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Wishful Thinking
Have I met the guy yet? No. Is that going to stop me? Also no.
Content: Tokyo Debunker selfship stuff (Jiro Kirisaki), first-person POV, angst????
Word Count: 876 words

A black hole’s gravitational pull is so strong that not even light can escape it.
That’s what this curse felt like. This large thing on the horizon that just keeps on getting closer and closer.
It started in small ways, that the clock had inadvertently sped up its course, streaks of grey now intermingling with the other strands of hair. They said that I would die in a year’s time, they just weren’t expecting the body to reflect that in some way.
The hour is late, the hallways dark save for the blue light coming from the night sky from the overlooking windows.
Sleep has always been a struggle, and now with the timer surely set, I find it even more bothersome to fall asleep. Shifting. Turning. Only to bury my head into the pillows and scream my frustration, something that I paid close attention to hide from others. I don’t need them worrying more than they already are. I don’t want to be a burden.
The ring on my hand feels heavier than it usually does — a stark reminder that all of this is very much real and not some dream. Its weight is almost mocking in a sense.
Never chosen. It’s something that I’ve always lamented about in the past. Never the first pick. Now fate was going, ‘here, I’ve chosen you for this’. Maybe I should have been more specific.
The hallway was silent, save for my own quiet footsteps. Honestly, I’m surprised that there wasn’t one other soul out at this hour.
I start humming a melody.
I don’t know why, but it feels right.
Well, nothing feels right, but the slight echoing off of the walls makes it feel less lonely. It takes the weight off of my shoulders. At this moment in time there is black hole threatening to swallow me. There is no curse. And I’m still me.
I face the window and look at the night sky, looking up at all of the stars.
Even though many of them have burnt out long ago, the light still finds us in this mass universe. We still tell stories associated with the constellations — over there is Delphinus — and children still make wishes on a shooting star.
I close my eyes, enjoying the reprieve of silence.
Life has been too busy. Too loud. Too … fleeting.
Am I really living? Or am I busying myself so that I don’t overthink and spiral? … it’s most likely the latter.
Faintly I can make out footsteps as they get closer. I hope they keep on walking. Unfortunately, the owner of the pair of feet stops in the same hallway that I’m in.
I take in a breath, preparing to put on the smile that I always don, the one that says don’t worry about me, the one that pleases. I open my eyes, trying to find the person in the dim lighting.
It takes a moment to find him, as he’s standing a few windows down, also looking at the sky. His face is blank, devoid of emotion as his red eyes meet mine.
Jiro Kirisaki… he’s from Mortkranken. Yeah. He helped treat me.
I just give him a small smile, more so out of politeness than anything else. Honestly, we haven’t interacted much outside of our first initial meeting. I know that other students call him ‘Frankenstein’ but I honestly don’t see why.
He doesn’t smile back but does seem to silently acknowledge the meeting. We both go back to looking outside at the night sky.
“You’re up late,” I say quietly, breaking the silence.
He glances out of the corner of his eye to look at me before looking back out the window. “So are you.”
I sigh, resting my elbows on the windowsill and then resting my chin in my palms. “Insomnia,” I offer and he just nods.
And it’s silent again, save for the rustling of leaves outside. I’ve never been the best with lulls in conversation, wanting to just fill it with something, afraid the other would grow bored of me and resent it. Jiro didn’t seem to mind though.
A thin streak of light passed across the sky.
I open my mouth before thinking, “Make a wish.”
Jiro just looks at me with a questioning look.
“A shooting star… you make a wish when you see one,” I offer, feeling heat starting to lick at my cheeks. Hopefully the darkness of the hallway conceals that. “But you can’t tell anyone your wish or it won’t come true.” A smile flickers on my face, and I hope that I don’t look like a fool.
Jiro just hums and looks outside again, “You should make one too.”
I blink, looking at him for a moment. He looks back. Usually I’m good at reading people, but I can’t garner anything from his expression.
I think for a moment, contemplating.
Jiro looks back outside, looking up at the moon, “The moon is beautiful, isn’t it?”
I look up at it, “It is.”
I wish … I wish I could be truly happy. I can’t change the curse, my fate being in the hands of others. But in the time I have left, I want to be happy. I can die happy.
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Tag: @cherievivi
#dove writes#dove's selfship stuff#i'll do a post later with tkdb!dove since i have traditional art for it and need to edit my notes#writing on my main for once? A SHOCKER!!!
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"𝑰𝒔 𝒎𝒚 𝒉𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒚 𝒃𝒖𝒏𝒏𝒚 𝒔𝒊𝒄𝒌?"
summary: just my favourite characters taking care of reader when shes sick
genre: hurt to comfort, full fluff
warnings: reader has a personality similar to me!, fem reader, nothing else, double suicide joke on dazai
a/n: guys please I am so sick right now I feel sohdghdgdhd if only there was someone who could send me some sakilai selfship stuff/j
"nikolaiiiii" you whine from your bed eyes too teary to reach out wherever he is.
"Ah, my dove, I am coming right now" he shouts from outside of your room running in with a packed box of soup.
Unfortunately because of nikolais amazing cooking skills he failed to make a simple cup of soup. So he decided to order from takeout.And that soup is the food you need to eat right now.
"feed me please..." you state when he placed the bowl of soup and sat down next to you."Dove i think you can feed yous-" you only sniffed and looked at him with teary eyes which instantly made a certain feeling of guilt rise up in his stomach.
"fine then. Guess I will have to take care of my lovely crybaby girlfriend!" nikolai jokes before using taking off his gloves using his teeth and putting them aside, which you always considered a very handsome and hot thing for him to do.
His bare hands pick up the spoon full of soup and vegetables and gently slides it into you mouth, as fragile like a glass doll.
"Also I am not a crybaby! It was an act for you to feed me" you puff to which gogol gasps a bit too dramatically "you pesky silly! Come here daddy's going to punish you kittem" he jokingly says putting the bowl of soup on the bed side.
"HELP nikolai that is not funny! Stop THAT IS NOT FUNNY AT ALL. I am sick!!" you cry out getting out of his way which fails as he lunges towards you and holds you in his grasp
"I was joking! Calm down (name) I just want to hug your germs away." "Those germs will hug you back but okay!"
You sneakily crept up to the fridge before opening it, looking for a tub of icecream before finding it instantly. You reach out to grab it but before your hand can get any closer a hand slams the door shut.
You don't turn around to the figure behind you and swallow a spit, scared of the man's creepy and menacing smile from behind you.
"Now now, isn't my dear supposed to be in bed resting? So I wonder who this woman here is" his sarcastic voice rings in your ears as you slowly turn around.
"Fedya hahaha what are you doing here ahaha aren't you supposed to work?" you nervosuly laugh before you start coughing again, more ferocious this time.
His cruel and irritated shade hovering his eyes become more soft and tendor as he picked you up over his shoulders like a pack of potatoes and carried you to the bedroom.
"Fyodor? Since when did you become s-augh augh strong-?" you asked clearly shocked at his sudden romantic move.
"Say that again I am giving you medieval style treatment." "WH- wait how do you know medieval tre--"
Before you could finish your sentence, he throws you on the bed in the gentlest way before sitting down next to you and grabbing a medicine.
"please tell me it's not those swallow pills. I hate them like you everyone in Yokohama hates you" you pout but he only glares at you for a second.
"I mean- I love you hahaha, you know" you laugh it off and look at his nail bitten fingers elegantly take the spoon of the liquid and holds it up to you lips.
"ew that looks like pink vomit" you get away from the spoon infront of you. "(name) I didn't ditch my work for this, it feels like I am taking care of a child rather then my significant other."
"wellll you still counted me as your significant other so" you tease him, trying to make him forget about the medicine.
"(name)" his voice is colder than your cold and you only look at him with puppy glistening eyes. "can.. can you feed me with your mouth? a sickly kiss?" you ask innocently.
"you are already sick fedya, please?" he only sighs at your statement, knowing it's stupid and silly to argue with you.
He takes the medicine in his mouth and pulls you closer to push it in. It tastes bitter, but his lips make it sweet. It only lasts a moment but cures that starving feeling in your heart.
He pulls away as you swallow the liquid before tucking your self under the covers and start giggling like a school girl.
"sigh,,,please don't eat anything cold, your sickness will only worsen. Take your pills daily and I will send some chocolates later, okay? Don't be too much of a hassle"
"Bellllaaaaaa, i got you your favourite food!" his voice soothes out like a lullaby to your ears as you rise up from your bed and rush towards him.
"zai-zai!" But before you could say anything your head starts spinning and everything seems dizzy.
He keeps the bag of food on the table before rushing to catch you. "WOAH bella, can't have you spinning to death now can we! You told me if you had to die you wanted to die with me! Together"
He says picking you up bridal style and laughing at the swirls in your eyes. "i am here feeling like I just hot down from some Rollercoaster and your here joking? I swear to god dazai this is why you can't pull hoes"
"why would you say that bella? You pull germs" he pouts like a child but was probably smirking inside at his cheeky remark.
"You little manwh-" "shhh lets eat soem chocolate cheesecake shall we?" he places you on the side of your bed and brings the packets of cakes and slowly lays it down infront of you.
You sick and tired looking eyes glow up. "I want the cheesecake!" you announce to him as dazai laughs before opening the packet and taking a spoonful of the desert before motioning you to open your mouth.
He feeds you it whole slowly, which you only giggle "i didnt new yuo weer so living, dezai" you mumble chewing on the contents.
"finish your food first bella, then you can compliment your amazing BOYFRIEND HAHAHA" he laughs before getting up to clear up the packets.
While he does that you snuggle up to your bed before coughing for a while. "come join me, love" you motion him which your boyfriend does as he lays himself next to you
"Oh my bella, I hope you get well soon I can't wait to kiss you and hug you and maybe even fall off the bridge with you!"
You moved away from the camera turning on the record button and started dancing to the choreography of 'detention' by melanie martinez which by the way you should actually check out.
However as you were swifting your movements according to the dance you heard a Click and ran to you bed, but you only had a second to choose a sleep position before yosano can come.
"(name) I am not that stupid." she opens the door to enter the room as she looks at your pretend sleeping position.
"You can just dance hystericaly while you have a bad cold and have iron cells lesser than than the literacy rate in japan" your girlfriends scolding hits you hard so you decided to get up, what's the point.
"As much as i wish i could see more of you dancing" she continues, "You need to get better for it, I dont want you fainting once again like yesterday.
"who knew you could joke" you whine out. Yosano takes a chair and takes a place beside you. "I am not that serious, love. Now let me check your fever."
She takes off her gloves and presses her hand on your forehead. "Hmm, you have long way to fully recover" her voice is much softer than when she was scolding you.
"huhhh, that's not fair...i dont want to be bedridden for soooo long :(" your eyes start looking teary again, nose red from the heavy coughing from when she was taking care of you last night.
she sighs, "awhh my baby, there there. This is why I told you to take the medicines. But you didn't listen did you" you look up to her eyes glossy like a child who needs to be cared.
She kisses your forehead before getting up.
"I wish I could kiss your cold away however it won't work like that instead I will cook you your favourite chicken soup for you okay?"
a/n: man i hate my hoarse throat aughhhh I want fedya to take care of me rn *cough cough*
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Oh damn, haven't been on here for a long time....
Anyways, hi. I'm back again with a teeny, weeny little favor. Uncomfortable coughs...
doing commissions stuff :D
I..don't really, like uh, doing this. And I'm really sorry in advance 🧍
I don't, uh, normally feel comfortable doing this, especially online. But as of right now, I'm stuck in a pretty difficult situation, and there's a lot of problems for me right now and I'm not sure what else to do.
So first off, um. Hi, hello. I'm...lotusarchon - some of you already know me as Ali, or Usagii, or Lotus (or that one fanfic writer on ao3 ha).
I’m in a pretty tough spot right now. My home situation is... well, not great. My dad’s pretty toxic (an alcoholic twat), and it’s been hard to even get the basics I need to survive, like food and stuff because uh, yay...dads are great. I've tried my best to apply for jobs physically to help myself, but unfortunately there's nothing available, and the work that is available aren't in my area, and I don't drive and I don't have the expenses to get back and forth to be able to apply for these jobs, much less anyone I can count on in my real life to help me through.
I’ve been writing for a while now (if you aren't familiar with me hsuadjah), and I've been really active in the Lego Monkie Kid and Chinese-mythology related fandoms (Black Myth Wukong, JTTW, FSSY, Fei Ren Zai, the Nezha films, etc), and it's one of the only talents I have, so I've decided to try doing commissions!
But uhh...the one downside is, because of my country, Trinidad, (and bank account), I can't accept payments via Paypal, Kofi, etc - my bank doesn't allow foreign transactions specifically, so I can't really accept payments via these things. The only, one way that I'm able to access fees is via Western Union.
I know this is a lot to ask, especially when others are having it worst and their own issues to deal with, and I'm sorry. I'm really just trying to survive as best as I can right now. Um, if it's an issue, I can also help with signing up...for the Western Union...so you won't need to stress about it.
And I won't charge for much, and I'm willing to write anything for the specific fandoms -
- Lego Monkie Kid
- JTTW / Black Myth Wukong
- Nezha 2019 and 2025
-- Jujutsu Kaisen
-- Naruto + Shippuden
-- Demon Slayer
-- MXTX's works (SVSSS, MDXS, TGCF)
And I can also write -
- canon x canon, canon x oc/yumeships (or selfships), and ofc canon x reader
- any ship dynamics (but I'd prefer if you asked me first?), and any ships!
- nsfw/smut, dead dove, fluff, angst, a mix
- oneshots, drabbles, multichapter fics
The prices can be discussed because I'm...not really sure what the cost should be for my writing. But, again - I'll write first before you pay, so you won't have to pay for anything you don't like.
And I won't force anyone to help or anything of that sort. If you can help, please do, but if you can't, that's okay. Just, um, reblog I guess.....
If you can't contact me on this account, you can find me on my alt, @buniibloom , and my discord user is yuxiibun !
Bye bye!
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Proshipper ≠ comshippers ≠ dark/problematicshipper
Even though it may seem silly, these labels do not mean the same thing! Each one has its meaning and use even though they sound "similar".
Proshipper:
A person who is "pro" (for) shipping in general. Typically refers to someone who follows the philosophy "ship and let ship" and ignore or blocks ships or shippers they are uncomfortable with. An anti-censorship stance that promotes currating your own experience online, and avoiding any content you don't want to interact with, while supporting the rights of others to create and consume any type of fiction they enjoy.
Your basic "idea" would be:
don't like, don't look
don't harass people, especially over fiction
ship and let ship
curate your own internet experience
tag your stuff and blacklist stuff
mind your own business and i'll mind mine
dead dove, don't eat
Comshippers - Comship
A ComShipper is someone who enjoys more complicated or complex ships. These can include "dead dove" content, morally gray, problematic, socially unacceptable, abusive, or toxic dynamics. Comshippers do not endorse these things in the real world, but enjoy them in fiction.
Most comshippers are proshippers, but MOST proshippers are not comship.
Small examples:
Employee x boss
Human x non-human
Age difference but both older
Minor x minor
Non-human x non-human
Selfship
Selfcent
(and much more)
Darkship - Darkshipper
Darkship (also known as problematic ship) is a subcategory of Comship, which covers all types of ships that are considered illegal or immoral.
Small examples:
Minor x adult
Adolescent x adult
Minor x adolescent
Victim x perpetrator
Killer x victim
Animal x human
Family x family
dead x alive
(These are some examples)
(I suffered doing this, there are many pages that give so many different versions)
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The proshipping problem in the twst fandom | A rant.
Very obvious trigger warning for things normal for proshippers like p3dophilia, incest, etc.
Though I do know proshippers will be in every single fandom, it's getting especially worse in the twst fandom, specifically the Japanese side of the fandom (with some discussions about some in the English side too).
Before any proshippers come into the comment section: Proshipping is NOT a healthy coping mechanism. If your therapist recommended it, they should be fired.
This post is not to dehumanize and degrade underage proshippers as they have been obviously groomed into believing that it was okay to ship this sort of stuff.
The actual elephant in the room we WILL be shunning is the adult proshippers who actively encourage children (either actually or under law) to proship.
Before getting fully deep in this subject, I would like to admit something that I've talked about before.
I was a proshipper when I was younger than what I am now. This was because, not getting into too much detail, I was groomed by a man online to the point that i thought it was okay.
Not only was I a proshipper but I was also a darkshipper, problematic comshipper, and also supported the things present in Dead Dove fanfics.
In fact, I had an account on some sort of forum page with other proshippers and I shared my nasty ships there. I believed it was a good way of desensitizing myself to my trauma that fucked me up heavily, but it wasn't and it was making me relive the same trauma which in return, made it worse.
This is why I say that I do not want anyone to shun underage proshippers, they were groomed into it half of the time.
Now that I'm 18 (About to turn 19 on February 14th), I finally understand that proshipping is an unhealthy way of approaching your trauma and pain.
It may feel like it does something, but it really doesn't. And I want to reassure you that you're not alone in your pain, please, find other ways to cope and process what has happened to you that doesn't include glorifying very nasty things.
Now with that out the way, I would like to say what the title says.
Proshippers in the twst fandom has sadly grown overtime, but my niece made a very good point; stating that since twst does have a slightly dark story, that people with dark and nasty thoughts and ideas will be attracted to it, much like a moth to a flame that damages it's already fragile body.
There have been adults in the twst proshipper area, and I think they're the main cause of fueling minors in the fandom to do the same thing. Maybe with or without knowing the eventual psychological consequences.
The adults who are aware sadly lure and prey on the gullible underage individuals of the fandom, and though that might seem like an overexaggeration; it sadly is true.
I am Japanese, well, half-Japanese. But even then, due to that fact, I'm more prevalent in the Japanese fandom than the English fandom though I am trying to balance out both.
Since I am more present in the Japanese side of the fandom than I am with the English side (because I'm basically like an absent dad that went off to get the milk and never came back until years), I have seen a lot of shit in here and it's very scary even to this day.
Though the English side of the fandom is as equally bad, the Japanese side is worse with the whole l0li and sh0ta thing. Sadly I have seen English twst accounts do those things too.
The most popular proshipper you may know is Ugigi or however the fuck you spell her name, whether one likes to admit it or not, her selfships were very much proshipping. This is mainly due to how her OC could've been her actual age which was in her 20s if I'm remembering correctly.
But let's say the OC wasn't, it would still be problematic (but not in the proship way) since the characters she drew NSFW of were mainly the minors (again, if I remember correctly). If her OC was her actual age then she would be a proshipper.
However, watever the age of the OC she always drew, it's obvious that it was still leaning more on proshipping because that indicates that she's attracted to the characters despite knowing they're minors (and not even aging them up by the way).
So, very nasty, I was thinking of putting her In the TWs 😭
All jokes aside, proshipping is disgusting.
In fact, must I bring up any other thing?
LEECHCEST.
WHAT.
Well, you heard that right, people ship Floyd and Jade. Seriously, what is wrong with you guys. And I think I know why this ship is so popular in the Japanese fandom; The fact incest is not necessarily illegal in Japan in a way.
Yeah. You heard me correctly. I'm horrified and scarred for life <3
"Surely there isn't anymore I shall talk about, right? Right?? RIGHT?!?" I exclaim, not expecting anything else to come from the sky and hit me.
Then boom..
SHROUDCEST.
OH FUCK NOT AGAIN.
So, apparently people ship a dead robotic little boy with his big brother.. yeah... FNAF fandom called, they're telling you not to steal their bit much like how Deejus is trying to tell Johnny RaZeR not to steal his "YOUTUBEEE" outro bit that.. he also stole.
It can't get any worse than this, right? This is definitely the last tier of the iceberg, surely? Perhaps??-
KINGSCHOLARCEST.
Okay, now we're pushing it, this bit is getting old but whatever.
Kingscholarcest can refer to three (disgusting) "ships": A nasty ship of Cheka x Leona, a nasty ship of Falena x Leona, or a nasty ship of Falena x Leona x Cheka.
Sweet home Alabama all around but more extreme..
I think we all know why these ships are not okay and are disgusting (ESPECIALLY CHEKA X LEONA SINCE CHEKA IS A GOO GOO GA GA BABY.)
Finally.. It's over.. I can go back to ranting!-
FELLOW X GIDEL.
JESUS CHRIST STOP.
This madness needs to stop because if not I'm going to pull my fucking hair out!-
LILMAL, SILVER X LILIA, S-
OKAY STOP IT RIGHT HERE,, THE BIT IS OLD NOW.
So, I think you get my point.
Borderline incestuous ships, the drake specialty, and straight up sweet home right to Alabama.
Now, let's put aside the jokes and get serious again.
With all the things I have stated, you can definitely see the absolute horror of some parts of the fandom.
There's accounts that are VERY hypocritical, saying "P3dos DNI" when they are a sh0ta/l0licon. This is the literal definition of hypocrisy at it's finest.
There are mfs who have unironically said that Cheka was hot and romantically cute.. HE'S 7 YEARS OLD. OR MAYBE YOUNGER. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER BUT I DO KNOW HE IS A CHILD.
I have said this MANY times before and I'll say it again; if that characters looks like a child, THEY ARE A CHILD.
Even if you age up characters like Ortho, Cheka, etc. You are still self-reporting that you're attracted to a literal child.
Fiction DOES affect reality no matter if you try to plug your mickey mouse ears with your fingers (or paws, I don't know) to gaslight yourself into believing it doesn't truly affect it.
In fact, there have been cases where people have been arrested for having l0li/sh0ta on their devices, though, sadly, its not a long sentence despite how it should be lifelong.
But even without the lifelong sentence, the law still considers l0li/sh0ta CSAM. (I hate calling it CP now since that implies that kids can do that in their own will.)
A grown adult proshipper even told me when I criticized Kanna from dragon maid for being a little girl the author sexualizes to no end all because I said that she doesn't have a listed age that I was being "contradicting" and I think this proves that.. proshippers DON'T know what contradictions ACTUALLY are because they've gaslit so much into believing this disgusting behavior is normal and okay to do.
And don't get me started on Dead Dove cai, chai, etc. bots and fanfics.
Dead Dove, proshipping, problematic comshipping, darkshipping, doveshipping, etc. doesn't give out awareness to the horrors of such depraved acts.
Another very nasty thing I've seen in the TWST fandom is people shipping the staff with the students, mainly Crewel with Deuce.
Teacher x Student is disgusting no matter what. Teachers are always more grown than the students, so yeah, teachers aren't the anime boy or girl of your dreams or something, he or she's going to be old and otherwise not "attractive" and young.
The training to become a teacher and any profession in fact will take years, which means you'll grow and turn old.
I understand many say "Well, it's just fiction!" but these people seem to forget that young individuals, especially young girls, can see these teacher x student fiction and will probably, in the worst case scenario, get the wrong impression from it, ESPECIALLY if the media glamorizes and romanticize it, and sadly become a victim.
Crewel, If I'm not wrong, is 31 meanwhile Deuce and the other first years that [Crewel] mainly gets shipped with are 16 years old.
This is not only a disgusting, vomit-inducing age gap but huge maturity gap whether one likes to admit so or not.
Yanderes especially in the twst fandom get romanticized, and people seem to forget the reality of the abuse that yanderes put their "love interest(s)" through.
And I think this is why fandoms (not just twst) should stop romanticizing yanderes and student x teacher, and vice versa.
Besides, these two tropes are grooming even if the victim is not a minor, adults and the elderly alike can also be groomed especially if they're gullible and need to depend on someone (for either a disability or something).
People will probably invalidate my point but I don't budge from what I said.
Sorry if this posts looks rushed and/or maybe even incoherent to some, I just wanted to get this off my chest and stuff.
I should start ranting more, I like yapping so yeah, expect more whenever I'm bored :3
Anyways, BAIIII!!
YOUTUBEEEEEE flies away into the void to the right
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It is a wonderful life...
Hello, I'm Honey or Dove, I'm 20 years old and I'm a proshipper! I use he/they/she pronouns with no preference as to which you use. I mainly made this account to discuss topics pertaining to discourse, and to gush about my selfships. I'm a huge nerd, I really like TTRPG's, Pokemon, videogames, sci-fi, and more stuff like that.
Link to my selfship list is here
Warnings
I will add to this list as things need to be tagged so for now it'll be pretty empty
Discourse discussion
General discussion of dark fiction and dark tropes and genres
Selfshipping
Nsfw content (warnings will be added)
Plushophilia
Cannibalism
Rape/dubcon/cnc
Sh0tacon
Pokephilia
"Weird" kinks (piss, a/b/o, etc..)
DNI
I'm aware these generally don't work, but whatever, if it bothers you that I have one block me ig
Pro-c for any nonconsensual paraphilias
True crime fans who romanticize real criminals and murderers
Radqueer or transid or transharmful or whatever shit you guys call yourselves
Conservative, right leaning, or trump supporter - in a similar vein, dni if you're racist, homophobic, transphobic, antisemetic, xenophobic, or anything along those lines
Support Israel in any way
Antis
Minors, my account is 18+
People who dislike selfshipping/yumeshipping
#proship#proship safe#op is a proshipper#proshipper safe#antis dni#profiction#profic#proshipper#anti anti#proshipping#proshippers please interact#proship intro#intro post
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Light in the Dark
Actually building the Jive dynamic.
Content; Tokyo Debunker selfship stuff (Jiro Kirisaki), first-person POV, angst and fluff
Word Count; 1.2K

I’m on the ground.
My ears are ringing, my eyesight blurry. I can feel someone holding onto my arm, but I can’t see or hear them, not truly anyways.
The next thing I know, I’m being picked up by someone. The shock alone of the sensation brought me back down to earth again for a brief moment. Just long enough for my brain to recognize the head of dark hair and tired crimson eyes behind a set of black-framed glasses. And then I was out again.
Coming to, I blink in the harsh clinical lighting, taking in that I was in a hospital bed and a machine was keeping track of my vitals. No one was sitting in the chairs beside my bed. While I wasn’t expecting anyone it didn’t lessen the disappointment or the heavy feeling in my chest.
How could anyone know if they weren’t there? But someone was there, I just can’t remember who.
I was going to do something … but I’m drawing a blank.
Memory issues were pretty standard for me, but the curse is just magnifying them. The heart monitor spikes a bit and I reign in my thoughts, not wanting someone to have to check on me because of a panicking brain.
The curtain separating my bed from the rest of the room opens, and a face that’s becoming more and more familiar enters my … room, yeah, I guess you can call it a room.
Jiro stands there for a moment, “You’re awake, good.” And he starts checking my vitals.
“How long was I out?” I tap my fingers on my thighs — when did I get changed into a gown? — moreso as to not overly focus on what he was doing.
He switches out the IV. “Five hours and thirty seven minutes.”
I wet my lips, running my tongue over my teeth. “Did … did you change me?” mentally, I’m slapping myself at the question. Would it make this better or worse if he did or didn’t?
This pauses him, and he briefly glances at me. “I did.”
Simple. Straightforward. Blunt. But also it’s comforting. Nothing is being hidden, and if he had anything extra to say, he would.
He looks away, looking through my charts, the only sound in the room coming from the machine, our quiet breathing, and the clock ticking on the wall. I’ve always hated hospitals — hell, I avoided going to the doctor when possible back when my life was normal — but this was … tolerable in a sense.
“What happened?” I break the silence, not liking how I could hear the heart monitor speeding up a bit at my own anxiety. Stop beating so much, you rat!!! “And did you pick me up?”
The faint memory of being held was branded into my mind. Out of all the things it decides to remember, it decides to file being bridal carried into the ‘important’ pile.
“Your blood sugar dropped and you fainted,” Jiro answers, handing me a juice box, “and yes, I carried you.”
I look at the juice box — apple. “Ah.” So eloquent. “Thank you.”
He tilts his chin, even though his facial expressions don’t tell much, I could tell that he wasn’t used to being thanked.
“For carrying me,” I explain, popping the straw into the box. “I’m not exactly ligh-”
“It’s no problem,” he lightly cuts me off before I could finish what I was saying. And by his tone, it really was no problem. “But make sure you’re eating enough and getting enough fluids. Don’t want you fainting on me again.”
I can see the corner of his mouth slightly twitch, a small smile, before it’s gone again. I’m thankful that he didn't point out that my heartrate picked up in speed for a brief moment after he said that.
So, Jiro has a secret fun side to him. It’s dry and doesn’t differ much but … it fits him.
“How’s the juice?”
I look up, taking in the last bit. “Good,” I mull over a thought before biting the bullet, “but don’t you know that an apple a day keeps the doctor away?”
I’m mentally cringing at my own joke, but I can hear a gentle huff coming from him and from where I’m sitting I can see a pulling at the sides of his mouth. A laugh, a small one, but still a laugh.
“Those don’t contain a full apple,” he merely muses, finishing up his check in.
Seemingly happy with whatever he found, he moves to grab a flashlight. “Can you tilt your chin up and focus on this light?”
I do as he asks, looking into the flashlight, leaving me blinking the spots away as I try not to focus on his face. He nods, writing down whatever he concluded from that.
“Your vitals look fine. Your blood sugar was low which is the reason why you fainted. Have you been stressed lately?” He glances at me. There’s no malice in it, he’s merely just asking.
If this were anyone else, I would have probably snapped a smart remark or been sassy about it. “A bit more than usual,” I answered instead. Honest but holding back.
“Than usual?”
Fuck. “Just … everything is so new. I’m also dealing with my curse on top of everything,” and have no idea if anything can be done about it. I swallow, thinking. “Just, everything is unknown and changing. So, yeah, more than usual.”
He nods and writes that down. “Well, focus on making sure you’re eating enough. As for the stress… you know yourself best to find something to help ease with that. Burning yourself out won’t help anyone and will only end up hurting yourself more.”
“Is the last bit medical advice?”
This causes Jiro to pause in taking his notes, mulling it over. “A mixture of medical and personal advice, I suppose.”
He unhooks me from the heart monitor, and I’m thankful that it couldn’t snitch me out anymore. “I’ll consider that. Your medical and personal advice … I suppose.”
His lips twitched again before he nodded and started to leave my room, “Make sure you do then.”
I wait a moment before calling out, “Thanks again, Jiro.”
He glances over his shoulder, “Just doing my job.”
And then he’s gone, and I’m yet again alone in this corner of Mortkranken (not the hospital). It doesn’t feel as cold as before though, even though there’s no one waiting in my room — now I’m thankful for it, as I feel like someone else could have picked up on something, but I’m going to ignore that for the time being.
I still don’t want to make this a habit though.
Looking down to my lap, I finish the rest of the juice box, placing the cardboard with a smiling apple in the recycling bin before shrugging on my clothes.
An apple a day may keep the doctor away, but it can’t do anything about my curse and I would find myself back here every week for a check in.
… I can’t believe that he carried me in here after I fainted though, and the thought alone had my face heating up out of embarrassment and something in my gut feeling fluttery.
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Tags; @cheriecafes & @cloudcountry
#dove writes#dove's selfship stuff#tkdb!dove#trying to flesh out the dynamic (said dynamic they are both awkward losers but in very different ways)
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DNI list:
•Basic DNI criteria(LGBTQIAphobes, ableists, saneists, TERFs/SWERFs, truscum/transmeds, racists, radfems, xenophobes, orientalists, body shamers, Trump supporters, pro-life, Nazis, Zionists, pedos, zoos, etc.)
•Conservatives and centrists.
•Anti-furs, anti-alterhumans(therians, otherkin, etc).
•Anti-agere/petre/agedre/petdre.
•Anti-xenogender/neopronouns.
•ED/SH blogs, thinspo blogs, IRL gore blogs, "Dead Dove: Do Not Eat" blogs.
•NSFW blogs(while I am an adult, I still don't consent to these accounts interacting).
°No kink, ABDL/DDLG/dual-com(icky), fetish or harmful paraphile(regardless if you're anti-contact or not) stuff either.
•Proship/darkship/comship/anti-anti or whatever you call yourselves, STAY AWAY FROM ME!/vvvsrs
°That includes those who are neutral to this stuff or those who are pro-fic, btw, don't touch.
•Pro-cringe culture(y'all are really fucking mean).
•Believe in "narc-abuse" or make fun of certain disorders(schizophrenia, PTSD, etc).
•Believe in "blackwashing"(just say you're racist).
•Radqueers(trans-age, trans-race, trans-abled, trans-id, etc).
•Pro-bullying(wtf?)
•Ship IRL people.
•Anti-selfship/anti-yumeship(y'all are jerks).
•Make rape/abuse/pedophile/suicide/beastiality "jokes"(y'all are disgusting and not funny at all).
•Tell someone to "kys"(even as a joke).
•Use "fatherless"/"motherless"/"parentless* as an insult(y'all are horrible).
•True crime community.
•Syscourse blogs(while I'm NOT a system by any means, I'm anti-endo).
•Discourse blogs in general.
•Mspec-monos(the terms "sapphic", "achillean" and "diamoric" exist and plus, you can just say you have a preference), none of that bi/panphobic or homo/lesphobic crap.
•A lesboy(men can't be lesbians) since, as mentioned, lesphobic crap.
•Support shitty people despite knowing damn well what they did.
•Hate on ANY religion.
• Hate on gender non-conforming people/pronoun non-conforming people (ex. he/him lesbians or she/her gays).
•Crypto/NFT and AI bros.
•Pro-police/"cop lives matter".

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❥ TRAIN TO NOWHERE !!...
♥︎ CHAR(LEY) || CHORBLE
♥︎ IT/ITS + ANY
♥︎ MINOR
♥︎ CERTIFIED SELFSHIPPER/YUMEJIN !!
♥︎ 5NORPY'S SPOUSE AND JOYFRIEND
♥︎ 16+ PREFERRED
♥︎ STRAWPAGE
♥︎ PROSHIP + BIGOTS DNI
❥ ...AT LEAST YOU’RE THERE!
more under cut :3c
General Info
ミ★ Welcome to my selfship blog!!! I made this cuz my f/o means a lot to me!!
ミ★ My main is chorbie. I like and follow from there
ミ★ heavily selective sharing. if i interact with you first im most likely okay w sharing with you, but if i haven't and you share my f/o i highly recommend not interacting
ミ★ I hc my f/o as he/it/xe demirose gay transmasc agender who likes any gendered terms. You will most definitely find me calling him my wife/girlfriend often lol
ミ★ i also like the canon ship with my f/o and i hc him as polyamorous dating both his boyfriend and me !!
ミ★ my s/i is named Chorble Sockbox (they/it). feel free to ask about them! I'm somewhat attached to them lmao
ミ★ may occasionally have posts with suggestive implications, i will tag this with #cw suggestive. bear in mind i tend to have a suggestive sense of humor
ミ★ plz be patient with me im mentally ill and disordered :P To be more specific, a few things I have are depression (clinically diagnosed) and heavily suspected BPD and this may affect how I act. If i make you uncomfortable somehow PLEASE inform me !!
ミ★ I also realize that I vent quite often here, and if you're not comfortable seeing my troubles, then please mute my vent tag (see taglist) !! Don't worry, I tend to delete them at some point afterwards
ミ★ aside from all that if youre ok with it plz interact i want more buddies :D
Tags
#💬 • chorbles chatterbox -> general talkin
#💞 • loving and doving -> gushposts/fawning
#🐱 • box socks -> self insert talkin
#🎨 • infatuated illustrations -> art
#🖋️ • lovestruck letters -> proper writing/fics (?)
#💌 • ive got mail!! -> asks
#💭 • fervent thinking -> imagines
#🔧 • the finest art -> art reblogs of my f/o
#❣️ • ships of all time -> rbs of others selfships
#🎲 • i love gaming!! -> ask games
#🎁 • luv 4 me!! -> stuff for me :3
#📺 • a sidesplitting show -> more ventish posts
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Introduction Post :3
Hello~ I’m Ghost/Dove Tart. I’m 23 and go by they/them. I’m a self-taught traditional artist who has many many dreams and aspirations <3
I draw for multiple fandoms, main ones (right now) include: The Amazing Digital Circus, Murder Drones, Lackadaisy, Five Nights at Freddy’s, Little Nightmares, Ratchet & Clank and Star Wars (I mostly draw clones when it comes to that fandom), but there are many other fandoms I draw for occasionally. I also draw OC things once and awhile. I also write! And the same applies to writing as it did for my art! I also post my DIY projects, cosplays and many other things that I do!
(Also expect to see my pet bird, Lizard, from time to time :3)
AU’s
Specimen (FNAF) - Introduction post to that I will also use the tag: #specimen au, for any new posts regarding this AU!
TADC Punk AU
(Will update this list as I make more ;3)
Current OC’s
Fife (TADC OC)
Dove Tart (My fursona :3)
Emma (from Specimen AU)
Evadne May (Self insert Jedi OC)
Isabel Fischer (Self insert Lackadaisy OC)
Dern (Clone Medic OC)
Ghost (Self insert Lombax OC)
Tart (My fursona as a springlock animatronic)
(Will update this list as I make more ;3)
My f/o’s:
-Fives (The Clone Wars) (non-sharing)
-Jinx (League of Legends)
-Jax (The Amazing Digital Circus)
-Springbonnie (Five Nights at Freddy’s)
-Springtrap (Five Nights at Freddy’s)
-Roxanne Wolf (Five Nights at Freddy’s)
-Rocky Rickaby (Lackadaisy) (non-sharing)
- Serafine Savoy (Lackadaisy)
-Ratchet (Ratchet & Clank) (selective sharing)
-Rivet (Ratchet & Clank) (selective sharing)
Doubles of my non-sharing f/o’s, please DO NOT interacting with me!!! And for others, please DO NOT bring up fandom ships with my non-sharing f/o’s or the fact that other people selfship with them!! If any of my non-sharing f/o’s are your platonic or familial f/o, I’m ok with interacting with you. It’s just if they’re also your romantic f/o then dni.
I am cringe but I am free :3
Btw I can’t fully control who follows me but I do consider this more of a 16+ blog so I’d prefer if you were 16+… there isn’t nsfw on here but suggestive stuff and my art (and things I reblog) may include violence/horror etc. Also, swearing will be abundant here, if you care about that stuff.
Also, again can’t fully control who interacts with me, but for dni, just the general stuff… bigots, terfs, fascist/zionist, YOU CAN ALL FUCK OFF!!! Anyways,
Tags
Art - #dovetart #my art
Writing - #dove types #my writings
Talking/Rambling tag - #dove talks
Videos/short films - #dove vids
Reblogs are welcomed, in fact, they are encouraged. But, please do not repost any of my art anywhere without my permission.
You can use/take inspiration from my patch and DIY designs tho <3
Other socials:
Bluesky
Anyways, I hope you enjoy my art and my blog!!! <3
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(🌊) CUTIESGAWR NAVIGATION (🌊)
𝙞𝙛 𝙪𝙣𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙩𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚, 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙩𝙤 swim away 𝙖𝙣𝙮𝙩𝙞𝙢𝙚 ! block gawr if uncomfortable !
(★) ִ— ୨ৎ you can call me : gawr/sharky ! I use hir/they/shark/gawr/princess & pansexual/polysexual ! Anyone can read my works ! I write; angst, smut, fluff ! gawr's selfships; kazuha, ayato, nilou, scara, childe, aether, rosaria, atsushi, sigma, fyodor ! >< I love nilou and kiara
(✿) ִ— ୨ৎ tags; #🦈gawr’s waters! = works | #🦈gawr’s blood! = dark content | #🦈gawr’s teeth! = angst | #🦈gawr’s gummy! = Fluff | #🦈gawr’s mating! = smut | #🦈gawr’s sharkys! = moots! | #🦈gawr’s mate/pretty treasure! = <3 | #🦈gawr’s fins! = asks | #🦈gawr’s swimming! = random | #🦈gawr’s older one! = My irl older sibling | #🦈gawr's leftovers! = Reblogs. 🦈gawr's sweethon! = Irl sweetheart (kinda? All we did was kisses eachother cheeks and just call eachother Petnames but never said that we are dating:3)
{Tags in the bottom so u could find it}
(♡) ִ— ୨ৎ request rules! = Will do: any genders of readers(male,female,gn,nb,trans), any kinks, fluff, angst, gore, horrorp0rn(?), cannibalism, wlw, mlm, platonic, dead dove: do not eat works, incest, non/dubcon! Will not do: Adult x child, Romantic stuff with child characters, scat kink! I write for; genshin, bsd, hsr, tokyorev, blue lock, obey me, twisted wonderland, demon Slayer, chainsaw man, original characters !
GAWR'S SHARKYS [moots] !!
(๑) ִ— ୨ৎ gawr’s herd(anons)! [U can be anything, emoji or name!) || :3 anon, 🎀 anon, 🦈🦈🦈🦈 anon, vamp anon, 💩 anon
(🌀🦈) GAWR’S MASTERLIST !
another one will be added if needed ! 🦈
©2024 CUTIESGAWR | do not copy, plagiarize, or translate my work + dividers/headers are not made by me & some are made by me !
#cutiesgawr#gawr's navi#🦈gawr's waters!#🦈gawr's blood!#🦈gawr's leftovers!#🦈gawr's teeth!#🦈gawr's gummy!#🦈gawr's mating!#🦈gawr's mate!#🦈gawr's sharkys!#🦈gawr's fins!#🦈gawr's swimming!#🦈gawr's older one!#🦈gawr's pretty treasure!
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I am writing borderlands reader inserts again
I've been cursed by a wizard, bound to bring my multichapter selfship fantasies into fruition
The Merger
Pairing: Katagawa Jr./Reader
Chapters: 3/?
Word Count: 3,401 (ongoing)
Summary: Five years ago, you - a small-time hacker with little to lose - woke up with blue tattoos spidering your arms. Your partners-in-crime have convinced you to infiltrate the biggest corporation this side of the six galaxies, in the hopes that stolen blueprints could set you up for life. It goes about as well as you could expect.
Notes: This is a noncon reader insert, dead dove do not eat. Stabbing, gun violence, all that good stuff. I won't be sharing the raw text on tumblr because of AI scraping. I'm archive locking this in a day or so for the same reason, but want to leave it open for a bit longer so people can get a taste for it and sign up for AO3 if you haven't already.
Go Read It
So far I've been pretty on it with updates and plan to keep expanding for the forseeable future <33 I Love Bastards
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✧・゚: * — Pinned Post — * :・゚✧
Welcome to my Rick Self-Ship Blog
> This is a personal, self-indulgent space. Please respect that.
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About Me:
I go by Ashley/Ash
26 | She/They | mentally ill. (As if you didn't know.)
This blog is strictly 18+ — minors DNI
Big fan of self-shipping (obviously)
This space is a tool. I use fiction to process real feelings safely, through a dynamic that is complicated, ugly, comforting, and sometimes disturbing.
This blog is fully proship, dead dove do not eat, and non-discourse. No arguments, no moralizing.
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About the Ship:
Rick Sanchez x Ashley (my S/I.)
This ship is toxic, dark, and dead dove friendly.
I explore unhealthy relationship dynamics, trauma, power imbalance, emotional manipulation, abuse and a whole lot of personal stuff through this ship.
This is not a ship meant to be “aspirational.” It’s for me to work through things.
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Tags you’ll see:
#ashley talks — blog rambling
#rick x ashley — self-ship content
#dead dove — explicit heavy content
#proship selfship — general self-ship content
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Before You Follow:
This blog is NOT for minors, anti-shippers, or anyone looking to play fandom cop.
This blog IS for me. I will explore what I need to explore.
I'll always make sure to try and tag things properly, but if I don't, please let me know.
Thanks for reading!
#op is a proshipper#proship safe#proship selfship#proshippers please interact#dark selfship#selfship intro
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i'm gonna be a little hater on like, 90% of the selfshipping fandom i've personally come across on tumblr for a little bit.
because i've talked about it a lot on my blog, and i'm sure i've made my stance clear on it, but i know my talk posts are far and few in-between and people might not see them anyway even if they aren't so scarce. that's just how algorithms work sometimes, i'm afraid. but like... i never go into it in depth. how pissed off i am at the whole proship drama going on. and it IS drama because it doesn't fucking matter and nobody cares. ever heard of dead dove do not eat? ever had other shit to worry about? ever not given a shit about what ships other people enjoy because 1) cringe culture is dead, and 2) you can talk to people you don't agree with and have fun..? no. no, these people haven't, apparently. now selfshipping is a safe space for people, i don't wanna tell anyone that their safe space is bad and they shouldn't have it. it's just that hey, these people you call proshippers are also in the same sphere as you trying to find both comfort and community like you, and they're not really harming anyone. why insult them and drive THEM away from what's also THEIR space?
i. hate. making media pure. stories do not have to be pure. stories do not have to cater to your sensibilities. stories that DO have to have good morals and role models are children's stories. because they're catering to an audience that will say slurs on you on xbox call of duty in real life and hurt real people otherwise. children, although not as dumb as people think, can't exercise critical thinking and distinguishing of real things vs. fake media in the way that older people and adults can. and that's only GENERALLY. TYPICALLY. but if you're eighteen or above, you'll usually have an easier time! and you do not have to interact with that stuff if you don't want to, i should know, this is tumblr and hey, i don't want to interact with media that makes me feel really horribly bad either. especially not in an unpleasant or vulneranle head space. but these people totally are exposing themselves to content that is inherently "proshit" anyway! this is on god the same people who will say proship (a label where someone enjoys noncon, incest, toxic, and/or otherwise taboo relationships in media) go away, but then SELFSHIP WITH SUPERVILLAINS, VILLAINS WHO ARE INCESTUOUS IN THEIR BASE MEDIA, AND SUPERCOMPUTERS WHO WOULD MAKE YOU RAPE EVERYONE BECAUSE IT HATES YOU AND PROBABLY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT BREATHES.
i get it, transformative media, headcanons, you can water down that character all you want until the point of their role and character disappears if you want to. i don't like it personally, but i respect and admire the drive and am not gonna forbid you from talking to me about it. i am genuine about this. selfshipping is different from being totally in line with canon, something most fandom work generally doesn't have to do at all if they don't want to. that's cool. i just think it's something else to say "if you enjoy bad media you're bad! and i don't want to talk to you! but i can do it though, because i'm doing it the non problematic way" essentially.
and you know what else? this is cringe culture. in the first place, shipping two characters has never been exclusively "i want them to live happily ever after and be so good for each other! 😊" shipping is "wouldn't it be awesome if these two were in love". which can be, and HAS BEEN, taken in a million ways. what if they made each other worse? what if they made each other better? what if the relationship is dogshit but considering who they are this is quite possibly the best outcome and not honestly as bad as it could be? what if the relationship is dogshit and then they fix it? what if the relationship is dogshit but it was so funny? what if the relationship is dogshit but they do really love and are committed to each other, in their own fucked up little ways? these are all stories. that media make. all the time. why can't people enjoy having a selfship that's like that? enjoyment itself encompasses a huge array of emotions, starting from "this is my guilty pleasure thing i do on the side sometimes, i know it's wrong and i microdose and try to make up for it everyday i prommy 👉👈" to "i kinda like this thing. sometimes" to "i'm crazy and everyone will know it forever and i could kill and maim someone about this and i'm righteous for enjoying this and i look down on you if you don't". is all of it so abhorrent to you? makes someone a horrible person to you?
oh, but dude, they're talking about proship SELFSHIPPERS! like people shipping themselves with kids or with characters who are their brothers! — see my rant up there about people whose partners are literally villains and hateful to everyone with no exceptions and that's the core of who they are, because the whole point of the proship label is "people who enjoy taboo relationships in media" like, in general. i have a problem with anyone incessantly hating such a general view of media. and if the definition doesn't encompass bad things generally being portrayed in media? no problem! so. many. anti proship people also have "darkfic darkship neutrals variants dni" on their shit as well! people HATE variations of this term! people HATE variations of taboo things even existing in media! is that not the impression you'd get eventually, after seeing so many people say that at least? ALSO. specify that if that's what you mean! on the website where people are neurodivergent and take things literally a lot (the easiest way to take sentences in my case, because my head's so tired of looking for the hidden meaning sometimes), you don't think to specify which proshippers you meant? ALSO selfshipping is a fucking fantasy, who cares? it's like the scenarios we imagine before bed or some shit, it can be personal and mean a lot to someone. i know that i'd probably recoil a bit by second nature if i like, see some guy shipping themself with caillou, but i wouldn't completely demand they never be in the same space as me, now would i? they have their reasons, and for all intents and purposes, i don't know what they are. they could totally be caillou's age with extremely good writing / drawing / technological smarts and abilities for a four year old and have no parental supervision because their parents don't care, i don't fucking know! the point is that you never know what specific circumstance led to this! that's THEIR business, not mine, and i'm not going to immediately ridicule them or think they're a criminal for doing that. i'm not gonna say "never talk to me ever, we can't possibly have a good conversation together or understand each other" because that's ridiculous if that piece of info is the only thing i know about this person. i'm not going to jump to conclusions based on that. and if this post looks like i'm doing the same thing with anti proshippers to you, then i'll tell you now that there's other stuff coming up ahead that kinda makes it sound like some people really do think being a proshipper is the same as being a criminal. those people are the ones i probably don't agree with most. because fuck man, people are having fun. doing their thing. just like you, by the way. they don't harm real people unless you decide you or someone you know will be harmed by looking at a controversial piece of media. which, likewise, that would be YOUR business, not theirs.
fiction does affect reality to an extent; the reason we're always vying for more representation in media is because if people only ever see skinny white strong cishet men do everything, everyone's gonna eventually think that's what they oughta look and be like, yeah? but that same extent can vary wildly from person to person. it's not fair to assume someone else reacts the same way or internalizes the same things as you do to fictional things. this topic is a whole different can of worms, too, and one that i will not be getting into here in the interest of not derailing to points that are tangential to what i'm talking about.
fucking also, so what if some selfship fantasies involve some weird shit? what if that fantasy is too freaky for you? is it always "match my freak" until someone's actually freaky? what if they want to engage in toxic fucking yaoi in their selfships, do you not want them breathing the same air as you then? every time someone interacts with you, they're not asking you to look at everything they're doing and making. they might even be totally nice and normal by even YOUR standards outside of their shipping proclivities! do you not like that because you think it's someone "pretending to be nice to cover up crimes"? or are you not willing to know that people are multi faceted? i'm not saying people are never cold and calculating and comically evil and shit, but are you sure the guy also engaging in what a lot of people outside the sphere would say is "really cringe shit" anyway is any different or worse than you? selfshipping is cringe and taboo to a group out there somewhere too apparently, i've seen people make the argument that "fictional characters can't consent because they're not real," and selfshipping at large is seen as a weirdo activity, right? especially because the more serious you are about them, the more "sad" it looks like to the outside world because you don't have a real life partner and "have to get obsessed with your fictional one instead". people have been making fun of "sweaty weebs" with waifus for years. to engage in that and then not also understand that something like this — shooing away everybody who doesn't make sure nothing too problematic is in their ships — maybe shouldn't be happening is wild.
there are thousands and thousands of romance tropes — general story tropes — relationship dynamics and tropes — that many many many people can honestly say "i love this in fiction, but i'd hate it if that really happened to me or someone i know," not to mention KINKS that you'd love to fantasize about but never ever do in real life. that's also part of critical thinking and separation of what's real from what's fake, babes. and, unfortunately for YOU maybe, some of those kinks do include incest or huge age gaps or toxic relationships or what have you. that does NOT translate directly into someone's morality profile. maybe they like thinking about morality and testing it or edging the line on it. maybe it's just fucking hot. in FICTION, no less. we're talking about characters, characters that you can make healthy or unhealthy or any shade of gray in-between depending on what story you'd want to tell. for the umpteenth time. video games do not cause violence, proshipping does not cause you to get into toxic shit. it might even deter you because now that you've experienced it through fictional ragdolls, you never have to try it out yourself. oh my god. i'm losing my mind. if i'm missing something crucial about this, because i feel i must be, then please let me know. it feels like most of the selfship community on tumblr is like this and even look down on those who think different, and i know there's probably a good reason, but from where i'm standing (and because of the reasons i'm stating out) that reason doesn't look all that reasonable. and i know, i know — i enjoy overclowning on things and people i don't like as well! i already think so hard about so many things, i'm allowed to not wanna think about at least one topic too hard. human flaw, sue me, i understand that people hyperbole their distaste a lot for the funsies or because they're tired of explaining their nuanced take on it over and over and over again. cool. but god, you know you don't have to put, and i quote, stuff like "PROSHIPPERS AND BIGOTS GO AWAY SHOO" and "if anyone notices a pro/com/dark.shipper reblogging or liking my things people shoot me an ask or message letting me know! I can't always get all of them since I average like 100-300 notes a day! I appreciate it <\3" and "proship/neutral on proship (meaning you ship and enjoy pedo/incest/other weird illegal shit in media)" right? such intense reactions to people minding their business in the goddamn cringe and free selfshipping fandom. first of all, huh, it kinda sounds like you're lumping proshippers and bigots together? "bigot" is such an umbrella term for so many things generally, the fact that it isn't listed out what specifically they're looking to avoid (plus of course the GO AWAY SHOO) makes me think that first dni is overtly simplified, and, in cases of overt simplification, sometimes people who do so in lists like that group everything in that list in around the same ballpark.
"whimsy and fun" and "magic and potions" and the like, right? all this to say i don't think that person was saying "proshippers and bigots" as two different dnis. correct me if i'm wrong.
you don't need me to tell you proshippers and bigots aren't the same thing, but hey. just in case. because i thought i didn't have to say that sometimes media is taboo and that's what the artist/creator/etc. was going for, and that furthermore stories like that can be interesting and good for you to consume every once in a while, but here we are. i'm gonna use the actual definitions for these words. "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group," for bigots, and "one who supports a ship or shipping deemed problematic (e.g., due to incest, age differences, abusive dynamics, etc.), and/or believes in the freedom to create and consume fanworks with such elements" for proshippers. they can be the same. i'm not saying they can't be. but they are not similar nor can they necessarily be clumped together by concept alone. UNLESS you assume proshippers are unreasonably attached to their beliefs because you haven't heard their reasons for it, or you find their reasons unreasonable for some reason? or you make a point to turn this into a mini separatist civil war in yume fandom where proshippers are on one side and antis are on the other. wherein in this reality, proshippers are prejudiced against antis and antis are prejudiced against proshippers. second point. where do you find the time and energy to siphon out every single proshipper in your sphere? it sounds like you're hunting them for sport, calm down. if this is the only space you have on tumblr then sure you'd wanna make it your best space, but you are treating people like pests. last but not least, legality is not morality, either. and just because something is "weird and illegal" doesn't make it wrong to exist in fiction.
I'M finding the time to copy and paste these extra statements unneeded in your regular good old dni (which may not actually work if the people you want out are THAT bad) because i don't want anyone — not even me, when i read this back years later (if this post is still up) — to think that my claims of people equating shipping in fiction with real life morality are unfounded. i want you to see i have examples that i have seen on the regular. these are real blogs, with real people behind them, and i know they're most likely decent people so i don't think they'd harass me because they found out i made this post with their words as examples. i think they'd just block me, shit talk me on their own circles and their own time, and/or also put me up with the proshippers on their dni. if they acknowledge me at all. any of these options happening would be an honor! because believe you me, i want to live and let live. i hated having to go back and gather those examples because it pissed me off and i wanna not get myself in trouble by getting too pissed off. like, i could be playing a card game right now. but my reason for doing this still stands. my reason for writing and posting this (so others know where i stand, so i make myself very clear, so i have some peace of mind having gotten this out now, to analyze this for enrichment and to train my brain, many such reasons) still stands.
so what am i saying? "selfshippers, let anyone you're uncomfortable with into your circle"? i don't fucking care what you do, i'm just fucking pissed off. just some dude speakin his shit, and that's my prerogative, alright? who am i to tell you what to do? who am i to tell you what to think? i ain't your fuckin mom or nothin. i just don't like people suddenly deciding media needs to be morally good now. in any capacity. i don't like this "no proshippers allowed!!" treehouse mentality. and am i saying proshippers have no issues? hell no also, i've seen both sides play to this "war" thing, i've seen people go "anti antis fuck off i hate you!!!!" or whatever, it's also annoying. and for some people out there, maybe being a "proshipper" really does reflect their real life morality. there's always this non zero chance that it turns out most proshippers are criminals and can never hold a pleasant conversation and i'm insane and never saw them or whatever. either way, we have tags for this. we have content warnings for this. to shift the warning over from content to people to whole groups and/or beliefs isn't my thing. which is why when i selfship now, i sit by myself in a corner and make things. it's why i'm leaving the community before i ever got in it. and if there's any thought of "you can just ignore them" or "why get so angry if you can mind your own business", it's because, to reiterate, this is most of the fandom space i've come across. the blogs i'm referencing i have seen around the selfshipping community like a dozen times and seem to be pretty big names, populating so much of the self ship tag whenever i check it. and they're usually very angry and vile talking about those they deem proshippers. i couldn't ignore them if i tried. and i did! i do have the little "proshipper dni" thing (+ the spelling "pr0ship" because, woah... is that the censorship of a whole group of harmless people?) in my post text and tag filter settings. the space is so concentrated with it that it doesn't work effectively, though. AND let's not forget people don't apply these dnis only to the blogs — they slap the thing onto basically every post they make as well. tell me why i keep being recommended posts on my For You thing where people will just say the most benign shit and tag it "proshippers dni!!! 🤢" arbitrarily, like
"imagine your f/o just sitting there PROSHIPPERS GET OUT!!!!!!!!" that's been my experience on yumeblr. every. day. that i decide i wanna see what's going on. what is that. for what reason do you have to randomly exclude people on posts like that? do you think some proshipper will find your post about someone's f/o sitting down and go "oh yeah, and then they would TOTALLY fuck children after" or something? is tumblr being dumb or is this seriously what the fandom is.
because i wanted to reach out, to have a community, to be around people who were also engaging in a chill hobby. and now i'm too annoyed to, because the fandom doesn't like it when you enjoy anything not good and nice in fiction? and i'm barred off from talking to people simply because i don't take to the extreme belief that "if you like imperfect ships, get out". i'm wrong about that, whatever, i'm hyperbole-ing, again, sue me. i'm done. if festering and perpetuating a community where there are only the purest ships was the goal, then good for every anti out there! i'm never coming back. because disgusting humans like me should be kicked out, right? sigh. respond how you want. unfollow if you want. if you feel you might wanna rage at me (understandable, i made this raging at the public air first and wrath is a sickness that spreads, so to say) be aware that
for one, i made this post to get it off my chest first and foremost, if you want to argue with me about it you're barking up the wrong tree because i believe in this very strongly and inherently.
secondly, i suffer from the horribly human flaw that is "big hordes of people opposing me all at once is scary"; if you're planning to do that, wait for me to respond, ask me to clarify whatever point of contention you have with this. don't ask me to never form an opinion again. or kill myself. or whatever harmful thing you can say to people.
thirdly, i have hobbies and interests outside of this post, discourse (i actually... don't really like talking discourse outside of this), thinking about anti proshippers, the selfship community as a whole, and tumblr. clearly, it's why i can step away from the selfship community in the first place. lucky me! instead of arguing about this one thing, i can also talk about things like bears. or being in art block and dying smoke out of my head so sad. or my crippling card game addiction.
last of all, that i use tumblr for fun. i know selfshippers who hate other shippers so much also do too. i'm pissed off for my own personal reasons. you may as well take this post as screaming at the open field. kay? ok. i think i've covered my bases. if i post this to crickets, that'll be alright too, because now it's out there. and i've "old man yells at cloud"ed it.
a lot of why i'm upset anyway is mostly just the fucking putting that dni on random posts thing and the having to divide a fandom into like, fighting factions. i'll still continue interact with posts and prompts that don't have dnis on them in the future, because i'm going to try and have a good time no matter what. if anyone doesn't like me reblogging their stuff because their overall blog is a "proshippers go away" space, then they can block me liberally. beautiful world and all that. i'm gonna straight up microdose a community! yay!
HEY! hey also! you reading this RIGHT NOW! just because i'm being a little bitch about this doesn't mean you can go and send hate to people. there's a reason i didn't mention names and made (maybe obvious) allusions to people and blogs. no matter how obvious these allusions are to you though, nobody take this post as a signal that they should start a war with random guys for real. everybody sit down or go do something that makes you happy. (i surely have to, after having to proofread this so many times to make sure that the "piss on the poor" website knows what points i'm trying to make). i'm just speaking and rambling and stuff like. in fact, positivity can be a fun challenge game in a community like this: go out there and find a selfship blog that isn't annoying about this proship business and send them some love (ideally unrelated to this post; i don't wanna get on my own high horse like antis do or confuse anyone osjdis. get in some general "hey, cool ship!"s in there or something). that is my mission for you should you choose to accept it. maybe... recommend me some "proship safe" (what a weird way to say it) selfship imagines blogs... for fun and love and happiness.
thank you for reading to the end. thank you for caring this much about my opinions, i seriously appreciate it. big thumbs up from me to you!

#ıllı free talk.#i need a tag for my “holy shit thats a whole essay” posts#cw for. i mean this is the proship topic. cw for the complete package#i COULD have chosen to stay silent. but thats such a non choice This is much more stimulating
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kittycastle ! osdd system. 23 ; she / it / dem / he
married polyam lesboy
artist gamer cat lover. yumeshipping ; fo's ; fujo and hime; extended about and tags below
mainly posts / rbs nikkiverse, toontown, animanga fanart, fashion subcultures and aesthetics, and other random stuff i like (below)
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diemos , tabby 𓂃
autist artist 𝜗 gyaru / decora .! thrifter and upcycler!! tags
i tag headoomfs by name
# myart # thrifting, # upcycle, # sew, #mydesigns
i do NOT sell my upcycles. they will be upcycled for my use. and if i do they will be for CHEAP! i hate thrift resellers!!!
i love idols and kaigai, and vtubers!! expect this
i selfship and will use an fo tag. i dont post oc or personal selfship atm
i block easy. disabled and tired, the internet is my playground!!! im generally "dead dove do not eat" idc what u like but if i cant match ur freak i might block not personal ily 💥 similarly i might reblog gooner art. im sorry. fictional women.
i have a few passing interests; heres the rundown
overall video games / the gaming industry i think hard about games. idol industry, worldwide. vtubers and kaigai!! fashion subcultures, accessory diy and small sewing for now. i draw a lot!! in general
specific: House MD, Red dead redemption, Sonic series, Toontown, Path of exile, Sanrio, Hyperdimension Neptune / "Moe", Early internet and 2000's anime, Tenshi Kaiwai, Gyaru (in general), Decora (in general), many different games. Hoyoverse unfortunately, horses, cats, other misc animals
i love talking to ppl about whatever, i try my best to answer even if it takes me awhile!!
pls address me as a uniform collective or "one person", u dont need to use specific names, diemos and tabby are my collective name
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