#helluva boss rant

[shinmothra13returns]

"Good Morality" Doesn't Work in the Helluverse

It never had either of morality to begin with due to the stories being a bit rushed and not very persistent with the concept they are using.

[daizthecraze]

It’s genuinely hilarious how much of an afterthought Octavia is in Stolas’s mind. I didn’t watch the latest episode cuz I’ve completely given up on the show, I’ve just seen a post, but you’re telling me he said out loud he’ll rather be dead without Blitz by his side and his daughter heard him!!?. (Even if it was a soliloquy) the fact that he thinks that is just soo sad in a bad way. “Stolas cares about Octavia” MY ASS. Him saying “what about my daughter when his powers were taken away at the end and all of his fans just ate that shit up LMFAO be fr.

[ghst001]

While I like helluva boss sometimes I have to rant about the treatment of Barbie wire (she had so much potential only to show up in 4mins of screentime of her doing nothing but selling and doing drugs (bc of depression and addiction etc that will probably will never get explored about her character) and that’s it they didn’t tell us nothing else about her and yet she’s supposed be blitzo twin and in a circus act with him but no that role was given to fizzarolii his best friend

(of course a male character that viz would rather give all the focus to than blitzos literally twin sister who was shown in the picture in the pilot) Barbie wire had little screentime in her first ep instead it was a Millie and moxie ep with nothing interesting to tell and she was shoved in there out of nowhere I swear nothing would change if it she was removed from the ep that’s sad. Verosika had a more impact in her episode. interesting idea it was implied that she knew about blitzos sister in rehab

and viz could have done something interesting with them and give them a backstory about how they met and bonded over hating blitzo and maybe there’s a story to tell about Barbies scars and her pov of the fire(that she was strangely cut from) and where did she get the asmodean crystal that’s in her watch (maybe she stole it from verosika and that’s why she insulted her name)

but I doubt it maybe blitzo messed up and we only get his side of the story and not barbie’s and she is never mentioned or seen again. A lot of fans lost interest in her ever since unhappy campers that’s sad I just want her to have her own episodes like fizzarolli did when he and blitzo talked it out (also the fact that fizz has never mentioned her once or asked about her..) they were raised in the same circus man maybe I’m being too impatient

[kittenface40]

Helluva Boss' Racism is Hollow & Nonsensical - Helluva Boss Critique

Racism is a sensitive and mature topic, to talk about not only in the media we consume but in general real life, with many news outlets covering it, the effects it has on everyone, and the many reporting of racism in the world.

Now those of you are wondering, 'why am I talking about this?' Well this relates to today's topic in which I'll be discussing Helluva Boss' portrayal of racism, and my problems with it. 'Why am I talking about this?' some of you are thinking. Well due to the recent episode of 'Full Moon' on Season 2 Ep 8, specifically these lines said by Blitz to Stolas, towards the end of the episode: "Treat me like one of your butler Imps. You can just dismiss me like that! I mean you royal fucks think you can do this every time! Like you can just play with our feelings because we're smaller and not as important!"

While this line is incredibly well delivered by the voice acting, it falls flat on it's face through the writing from the previous episodes and the world building as well, it doesn't hit as hard as intended from the writers.

It Started Off so Good (Season 1):

Surprisingly, the world building wasn't all that bad, it was pretty decent (but not perfect, as I'll explain later) at the start of the series, with Imps and Hellhound racism.

This is shown with how Stolas treats Imps, by him looking down on them through his demeaning comments to Blitz calling him; little bitty imp, my impish little plaything; and even calling other imps racist comments, 'littler ones' referring to Moxxie and Millie, 'tiny wrath ring imps' to the Imps in the Harvest Moon Festival.

Aside from making racist comments, Stolas does other things, such as pinching Blitz' cheek, using his horn as an ashtray, ignoring Blitz comments on how he says his name and finally but most importantly of all, coercing Blitz into having sex with him in exchange for having the book, to keep his job.

They even show that Hellhounds are considered bottom of the barrel, with Millie's rude comments towards Luna, referring to her as a 'Hellhound' rather than saying her name, or referring to her as Blitz daughter to her parents.

However, as the series goes on there are examples of the racism in Helluva Boss being incredibly inconsistent throughout the show.

It Slowly goes Downhill:

Surprisingly, the problems start off in Season 1, where many of the Sinners that hire IMP, aren't even racist towards them, while hiring them. They just talk to them as a customer instead of the Sinners looking down at them condescendingly, making racist remarks about them, being shocked that imps are starting a business, or even opposing to the idea of imps starting a business; whether they hate the idea of imps rising up to power by starting a business since it goes against the societal norms of Hell or they feel like the business of IMP is flawed. The idea of sinners being stuck with the same person that got them killed is something that should be called out in universe, but it isn't. Another good point I forgot to mention, is that no one is even put off by Blitz, hiring and adopting Loona. A Hellhound as his daughter, giving her a job and Blitz treating him incredibly well. None of the sinners/clients, none of the Goetias (Octavia & Stolas), and not even Moxxie, Millie (who was quite racist to Loona) and the other Imps in Hell find that weird and unusual. This would establish to the audience that Imps and Hellhounds are the lowest class of hell, by how they're treated by much higher classes in Hell. The problem is that the writers use sinners who have died moments ago that ended up in Hell, such as Mrs Mayberry, Loopty Doopty & the Camp Counsellor. Instead of using Sinners who have been in Hell for years, and have been exposed to how Hell works, being racist towards IMP, Loona as a entitled customer, Blitz has to bear being mistreated and get used to it for the sake of his company and those around him.

A Snowball of Problems starts:

Before we go onto Season 2, there are massive problems. We need to address the elephant in the room in Season 1, more specifically in Episode 8 of Queen Bee, where Beelzebub the embodiment of Greed is dating, Tex, a Hellhound. Now the reason as to why this is bad, is because that no one in the show even bats an eye to it, Loona doesn't, the other Party goers don't, this doesn't have consequences of Tex talking about his relationship to Bee, such as rumours spreading from those outside the party within Hell and effecting the lives of Tex & Bee. But some of the defences may say, "Beelzebub is the sin of Greed and she's overindulging in her sin, by dating a Hellhound." If she was to overindulge in her sin, she would be eating copious amounts of food and drink, not dating Tex, someone who is a part of the lowest class of Society. She would represent her sin Greed, instead of being stupid and breaking class rules, that would possibly get her into some really serious trouble.

The weirdest part is that in the previous episode 7 called 'The Finale', where Fizz & Ozzie call out Stolas for dating a lower class Imp. Ozzie telling him, "he sold his life for a thrust" as well as Stolas worryingly glancing around at the guests in Ozzie's, worrying what will happen now that people know that he's been sleeping with an Imp.

(Side tangent: But how does Ozzie & Fizz know that Stolas has been sleeping with Blitz, just because they were seen at a club, that doesn't mean they were sleeping with each other, yeah they were at a club for lust, but .)

This problem spirals out of control, in Season 2 Episode 3, where Moxxie's Dad, Crimson, is introduced as a Mafia Boss in the Greed Ring, working with Loan Sharks.

Many people have pointed out their grievances with this idea, the reason is because that it's been established by Striker back in Season 1 in the Harvest Moon Festival, where Striker learns that Blitz, an imp, is leading his own business:

Striker: "Boss huh? *Meets Blitzo for the first time* Oh! So you're the bold imp that started his own killing bizz!" Blitz: "Yeah well when you're good at something, you should capitalise!" Striker: "Not many imps start their businesses on their own, that's impressive sir! *winks at Blitz*" Blitz: "Oh? Yeah, it is, I guess, I guess it is, isn't it!"

This scene gives exposition to the audience that imps running their own business is rare and uncommon in the realms of this Hell, to the point where it's considered 'impressive' by another imp, for his own species to lead his own business.

So Crimson, an imp, is able to run a mafia with ease, undermines the idea of imps and hellhounds being the lowest class in Hell, as he is a Mafia Boss and being able to lead a gang of sharks with ease without any problems. Since none of the Sharks goons express any racism towards Crimson, cause he is their boss or other imps, like Blitz, Millie & Moxxie.

The fact that Millie and Blitz are not shocked about Crimson, an imp, leading a Mafia or even mentioning it once during 'Exes and Oohs' is really weird, they don't talk about how he came into power or wonder how an imp was able to lead on a gang of Sharks into obeying him without any troubles. Even more unusual, is that Moxxie doesn't even talk to them on how Crimson became a Mafia Boss. Honestly, I'm surprised that Striker, didn't make a comment on Crimson being a Mafia Boss when he and Crimson met for the first time.

Speaking of Striker, let's go onto Season 2 Episode 4, 'Western Energy.'

The Snowball of Problems Gets Bigger:

This problem grows bigger in this episode, where Stella, a Goetia, who is supposed to be racist towards imps, right next to other royalties and blue bloods, is willing to pay a imp to have her husband be assassinated. It gets even worse that she's willing to pay him extra just to have him tortured. It's even worse when you take Blitzo's line from Full Moon: "I mean you royal fucks think you can do this every time! Like you can just play with our feelings because we're smaller and not as important!"

This line doesn't hit as hard as it should due to imp racism not being showcased throughout the show, the most we get it from was Stolas talking down against Blitzo. Cause the imps get treated well throughout the show, they can have jobs, they can get their own homes and are even IMP are paid by Sinners. They're even allowed to build their own families, if an imp couple would like to do so, as shown with Millie's parents. It's even worse with Hellhounds, when you consider that Vortex is allowed to date Bee, the Sin of Gluttony, or without any kind repercussions from Satan nor Asmodeus dating Fizz (since that information is now public, from FIZZ & MAMMON episode).

In Conclusion:

The racism in Helluva Boss, is hollow, due to the discrimination towards imps, not being shown in the show at all, from the Ars Goetia, to the Seven Deadly Sins, to even the Sinners who have lived longer within Hell.

[g-on-ef]

I cave and watched the new episode of helluva boss and saben que ??? I'm out I'm tapping out like this episode was it for me.

Like Viv do you even know what's going on in your show ??? !!! Do you even know what kind of world you created and the rules you set for it ??? !!!

Like my first question is HOW OLD IS LOONA ??? !!!

Like for someone who claims to hate Blitz and Co she sure as hell spends a lot of time with them instead of leaving especially since she's always being an asshole towards Blitz and Moxxie.

Also sorry viv the dad comment means shit if you're gonna have her attack Blitz because he asked for her to be more kinder to their clients

Again HOW OLD IS THIS WOMAN ??? !!!

My next thing Imps are at the bottom of the barrel than it's hellhounds so why are

They allowed to own a business in the Pride Ring where Lucifer reigns ??? Like shouldn't the king of hell put a stop to their business and have them kill cause ain't no way this man hasn't gotten wiff of what's going on in Earth

Able to go to a successful restaurant club whatever Ozzies was and not get kicked out or the very least sit in the back ???

a hellhound and a deadly sin dating ???

Why is Ozzie and Fizz and Tex and that bee chic able to date openly but it's taboo for Stolas and Blitz ??? !!!

Why was the bee chic who was supposed to represent gluttony stopping Blitz from indulging in large amounts of alcohol like does Viv know what the deadly sins mean and what they represent ??? Or are they just there for aesthetic reasons ???

Like what the freak is even going on ??? !!!

Also it's hard to feel sorry for Blitz when he's got no redeemable qualities like how do you want me to feel sorry for him when you haven't fleshed him out or give me reasons to care ??? !!!

This episode shows that Viv hasn't a clue what she's doing and only cares about designs of her characters like don't get me started on that god awful design !!!

[abrisaber]

Stolas what the actual FUCK do you mean "when have I ever talked down to you?" Did I fucking hallucinate all the times you've referred to Blitzo as "my little imp" Was Blitzo supposed to suddenly realize that all your insistent sexual advances towards Blitzo that he was only accepting so he could keep his fucking job were suddenly romantic advances? Why is the show trying to treat Stolas like he's "the bigger person" when for 99% of his relationship with Blitzo he's been the one playing the role of instigator? Why does the show try to make Blitzo feel like complete shit when the entire original point of his character is that he feels like shit because he's treated like shit. You're telling me that NONE of the DOZENS of people know his history? Trauma isn't an excuse but do you REALLY THINK that all of these people would still behave in such petty and cruel manners towards Blitzo is they actually knew how he felt? Do you ACTUALLY THINK that these people would be 100% in support of Stolas as the "freshest ex" if they knew that Blitzo fucking Stolas was the only way he'd be able to keep his fucking livelyhood??

This show is doing all the right things for the wrong reasons. I don't think Blitzo is in the right at all, but I cannot STOMACH the way the show is treating him like he's the bad guy when he's been through so much shit and NOBODY FUCKING CARES. NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW HIS MOTHER DIED IN A FIRE THAT EVERYONE BLAMES HIM FOR??? NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW STOLAS'S BOOK WAS THE ONLY WAY BLITZO WAS ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING IN THE FIRST PLACE??? Absolute fucking insanity. This show sucks.

[spextr1m]

So, you're telling me that Stella was s'pposed to be Beatrice Horseman in Hell but Vivi threw her character writing into the garbage dump and threw it to the fire like a sick joke by pulling "Oh, she's straight up shitty person".

Edit (5/4/25): Done, thanks to the commenter

[pastellia63]

Man, i sure to love Stella being once again portayed as dumb to hype up her brother!

AND more incestous comments from Andrealphous, lovely! Haven't they learned from the first time he did that? I don't even think it was done on purpose to show that he was gross like that or anything, rather then it just being a "quirky" thing he just does.

Anyway this episode sucked, Stolas shows up to play hero and is completely okay with lying instead of admiting he had infact coerced Blitzø, just to have this cool moment of him sacrifing himself.

(and to of course make Octavia suffer once again because this show much like with Blitzø does NOT give her a break when it comes to her father)

The scene with her hugging her mom was pretty bittersweet, even if it was just to show Stella smirking evily to show how evil and bad she is or whatever

Okay now to talk about something more positive, the scenes between Blitzø and Loona were actually so sweet :(

i wish we could have seen more of them, i don't think we really got to explore their dynamic enough, and i'm really sad since their father and daughter relationship is one of the reasons why i had stuck around for this show besides Octavia and Verosika (before they butchered her character).

They all deserved better

[invadezimfan]

Blitzø (season 1 and half of season two) vs Blitzø now after Mastermind and Sinsmas in a nutshell

He went from a fun jacka** who has anger issues, seeks off for revenge, commit crimes for fun, gets laid so many times, refuse to bow down to the royals and even has a sad backstory about his family issues into now a simp servant who will now bow down to his royal boyfriend and will do anything for him even if he still treats him like garbage.

The way of how Viv wrote him now feels so insulting and disrespectful to this main protagonist she made. Blitzø was supposed to be a character who will never bow down to any higher ups and wants to be special by making his own business but now all sudden, he betrayed himself by becoming a simp butler to his s*x offender that he now adores and was rewarded for no dam reasons.

Look I know that they’re in hell and they can do whatever they want but if Viv wanted to make this show to be more softy and refused to kill things that are lgbt related, then what was the point making them as hell demons if you’re just gonna keep babying it by creating stupid canon ships that no one asked for or affecting their dam feelings. If they were humans, aliens or animals, then it would’ve make sense.

I also put Sid in Ice Age 5 as the comparison since he got horribly flanderized by becoming more stupider and annoying and even was pointed out by the YouTuber, Animat that he was rewarded with a woman for no reason (like of how Blitzø was rewarded with a man for no reason).

[hiddenturtlecity]

Believe it or not, this whole scene can be a good parallel to what *specifically* went down with Blitzø and Verosika

Because I highly doubt, with what we know, this is the first time Blitz verbally lashed out at someone he had feelings for. And I have suspicions Stolas wasn't the only person was "thought so very low of" from Blitzø.

This is the very core of our main protagonist, everyone. The very weakness that has pushed so many people away from him to the point of them having resentment. Blitzø carries his insecurities as if they are his literal scars. They remind him how much he has ruined lives and relationships (whether or not it was even his fault.) Everytime he pushes someone away it ends up biting him in the ass. The very first time he did this, it caused a LITERAL fire, resulting in Blitz losing his best friend, sister, and mother. The second time, he chooses to max out money out of his own girlfriend's credit cards for horse riding lessons. And now this...

Everyone is talking about how hurt Stolas was from Blitz's words and this is actually important. Blitz made him out as if he was indeed a monster, and was just using him for his own gain and couldn't give less of a shit about him. However, no one so far has mentioned this could be the same hurt Verosika carries.

She definetly fell head over fucking heels for this imp- SERIOUSLY SHE HAS A TATTOO OF A HEART WITH HIS NAME. Despite being of lower class than her, Verosika couldn't care less about that. Like Stolas, Blitzø was probably the best thing that ever happened to her. Someone she cared about the most. Yet, like Stolas, Blitz refused to see that. To her, a succubus no less, it was only about sex. Cause who could seriously give a shit about someone as insignificant as him. So he pulls that stunt with her credit cards, a fight has possibly ensued, and he has left Verosika bitter and heartbroken. Because like Stolas, she did not realize he would think so low of her when she thought so highly about him. Its so easy for Blitzø stans to think of her as a bitch instead of a deeply hurt person..

[helloimamistake]

This image suddenly reminded me when brandon rogers "jokingly" said that octavia cockblock stolitz for some reason

[shinmothra13returns]

Vivziepop Just SOLD Helluva Boss??? (Hazbin Hotel Writing Rant)

And both series will be on Netflix. Abandon this train wreck of a series and watch something else than this.

[ms-cartoon]

This is so f*ckin stupid.

What is this?? Why TF are you clinging to him??

Demon prince my ass.

[marymousesoul-commsopen]

Helluva Rant Incoming!

Blitz is a selfish character and the fact people choose to ignore and misinterpret that in sinsmas because he 'berated moxxie for not wanting to kill the mother in murder family!' annoy me sooo much!

Like why wouldn't the selfish assassin boss character NOT be a hypocrite about his own killing morals! (Love Blitz sm btw I'm just statin some facts)

[rhiandoesfandom]

Thinking about how damn good of an episode The Circus 2x1 is.

-Phenomenal casting of the kids

-cute cute cute

-baby Stolas ☺️

-wormhorse

-the whole scene with baby blitz and fizz

-seeing origins of blitz's resilience and how he tries again and again to reach his goals.

-seeing origins of trauma and daddy issues for them both

-seeing origins of friendship and connection for them both

-"the chandelier scene"

-"I'll hire you!...maybe". "You'll hire me?" Possible season 3 foreshadowing

-flustered adult Stolas and Grimoire wanting blitz

-"you're here to ravish me aren't you"

-"and how much it means that the one who wants me is my first ever friend!"

-*caring blitz* fuuuuuck okay I can do this real fast

-THE NEXT MORNING 'REAL FAST'

-retelling of how they met again and making it canon again "sorry I fucked your husband"

-"that was the sound of a FUCKING DIVORCE HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!"

-Bryce Vocals "owwwwwllll in a caaaaage"

-Asmodean Crystal intention start

-Standing up to his abuser and finalizing his divorce.

I mean-just a fucking masterpiece

[suicidal-coffin-boy]

-Helluva boss season 2 rant-

Haven't posted in awhile since there isn't really much to post but yeah saw the new Helluva episode and well

I really like this thing