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alleyskywalker · 1 year
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NEW ASOIAF Fics
A Son for Riverrun - 1,750 - PG - Asha-centric; Asha/Edmure Riverwife 'verse. Asha gives birth to Edmure's heir. She's got some complicated feelings about it.
Love Again - 1,309 - PG - Sansa/Jeyne W After the war, Jeyne came to Winterfell in a search of peace and a family that can understand her. By the start of summer, she and Sansa realize they've found more than that with each other.
The Sweetest Marriage - 1,861 - PG - Tris/Sansa Sansa spends a peaceful evening at home.
Three Letters - 1,410 - PG - Tris/Theon, Tris/Asha, Tris/Baelor Tris writes three letters, at three different times in his life, to three very different love interests.
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ironbornsource · 1 year
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Riverwife by Alley_Skywalker / @alleyskywalker Rated: G Words: 1925 Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Category: Gen, F/M Characters: Asha Greyjoy, Edmure Tully, Theon Greyjoy Summary: After the Greyjoy rebellion was defeated by the Iron Throne, both of Balon's living children were taken as hostages, but while Theon would spend the entirety of his time at Winterfell, it was deemed proper for Asha to be married off to a loyal greenlander lord once she came of age. Four years into her marriage to Edmure Tully, heir to Riverrun, Asha prepares for even more changes in her life.
A very grey, melancholy take on what might have been a very possible outcome of the Greyjoy rebellion. The outcome of the arranged marriage, with the extremely imperfect and petty coming together on both sides is just so realistic and so is Asha's pov on it, appreciative of the measure of kindness and happiness she found but never fully past the prisoner mindset. The look at what Theon and Asha's relationship in these circumstances would be like is so deep even thought it's mostly onscreen, suggesting so subtly what kind of codependency was formed between them before they were separated and the childishly unrealistic mutual expectations they have of each other's ability to resist.
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Anyone who thinks that Rhaenyra calling Helaena "my sweet sister" means anything positive about their relationship or about Rhaenyra's feelings for Heleana needs to go back and re-read the main series (or read it period, because trust me you will understand F&B a lot better with ASOIAF as context).
In ASOIAF "sweet sister" is that phrase is used disparagingly the vast majority of the time. A quick search reveals it is used 82 times, and the character who uses this phrase by far the most is Tyrion when speaking about Cersei (an example from ASOS Tyrion I):
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There are also multiple examples of Jaime using it about Cersei too, especially when he's unhappy with her (a random example from AFFC Jaime V):
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Other people also use it referring to Cersei, again sarcastically. "Your sweet sister did X." Which makes sense! Cersei is pretty notorious and people gripe about her to her brothers pretty often.
Beyond various people talking about Cersei, the top offender is Viserys, who uses it quite a bit when addressing Dany, usually with a bite of malice (AGOT Daenerys I):
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Interestingly, Viserys later calls out to his "sweet sister" when he is begging for his life. I can't imagine that reminding her of all the times he threatened her with those same words helped his case very much.
There's one instance of Arya using it about Sansa when she is giving an insincere apology (AGOT Sansa III):
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Here is Theon using it about Asha (ACOK Theon V):
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Lysa also uses it about Cat, and her feelings about her "sweet sister" at this point are pretty negative (ASOS Sansa VII):
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You get the picture. At the very best, it's used with a fond sort of sarcasm, at worst it's actively spiteful. You can count on one hand the number of times it is used sincerely in the whole entire series, and really there's only one instance, from Edmure to Cat, that I would read as 100% sincere without even a tiny hint of sarcasm. F&B doesn't have anyone's POV to indicate the tone with which Rhaenyra said those words, and although it's possible this might have been the second time in the whole of ASOIAF that we were meant to treat those words as unquestioningly sincere and loving, I think this is a bit like the discourse around "sharply questioned." Those words, in-world, tend to carry a connotation beyond their surface meaning. It would not be something reassuring to hear terms for surrender given using the phrase "sweet sister," and in fact, given that we have no other indication that Rhaenyra has any sort of relationship with her siblings whatsoever, Helaena would be entirely justified in interpreting her words as spiteful or sarcastic. After all, if you're using a quote from the book to speak to Rhaenyra's intentions, the character you're referring to is book!Rhaenyra, who is not shown to be an overly nice person. Even by the most charitable reading, we can safely assume that those words were included by Gyldayn in his history knowing that in-world readers would read them as insincere. They are not intended to portray Rhaenyra and Helaena's relationship in a positive light.
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fvckiminthecloset · 5 months
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DAY ONE: Which is the worse of all these non-canon ships in ASOIAF?
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hollowwhisperings · 3 years
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ASOIAF character ages going into Winds of Winter (300AC).
KEY
• [X AC] = X years after Aegon I Targaryen's Crowning in Oldtown.
• [~X] = almost/roughly X years old.
• [X-Y] = age range of X to Y years old.
• [X~Y] = minimum age to maximum, given contextual evidence.
• [x*] = if x character is not dead
~ All ages are derived from birthdates on the ASOIAF wiki, as given in canon or as calculated by fans ~
OLD AS HECK
• Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers (125)
• Lord Walder Frey (92)
• Lady-Dowager Olenna "Queen of Thorns" Redwyne (82)
ADULTS
• Ser Barristan Selmy (64-73)
• Ser Brynden "The Blackfish" Tully (~57)
• Lord Wyman Manderly (48-61 y/o)
• Lady Maege Mormont (41-61 y/o)
• Ser Jorah Mormont (~46)
• Prince Doran Martell & Captain Areo Hotar (~43)
• Ser Davos Seaworth (40-45)
• Ser Jon Connington & Lord Roose Bolton (~40)
• Lord Mace Tyrell (37~44)
• King Stannis I Baratheon (36)
• Lady Alerie Hightower (36~43)
• Lord Howland Reed (35-40)
• Ser Jaime Lannister & Queen Cersei I (34)
• First Ranger Benjen Stark & Aurane Waters (~33)
• King Euron "Crow's Eye" Greyjoy (32~43 y/o)
• Lord Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish (32)
• Victarion Greyjoy (31~43)
• Ser Sandor Clegane* (~30)
• Obara Sand (~29)
• Ser Harrold Hardyng (~29)
• Tyrion Lannister (27)
• Ser Gerold "Darkstar" Dayne (26-30)
• Lord Edmure Tully (26~33)
• Nymeria "Lady Nym" Sand & Lady Taena Merryweather (~26)
• Asha Greyjoy (~25)
• Ser Willas Tyrell (24~31)
YOUNG ADULTS
• Princess Arianne Martell (24)
• Tyene Sand & Ser Garlan Tyrell (23)
• Theon Greyjoy* (22)
• Mya Stone & Myranda Royce (~21)
• ~20 y/o: Brienne of Tarth, Wynafryd Manderly & Sarella "The Sphinx" Sand.
• Steward Satin of The Night's Watch (18-20)
HODOR
• Walder of Winterfell, 15~25.
TEENAGERS
• ~18 y/o: Aegon VI "Young Griff" Targaryen, Ramsay Snow, Lady Roslin Frey, Ser Loras Tyrell*, Lancel Lannister.
• Penny (17-19)
• ~17 y/o: Queen Margaery I, Queen Jeyne I*, Meera Reed, Lord Commander Jon Snow*, Novice Samwell "The Slayer" Tarly, Queen Daenerys I Targaryen, Irri.
• ~16 y/o: Jhiqui, Gendry Waters, Lady Alys Karstark.
• Wylla Manderly (14-16)
• Martyn Lannister (13-15)
CHILDREN
• ~14 y/o: Sansa "Alayne" Stark, Jeyne Poole*, Jojen Reed, Podrick Payne, Elia Sand.
• 13 y/o: Trystane Martell, Lord Ned Dayne*, Edric Storm, Devan Seaworth.
• ~12: Missandei of Naath & Obella Sand.
• 11 y/o: Arya "No-One" Stark, Beth Cassel*, Princess Shireen Baratheon.
• 10 y/o: Bran Stark, Lyanna Mormont, Elmar Frey, Princess Myrcella*.
• ~8 y/o: Lord Robert "Sweetrobin" Arryn, King Tommen I, Dorea Sand.
• 7 y/o: Loreza Sand.
TODDLERS&BABIES
• Rickon Stark* (5)
• ~2: Ghost, Nymeria, Summer & Shaggydog* (born in 298AC, AGOT).
• "Monster", Drogon, Viserion & Rhaegal (born 299AC).
• Prince Aemon Steelsong, son of Dalla (born 300AC).
UNKNOWN: Ellaria Sand, Lord Yohn Royce, Lord Orton Merryweather, Dolorous Edd, Queen Selyse Florent, Ser Ilyn Payne, Daario Naharis, Hizdahr zo Loraq, King Mance Rayder, Magnar Sigorn of Thenn, Tormund Giantsbane, Osha, Val.
*IF NOT DEAD
• Ashara Dayne, dead at 14~23 y/o in 283AC.
• Ashara Dayne, (~36): for rumours of Ned/Ashara to be at all plausible to me, Ashara must have been 16 years old at MINIMUM during the Tourney of Harrenhall (well within her approximated birthdates of 260-269AC).
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ladyofthearbor · 3 years
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𝐦𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭. 𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭.(tba)
𝐫𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐬 ↴
𝐫𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐬 : open
please send requests through asks, and feel free to be specific, it helps me a lot
unless the story is an oc x character my default is a fem!reader, if you want gender neutral please specify!!
i am a minor so i don’t feel comfortable writing smut and please don’t request it
so sorry if i disappear for a while sometimes, school’s a bitch
𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐢 𝐰𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 ↴
GOLDEN TRIO ERA
⤷ harry potter
⤷ hermione granger
⤷ ronald weasley
⤷ fred weasley
⤷ george weasley
⤷ percy weasley
⤷ draco malfoy
⤷ pansy parkinson
⤷ lavender brown
⤷ parvati patil
⤷ padma patil
⤷ luna lovegood
⤷ cedric diggory
⤷ charlotte chang
⤷ dudley dursley
HPHM ERA
⤷ penny haywood
⤷ charlie weasley
⤷ bill weasley
⤷ jae kim
⤷ ben copper
⤷ ismelda murk
⤷ talbott winger
⤷ badeea ali
ASOIAF/GAME OF THRONES
⤷ eddard stark
⤷ brandon stark
⤷ robb stark
⤷ sansa stark
⤷ jon snow
⤷ theon greyjoy
⤷ asha greyjoy
⤷ euron “croweye” greyjoy
⤷ tywin lannister
⤷ tyrion lannister
⤷ bronn
⤷ jaime lannister
⤷ brienne of tarth(familial/platonic only)
⤷ petyr baelish
⤷ lothor brune
⤷ stannis baratheon
⤷ davos seaworth
⤷ margaery tyrell
⤷ elinor tyrell(platonic only bc i ship her and alyn too much)
⤷ alla tyrell
⤷ megga tyrell
⤷ willas tyrell
⤷ edmure tully
⤷ catelyn tully-stark
⤷ ramsay snow
⤷ roose bolton
⤷ wylla manderly
⤷ wynafryd manderly
⤷ any oc you like from one of my fics
STAR WARS
⤷ padme amidala
⤷ obi wan kenobi
⤷ sebulba /j
⤷ poe dameron
⤷ finn
⤷ armitage hux
⤷ captain phasma(platonic only)
⤷ rose tico
⤷ kaydel ko connix
ETERNALS
⤷ ikaris
⤷ sersi
⤷ ajak
⤷ druig
⤷ makkari
⤷ dane whitman
⤷ kingo
WHAT IF…?
⤷ peggy carter(1, 9)
⤷ stephen strange(4)
⤷ strange supreme(4, 8, 9)
⤷ sharon carter(5)
⤷ t’challa(2, 9)
⤷ nebula(2)
⤷ nebula(7)
⤷ natasha romanoff(captain carter universe, 9)
⤷ bruce banner(captain carter universe)
⤷ natasha romanoff(3)
⤷ natasha romanoff(8, 9)
⤷ gamora(9)
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lookhoworiginal · 5 years
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Future Rulers of Westeros
Prince Rickard Stark of Winterfell, son of Good Queen Sansa Stark.
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Lord Hoster Tully of Riverrun, son of Lord Edmure Tully and Roslin Tully.
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Ser Selyne Baratheon of Storm's End, daughter of Lord Gendry Baratheon. (X)
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Lord Luthor Tyrell of High Garden, son of Lord Willas Tyrell.
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Lord Brynden Arryn of Vale, son of Lord Robert Arryn.
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Princess Meria Martell of Sunspear, daughter of Princess Arianne Martell. (X)
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Lord Theon Greyjoy of Pyke, son of Lady Asha Greyjoy. (X)
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Lord Gerion Lannister of Castely Rock, son of Lord Tyrion Lannister, the Hand of the King. (X)
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(Tyrion once wished a son as good looking as Jamie but with his mind and I'm here for it)
Robb Whitewolf of Beyond the Wall, son of Jon Snow and Val the Wildling. Leader of the Free Folk.
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Firstborn children of each region of Westeros.
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starksinthenorth · 5 years
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The Winds of Winter Outline
No one asked for this but I don’t have the time to write my full predictions for The Winds of Winter as a fanfic so here is a potential outline. Some plots that I care or know less about probably have more detail plots (ex: Asha and Theon at Winterfell). There are also some chapters I can imagine being separate that could easily be combined (ex: Sansa and the Tourney of the Winged Knights, Sam’s training). 
This is probably 10-15 chapters too long. It might be a little out of order, but this is generally how I imagine things might go.
POV deaths: Barristan, Jon Connington, Aeron, Areo, Victarion
Prologue: Ser Forley Preston, the attack by Lady Stoneheart on Jeyne Westerling and Edmure’s journey to the Westerlands
Barristan I: Meereen, preparing for battle (already released)
Theon I: Stannis’s Northern Camp, sees meetings and advises Stannis, is marked for death (already released)
Dany I: Great Grass Sea, on road with the Dothraki
Sansa I/Alayne I: preparing for Tourney of the Winged Knights (already released)
Jaime I: Riverlands, journey to the Red Wedding 2.0 with Brienne
Arya I/Mercy: learning to join the play scene and killing Raff the Sweetling (already released)
Aeron I: Waters off the Reach, prepping for Euron’s attack (already released)
Theon II: Stannis’s Northern Camp, brought to be executed beneath a weirwood, hears Bran talking about tunnels underneath Winterfell and uses the information to bargain for his freedom
Arianne I: Dorne/Stormlands, heading to meet Aegon (already published)
Asha I: Stannis’s Northern Camp, attack by Ramsey’s people and Stannis winning
Victarion I: Meereen, preparing for battle (already published)
Tyrion I: Meereen, pre-battle, sees the Iron Fleet on the horizon (already published)
Dany II: Vaes Dothrak, joining Dosh Khaleen and being hailed as the Stallion Who Mounts The World
Barristan II: Meereen, the battle (already released)
Tyrion II: Meereen, pre-battle/battle (already published)
Victarion II: Meereen, during the battle
Tyrion III: Meereen, potentially heat of the battle
Victarion III: Meereen, blowing dragon horn and sending at least one of them (probably Rhaegal) towards Westeros, dies
Barristan III: Meereen, more of the battle and winning it until Rhaegal flies away and he retreats into the city (mildly doubtful of this chapter, tbd)
Davos I: Skaagos, arriving, gaining their trust
Brienne I: Riverlands, journey to the Red Wedding 2.0 with Jaime and some of the Brotherhood without Banners
Cersei I: King’s Landing, Kevan is dead, pretrial stress/anxiety, Trial (she wins)
Dany III: Somewhere in Essos, Journeying to Meereen
Theon III: Winterfell, Battle of Ice and leading the people into the tunnels
Asha II: Winterfell, Battle of Ice aftermath, bonding with Mormont ladies, potential arrival of the sellswords from Braavos
Jon I: the Wall/Gift, in Ghost’s brain
Tyrion IV: Meereen, post-battle capture or getting involved with Barristan in the rule of the city
Barristan IV: Meereen, finds Shavepate taking over the city, killing Hizdahr and Dany’s cupbearers, dies
Areo I: Dorne, chasing Darkstar
Arya II: The Little Lost Girl - hears about “Arya Stark in Braavos,” (Jeyne Poole) and “dead Jon Snow” leaves the Faceless Men (this may be two chapters, three max).
Sansa II/Alayne II: the Vale, Gates of the Moon, the Tourney of the Winged Knights
Dany IV: Meereen, definitive ending to the Siege of Meereen, mourning Barristan, getting Ironborn support, leaving the city
Sansa III/Alayne III: the Vale, Gates of the Moon, post-or-during-Tourney, ends with Sweetrobin’s death
Arya III: journey from Braavos and arrival in the Saltpans
Melisandre I: the Wall, post-Jon death’s chaos and noticing him in Ghost, “Arya Stark” arrives at the wall then heads to Eastwatch-by-the-Sea to go to Braavos
Bran I: Beyond-the-Wall, some kind of training and visions of Jon and the Others
Tyrion V: Meereen or the dragonroads, Meeting Dany, potentially narrator for some of her events and battles
Sansa IV/Alayne IV: the Vale, chaos post-Robert’s death, she’s kidnapped
Arya IV: Riverlands, Inn at the Crossroads, unites with Gendry
Arianne II: Stormlands, heading to meet Aegon
Sansa V/Alayne V: rescued by maybe Harry, reveal of who she is
Jaime II: Riverlands, Red Wedding 2.0 and forced to fight Brienne
Brienne II: Riverlands, Red Wedding 2.0 aftermath after running away from the Brotherhood
Tyrion VI: Dragon Roads, general advising Dany and gaining her trust, potentially an attempt on his life for Cersei that spreads news he’s dead (so Sansa can get married without that sticky plot point)
Sansa VI: Wedding, potentially poison reveal and blame on Littlefinger
Cersei II: King’s Landing, Tyene Sand is up to some mischief as her Septa companion, dealing with Mace Tyrell naming himself Hand of the King, potentially Myrcella arriving back in King’s Landing, Mace goes to Storm’s End to deal with Aegon
Arianne III: Stormlands, meet Aegon + siege of Storm’s End
Jon Connington I: Stormlands/Crownlands, wary of Arianne and the Dornish
Arianne IV: Stormlands, plans / agreement to marry Aegon after siege is ended
Arya V: Riverlands, Somewhere, Gets Nymeria’s Wolfpack (maybe near Harrenhal? I feel like one of the Starklings end up back there at some point)
Cersei III: King’s Landing, scheming, trying to get back in charge, Nymeria chaos on the small council
Asha III: Witnessing Winterfell, politics of the North, Theon gets to live for identifying a living non-Arya Stark child
Davos II: Skaagos, finding Rickon, convincing Osha to take him to Winterfell and his people as the last remaining Stark
Sansa VII: gets some kind of news (maybe Stannis claiming the North and looking for Lord of Winterfell), head to Gulltown to launch North
Arianne V: Stormlands/Crownlands, wedding or maybe POV for the Second Sack of King’s Landing (little later if its that second option)
Areo II: Dorne, chasing Darkstar, something at the Tower of Joy(?)
Melisandre II: the Wall, raising Jon from the dead
Dany V: Volantis, conquest of the city and freeing of the city, being hailed and crowned as Azor Ahai
Arya VI: Riverlands, Around Riverrun, Meets (and Kills) Lady Stoneheart
Cersei IV: King’s Landing, siege by Aegon and co.
Jon Connington II: King’s Landing, sack of King’s Landing, probably orders a mass slaughter when the bells are rung in celebration of Aegon’s coming even though they claimed the city peacefully
Cersei V: King’s Landing, siege part ii, Tommen’s death and fleeing King’s Landing
Bran II: Beyond-the-Wall, “Hold the Door” attack by the others
Davos III: Skaagos/Sea off Skaagos, journeying to White Harbor, see things (wights) moving in the water
Sam I: Oldtown, learning things and preparing for the soon attack, sending Gilly and Little Sam to Horn Hill, realizing important info about Wall, Jon, or Dragons
Dany VI: Roads of Essos, gets notice about Aegon in Westeros, turns towards Pentos
Sansa VIII: Maybe lands in White Harbor
Arya VII: Riverlands, Around Riverrun, somehow the 10/12 yo takes control of the Brotherhood without Banners and convinces them to follow her to end the remaining Freys at the Twins and free the Northerners there; potentially uses the reclamation of Riverrun to rally the Riverlords and ladies to her side (using friendship with Lady of Acorn Hall)
Bran III: Beyond-the-Wall, retreat south, visions
Cersei VI: Riverlands, running from chaos in the city
Jon Connington III: King’s Landing, feeling guilty when there are reports of greyscale in the city
Dany VII: Pentos, destruction of
Arianne VI: King’s Landing, crowned, marries Aegon if not yet, catches him with Elia Sand, maybe breakout of greyscale in his people
Jon II: the Wall, arisen from death, punishing those who did him wrong, someone tells him that “Arya Stark was at the wall,” he goes to follow her to Braavos 
Sam II: Oldtown, learning things and preparing for the soon attack, seeing Ironborn on the horizon
Aeron II: Oldtown, siege and bearing witness to Euron’s attack
Sam III: Oldtown, the Ironborn attack, seeing Euron’s Monsters of the Deep (Eldritch Apocalypse), escaping
Dany VIII: Pentos, giving it to the Tattered Prince and burning Illyrio Mopatis alive for betraying her, ends with her symbolically turning west
Areo III: Dorne, encountering Darkstar and dying
Sam IV: Horn Hill, after fleeing Oldtown, also his father may be there, sent by Cersei, sends out the ravens to warn Westeros of the threat of the Eldritch Monsters, heading North to help at the wall
Arya VIII: Riverlands, Around the Twins, claims the Twins, gets news of Stannis claiming Winterfell and trying to name a Lord of Winterfell, heads North with support of the Riverlands to claim her birthright as Lady of Winterfell since she thinks she’s the last Stark
Cersei VII: Casterly Rock, establish a court in exile and crowning Queen Myrcella
Davos IV: White Harbor, giving Manderly his King
Jon Connington IV: King’s Landing, dragon attack and death in wildfire
Jon III: Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, abandons his watch, someone tells him “Arya” had really pretty brown eyes, he realizes its not his little sister and determines to head “somewhere warm” or else somewhere South (potentially Winterfell - I go back and forth on if he’ll end up at the Tower of Joy or Dragonstone himself)
Sansa VIX: go to Stannis/fly banner over Winterfell, potential arrival/tension with Rickon and Davos and death of Littlefinger if he’s not dead yet
Brienne III: Riverlands, gets news Sansa is heading North / married in the Vale and that Tommen is dead; parts with Jaime - him for Cersei and Myrcella and her for Sansa
Dany IX: Dragonstone, her homecoming and arrival and crowning
Aeron III: Oldtown, going to the top of the Hightower and watching Euron blow his horn, dying
Melisandre III: the Wall, invasion of the Night and Others
Bran IV: the Wall, it falls
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vicleesi · 5 years
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About GoT Episode 4:
First of all, I’m completely exhausted from turning a blind eye to the multiple flaws in the D & D scripts (and it was they who wrote this episode). The strength of Game of Thrones came right from the details thanks to the incredible world that George R. R. Martin created and D & D destroyed. So no, I will not spare you them.
- The beginning was good. I just do not understand why Jon made his speech without looking at the survivors of Winterfell.
- The party dinner was generally good. In these last seasons, Game of Thrones has managed to maintain a good quality in the interaction between characthers. Episode 2 was basically all that and it was good for me. The problem is when GoT starts off for the story  - which is already lost.
- Daenerys’s loneliness was well portrayed. Too bad the series prematurely killed Selmy Barristan, did not it?
- First failure of attention to detail that detracts from the series’ worldbuilding: Gendry Rivers, what? Is he from the Riverlands, by any chance? Bastard born and raised in King’s Landing is named after Waters. His name was Gendry Waters (actually it was just Gendry, since Robert never recognized him as his bastard son). Why change that, D & D? To be different?
- I wish Gendry good luck trying to persuade the Storm lords to bend over to a bastard who does not understand a thing about ruling a castle. But of course the series will not talk about that. At least they did not give Storm’s to Brienne or to Davos (by the way, when the Davos family will show up?)
- Leaving a bit out of order, but taking advantage of feudal politics, what’s going on in Dorne?” D & D mentioned a new Prince of Dorne who swore loyalty to Daenerys. Hi? What? When? Who? WHY??? D & D had the brilliant idea of ​​making the Martells exterminate each other and still reap the rewards of their genius. Dorne remains the worst arc in the series and quite possibly one of the worst book-media visual adaptations ever.
- They also mentioned Riverrun again. What happened to the Riverlands after the Freys all died? Where is Edmure Tully? Who controls Riverrun?
- Writers creating a whole scene by saying that Brienne is a virgin. Not necessary.
- There was not a crippled nephew of Daeron Targaryen. D & D creating Targaryens whenever they want, although there is a well-defined story in the books. (FIRE AND BLOOD)
- There was finally a scene between Sandor and Sansa. It only took 4 episodes to happen. Once again they put Sansa as the product of her suffering, justifying the idiot choices D & D made for her character. Nothing new, otherwise it was a totally forgettable dialogue (I already forgot).
- The Bronn Paradox: If Bronn is not serving Daenerys while the war is rolling, who guarantees that he will receive his castle in the end? Especially considering he was utterly disillusioned with the promises of the Lannisters to the point of being ready to kill his two best friends? In fact, did D & D forget that Jaime himself had offered Highgarden to the Bronn last season?
- Again, as for Gendry, I wish Bronn good luck in trying to establish his feudal dominion over the proud lords of Highgarden who did not even tolerate the right Tyrells, and the Tyrells were an old family and had already been entrenched in there for centuries. Of course, D & D do not care.
- The Paradox of the Wildlings: Why were they known as wildlings? Because they tried to conquer the Wall from time to time and were always looting the North in search of resources and riches. Because their land was a shit, where nothing grew and it was always winter, basically. Now the they finally made it through the Wall and gain access to the best lands, even more with the support of the Winterfell and Starks. What do they do? That’s right: they go back to their shit place because D & D have that same shit on their heads.
- What else is north of Winterfell and south of the Wall are lands with no one, thanks to the King of the Night.“ But the wildlings choose to go back to Castle Black and, by all means, beyond the Wall. Seven Hells.
- I will not even comment on Jon’s scene sending Ghost away.” If it was for him to appear that way, it was better for the wolf to have been m.i.a as before.
- Sam Tarly is a Night’s Watch man. Men of Night’s Watch should not have children. When will anyone say that? Did not Jon even mention it? What happened to Night’s Watch? Why is Sam still dressed in black? If he’s out, why did not he become Lord Tarly?
- The arc of Night’s Watch is going to be without conclusion anyway? Are they gone?
- The army of the living has lost only half its men? It was not what it looked like in episode 3. But okay, D & D create and describe armies whenever they think it’s valid - just like Night’s Watch, apparently.
- As they are doing this season, D & D cut important dialogue scenes because they do not know what to write. In the first episode they cut off Daenerys before she finished threatening Sansa. In the second episode they cut their scene together before Dany could answer the question “What about the North?”. At the end of it cut the scene Jon x Dany in the crypts. Now they cut the scene of Sansa and Arya discovering that Jon is not their brother. Why, man? What is the reason? I’m shocked that D & D did not cut Jon’s reaction to finding out that he’s a bastard of Rhaegar and Lyanna (yes, he’s a bastard, D & D, no matter how many fanfics they write).
- Arya in the first moment: we are a family! Arya in 2nd moment: left King’s Landing, goodbye Winterfell, until never again! and yes she left for good, she said she ain’t coming back!
That was the good part of the episode. Let’s go to the bad part!!
- So you want to tell me that Euron can hit three harpoons in a dragon in mid-flight?“
- So you want to tell me that Daenerys from the sky was unable to see the Greyjoy fleet hidden behind an islet?”
- So you want to tell me that Daenerys never considered the possibility that it was a bad idea to sail to Dragonstone as they knew Euron controlled the seas there?“
- So you want to tell me that Rhaegal was not killed by the zombie dragon brother in the apocalyptic Battle of the long night fighting for the fate of the men’s kingdom only to die in the next episode in a few seconds for Euron Greyjoy’s magical harpoons?
-So you want to tell me how easy it is to kill dragons like that?” It amazes me that Aegon conquered Westeros three hundred years ago.
- Daenerys should have flown directly to King’s Landing and fired at everything after the Rhaegal’s death. Fire and Blood!!
- Jaime returning to Cersei: hi? What the fuck? If it is to join her and not kill her right away, Jaime will be the greatest example of character assassination that D & D has committed since Stannis Baratheon.
- How did Team Dany know that Missandei had been captured? Euron made propaganda, sent in the email?
- Is Varys loyal to Jon Snow? REALLY? What does Varys know about Jon Snow? When did he meet Jon Snow? When did they share at least one scene together? They never talked. Varys never saw him rule. Where do the writers get these crazy ideas?
- Nonsense to be creating intrigue over the marriage between Jon and Daenerys. She will need to get married to have children and continue the dynasty. Who is she getting married to, Hot Pie?
- By the way, there have been marriages between uncles and nieces among the Starks. Brothers Jonnel and Edric Stark married their nieces Serena and Sansa Stark some 150 years ago to try to end a crisis of succession, since their father, Rickon, heir to Winterfell, had been killed in the conquest of Dorne. It would not surprise me if GRRM specifically placed these marriages in history just for this situation that was raised in the conversation between Tyrion and Varys. In fact, marriages between uncles and nieces were not exactly uncommon in our own history. In Brasil, Dom Pedro I was grandson of D. Maria I of Portugal, who was married to his uncle, D. Pedro III, precisely to avoid a dynastic crisis.
- Again the bullshit that Robert’s Rebellion was built on a lie. I imagine the Crazy King burning the Lord of Winterfell and his heir and begging for Ned and Robert’s head did not influence that at all.
- Dany is an emotional woman who’s going crazy. So we need a rational man to help her.
- Dany is an emotional woman who’s going crazy. So we need a rational man to help her!!
- Oh, excuse me if I repeated myself, but this nonsense does not go down. They disrespected Daenerys, disrespected her journey, disrespected even the “girl power” they tried to do last season (Dany, Olenna Tyrell, Cersei and the Martells). The mysoginism of these so-called D & D appearing once more to claim another innocent victim.
- Why did Cersei not kill Tyrion?
- Why did Cersei not kill Daenerys?
- Euron does not suspect anything after Tyrion reveals he knew Cersei was pregnant?“ Since Euron himelf knew only minutes ago?
- D & D really put an end to the apocalypse so we can have Cersei grinning in the last three episodes? Is this serious?
- Euron is Cersei’s puppy. Euron in the series is another completely character , they should have changed his name in the adaptation as they did with the Asha (Yara).
- No turning back with the Night King. D & D make us muggles.
- Finally: where’s the winter ??? It seems King’s Landing is in the tropics.
- Cancel this and the next two episodes. Let GoT finish in episode 3, at least so we would have something minimally satisfying. D & D continue to insult the viewer’s intelligence.
"At least the show’s songs never fails to please.”
*this analysis is not mine I translated from a brazilian friend
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NEW FIC: Riverwife (Asha-centric)
Title: Riverwife Fandom: A Song of Ice and Fire Characters/Pairings: Asha-centric; (pre-ship) Asha/Edmure, Asha & Theon Rating: PG Word Count: 1,925 Summary: AU. After the Greyjoy rebellion was defeated by the Iron Throne, both of Balon's living children were taken as hostages, but while Theon would spend the entirety of his time at Winterfell, it was deemed proper for Asha to be married off to a loyal greenlander lord once she came of age. Four years into her marriage to Edmure Tully, heir to Riverrun, Asha prepares for even more changes in her life.
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If I'm not too late to the party, Asha, Cat and Edmure!
❇ Asha Greyjoy ➳Sexuality Headcanon: straight, contrary to Theon she likes to tease younger men ➳Gender Headcanon: cis female ➳A ship I have with said character: Qarl the Maid, a reconciliation with Theon, eventually Patrek Mallister (Theon would be delighted and hey, Mallister-Greyjoy-reconciliation ;D)
➳A BROTP I have with said character: Rodrik Harlaw, Alyssane Mormont, theon Greyjoy (god damn it, kids, get yourself together) ➳ A NOTP I have with said character: ugh, anyone with whom she was in the show. On a conceptual level I like the idea of her and Elia Sand but D&D can’t write women, especially no good lesbian relationship. ➳ A random headcanon: Even though Asha wear her hair short for practical reasons, and kinda because she finds caring for long hair a drag, she thinks about growing it longer. A small part of her wishes to wear her hair like her mother. ➳ General Opinion over said character: House Greyjoy together has three braincells and Asha owns one and a half of them. Regarding her broken home it’s a miracle she came out this thoughtful, organized, and realistic.Yet I think her inability to enter deeper emotional relationships with not only lovers but also her little brother is a sign of Balon’s horrible parenting.
❇ Catelyn Stark-Tully ➳Sexuality Headcanon: Bi-sexual but as Cat is Cat... will she ever realize this? ➳Gender Headcanon: Cis female ➳A ship I have with said character: Ned, I tear up whenever reading about her grief over his loss. Okay, and Theon because rawr~.
➳A BROTP I have with said character: Brienne of Tarth, Rodrik Cassel, Edmure Tully, Brynden Tully,  ➳ A NOTP I have with said character: Cat x Little Finger ➳ A random headcanon: She can’t sit still and needs to be busy constantly. Unlike many Westerosian families she tries to squeeze in as much time with her children as possible. She loves to make their hair. When she’s sick and is forces to stay in bed he secretly begins to embroid pieces she later wants to sew on her daughter’s wedding dresses. ➳ General Opinion over said character: Fans being deivided over her is understandable. Whereas Catelyn is emotionally intelligent, a skilled diplomat, a good mother, a loving wife, she also holds double standards and grudges under which emotionally neglected children like Jon and Theon have to suffer.
❇ Edmure Tully ➳Sexuality Headcanon: Pansexual ➳Gender Headcanon: Cis Male ➳A ship I have with said character: Roslin Frey. the moment he saw her he was the goofiest idiot around her, it was adorable.
➳A BROTP I have with said character: Catelyn Stark, Brynden Tully, Jaime Lannister (it would be glorious) ➳ A NOTP I have with said character: Hmm... dunno ➳ A random headcanon: Later Edmure raises Rickon in his function as cool uncle which is a great idea as he knows how to handle Rickon’s temper and fuel it into productive energy. Shaggy elects Edmure as the few humans to pet him. When Sansa visits Rickon and Edmure in Riverrun she’s shocked how both strong resemble Robb.  ➳ General Opinion over said character: The most loveable idiot. Okay, Edmure isn’t stupid but he has a tendency to be a bit tone-deaf.
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what are your asoiaf (maybe pre-asoiaf idk) ships? also merci for being in this shit-storm we call a "fandom", you light in darkness
ahh thanks
i had a lot of fun with this.  i’ve deleted more asks than i can count asking me about what ships i don’t like, so getting to squee about what i do and dive down a rabbithole was great!
because i’m a fucking parody of myself, get excited for some layered bullet lists.
Stark 
Canon-era
Ned
Ned x Catelyn
Nedbert 
I like parts of Ned x Ashara, but wouldn’t say I’m #invested in it
Catelyn
Ned x Catelyn
Cat x Jaime was my first crackship and I’ve grown away from it but it holds a fond place in my heart.
Cat x Cersei would be incredible tbh
Cat x Brienne
Robb
Robb x Jeyne
I was big into Robb x Myrcella back in the day.  Less so now, but I’m distantly fond of it.
Throbb (I mean...how can you not love the ship with the name Throbb?  It’s like...perfect...as a ship name....and I hate...ship names....)
Robb x Margaery
I’m also casually into things like Robb x Meera and Robb x one of the Mormonts bc Robb x Northern Ladies is great.
I kind of like Robb x Roslin, but prefer Edmure x Roslin and don’t think the “what if the Red Wedding had never happened” AU is interesting to me at the moment.
Jon
Lately I’ve been super big into Jon x Daenerys (in case ya missed it l o l).
This I find to be hilarious because I think there are definitely receipts to be found somewhere on this website of me going “ew jon/dany is so boring ew” womp wompw omp wopm wopmw
Cackling @ my past self
This also happened with me and SanSan which I find similarly hilarious.
Other than that the main one I have is Jon x Asha (the good ship Crowken) because it’d be most excellent and you know it.  It’s been a while since I wrote it, and they have never interacted so it’s based purely on potential.
Which lends itself well to the mostly unpopulated ship of Jon x Asha x Daenerys, which like...hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah gimme.
Sansa
Hi I’m perpetually in SanSan hell bye  (no, this is not an exagerration)
I also am rowing my little Sansa x Edric rowboat come play it’s great and hits so many of my !!!!!!!!!!s about Sansa’s themework (and also Edric but he’s a smaller character so headcanons abound!)
I wish I shipped Sansa x Brienne more than I do; I salute it from afar tbh, and hope the books will give me more fodder for it.
Sansa x Podrick is heartcluchingly adorable
Sansa x Mya is the lesbian ship that Sansa deserves fight me
I have more emotions than shippy feelings about Sansa and Theon; I think what shippy feels I have come from Theon’s wistfulness more than actively shipping it.
On that note, I also like Sansa x Myrcella a good deal
I’m fond of Sansa x Tyrion tbh and hope they don’t get their marriage anulled in TWOW bc I think that’d be fascinating since everyone assumes it’s gonna happen (including Sansa). I’m down with it as an endgame ship for Sansa t b q h.
Arya
Hello and welcome to my Arya x Gendry tag
I multiship Arya a lot, actually, but AxG hits so many of my personal boners that it’s the big deal in my life and when I find myself in times of trouble, GRRM comes to me, speaking words of wisdom “you can be my forest love and me your forest lass”
I also like Arya x Aegon blame Jo she did this to me
Arya x Myrcella and Arya x Tommen are both wildly underrated ships imo
As is Arya x Shireen
Arya x Hot Pie is something I wasn’t expecting to like but then a few years ago an IRL friend of mine talked about how she goes out, does stuff, and comes home to freshly baked pies and how great that was as a life and I havne’t been able to let go.
Arya x Podrick sure why not
Bran
Bran x Meera = important
Bran x Lyanna Mormont = a big good thing
I respect, even if I don’t ship, Bran x Jojen.  Not so much my thing.  Bran x Meera is where it’s at for me and the Reeds.
Rickon
HI LET DADVOS BREATHE AND MARRY GAY RICKON TO HIS SON STEFFON K BYE.
Pre-series
Elia x Lyanna is v v v important
Arthur x Lyanna is also a good ship
Arya Flint x Rodrik Stark is a great ship too, I keep meaning to write more of them.
Brandon x Barbrey is a hot mess and I love that
Torrhen Stark x Aegon the Conqueror
Targaryen
Daenerys
As mentioned above Jon x Dany is a thing
I’m also into Dany x Tyrion
Peter Dinklage did this to me he’s so gd talented @ fandom please don’t be really gross and ableist when HBO turns this into a love triangle (since they already did).
Ok, let’s be real here, pissing off Tywin Lannister also did this to me though to a lesser extent than Peter Dinklage can you imagine how mad he’d be?  It’d be fantastic.  Fuck that guy so hard.
Dany x Asha also is a good
I’m into Dany x Daario because I like Dany having agency and she chose the actual human peacock so you know what girl I personally wouldn’t go there but I’m glad that you got to choose this particular relationship for yourself.
Everyone Else
As mentioned abouve Arya x Aegon
I crackship Rhaenys x Viserys idk man I just do
Big Into Aegon x Betha
I love Elaena Targaryen and all her love interests but if I had to Pick One it’d be Michael Manwoody
I mostly wish I had a ship for Rhaella.  Maybe Willem Darry??  
Brynden x Shiera is a good ship I have such specific headcanons for them that I did to myself writing a first person modern AU that I keep trying to get people to care about as much as I do.  
God I can’t think of other Targaryens, chances are I ship them lol
Lannister
Tyrion
I like Tyrion x Tysha, but am not sure I ever want them to meet again?  I’m very torn on that front bc both outcomes would mean such different things.
As I said above, I also like both Dany and Sansa as Tyrion ships
I also have a pointless AU in my head that is a Tyrion x Lyanna au, but I’ll never write it bc I don’t have enough of a plot so much as a “wow I’ve liked this for years.”
Cersei
Jaime
Also Cat as a crackship
Also Rhaegar as a “what if”
Jaime
Cersei
Cat as a crackship
I have very torn and mixed feelings about Jaime/Brienne.  It hits a lot of what I like about Brienne, but hits very little of what I care about with Jaime and Saw some Things that Made Me Mad a while back.  And then I read Bea’s thesis about Brienne and got even more confused.  So idk man idk idk idk.  idk.
Baratheon
Robert
Ned is basically the only acceptable ship for Robert tbqh
Though someone wrote a Robert/Cat AU that I liked?
Stannis
Big into Stannis/Asha
And Stannis/Asha/Jon
Also Stannis/Mel
Renly
Loras is it kids.
Gendry
AXG or bust.  I’m a multishipper on Arya’s end but am Not Really on Gendry’s.  Maybe a Heddle sister?  Maybe?  but AXG or Bust TBH.
Shireen
Shireen x Devan is the cutest
I also like Shireen x Edric
And Shireen x Arya
Myrcella
Myrcella x Trystane is adorable
Myrcella x Sansa and Myrcella x Arya are similarly cute
Tommen
I read a Tommen x Arya AU I liked--other than that I don’t have major shippy feels about him.
Other Ships
Alys x Sigorn is a top notch ship
Elia x Arthur is a similarly top notch ship
Missandei x Grey Worm is the best thing to happen on GOT tbh.
I’m at the end of my leash and can’t think of more and this is probably more than you bargained for when you sent this ask isn’t it?
If you’re reading this and you saw me miss something lmk??
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fvckiminthecloset · 5 months
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Day Five: Which is worse of all these non-canon ships in ASOIAF?
PREVIOUS ROUNDS:
Day One: Tie of 25.5% between Sansa and Jon and Aemond and Lucerys
Day Two: Brandon and Ned and Lyanna and Benjen at 33.3%
Day Three: Sansa and Sandor at 29%
Day Four: Catelyn and Edmure ELIMINATED at 48.4%
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cyranode · 7 years
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Chapters: 70/70 Fandom: Game of Thrones (TV), A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Rape/Non-Con Relationships: Sandor Clegane/Sansa Stark, Sandor Clegane & Sansa Stark, Sandor Clegane & Arya Stark, Talisa Maegyr/Robb Stark, Robb Stark & Sansa Stark & Catelyn Stark, Alys Karstark/Jon Snow, Jon Snow & Arya Stark, Sandor Clegane & Jon Snow, Jon Snow & Arya Stark & Sansa Stark, Arya Stark/Gendry Waters, Shireen Baratheon & Bran Stark, Shireen Baratheon/Bran Stark, Shireen Baratheon & Sansa Stark, Sansa Stark&Alys Karstark, Arya Stark & Sansa Stark Characters: Sansa Stark, Sandor Clegane, Robb Stark, Catelyn Tully Stark, Arya Stark, Brynden Tully, Edmure Tully, Joffrey Baratheon, Cersei Lannister, Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton, Lyanna Mormont, Jon Snow, Bran Stark, Tormund Giantsbane, Robett Glover, Wyman Manderly, Dacey Mormont, Maege Mormont, Jon "The Smalljon" Umber, Jon "The Greatjon" Umber, Black Walder Frey, Walder Frey, Lothar Frey, Wendel Frey, Sandor Frey, Roslin Frey, Thoros of Myr, Beric Dondarrion, Anguy (Game of Thrones), Ramsay Bolton, Stannis Baratheon, Selyse Baratheon, Shireen Baratheon, Theon Greyjoy, Jeyne Poole, Ryman Frey, Meera Reed, Hodor (ASoIaF), Rickon Stark, Galbart Glover, Brienne of Tarth, The Elder Brother (ASoIaF), Septon Meribald, Fat Walda Frey, Arnolf Karstark, Mors "Crowfood" Umber, Hother "Whoresbane" Umber, Alys Karstark, Melisandre of Asshai, Wendel Manderly, Wylis Manderly, Daenerys Targaryen, Tyrion Lannister, Margaery Tyrell, Gendry Waters, Wynafryd Manderly, Wylla Manderly, Marlon Manderly, Jered Frey, Rhaegar Frey, Howland Reed, Yara Greyjoy, Barbrey Dustin, Justin Massey, Samwell Tarly, Edd Tollett, Axell Florent, Godry Farring, Asha Greyjoy, Cregan Karstark, Arthor Karstark, Hosteen Frey, Aenys Frey, Jorelle Mormont, Lyra Mormont, Myranda (Game of Thrones), Randyll Tarly, Dickon Tarly, Petyr Baelish, Harrold Hardyng, Yohn Royce, Lyn Corbray, Podrick Payne, Maester Wolkan, Lhara, Cotter Pyke, Brad Lannister Additional Tags: Canon-Typical Violence, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Post-The Battle of the Blackwater, POV Sansa, POV Sandor, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Other POVs, Loss of Virginity, Rape/Non-con Elements, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Fluff, Fluff and Smut, Angst, sansan, SanSan is happening, Elements Season 3-6, medium slow burn i guess, Ramsay is his own warning, no sansa/ramsay, Realistic, medieval traditions, Minor Character Death, Character Death, valar morghulis, Gendrya - Freeform, Wolf Puppies, R plus L equals J, jon x spoiler, bran x spoiler, podrick x spoiler, goblin humping Series: Part 1 of Singing Birds Summary:
Sansa and Sandor escape Kings Landing in the chaos of Stannis Baratheons attack of the city. During their journey to Riverrun, back to Sansas mother and brother,they develope a deep friendship and Sandor finally gives in to stay as her shield. The gods have decided that the fearsome Hound and the Little Bird are destined to be together, even though the reunion with her family doesnt turn out as Sansa imagined. If you thought happiness would come without pain and suffering in Westeros you havent been paying attention.
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incblackbird · 7 years
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Can I ask what are your top ten favourite ASOIAF characters?
Of course you can ask that, anon :) I tend to love making top x' of everything! With aosiaf it's been set for a long time though, the problem is that a top 10 isn't big enough, so I have a top 7 that doesn't change and then I have a bunch of characters that I want in my top 10 but there's not enough space for them so I'll give you a top 20 instead :) 1. Theon Greyjoy2. Ramsay Bolton (NEVER SNOW!!)3. Jaime Lannister 4. Lancel Lannister5. Cersei Lannister6. Jon Snow7. Sansa Stark8. Euron Greyjoy9. Edmure Tully10. Viserys Targaryan11. Asha Greyjoy12. Doran Martell13. Quentyn Martell14. Roose Bolton15. Davos Seaworth16. Hizdarh Zo Loraq17. Littlefinger18. Kyra19. Jeyne Poole20. Taena MerryweatherBonus (because I can): Characters I dislike: 1.Ned Stark2.Catelyn Tully3.Barristan Selmy4.Rodrik Cassel5.Daenerys Targaryan
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fvckiminthecloset · 5 months
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Day Six: Which is the worse of all these non-canon ships in ASOIAF?
PREVIOUS ROUNDS:
Day One: Tie of 25.5% between Sansa and Jon & Aemond and Lucerys
Day Two: Brandon and Ned and Lyanna and Benjen at 33.3%
Day Three: Sansa and Sandor at 29%
Day Four: Catelyn and Edmure at 48.4%
Day Five: Victarion Greyjoy and Asha (Yara) Greyjoy ELIMINATED at 30.8%
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