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Talking about mommy issues... I'm not a 100% fan of Jack as the destiel son BUT it's important to me that going there means acknowleding that "archetypically" speaking Dean is The Mother while Cas is The Father*. And this isn't just because, when Sam accuses Dean of acting like their father, he replies with a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one ("I'm not his mother"), it's also why Chuck's myth-retelling doesn't work (Abraham is totally Cas and he and Jack subverted that myth) 'cause first he doesn't understand Dean and second he's not an astute storyteller and doesn't realize his story was already subverting the myth he wanted to re-enact. Therefore he should've created a situation where Jack (The Son) was forced to kill Cas (The Father) if he wanted to provoke Dean, this was Jack's original sin according to Dean, come on Chuck, it's been 14 seasons, everybody already knew Dean was not gonna kill Jack. He's totally fine with caging and entrapping his putative sons but he draws a line at killing them (insert that meme from Community). (I mean, I know Chuck wants Dean to do his bidding but after 14 years he had to get a little more creative than that. Maybe he should've listened to his editor Metatron, just saying. "maybe less about detail and more about balance") ((hello Becky and Metatron parallel)).
It would have also meant that Jack's story would've gone back to its genesis + the long tail of dead parental figures (not only Kelly and Cas but Nick/Lucifer and Mary and whoever else I'm forgetting lol).
By the end of s14 there is a short-circuits of symbols so it all had to go tits up, hence the rising of the dead etc. etc.
*This doesn't mean they are the Good Mother and the Good Father as they're clearly not but these are the primordial energies that they both channel to Jack. Also, obvs patriarchy in SPN is very much alive and well as demonstrated by the fact that the Good Mother and the Good Father are only the Dead Mother and the Dead Father and unfortunately for Jack this is what he got when he was born. He's not even born and he already lives in an ideal world with ideal figures compared to whom he'll always fall short.
Also, Jack's got the power to wake up from the Empty his putative father because his Mother (Dean) is grieving his death and he wants to please him: Jack is a total mama's boy.
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Alex Irvine, "John Winchester's Journal" | 3.07, "Fresh Blood"
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I honestly, truly, 100% believe that for a relationship to work with either Winchester brother, you need to be just as much a freak as they are.
Wanna date Dean? You gotta love Sam. Understand that Sam is number one in Dean’s life. You gotta take care of Sammy, love him, nurture him, be there for him. Be the second pillar alongside Dean when things get rough.
Wanna date Sam? You gotta love Dean. You have to be a force of nature in taking care of Dean. Rough housing him into dingy motel bathrooms to take care of wounds from hunts. Sneak veggies into his meals. Remind him how great of a guy he is. Throw a box of condoms at his head to ensure he’s safe with all his hookups (unless Sammy is willing to share. Those two have always shared everything.)
You have to understand that you’ll never be number one in either of their lives. But if you understand them, and help them; you may just be tied with the other brother in each Winchester’s heart.
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How I see the world since I watched Supernatural:
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Here's a thought.
Sam has been irrevocably changed since his coming back from hell (and jumping in of course). So often I find myself looking at later season's Sam, a Sam who's not a firey rebel against what the world wants of him, a Sam who would fight for himself. This is a quietly submissive Sam who can't stand to disappoint Rock No.1. Someone who takes on pain again and again and again because he's so used to it.
Sam from the first seasons it's not the same Sam as the later. This is a broken, traumatized man who excels at being high functioning and I am SO sure of it.
He LOOKS resigned and tired a lot of the time. And it reminds me of hell!Sam begging himself not to remember. hell!Sam knew what he was talking about and what we're seeing in later seasons is his reflection.
And let me throw in a Silmarillion reference because why the heck not. Like the souls of elves go to Mando's halls, Sam's soul needed to go to heaven and heal from all the years of hell he suffered (earthly ones and hell ones). He was not ready to be reembodied in earth and now he's come wrong.
Like 5 different entities warned us about Sam's shredded to ribbons soul. To me, that doesn't sound like a soul that should've been put back in a body.
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I really really don't go out of the way to learn about bts stuff in supernatural so I have no idea if this is actually a thing, but I guarantee, GUARANTEE, that in the episode Sex & Violence, season 4 episode 14, when they were originally writing the episode the monster of the week was a succubus but once they got to the whole Sam and Dean drama of the episode they were like "hmm maybe it doesn't really fit to have this whole thing happen with a Sex demon... Oh I Know!" and they just changed the name of the monster to siren and changed exactly Nothing else in the script
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“Maybe you should seek queer stories in actual gay media” okay fuck you.
1. Any story can be gay if you’re brave enough.
2. Gay and political news deliverer Castiel is canonically a gay angel and
3. If Dean—There’s people. Feelings. That I want to experience differently, or maybe for the first time—Winchester is straight then maybe we should reevaluate heterosexuality as a whole.
AND ALSO you know what
Fucking 4rth of all. They’re fictional fucking characters, dude. If i wanna reflect my queerness on this screwed up mess of a man who literally hunts fairy dust monsters for a living. Then i fucking will. He’s fictional and so fucking complex as a character that if i wanted to make him real, then I could make him up to be whatever I wanted.
AND. AND 5th of all, babe. Text and subtext are two totally different things. Subtext is up for interpretation. It is silently laid out for the viewer to appreciate and scrutinize. To puzzle and question. And this subtext just so happens to be gay as shit and really really obvious.
So fuck me for filling in the dots. Christ. You have brain and suddenly you’re the antichrist around here
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Lukewarm take:
I think that Dean dying in the finale could have worked if it were of something non supernatural such as an illness or an accident (or if you’re sick and twisted, a house fire where he saves two kids).
This would have kept in line with the arguably ‘bury your gays’ trope they got going, would have been tragic, I would have been angry, but at least it would have said something. It would have grounded the show and characters, underlined the fact that God (supreme father figure) has left the narrative. Once again, bonus point if it calls back to his childhood.
John left, God left, and now only he remains to suffer the consequences. The ultimate Christ figure (though this role was usually Sam’s but I’m focusing on Dean).
Regardless of your feelings on destiel, having Dean die the way he did is just bad writing. It feels rushed and half baked. There’s no dramatic irony there. I’m not saying that this is the best way to end the show, far from it, but at least it wouldn’t have been pissing in the wind like what we actually got.
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Because I'm a massive sucker for it, I think Dean and Cas would literally dissolve if a deaged Jack made them suspiciously sticky Father's Day cards. Dean would remember Sam bringing one home too, and being the recipient as John was absent and burst into extremely manly tears. While Cas, who also got one deeply casually from Claire would probably just go slightly catatonic.
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more of the stanford/s1 era Dean with a baby (is it Emma? is it a baby half-sibling? is it a product of a one-night stand? use your imagination)
@saintedcastiel mentioned Dean breaking into Sam’s apartment wearing a baby bjorn. I think Dean would have had the baby wave at Jess, and Sam would have been completely gobsmacked
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Suptober - Day 1;
Maze/Maize
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“They’re dead, and it’s all my fault.” The words sounded hollow, but he didn’t think anyone could blame him for that. After all, the hunt went south because of him. People got hurt, got killed, because of him. Because Sam got scared and froze, like a baby. It didn’t even matter that he got hurt too—that’s what he deserved, wasn’t it? A fitting sort of punishment for a screw-up like that.
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The Winchester brothers? Oh I think you mean Sam Leahy and Dean Singer <3 I think their mom is Mary Campbell-Winchester so maybe that's where you got confused <3
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