#gayness does that to you

[ash-and-starlight]

one day, in a thousand years

[charmac]

Do you think Mac has jacked off while reading the Bible? Or is he too ashamed? Or does the shame just turn him on more? Are the pages of his Bible all stuck together?

Oh, I don't think; we know:

(Pages stuck together, thanks for the confirmation, Charlie)

I think the shame definitely turns him on more, considering Mac Day:

And, the connected punishment, lest we forget The Gang Goes to Hell... (and the script here... whew)

While he was repressed then, he wasn't as of Charlie's Home Alone, so I think it's clear to claim that a part of his "homosexual awakening" was connected to the fact that he was gradually getting more and more into the idea of being punished (gone sexual) for his sins, to a point where he was just genuinely jerking off to the "evils of homosexuality"

I do wanna continue here though and say Season 15 is pretty interesting because we see Mac battle between being Catholic and proudly gay. He seemingly has no issue bragging to a Priest in the middle of a church that he's into triple penetration, but it is his sex life that is the driving "reasoning" for why he thinks he should become a Catholic Priest:

He's been "S-ing&F-ing" his way though life for too long and now he thinks God has taken away one of his identities (Irish) as a result. Mac's idea of being punished by/for God continues, but it's now through the form of revocation (as opposed to shame or flagellation). I think there's a clear "connect the dots" idea that depriving himself of sex (via becoming a Priest) is an "evolved" form of allowing God to punish him for being gay.

Obviously Mac learns he was lied to, as he actually is Irish, so his "journey" here is a bit of a wash, but the fact that his rationale jumped to God punishing him for having gay sex still stands. As he grows to accept himself, he's still looking for ways to feel shame (which, as we've seen, gets him off)...

But is the constant seeking for some form of punishment still there? We didn't see much of his Catholicism in Season 16 (I think the only mention of God from Mac was in The Gang Gets Cursed), but we did continue to see his sex life and—well, that was pretty heavy on Mac, openly gay dating, somehow managing to be neglected and deprived of actual gay sex, wasn't it?

[thereallycoolmonsterithoughtup]

marcille overcomes her internalized homophobia with the power of friendship

[morphean42]

It is with a heavy heart that I must admit defeat. For Five glorious years I have been apart of the Supernatural fandom without having seen an entire episode. I have seen the edits, the meta, the fanfic and fanart. I was there when Destiel went canon and almost made Putin resign. And yet I’ve held onto my sanity, I committed to the bit— never watch that hell spawn of a show. But, good comrades of Tumblr, I must now declare the bit to be over. It was a good run, but I will be venturing into the dangerous world of Supernatural once and for all. May god save my soul.

[musicalmoritz]

There is not a single straight bone in Mitsuba’s body like I genuinely believe that man could never like a woman. Sousuke I know what you are

[ssruis]

Someone said it was specifically targeted and bigoted against gay men to get mad @ that one post and the fact that people ignore the female characters for the 4 male ones/male ships. Oh we’re so cooked. we’re reinventing meninism.

[quinnsanestuff]

ok but whats the actual stance on gays in thedas is it a dont ask dont tell situation?

none of your companions are homophobic as far as im aware, they dont comment on you being gay at all BUT theres several moments where, during a gay romance you can bring up the fact that ur the same gender as an issue

[13eyond13]

8 and 3 for DN? (:

thanks! 8. DN + common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about: Light would NOT remain in denial about being gay forever, nor would he perhaps be extremely self-flagellating about it... in fact I feel like he actually already knew by the end of the story (around the time when he was inwardly like "yeah, you're right, most of this WAS because I was just that obsessed with L....") My headcanon is he might still be pretty inclined to lead a double life around it, but he's probably not actually that ashamed of the idea of being gay once he actually realizes and accepts it 3. Screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on Tumblr: Any of those in-all-seriousness hot takes that go something like "Light was SO stupid for not changing the causes of death in the notebook, nobody would have tracked him down if he was more creative with it lmaoo what an idiot." MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HE DID THAT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BE NOTICED / WAS TRYING TO BECOME A GOD PASSING RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT ON THE MASSES, it's literally in chapter/episode one, he says it's "the best thing about the notebook" that it defaults to a heart attack, and HE ALSO WAS TRYING TO LURE L IN WITH A LOT OF WHAT HE DID ON PURPOSE SO HE COULD FIND AND KILL HIM AS WELL etc etc etc dafjajaja it literally makes me foam at the mouth and turn into the most ackshually know-it-all keyboard warrior if I don't give myself a moment to calm down lol

[choose violence]

[slime-crafters]

George's high heart Wednesday dialogue when you're a male farmer married to Alex makes me melt I love this old man

[parelmoer]

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[timeisacephalopod]

Why do right wingers go on and ON about "father's in the home" when fathers are basically useless in the home? Like every year I see posts that go around about "dad finding out about what I got for Christmas" and it's like if fathers are so uninvolved they don't even know what Christmas gifts their kids are getting I don't think them being gone does much?? Like of course there's good and bad parents of all genders, but traditional gender roles- which the aforementioned right wingers ascribe to- mean men do jack fucking squat in the house OR anything with their kids so what the hell do right wingers think men are doing that's so important in the home if it's none of the childrearing or house work??

All I've got in this framework is a paycheque and these days women work so men wouldn't even be contributing something women DON'T, so I have no idea what these people think men are doing that it's so irreplaceable that being gone is damaging to children when by all means under their ideas of gender and family men are less than useless to their family. Women do all that work (and barring that, DAUGHTERS do more parental work than fathers so them being gone does what, exactly, except maybe rid the family of an overgrown child? Men who actually contribute are the ones families would be damaged without, not traditional men who probably don't even know how to do their own laundry OR cook or have any life skills because women have done everything for them their whole lives so???)

[bylertruther]

season five isn't going to be the byler show because we all have brains and recognize this is an ensemble sci fi show obviously, but it is kinda funny to hear people argue that because the duffers specifically point out in their pitch that will is gay and gets kidnapped soon after realizing it, then in season one have everyone who isn't "in the know" assume that this occurred because he's gay, thus really linking this realization with his disappearance both supernaturally and also to those outside of the main cast. this means that you can't separate the two. there's more to it of course, but will being gay and the consequences he faces for that is intertwined.

not only that, but they then reveal his kidnapper to be will's perfect character foil--love vs hate, light vs dark, hope vs despair, optimism vs cynicism, freedom vs subjugation, light wizard vs dark wizard, etc.

vecna spends all of season four preying on those who are traumatized and "other". he enshrouds them in their darkness until they succumb to it and believe it to be true, and gains strength from their despair.

what does will spend all of season four doing?

he stays by mike's side and banishes his deepest, darkest insecurities by basking him in his light. he listens to mike's worries and his secrets and tells him no, you're wrong, you're absolutely wrong and here's why. this is who you really are: someone worthy, capable, and strong. don't listen to that voice in your head; it's lying to you, mike. he gives mike hope and a way out of his darkness. he frees him from the grips of self-hate out of the goodness of his heart, not because he stands to gain anything from it.

vecna uses people's darkest and scariest memories to trap them and will uses one of mike's happy and safe memories to help him.

vecna gains strength from pain and rage and will gains strength from love and acceptance; acceptance that he felt from mike all his life and then acceptance that he specifically received from jonathan in the back kitchen.

time and time again, season four made sure to show us that they are two sides of the same coin and will's story cannot be extricated from mike and his romantic love for him, so like... season five is not going to be the byler show, but it also ... kind of is going to be the byler show lmao.

if season five is going to feature will then automatically it will feature mike and if it features them then it will pick up on their unfinished plot from season four and if love and acceptance are vecna's weaknesses and love and acceptance are what byler feel and receive from each other then... how is it not the byler show?

obviously other stuff is going to happen because they're not the only two characters in a romance show, but like ... to act like season four [for them] wasn't all about their relationship, the unsaid things that sit between them, and how will's love for mike is not only what made him able to finally say i love you to eleven for the first time but also precisely the love that he was trying to get from her, and that somehow that isn't going to bleed into season five and be resolved and be the exact kind of love and acceptance that will defeat vecna because will's otherness is rooted in his queerness and season five is literally his coming of age and also he's the focus and we'll be exploring his relation to everything because he is In Fact Actually connected to Everything and always has been is just .... weird. and nonsensical.

[oldtvandcomics]

This is such a Mood though.

Maggie: *dies* Maggie: *comes back to life with superpowers* Maggie: *spends the entire day being examined by specialized scientists trying to figure out what the fuck just happened* Varsha: “I haven’t seen D.E.B.S.” Maggie: “YOU HAVEN’T SEEN...?! And you call yourself a lesbian?! We are watching D.E.B.S. RIGHT NOW!!”

Exactly what I would have done in her position.

[neroushalvaus]

I'm a theologian, do you expect me to think about Thomas Barrow's relationship with God without thinking about the watchmaker analogy

[theoryofarson]

gaya se pellikula i am at my LIMIT please give these characters a happy ending

[melto]

having soo many emotions abt what did you eat yesterday rn *starts fucking screaming and crying and thrashing around*