jason is 6’4. Percy is 6’3. There is fucking relentless short jokes.
Percy, despite being only ~10 months older, is also teased about being old. He tells Jason to respect his elders.
Jason has abandonment issues. And autism, among other things
These two are so fucking cuddly. Like, it took a while before they were both on the same page, but now they're both so constantly in each other's space. always touching, always just near each other
Jason is a nice guy, he grew up trying to be Approachable and Nice, he tends to give out compliments bc people seem to like that (see above: autism), so naturally he compliments Percy and Percy 404's. he does not what to do, no idea how to take compliments (from his mom is normal but anyone else? weird). Jason does it even more just to see him blush (guaranteed result)
Cuddle and listen to audiobooks/podcasts together
Whoever introduced them to audiobooks/podcasts either thinks it's adorable or regrets everything, maybe both
Jason lighting round: cannot cook, can draw, bites his nails, king of lil kisses, car trauma, loves to play with Percy's hair, is scared of thunderstorms, the really loud ones that shake everything, likes to wear beanies (good sensory on his short hair)
Percy lightning round: best cook, loves gardening, grows some of his own food/veggies/spices, has so many fun piercings (pls hc your own favorite ones for him, I can never pick), has a weird relationship with food post-tartarus, also really sensitive to light post-tartarus, has long hair, dissociation problems and rsd, steals Jason's clothes (they're grounding)
@queer-brainrot I did it!! Hope you like it <3
#whoopsy daisy#longer than i thought it would be#hope you like it tho <3#it's not even all...#and i have a whole bunch of disability/mental illness stuff but i just decided to pepper some of it in#please feel free to add your own or expand/comment on these etc#i'd love to see other's thoughts on these two#and if this gives anyone inspo to write something please do! i'd love to know if you do as well i would love to read it#jercy#percy jackson#jason grace#jason grace x percy jackson#percy jackson x jason grace
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May I present! The first Part of my Series of "Changeling/Mimic Sky Kid Creature" differentiated by the realms they live in!
More detailed post about the Lore and Idea itself
First one on the list:
ISLE OF DAWN
More extended dive into their lore below the cut :D
Due to the Isle of Dawn literally containing almost nothing but sand and a few rocks (minus the extra regions, I am only gonna consider the main ones for this idea) I gave the Sky critters of this realm mole focused features.
They live underground in an extended tunnel system, which are roughly divided into multiple sections belonging to smaller groups of 3-5 kids per section. Their eyes are basically non existent, therefore the kids themself are blind and rely on their hearing and the feeling of vibrations for orientation.
Concluding from this you will see them stumbling around like a new born if they do walk above ground, which in the end does not pull too much attention to them due to the realm being known as the first region for new born moths to explore.
Caused to their lifestyle underground, Mole-Kids are usually smaller than the standard Sky-Kid, which could be suspicious for any older Sky-Kid, knowing that such a Chibi-Size in a moth state is a rare, if not even an impossible sight.
Instead of fingers they have long, sturdy claws on each hand, which they use exclusively for digging their tunnels and caves. Because of them, their hands, when put in disguising gloves, show a distinct pointy tip and are wider than the normal Sky Kids hand. On their feet they have 2 big claws, which show in a similar way than their hand camouflage.
Because any kind of clothing is pretty hindering when digging thru sand and earth, the mole-kids are never seen with a cape and only wear the classy moth fit, which they scavengered from Sky kids that never ventured further than the Isle of Dawn. It is rare for any butterflies or vets to pass thru the realm which additionally limits them in their selection of clothing or masks in general.
Their diet mostly consists of salamanders or other small critters living in the dunes of the realm and occasionally a few of the butterflies that are swarming around between the bigger rocks.
Compared to the other Sky-Creatures, the Mole-Kids are very harmless. Even if their teeth are looking quite scary, with their four pronounced canine teeth, they are easy to evade from. They are very curious nonetheless and sometimes dare to come closer to new moth to take them by the hand and walk with them for a while, being happy to not run into any rocks and just enjoy running around with someone taking the lead who can see.
Signs to distinguish a Mole-Kid from a Sky-Kid:
no cape
wide and pointy hand and feet
walking around like a toddler taking their first step
mask being worn upside down
paler color scheme/faded clothing color

> Reference of the Isle of Dawn Realm <
#First Part!#Of a series I will DEFINITELY finish!#I have so many notes for all realms#I just havta put it into actual drawings and stuff#Feel free to add or comment your opinion on this!#I would love to hear what you think and if you have a different view/idea/take on this#How did I called this again#Changeling/Mimic Sky Kid Creature#Changeling/Mimic Sky Kid Creature AU#I think?#Guess?#Idk#For now#Can edit later#kiki doodles#sky children of the light#sky cotl#sky children fanart#sky colt#that game company#that game sky
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What must Jackson's reaction have been like when he realized he was growing horns?
i mean probably just stoked that he finally appeared monster sgdjfh
either they started growing early puperty (cause i find the idea weird that horns can just. grow when holt is in control lmao)
orrr if we're going with mine, socky and tryes "rewrite au" or whatever
after the freaky fusion incident they would eventurally decide to stay split and some of jacksons more monster genes would start showing after a while :]
but either way he'd be so happy about it until he realised he cant really style his hair in a way he likes without them being hidden anyway lol
(this also applies to the littol tail that he has too >:3c)
#monster high#thanks for the question QwQ#always fun to see you in my notifs i love your art and i adore your spelltine stuff#im just. bad at commenting#waaa#i have a lot of thoughts about jackson and holts genetics and quirks and stuff#eyes emoji#can you tell jackson was my favorite until keiran took over?? lmao
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imagine commenting on a post of a meme about the heatwaves people in the balkans have been experiencing for the past... weeks?? with shit like this. And the previous comment of theirs was "what's stopping you from getting an AC?" maybe living in poverty??? that unfortunately a lot of balkan people are living in???? in a place where having an AC does not come with the house all the time????? of course, the person commenting is... you guessed it, american
#americans shut the fuck up on others issues when you have nothing productive to say challenge - failed#my family is amongst those who can't afford an AC actually#we've been cooking for weeks and it's hell#imagine being so up your ass that you comment stuff like that lol#would love to see this guy survive his weather without an AC and no complaints#bones rattle
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An interesting little fun thing with team 7 is that you assume that Sakura's gonna, like, woobify and simplify Sasuke by putting him on a pedastal,cause her goal is centered around him and shes a 12 y/o fangirl so like of course her understanding of him is skewed cause she doesnt see him as a person, just an object of affection, right? She's can't get Sasuke, can't imprint on and/or traumabond with him like Naruto and Kakashi do. They don't see him with rose tinted glasses, because they've lived through their own Horrors and empathize with Sasuke's experience.
......right?
WRONG lmao!! They have too many ghosts!! Naruto's single-minded codependent ass won't get out of his own way long enough to see Sasuke for who he actually is, only able to empathize with the parts of his trauma Naruto relates to and not really capable of understanding him outside of the context of himself (because Sasuke is. His other half). And Kakashi is far too jaded to be fair to him!! He can't decide if Sasuke is gonna end up as a mini-him or a mini-Obito or maybe a mini-Itachi, but either way he ALSO is too traumatized to see Sasuke AS SASUKE.
meanehile SAKURA'S autistic ass may have dogshit empathy, but you know what she does have? A special interest in sasuke. Nothing better to do then give herself a degree in Uchihaisms. She can write character studies about him. she can read his soul. Whenever she says something about him she is right. Every fucking time! She is RIGHT!!!!
'sasuke would NOT compliment me this directly or explicitly express worry unprompted, especially if it gets in the way of his goals' correct.
'Sasuke shouldn't hide that curse on his neck its not healthy BUT if I tell anyone about it he'll never trust me again, which might be even more dangerous for him then the curse mark. Like he can probably handle the curse mark but no one else can stop him from ripping peoples arms off.' correct.
Speaking of! 'Sasuke would not hurt me even when he seems to be...possessed? whatever the only way to knock him out of it is to present myself as Alive and thus something to be protected rather then something to be avenged, because he gets really stuck in his own head about revenge' CORRECT
'hey so um. like. Sasuke's gonna leave Konoha. I'm not sure anything can stop him at this point and honestly I'm kinda starting to doubt anything should, so the only thing I could possibly do to help him at this point is ALSO defect.' CORRECT!!!!
#shout out to @Obihoe cause this started as a tag comment on one of your posts that got WAY too out of hand. just like old times lol#team 7#haruno sakura#sakura haruno#sasuke uchiha#team crackhead#naruto#naruto uzumaki#sasusaku#doesn't have to be but like. Yeah#for the record no disrespect to my boys Naruto n Kakashi I love them dearly. but like. they got their issues. that's half the fun of team 7#And Sakura has her problems with Sasuke too!! But her problems have nothing to do with understand him or his motivations or his personhood#and more to do with. Well. her absolute dogshit empathy. Emotionally disregulated ass.#'if you leave me I'll feel just like you did when your parents died' My beloved. Iconic. Great line. No notes. She's really just still so#inexperienced and naive that means she can explain and predict and KNOW him and his actions but still not empathize. She can say shit#like that with a straight face because she's never FELT loss like this before (except that minute she thought he was dead on the bridge)#so she can't imagine a worse pain. Just assumes it can't GET worse because she has no emotional concept of 'worse'. so it must be the same#she's literally the only person with a chance of convincing Sasuke to take her with him to Orochimaru because he's SASUKE of course she#knows all the right pressure points and keywords and concerns and stuff that she needs to convince him.#she's literally playing a little diolouge tree game with him. And maybe even winning up until that line! it's the dealbreaker
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You're a huge part of why I feel like the community around Emmrich is such a comforting place. And I love all your writing dearly. Wanted to just say thank you 💚💚💚
anon your love got me
enjoy fresh art of Rook Worne Thorne made by @socksual-innuendos
And a letter—because Anon—I love you. And I mean that sincerely. I wish you could see my face. Hear my tone. Know that I am curious—what do you love? What might we share? Where do we differ? What makes you laugh? What drew you here? If you’ve read my writing you hold a piece of me. And I thank you for treasuring that. For returning what warmth I might offer. For reaching out with your beautiful voice. Thank YOU. The power of three sentences and three hearts cannot be overstated. I can write off this high three years. what a gift, you humble me 🧡🧡🧡
#I DELETED THE TAGS LMFAO I KNEW IT YOU#lmfao if you got tagged APOLOGIES I was gonna do promotion Saturday Sunday and a draft had many many tags but I deleted those before postin#HAHAHAHAHAHA I’m gonna break another rib dear maker help me let me kiss your face#look if I tagged you and you’re wtf link me a fic and I’ll leave you a comment or promote a work I’ll give comments and love#okay the art is literally me falling on mh fucking face today lmfao help what aday tumblr don’t terminate me again#if you were tagged I sincerely love you and im not joking comment reblog whatever ill love ur stuff pfff its a fun day
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Just a heads up, I'm starting school again tomorrow, so updates will likely start to get released a bit slower. I'll still get them out as often as I can, but it probably wont be anything consistent, sorry!
#not twitter au#thank you guys 2k followers btw!#your support means the world to me#I love all the comments and stuff y'all leave#it makes me so happy that others are enjoying this au just as much as I enjoy writing it :)#next update will be within the next day(ish) and will conclude the timkon arc I have going right now!
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Fellas, ladies, yall in between and yall outside, friend me if you even remotely like Ninjago
#guys how do you make friends#literally no one is gonna fricking see this#I want friends#I have lots to offer#I’m funny#I’m open to your headcanons#I will read your fanfics#just ask doli#and yes#I will indulge your weird aus#so who wants to friend me#:3#ninjago#lego ninjago#friends#looking for moots#moots#i love my moots#tumblr moots#lovely moots 💕#moots <3#mooties ♡#moot me#ngl just repost this#comment#uhh send me stuff in the box thingy#or chat me up#I’ll be here#waiting#:)
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My guy don't describe the random lost scientist guy that way to Rayla of all people. That literally just describes Callum.
#of course ive put like 5 hours into the game and ive exclusively only played at rayla 100% of the time why do you ask#ESPECIALLY now that i have her arc2 design#ive fuckin loved knives my whole life and love rayla so naturally#slish slash smash crash!!#also the zelda pot rules in this game are *chefs kiss* i smashed the first boxes i saw and was immediately hooked they know me so well#and rayla has like 3 lines commenting on smashing stuff that makes it even better#ill probably mainly only use characters that have swords/blades for fighting like runaan and soren and amaya and obviously rayla duh but i#also cannot wait to unlock the ability to play as callum#wanna see what kinda moves muh boy has!! and get his arc2 design too!!!!!#watch me being almost exclusively a rayla and callum and runaan player tbh#but anyway yeah i thought this was so funny cuz like sir i know youre talking about that scientist guy but you also just 100% described#callum and to rayla of all people this didnt help at all#tdp#tdp: xadia#tdp xadia#xadia#rayla#the dragon prince#continue the saga#continuethesaga#give us the saga#giveusthesaga#ive played like 5 hours of the game between last night and today and also requested s8-10 on 4 different times today twice while logged in#netflix is probably so annoyed with me rn#but i dont care i want them to be annoyed ❤️ greenlight arc3 ❤️ or there will be problems (aka ill cry)#dragon lady letters#edit: this just in ive realized that while making this post i didnt really have a proper idea of which characters actually use swords and#which dont lol#thought amaya would have a sword but looks like maybe not?#janai has a sword tho. fuck ye
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I hate when Chakotay is watered down to be Janeway's yes man because their disagreements are actually very interesting. [A lot of rambling analysis of this debate in particular below]
Chakotay in Parallax is very interesting in that he has to navigate a lot of different dynamics. Balance a lot of plates while being watched keenly by everyone around him. Immediately preceding this scene we see him ask B'Elanna for her opinion on the bridge - both as a chance to show her knowledge in his bid to make her chief engineer (because she wouldn't get a chance to otherwise as Janeway has clearly indicated that at this point she views B'Elanna as a troublemaker who won't be considered for the position) and because he just thinks she's a better engineer than Carey and wants the best possible chance of them succeeding. Janeway sees this as unacceptable. Carey is the chief engineer and so he should be called and Chakotay NOT asking for his opinion is an insult to Carey, Janeway, and might make the crew doubt Chakotay (and by extension the Maquis') loyalty to the Starfleet crew.
At this point it seems that to Janeway integration ["They're not your people"] means the path of least resistance, specifically tailored towards the Starfleet crew. She wants Chakotay by her side to keep the Maquis crew calm but also seems unwilling to consider them for important positions aboard the ship. Though she says that the Maquis are not Chakotay's people, not his crew, she certainly doesn't seem to consider them hers [Compare this to later instances where she stresses 'our' crew, here she simply says they aren't Chakotay's: Whose crew are they? Are they crew at all?]. This less leaves the impression of "We need to be a cohesive team" and more "You're not in charge here." She essentially accuses Chakotay of playing favorites. In her mind Chakotay's actions are not conducive to integrating the crews which would (again, in her mind) mean the Maquis being docile and accepting, obedient and content - not making trouble for the Starfleet crew. Chakotay counters Janeway's accusation with one of his own: That he IS trying to integrate them into the crew but her not allowing the Maquis any opportunity to prove themselves or succeed, not showing any trust in any of them (except, implicitly at this point, him) is making things difficult. At this point the Maquis crew are ready to mutiny on his word at any time. He knows this for a fact. Aside from that looming threat (the threat being that tensions are high and if nothing changes and they remain high there might be a mutiny even without his word) - Chakotay knows these people and trusts them. Though Starfleet and Janeway think of the Maquis as a violent bunch of criminal terrorists, Chakotay and a good number of the Maquis joined because they believed in the cause they were fighting for. These are people Chakotay knows WILL fight fiercely for what they believe in and conversely, AGAINST what they perceive as injustice. Even if they're not in the majority - they're used to picking fights which seem impossible to win. At this point Janeway admits that she ISN'T making it easy for Chakotay to integrate the Maquis - specifically talking about practical concerns; how she doesn't feel she can let Maquis crew have roles of importance on the ship because they lack the ability to hold them. "They don't have the discipline, they don't have the training," - asserting that they just aren't prepared for any such roles and it doesn't have to do with them being Maquis specifically. Ostensibly, she's treating them as she might treat anyone unqualified for the job.
Chakotay maintains that some of them, like B'Elanna, have the ability to be trained - challenging her point by saying that IF they're trained there's no reason for any Maquis member NOT to be given a more prominent role on the ship. He isn't suggesting they just unqualified people important jobs. If the problem is that they aren't trained, let's train them. These people have the ability to succeed if you give them the tools they need and a fair chance, he insists. Janeway then switches gears and her argument becomes not "The Maquis are untrained so they can't be given those jobs" but "The Maquis crew are unworthy of those jobs when compared to Starfleet personnel" saying that it'll cause insult and upset among the Starfleet crew if any member of the Maquis were to be promoted above them. Again, her idea of integration is based more on Maquis subservience to the Starfleet crew than it is the two crews working together. (Not that I believe she looks at it that way, it's just where her 'path of least resistance' leads) - though she accuses Chakotay of being too focused on "his" crew, she is admitting here that she believes her real crew are the Starfleet officers aboard, not the Maquis. She also admits here that the system she wishes to maintain (and is asking Chakotay to enforce) is one where there will ostensibly never be any chance of a Maquis crew member being promoted because no Maquis crew member will ever be more qualified, more worthy, than a member of Starfleet. We can see how it'd be difficult for Chakotay to convince his crew to remain calm under these circumstances. There's also Tuvok's behavior toward him at the beginning of the episode where the Vulcan nearly goes over Chakotay's head and when he doesn't do so (as Chakotay reminds him that HE'S the superior officer, the First Officer in fact,) Tuvok acts as if him backing down (partially) and conceding (partially) to Chakotay's authority is a favor to Chakotay.
Tuvok in this conversation is downright insubordinate to Chakotay. Despite Chakotay being the first officer, he doesn't take what he says seriously, argues that his own opinion on what should be done should be followed rather than Chakotay's, lectures the first officer about his conduct, and then almost seems to threaten him with a report. In Starfleet's rigidly hierarchical rules, acting like this to a superior officer (ESPECIALLY the first officer) wouldn't be tolerated and Tuvok knows this perfectly well. He isn't a rebellious character and clearly in other episodes adheres to these Starfleet hierarchies and codes of conduct very strictly. He values them highly. But Chakotay, a Maquis, shouldn't be First Officer. Why should he be given respect for a title he didn't earn? [Affirming Janeway's argument about how Starfleet officers won't be eager to follow a Maquis senior officer] Even though Chakotay tells Tuvok off for it ["I don't have to explain myself to you"] he doesn't threaten to put Tuvok on report or explicitly mention his insubordination. It's unclear if this is Chakotay's personality or if he just doesn't feel he CAN do that. Tuvok is one of the three most senior officers aboard and very close to Janeway. Chakotay has to think of the optics of any situation at all times - we see seconds after this conversation that rumors have already started swirling around B'Elanna being relegated to quarters that've fanned the flames of mutiny. Though we know Tuvok has personal reasons for behaving the way he does toward Chakotay (which he later admits), I really don't think it'd be out of the ordinary for this to be how most Starfleet personnel would treat the Maquis if they weren't outright hostile: Like they're only pretend crewmen. To a lesser extent we even see this with Janeway: In the following staff meeting, she clearly doesn't consider B'Elanna a viable option when Chakotay brings her up and almost ignores the suggestion entirely.
It also, again, leaves Chakotay in an impossible position. If he doesn't protect and fight for the Maquis crew, they won't ever be considered a true part of the crew and dissatisfaction will likely spread among them. Dissatisfaction which the Starfleet crew will then use to further label the Maquis as insubordinate, uncontrollable, unfit. Not to mention that if he doesn't advocate for them, he might lose their trust. However, if he DOES try to help the Maquis crew advance the Starfleet crew will view this as 'favoritism' and will further distrust him, won't respect the people he puts forth as worthy. Janeway seems to be intent on not advocating for any of the Maquis crew and also seems unwilling to ask that the Starfleet crew grant leniency. She implies that the Maquis crew need to learn to get in line and keep quiet and it seems almost like [we must remember the optics] she has Chakotay as the only Maquis in a position of power to facilitate that. Chakotay recognizes and pushes against that, saying that he won't just be her token Maquis - there only so she can point to him and say "See? We don't discriminate against the Maquis here." effectively a tool used to shut down any arguments of unfair treatment and a tool to quell the Maquis if any talk of mutiny DOES arise. In this model, Janeway can just tell Chakotay to calm them down and they'll listen because they trust him. She also doesn't have to really listen to anything he says: A token First Officer has no authority; his words don't hold weight. [Chakotay isn't Maquis anymore, they aren't his crew anymore - ok. What is he then? What are they? Nothing, without respect.] This plan seems untenable, as much as Janeway frames it as sensible: "I can't make it easy, Commander. Surely you can understand that," and alternatives as impossible "How am I supposed to ask them to accept a Maquis as their superior officer just because circumstances have forced us together?" - in the long run, how would this be sustainable? In any power structure, you cannot expect a group of people you're unwilling to grant trust or agency to obediently follow you forever. This proposed form of 'integration' in which the Maquis are kept on the bottom rung and told intermittently to stay there quietly by the only one of them granted permission to stand at the top would never be sustainable - especially with a group like the Maquis who again, were founded on the belief that its members should fight against inequity and are already on the verge of mutiny.
I specifically find the statement "How am I supposed to ask them to accept a Maquis as their superior officer just because circumstances have forced us together?" to be interesting because personally I'd say that being forced together for the rest of almost everyone's natural life is a pretty good reason to ask people to adapt and Janeway does understand this but only applies it to the Maquis - the Maquis are the ones who have to adapt, not Starfleet. The only thing the Starfleet crew have to do is tolerate their presence on board.
At this point Janeway again claims that if Chakotay can show her a 'qualified' Maquis candidate she'll consider them. I believe this is true but we already know that Janeway's standards for qualification will likely not fit the vast majority of the Maquis and Chakotay ignores the claim in favor of putting forth B'Elanna again, firmly. Janeway predictably dismisses her as unqualified and Chakotay disagrees, arguing that he knows her. He's worked with her. He KNOWS that B'Elanna can excel at the job even if she doesn't meet Starfleet/Janeway's qualifications. He doesn't value those qualifications over what he's observed about her - just as he didn't value Carey's title over what he knew about the gap between his and B'Elanna's abilities. Then, Chakotay switches gears. He admits that Janeway's right - he does view the Maquis as his crew but that's because Janeway (almost self admittingly) doesn't and if he doesn't, who will they have? [What kind of captain, kind of man, would he be?] "You're going to have to give them more authority if you want their loyalty." "Theirs or yours, Commander?" Janeway frames Chakotay's words pointing out the flaws in this plan which I outlined earlier, as almost a threat (if she doesn't have Chakotay's loyalty it'll most definitely mean mutiny). Chakotay asserts that it wasn't a threat, he's only trying to help by telling her how the Maquis crew will react to what she's telling him. "I'm sorry you can't see that" - not an apology for what he said but that she isn't willing to budge, not willing to listen to him and acknowledge that she might be as biased towards her crew as he is towards his. Chakotay is trying his best to acclimate his crew but if Janeway isn't willing to do the same, to talk to her people as he's talking to his, then this will not end well and that isn't a threat. It's just the reality of the situation. He then asks permission to leave, showing he is willing to observe Starfleet protocol (just as when he asked permission to speak freely), and Janeway lets him go, exhaling at the intensity of their debate when alone in her ready room.
#J/C is not interesting to me when they're strifelessly playing house or Chakotay is her lovesick yesman who'll do whatever she says#Kathryn Janeway#Chakotay#I really wish they'd kept up this kind of tension between the crews and used Tuvok/Janeway/Tuvok as like a microcosm of that tension#it'd be so good!!#Tuvok#<- he's there too#chara analysis#star trek voyager#st voy#Is this the only episode they call the ship 'The Voyager' ??#Also hearing Harry call Tom 'Mr Paris' is funny - early seasons voyager you have my heart early seasons voy supremacy#ANYWAY - that's beside the point#I do like how the maquis v starfleet tension is handled in this episode#I love how we see everyone start working together and relationships begin to form#How once B'Elanna shows her stuff Janeway is almost immediately intrigued and excited & how B'Elanna feeds off that excitement#The Doctor: -annoyed annoyed complaining complaining snarky comment- ugh I can't believe I have to help with something STUPID#Kes: You're very sensitive aren't you~? /gen /pos#The Doctor: ???? um ..... haha. idk. anyway I'm glad I could help :)#'how can we be seeing a reflection of something that we hadn't even done yet?' Voyager I love you MWAH#Tom Janeway B'Elanna: -temporal mechanics- / Harry: .... so how do we get out???#SUUCKS that in later seasons B'Elanna & Chakotay's relationship isn't focused on anymore but I mean. Every poc is pushed aside in later#seasons. But here you can see how much Chakotay believes in her and wants her to succeed!!! No wonder she likes him so much#He was probably one of the first people to really believe in her and SHOW IT and now Janeway's doing the same thing <3#My above post may paint Janeway somewhat negatively but it's only in the 'character flaws and being wrong about things means you have#a chance to grow' way - as soon as B'Elanna shows her potential Janeway wants to encourage it#God B'Elanna's so pretty#I forgot Seska was on the bridge!#'many of your teachers thought you had the potential to be an outstanding officer' SOMEONE SHOULD HAVETOLD HEEEER!!!!!!!!#WHY DID NO ONE TELL HEEER!!!!!
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Its hanging!! :D Yay! @birdmenmanga because you wanted to see it - here you go

And thank you so much!! I really wanted each fragment to be composed so it can be read as an individual piece!! So I'm happy it's noticeable <3

And omg!! @roastedpriv thank you!?!??!??? Katedra is like my fundamental inspiration overall when it comes to weird organic structures, so that's SUCH A COMPLIMENT AHHHHH
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