#historical fashion history

[crymeariveronceagain]

Share thoughts about the portrayal of structures underbodices please?

old fashioned bra.

people need to stop thinking that women back then were SOOO oppressed like no dude it was just a normal piece of clothing because bras hadn't been invented yet like how else are you gonna keep things together up there? idk? binding doesnt work well because we went from that to the corset im pretty sure, and like, corsets worked and millions and billions of women wore them during work and exercise and go outdoors and ride horses and just generally lived healthy normal lives! so often you see all these actresses talking about corsets that killed them or how awful it must have been to be a woman back when they were SOOO oppressed and had to wear! corsets! well guess what my girl Queen Victoria(y'know. badass girlboss) wore a corset and never once mentioned it. bras weren't invented until 1914!!! There were female authors, writers, and women in positions of power(although they were few), and women in the workplace! And! Not to mention! The clothing industry was primarily manufactured for and TO women for millenia! If women had issues with corsets they would have been fixed centuries before corsets and stays became widely accepted undergarments. Modern women saw a few pictures like the following:

which would have actually been COMEDIC at the time, since no one would have thought that's how to properly wear a corset, and just ran with it! I'm not saying that all corsets are good, and a lot of people now a days really have twisted ideas of how corsets were used and women who wear them now are often actively harming themselves. I think that's horrible, don't do it. but most corsets and stays were worn as legitimate undergarments, much like the modern woman wears a bra. For the same exact purpose as the modern woman wears a bra. And personally, I find it gross and disgusting how we've painted all women as these helpless little damselflies who hurt themselves constantly for male approval and just were never able to escape the cruel! swift! thumb of male oppression! when in reality corsets were made to fit you by people who knew what they were doing, and were worn under literally every dress, because y'know what? you're a woman and you've got boobs and that's just how the world works. tightlacing corsets has always been considered extreme and very inaccurate, and yet in every movie or tv show involving corsets there's always some poor actress who's getting tightlaced into one on bare skin. and that's another thing! you wore light clothes under your corset and stays!!! because that crap would hurt if it was constantly rubbing up on you!!! AND WOMEN WERE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS!!! a made to form corset would not hurt a woman, and was about as safe as a bra, and a necessary part of undergarments.

women were not harmed by corsets that were properly used and properly made to fit them, and weren't tightlaced and weren'tdying or unable to breathe or suffering severe organ damage. it's insanely idiotic and uneducated for anyone especially movie and tv shows and books and whatever else to imply that that's always been the case.

I once read a book called "shatter"(one of my favorites, by APrilynne Pike) where the main character legitimately uses tightlacing as a sort of self-harm, where she knows it's not good for her and is hurting her and she kind of uses the pain to numb her situation and take her mind off of her internal turmoil. Which is BAD! Corsets were not meant for this!!!!

Anyways.

My views on corsets can really be uncovered in the following videos(i recommend the top one if you just want a good chuckle about idiocracy):

Karolina Zebrowska: "curb your corset stereotypes"

Karolina Zebrowska: "How Victorian Men Taught Us To Hate Corsets: The Biggest Lie in Fashion History"

Karolina Zebrowska: "Rating(aka roasting) Historical Movie Corsets"

i could talk about this more, and discuss the problems with painting women from the past as helpless, weak, and generally incapable. *exhales heavily*

i have thoughts and feelings, as i said lol

[die-rosastrasse]

François Martin-Kavel & pink fabrics

French, 1861-1931

[simpforsix]

whoever said modern clothing is better was LYING. i put on my victorian menswear and i immediately feel amazing. nothing can touch me! i have four layers on and you have no idea what my body looks like! i'm the hottest motherfucker ever! sure t-shirts are cool but have you ever tried a vest that gives you a slutty little waist?

[frostedmagnolias]

Cape

Late 1890s

The John Bright Collection

[fashionsfromhistory]

Sailor's Slops

1600s-1700s

Extremely rare survival of a shirt and breeches, called slops, as worn by sailors from the late 16th through to the 18th centuries. This unique set of loose, practical sailor’s clothing reveals life aboard ship. They are made of very strong linen to endure the hard, rough work. There is tar across the front from hauling ropes. The breeches are heavily mended and patched, which the sailor would have done himself.

The Museum of London (ID: 53.101/1b)

[daguerreotyping]

Tintype of what appears to be a light-hearted spot of stabbing between friends, circa 1880

[woodlandkisses]

Headpieces by Thierry Mugler

[carigradmergen]

Just my fantasy for Marcille in medieval fashion, Im no expert so some details may appear historically incorrect sorry

[fashion-from-the-past]

Annika Caswell a student from the Wimbledon School of Art wardrobe department, dressed as Catherine Parr, next to her portrait attributed to Master John, c. 1545 in the National Portrait Gallery, London. * The students are recreating portraits dating from the Tudor period to the 19th century which have been inspiration for their lavish costumes . (Photo by Rebecca Naden - PA Images/PA Images via Getty Images)

[fleursscaptives]

"a modern flapper in an old fashioned gown" by arthur kales, 1923

[die-rosastrasse]

Ball gown, 1840-41

Maker: Unknown

From the collection of Wien Museum

[cottagecore-raccoon]

Disclaimer: I know that some folks continue to wear some or all of these items in the 21st century. This is more asking what you wish would become fashionable again so you could wear it without receiving any second glances from strangers

[frostedmagnolias]

Black Satin Brocade Bodice with Yellow Flowers and Green Velvet Bows

c.1890

made by American designer Miss Foley

brocaded silk satin, cotton net, and beads

Phoenix Art Museum

[fashionsfromhistory]

Day Dress

c.1855

England

This type of widely protruding skirt that appeared around the middle of the 19th century came to be known later under the name of the "crinoline style." As can be seen with this dress, large design motifs proved immensely effective on these voluminous skirts. The border pattern here is wood-block printed and repeats every 20.6 cm. Compared to small-scale designs, large patterns require a solid technique to avoid misalignment of the print colors. Considering that this mixed fabric of silk and wool is a material hard to print on, this dress with its bright and cheerful colors is a particularly fine example on how much cloth printing techniques had evolved.

The Kyoto Costume Institute

[yesterdaysprint]

The Decatur Daily Review, Illinois, May 17, 1936

Just jumping around from one party to another...

[memories-of-ancients]

One of the things that's been annoying more and more is modern media depictions of vikings where they basically dress in bland colored furs and leather and they look and act like Klingons.

Wish more movies and TV shows would have the gumption to use accurate costumes.

Also throughout all periods of history people wore colors!!! Even the puritans wore colors and only wore black on Sunday.