Idk what to tell to the people who still don't get that although is okay to teach kids the rules to live in a society (like respect others or don't kill or whatever), Kotaro Shimura, Enji Todoroki and Toga's parents didn't care as much for society rules as they care for the rules that made them feel okay at home.
Which in the end caused the main villain trio to reject authority and society and turn into violence, since they did try to use words as kids and were royally ignored.
Tenko, Touya and Toga tried very hard to be good kids, but in their parents conception it was not enough 'cause they couldn't repress some of their needs: they wanted their dads and moms to accept them as they were, to accept who they wanted to be, to accept the way they expressed love and accept the way they interacted with their surroundings.
In Tenko's case, Kotaro was unable to accept his kid desire to become a hero. His could be the worst case in bnha, given the violence of his tragedy and how misfortune (maybe even something else) played on it ending so badly. Tomura himself said that house rejected his very identity, even tho Hana tried to support him in secret and Nao stood up for him, little too late. For what we saw of him as a child, his only defect as a son was wanting to be a pro-hero, dream that got him beaten up for, grounded in a rather cruelly manner. Kotaro's trauma turned him into an irrational man, his hatred for heroes was both the build up and the catalysis of the tragedy that ended the lives of the people he loved the most.
Tenko didn't become a villain because he was an evil kid. He became a villain because AFO wanting it so and because Kotaro inculcated in him such extreme hatred.
In Touya's case, it's a bit more complicated. I don't believe Enji's obsession was completely evil in nature, although his actions were truly selfish and it became later abusive, when his desperation blinded him to the point he was unable to understand how bad he has turned out to be. Like in Tenko's case, the mother is at fault only in yhe sense that their lack of intervention allowed the situation to escalate 'til they couldn't prevent it anymore. Touya's case differentiates itself in the fact that he was older than Tenko, his behavior declining over the years into extreme violence, unlike the way Tenko exploded in murder glee when Kotaro hit him one last time.
The lack of proper attention from both Enji and Rei allowed Touya's behavior to become a tragedy. Their negligence, Enji's focus on his work and Shouto (as a project not a son) and Rei's role of a caretaker yet not a mother, combined with the incapacity of Natsuo and Fuyumi to understand what Touya was going through (really, only Shouto could, but at that point Touya hated him too much and Shouto was way too young)... Well, it didn't end well for a kid that didn't want help anymore but attention on his own terms. He was tired of adapting, the same way Tenko rebelled in his insistence of acting the hero way.
The same house rule ( YOU CANNOT BE A HERO ) sent them both to AFO's hands, one way or another. They were kids who couldn't act the way their dads wanted, so fuck them I guess.
That part is compatible to Toga's case. Kinda.
Toga's parents are by far the most twisted of the bunch, which is a lot to say considering that Kotaro hit his kids and Enji even hit his wife. Yet, without having to touch a single hair of their little girl, they inflicted damage so deep she preferred to become a runaway criminal than to stay at home one more day.
At least Kotaro and Enji valued at some level Tenko and Touya's existence. Toga's parents didn't care about her at all. She was as good as a broken doll, an imperfect piece of their furniture, something they wish wasn't related to them at all. Enji was at least worry about his son and he loved him at some degree, the same way Kotaro worry over Tenko was born out of his fear of losing his family. Nothing of it excuses what they do and let it be said that Enji and Kotaro did saw Touya and Tenko as monsters at some point (when Touya tried to kill Shouto and on his Dabi era, when Tenko killed his family and turned to Kotaro). Yet it doesn't compare to the way Toga's parents immediately erased her from their lives, even denying any affiliation. They sent her to that therapy like a car needing to be repaired. She was a sign of status, she was an object that they failed to produce, she was an aberration and a freak, she deserved to be put down.
From the three od them, Toga was the one who struggled the most to fit in socially, not to society standards tho. To her parents.
If all these parents had cared for their kids more than they cared for his own stupid rules maybe things would have been different. But that's the core of their problems, they don't need the whole world to accept them, they need to treat the internalized traumas their parents left them with, the self-hatred and the feeling of inadequacy and the need for acceptance (of themselves) and recognition.
That's why Toga, Izuku and Shouto are the key for their recovery. Acting as mirrors, they are meant to provide the closure the villain trio desperately need. It's not just a sibling or a nemesis bond, but a recognition of the self through the other situation.
If they can accept themselves and correct their ways and get free from their parents absurd rules, if they can move past the child need for their parents validation, maybe they can finally exist in a less painful way.
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CONTENT CREATOR YEAR IN REVIEW
was thinking for 84 hours where should i post it but as its my creator blog i m doing it here <3 i was tagged by @taemaknae @suhdays @ynki @honsool @jjeongukie @taeyungie @dearbangtansonyeondan @lifegoesmon @everythingoes @flipthatjacketjiminie @yoongi-bts @jiminslight @hopekidoki @cowboyjinbop @yoonqiful @jcngkooks @pjmsdior @hobeah @balenciaguks @jinvant @hobibestboy @vjimin @yoongikook AND THANK U SO MUCH FOR INCLUDING ME T_T ik maybe its not a big deal but its a big deal to me and im touched :(((((((((((( also gimme some time to check all ur posts 👉👈 also im in a mood to say that ive collected many pokemons here djfksfhsakjddld ok nvm
also sorry for a long post ik tmblr fvcks things up sometimes when there is keep reading so dont fight me plz <3
❀ first creation and most recent creation of 2020
ok this is the fist one (still very pleased with colouring here T_T the stage lighting was,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, well yeah as always lmao) and this is the most recent (TBH DKJSKDSDK I WISH MY MOST RECENT POST COULD BE A DIFFERENT ONE THE ONE I WANNA MAKE FOR A MONTH NOW THE ONE ID PUT A LOT MORE EFFORTS IN SO IM A LIL FRUSTRATED i literally just missed giffing but couldnt watch anything new so took an old vid i wanted to gif once I DIDNT EVEN USE MYCOLOURING PSD IT LITERALLY HAS ONLY COUPLE OF LAYERS uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :( but whatever,,, it just kinda doesnt show the difference -_-)
❀ a creation u r really proud of
well 👁👄👁 there r quite few,,, and the main reason is colouring most of these r comps and i a b s o l u t e l y sucked at comps and esp at making the colouring consistent there lol so lets begin lol 1 (u have no idea how muchi love this set) 2 (i fucking mastered it i wanted to remake it for two years and i finally did!! 60 fps smooth good moments iconic performance iconic hair colour his attitude bruh and ofc the fact that i could do sth with colouring,,,,,, and chose such an unusual colour scheme that i doubted jckdckfdk and it still worked out 🥺) 3 (lol i had this idea written down since 2018 as well and this year i could finally collect all moments i needed and oh boi yeah,,, AND COLOURING I COULD ALMOST yeah almost do sth decent with it there r still couple moments id changed but im pleased) 4 (im so happy whenevr i see this CUZ IT ALL WORKED OUT it was such an impulsive comp i literally only saw couple moments for past few years as well where i could see three of them in one frame and suddenly I WAS LIKE I FUCKING MUST POST THOSE MOMENTS SOMEHOW and im so proud of colouring it looks so well T_T) 5 (the colouring ofc im still :o that i could get rid of that shitty shit dkksjkj AND THE MOMENTS ITSELF?????? AND BLACK SWAN???????? EVERY PERFORMANCE???? HAIR?????? OUTFIT???????? EVRERYHTIGNM???????? HIS FUCKING STARE? FACE??? DONT MAKE ME CONTINUE AAAAAAAAAAA also if im not wrong this set in particular made me start my before/after posts 🥺) 6 (i jujst love everything about it e v e r yt h i n g also i could made ppl believe that jin fr has purple hair here when in reality its brown djhfdhskdf one of blending modes or adjustment layers worked this way lol) 7 (i wont even comment this tried a great tutorial with great beautiful resuls for the first time ever and it worked out so well and i like it so much and the whole yoongi here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also love me some borders that add cinematic feels to some gifs or just make them pretty in a dif way just like i did with prev post i mentioned imo lol) OK LAST ONE 8 (I USED A VIDEO OF STARS AND ADDED IT TO THE GIF FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER I FUCKED WITHMASKING FOR 3 HOURS GRRRRRRRR THIS IS SO HUGE FOR ME!!!!! i cant even explain whew IVE NEVER DID ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE SO I WAS REALLY PROUD TOO even tho i fucked masking up on some layers lmao but lets not pay too much attention to it 👀)
❀ a creation that took u forever
ohhhhhhhh i think this one cuz the moments were long i couldnt decide what do i want to include + it ts file so u kno,,, the speed,,, of processing,, + somehow decided to put them all together + fucked with colouring + had to get rid of the logo and as we know japan likes a lot of big braight text around haha and draw hair in moments where logo made it look blurry + had to adjust the order and all that stuff but getting rid of logo was the longest part
❀ a creation from 2020 that received the most notes
whew this iconic one im still amazed tbh they looked soso incredible and im glad how everything turned out here <3 (could change some colouring on bg tho so it could look better and more hq :c)
❀ a creation u think deserved more notes
lol this one cuz i was so hyped to make it cuz their concert in saudi arabia is one of my fav things in the world and i waited for so long to have mood and energy to go throught it to find jk moments and i couldnt choose some for this comp for so long and just,,,,,, overall,,,, the way he looks here............................................................... its a special comp to me haha ill def gif more of it i have shit ton of clips left and also there r other members and i just want to sit and enjoy yhe whole thing to so may find more stuff to gif here lol
❀ a new fandom u joined an a creation u made for it
i didnt join anything heurheru
❀ a creation u made that breaks ur heart
OKAY LISTEN DSJAKDJHFDKJ THIS ONE IF U KNOW U KNOW AND IM SURE IT BREAKS ALMOST EVERY HEART tbh whenever i see soft smiles or soft interactions or anything like this im just :’( <3 even my serotonin boost tag does it to me cuz its too precious T_T
❀ a ‘simple’ creation that u really love
this one cuz everything about it ah and this one 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
❀ a creation that was inspired by someone else
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm idk maybe this one ? cuz i never did anything like this before and maybe i saw someones beautiful headers and decided to try one too ? i could do a lot better there is not enough depth but oh well,,, lol
❀ a favourite creatin created by someone else
oh its gonna be hard :) dear every conten creator i hope u dont mind if i wont go though the whole 2020 gif tag but choose form the most recent ones i loved? u know how much i appreciate ur content cuz i never stop screaming about it in tags but truly there r more content makers and i want u to know that i really love ur content :(
@syubb welllllllllllll i wont even comment this is iconique.....
@jinv T_T val i miss u but there should be bday comps with that BIG ASS IMAGE THAT HAS ITS PARTS ON EVERY SINGLE GIF I CANT EVEN EXPLAIN that icant even find dfjksfskj
@jung-koook i literally couldnt choose ehdskjdjksd but i decided this one cuz its sososososososososososososososososososososo well made every single detail here is chefs kiss
@kkulmoon i truly really cant get enough of ur colouring lately T_T
@minhope !!!!!!LITERALLY EVERY PANTONE COMP OR ESPECIALLY 7 YEARS WITH BTS PANTONE ONE IM AAAAAAAAAAAAA and lmao i think this is one of the most reposted things ive ever seen on internet T_T
@jjoon hng amy u know how i feel about ur content T_T decided this one cuz f l a w l e s s
@hopekidoki stuff like this makes my jaw lie in the floor dsjkdj
@flipthatjacketjiminie idk whats up but it makes me scream like a madman every time i see it.........
@lifegoesmon i cant even explain why i chose this one but everything here is so incredible !!!!!!!!1
@hobeah one of those good fucking bye ones.....
@taeyungie this made me feel so many things and a whole ass a w e so cool T_T
@jiminfilter i will never shut up about bts core jungkook one should also be here
@seoksjin THE COLOURS I SCREAM OH MY GOD O HMY OGD I JUST WENT TO CHECK OUT AND SAW THIS AND IMMEDIATELY DJKSJD DECIDED THIS IS CRAZY THE PASTELS THE PINNKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EVERYHTGIN but also those birthday posts ahhh T_T
@jinvant i wanna YELL but also u know how much i love ur quality and blacks T_T and gfxs too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@yoongi-bts i love everything here with my whole heart!!!
@everythingoes SHOUWLD I EVEN EXPLAIN WHY
@hobibestboy THIS IS SO COOL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE COLOUR SCHEME
@joenns I WONT EVEN EXPLAIN IM SO HURT HES SO THIS IS SO T____________________T
@jjeongukie idk i cant get enough of skin tone!!!!!!!!!!!!
@chaylani i really love the colouring and love these posts with highlights T_T
@eklipxe COLOURING AND EVERYTHIGN
@oncupid cant get enough of every colouring ive seen <3
@jiminslight THIS WHOLE GIF RIGHT HERE
@6dis-ease COZY AND PRECIOUS T_T
@ofkimtaehyung I LITERALLY HAVE NO WORDS ITS SO PRETTY
@taee it was really hard to choose too T_T decided to go with this cuz,, u kno
@yoonqiful CUZ THESE COLOURS DRIVE ME INSANE
OK THIS IS GETTING TOO LONG KDSFJSAKDL I WOULD ADD A LOT MORE CUZ THERE IS A LOT MORE TO ADD BUT IVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THREE HOURS I BETTER CHILL
❀ some of your favourite content creators from this year
ok i may forgot someone + in no order in particular + literally every creator that i follow/whose content i reblog @taeguks @tearuntold @cyphertaehyungie @love4hobi @kimnamtaejin @taejoon @jimiyoong @namkook @taeyungie @jinvant @jinv @6dis-ease @jiminrolls @daechwitas @syubb @syuga @jjeongukie @cowboyjinbop @hope-film @minhope @hopekidoki @joonie @namgination @jung-koook @faerieth @kooksv @lifegoesyoon @yoonqiful @j-sope @chaylani @jiminfilter @jjoon @everythingoes @varietae @seoksjin @dearbangtansonyeondan @ofkimtaehyung @yoongi-bts @gaypeople @seokjinyoongis @agustdfeatrm @joenns @houseofarmanto @namjoon (will miss forever) @thebtsgenre @honsool @vjimin @seokjinite @jiminswn @taee @hobeah @lifegoesmon @taemaknae @gukgi @kkulmoon @flipthatjacketjiminie @jintae @jcngkooks @ynki @yoongikook @yoongiandthebiaswreckers @jiminslight @gwkie @oncupid @eternalbulletproof and many more <3
OK SO i wanna say a special thanks to every content creator ever and also i wanna say that im really glad to be a part of this community all of u r so cool and creative and make such beautiful things and many of u made me feel EMOTIONS with ur sets or not only sets ill be forever grateful that i discovered bts and for everything they do to me without even knowing ALSO THANK U FOR STILL BEING HERE ON TUMBRLDSDFKJ yeah this year was less active there were few issues many ppl went on twt but thank u for still being here also happy new year <3333333 i think i sounded deeper and more emotional when i was commenting ppls gifs :| but its almost 2 am so i hope u will understand dkfjkfsjk im happy there is this corner on the internet that feels cozy and so welcoming <3 i love u i wish u a better year ahead <3 ok for checking notifications purpose ill tag my blog lol @eternal-bangtan
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Oh boy.... where... WHERE... do i begin with this... i had to think about this for a LONG time... cause i know if i talk about this and try and give Aidan more attention... then my friend and great artist, Raisha gs will be upset with me... and.... will probably block me.... leaving me here to grieve again for the mistakes i did...... so if Raisha some how knows that i have a twitter acc... first off... hi dude... second off dont block me... yhe worst you can do is block someone for trying to get something out of they're situation so they can feel better... im not saying that your a bad person... im not saying that that your trying to control my life... all im saying is that.. please... understand that i need to do this... if people are doing this against people like Lui or Mini Ladd or even Shane Dawson... then i should do the same for a guy who has did this... dont worry... i blocked him on twitter.... so dont worry about him trying to find out about what im talking about... ok...? I hope you understand...
so for starters if you dont know who i am, i am the Dimensionmaker. Someone who wants to make animations for yt, who wants to make his own games, want do lets plays, and even talk to you viewers... i have a rough life... filled with nothing but people lying to me, people cheating on me without a reason (the numbers of people who did that is now 61 in total...), people lying ABOUT me, nothing but fear, and many more... Jaiden or Kitty Courtnie And Linka, is... the first gf i ever had. She was... the worst as well. She never listened, didnt care, and then cheated... then we have... Aidan2003, who is the main topic of this...
We start from what caused all of this to happen... when i was in middle school still i was on roblox... i had great friends... one of them named herself Jaidenanimations (not the real one...) also known as Courtnie... she was the nicest.. at the time she had a bf named Dud.. (btw Dud is Older then both me AND courtnie.. he acted like a complete creep around her..) but fsr.. Dud broke up with her.... someone named Ethan dated her too... but then broke up with her... and who knows if he is older then courtnie at the time... she was now sad... so i decided to become her bf... and when i did... we were... THE BEST... we loved each other more then anything... she would without me asking, want to do a drp with me... she wanted to come to my house... she wanted to meet me irl... she was better then anyone...things got a bit worst... Jaiden was now enemies with everyone... (Ethan, Dud, Jonathan, etc...) she doesnt want them to follow her... so i decied to be a bit strict.. and tell her to NOT go to any of the roblox games till she blocks them... and she lies to me... saying that... "She wasnt able to block them as a crack was CONVENIENTLY on the block and unfriend button..." and when ever we have a plan or another idea on what can actually work... she lied her way saying thaings like oh.. "My Phone Is Dead" and such.. so much in fake that it was... PREDICTABLE... she then started to hang out with them... i became a bit more stricter... then my mental health became bad... she didnt listen... it made me feel like nobody listens to me... leading me into a depression... i felt like nobody liked me... nobody listens to me... nobody even cared about me... i wanted to die... a... bunch of times... most of the time... she never cared... then... on yt......... she cheated on me... with 2 people who were OLDER THEN ME AND HER COMBINED (being both Jonathan and Dud... keep that in mind...)... i noticed this.... i was FURIOUS..... i yelled at the thing i thought was a girl i Loved... a girl i could trust... a Girl that i thought was LOYAL..... then her parents got involved calling me rude words like European Boy (i think it was something else) "just because my skin was black".. keep that in mind as well... "her parents deleted her discord acc For Good..." (keep thaf in mind...)... then... i sobbed... again... and again... i tried to go and find people who cares about me or loved me... but then they cheated... one by one... my mental health became WORST.... i tried many methods... me having more then one girlfriend... having them make promises due to what has happen to me... being nice... being strict..... nothing worked.......... my life was miserable...... i didnt finally be able to talk to courtnie and get her to break up with Jonathan... she was happy that she did... but then she didnt come back to roblox... but then betrayed me yet again........
I asked one of my friends on if they are able to talk to Courtnie...they couldn't... all except for one person one of them know... Aidan... i talked to Aidan and he actually was nice... but then... he started to act like im a pedo... wanna know why...? Get this... JAIDEN LIED ABOUT HER AGE THE WHOLE TIME. when i was 13 she was 10 ALL ALONG. She lied to me for YEARS... saying she was my age.... i blocked Aidan and never talked to him ever again... and jaiden finally talks to me and we were in good terms... but then... Aidan came in.... saying jaiden has caused alot of crap to him... i believed him and became his friend only to be forced into a group where this friends (ETHAN AND IVAN BEING ONE OF THEM) could harass me... then... we go to his videos... his videos are false... they barely show proof... he says points that are completely incorrect.... hell here is some (not all cause i dont want to be texting all night) he said in them...
- "I Know Where You Live And I Know Everything About You"
He says this yet he assumed i was a 25 year old man. Even tho im now 15. At the time i was 14 now im 15. Plus he doxxedy house. And stole my IP ADDRESS... that right there makes him seem more like a creep. Courtnie without me asking told me where she lived. This guy STOLE MY IP ADDRESS AND FUCKING DOXXED MY HOUSE. That right there will show that he is a bad person who is just lying to ruin my life... speaking of lying
- "Schroederluvr Is A Minor"
This proves that he didnt even talk to her... she isnt a minor... hell looking at her compared to me... she is OLDER THEN ME.. SHE IS 20 SOMETHING YEARS OLD. I Didnt Harass Her Anyways so why is he saying that i did.
- "Lillie is innocent"
Lillie on Instagram literally said in her own words that she is bullying me because of me being depressed. Thats jot justified AT ALL.
"Klara's post is about me"
No its not. Its about lillie and her friends. Who BTW IS DMING ME SENDING A PICTURE OF SOME STUPID PICTURE OF A INCINEROAR. sure yes it doesnt seem to bad but its EXTREMELY ANNOYING.
- "Telling the police that Aidan doxxed my house and Stole my IP Address wont do anything"
It will, Aidan. It literally says that no matter how you got it or why you got it, you will be send to jail.
- "TALKING to minors is bad"
Wrong. If thats the case then someone like WILDCAT, VANOSS, H2ODELIRIOUS, MARKIPLIER, CORYXKENSHIN, AND MANY MANY MORE would be swatted and in jail. Its not Illegal to talk to them.
- "that Katie is innocent"
Katie has done a MOUNTAIN of stuff to me. So much so that even the nicest people of all time wont be nice to her. She isnt in the right. AT. ALL.
- "that telling people to leave me alone is harassing them"
Its not harassment. Seriously. A NORMAL HUMAN BEING WOULD KNOW THAT IST NOR HARASSMENT TO TELL SOMEONE TO GO AWAY OR LEAVE THEM ALONE
- "That im a predator yet youw ont go after Jonathan and Dud"
He literally spares them but not me. Jonathan was 17 i think. And Dud was i think 19. Now he's probably 20 OR 21 YEARS OLD. And you STILL come at me for just DATING someone who LIED ABOUT HER AGE.
- "that i was... Harassing? xxlitle_dummyxx"
Even tho she literally wants to be rude while im trying to help... wow... just fucking WOW
- "that not telling people your name, nor putting your name on your acc is a bad thing"
No.. no its not... hell we look at a bunch of youtubers doing that. Hell there are a bunch of people i KNOW that doesnt say they're real name. It's THEY'RE CHOICE. Not yours Aidan.
Anyways.... then to make things worst he called me the N word a bunch of times then say that he "didnt" because i didnt have proof... wanna know why? BECAUSE HE BLOCKED ME AFTER THAT SO I WASNT ABLE TO TAKE A VIDEO OF THIS. Then he made a fake conversation between me and jaiden. I can tell its fake by just looking at the pfps and names...
I decided to delete all the posts about him on Instagram... not because he beated me... but because i wanted Raisha gs to be happy... to not hate me...... to not block me... thats something that Effects me when it comes to someone like Raisha or Brsstar... i worry that if i make one mistake for what ever reason... ill be blocked... so im hoping that Raisha understands that i cant hold all of this in anymore... if Aidan are exposing me for shit i didn't do... if PEOPLE are coming out to finally say the truth about someone... then i should as well.... i hope you understand if you made it this far...
So... here's what i have to say for the conclusion of this... if you all see the name... "Aidan2003"... block him... REPORT HIM... do what ever you like to him.... he wants to hurt me for shit i didnt do... so why should i say to not do the same to him... he is not a good person... he never was....
This is The Creator Of Multiverses... and i will soon make other posts, dont worry ^^.
Till then my fell Universers..
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also think tank
a white lecturer using the n-word when quoting literature in a lecture?
I think she used it once outside of quotation as well
certainly not meant in a disrespectful way, just seems unnecessary
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better have a justification at least but if you just use it out of the blue it always seems like some attempt at provocation
'i can say this because my interests are purely academic'
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mmmmm
we're reading uncle tom's cabin, so it's hard to avoid
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should only be quoted verbatim if absolutely necessary, if there's no alternative
I think
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yeah seems like she could have avoided it pretty easily
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if she's making no acknowledgement of the word's relationship to her privilege, that's rly not good
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yeah she's older so there might just be an outdated perspective there
'I'm just quoting the text, it was anti-slavery so I'm fine' sort of mentality maybe?
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still
she would know about the contemporary attitude to the word
and she should at least mention that! ugh
like it doesn't sound malicious or super super racist, but eh
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Yeah I feel iffffy about it
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should mention it!
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Trying to work out if I should send email
and if so how to word it
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mm
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be interesting to actually properly discuss it
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yep
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heck I’d be interested to know more of a history of the word
basically teach properly why its offensive
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Yeah, I might bring it up in the tutorial
different teacher, but maybe good discussion
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mm that seems appropriate
i'd love to hear how that goes
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uhhh there was someone who used it at Bar Oussou 
the host reallllly should’ve said something
and I normally would but just too tired for confrontation
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Sounded very cringe
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v unfortunate
most disappointed in yhe host tbh
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he maybe had a old-worldy attitude to it and didn't mind
or was too cowardly lol
which do u think?
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I think he thought it was in the context of the poem
she didn’t use it to degrade someone directly, but the word itself is degrading
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ugh but the poem is in the context of fuckin oussou
yep
ppl need to have a think before using words
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I just think its great to have a stage to do emotional work, but it can cross a line into normalising shitty white behaviour
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mm
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I went to a coloured school so I can’t b racist wah wah wah
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and you have to consider your audience
if your rant is dehumanising or brushes aside/causes suffering u gotta reconsider
felt pretty ashamed on behalf of bartender/various black audience members
not saying that dumb white shit would be acceptable with a different audience, but her obliviousness was kinda astounding
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wow yeah cringefest
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lol spoken word scene as a whole can b so lame haha rings true to why I/we left
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mm
so macho!
that's what I liked about talkbox
some sensitivity there, gentleness
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still, I just wish people read more lok
*lol
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yep
I wish I read more
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like the stylistic range is generally pretty lame
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I guess that's why anyone reads
mmm
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I wish I read more too
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hahahaha
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:')
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don’t mean to shit on everyon, I just think the scene as a whole and the conception of poetry is lacklustre - it doesn’t seem like the time for poetry, sometimes
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ppl too distracted by netflix uwu sounds like phones but too much
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doesn't seem like the time for art, sometimes!
hahhh
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its definitely a time for music
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I think there's a place for poetry
It's just raps and memes
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yeh but
I play dat long game
there might not b a place now but I’mma fkn make one
whether you like it or not lol
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Oh yeah fair
go 4 it
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loll
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I just mean that I think 'poetry' has evolved into other forms, and now the traditional form is struggling to find a place
I mean does anyone pay attention to Victorian satirical cartoons? I don’t
I think it’s also tho that the low brow is more apparent in the moment, the high brow more apparent from a distance
the shit sinks, basically
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elaborate?
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time brings forward higher brow material while a lot of lower brow stuff falls back
or like
there’s an art for getting through your days, and there’s an art for elaborate long form spiritual liberation
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so u don't mind about a lack of audience now if your work has staying power?
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different works have different digestion time
and yes
that is what I’m saying
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hmmmmmmm
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hmmmmmmmm?
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personally I don't know whether I'm prioritising the reception of my work or its value to me right now
i feel poetry/art in general are useful tools for thinking about the world
useful philosophical tools i guess
and idk whether i'm learning for the sake of my own knowledge/making 'better' art or learning so what I put out into the world is better received
I suppose the two aren't mutually exclusive
but yeah - feeling fairly indifferent to the idea of creating work that will persist right now
part of me feels more comfortable with being lost forever lol
or at least that I should become comfortable with that, bc that is what will happen inevitably
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I just think in this atmosphere of complete denial of the arts as an important component of society, as well as the stigmatisation of ritual and other mystical practices that used to house what we now might describe as an artist, its important that we follow our intuition rather than give in to a system that routinely prevents us having access to basic resources
like I want to be there for whoever is there when this period comes to end and those peoples are looking for anything to rudder them, whether or not I’m alive
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you want to add to the cultural record?
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I want provide a map for future generations
is how I would put it
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mm
how do you feel one can ensure the persistence of their own work? or are you just hoping it'll be around for others
I suppose whether or not anything lasts is out of ur control past a certain point
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for one I make an effort to give away a lot of work
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I also store it all and make sure that that stockpile is kept w care
but I also think there’s something to be said that I try and operate within many pre-existing canons
I also it’s important to use the more meme-y, short stay work to bring attention to the slower works
yeah, re: canons, like tanka and before that wakka as poetic forms stem back as far as a thousand years - perhaps more
by putting myself in conversation with the ancients... idk it feels a bit like entering a cultural refrigerator haha
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mm
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sometimes I find it better to see my individual works as modules that make up a whole more prescient than its parts (Morton lolz)
soo... maybe my work won’t carry the same weight until I finish, so to speak
who knowsss but this how I think about it lol
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best to try and contribute something I spose
rather than do nothing w ur resources
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I’m weird with this shit
u don’t have to be
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mm it seems fairly simple to me and not that weird
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not everyone should spend their life tending their gravestone
it’s a job for a particular type of person, and I am it
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but in a sense everyone does anyway
everyone does things with the future in mind or without it in mind I suppose
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and i guess that influences what you leave when you die eheh, whether you do it consciously or unconsciously
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I just am particularly stubborn that I have something to offer - I think its partially a result of being denied that a lot in school, I found other ways to have social bonds that were more... non linear
bonds with past peoples, and inadvertently bonds with future people
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mm
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I find it frustrating that its seen as arrogant to suggest your work should be read after you die - if anything its remarkably humble as I'm acknowledging that I will never properly see the fruits of my labour
it's a ridiculously isolating position to find oneself in, where your best friends - books, music, content - have no form of human intimacy with you and completely defy all survivalistic, lizard-brain humanity
plus you're just on a total different dimension from most people you meet
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mm you're in a very specific position here
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lol goodluck catching up ☼☼☼☼☼
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unrelated btw
(☼☼☼☼☼ posts a meme in chat)
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see y'all @ da rally (in reference to the meme)
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where and when is this?
oh oops
thought you meant a real one
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hahaha
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xD
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structurally is the meme ok ?
took the photo the other day, and just added the text.
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yes are u going to weigh in on the conversation tho lol
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nah not really
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meme fine
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I have so little to add
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well hm
why make memes?
why not write novel?
do memes have staying power?
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it's a question of what timescale is important to you at any given time maybe
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oh absolutely - not trying to infer a hierarchy here, I just think there are different approaches for different problems
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sometimes I'll say something to someone so they'll remember it for tomorrow, sometimes I'll say something to someone and hope they'll remember forever lol
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I don't think I care about staying power that much
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memes have such a short lifetime, they're like cultural mayflies haha
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Yeah defs
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why tho lol
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Because the art itself can date while still inspiring change
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yeah so using it pragmatically like a single use tissue
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If you create something short lived, it (with the help of other artists producing similar work) is able to push art and society in a specific direction
The butterfly effect I guess
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it's true that you have more effect in the current conversation
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mm
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but that conversation draws intensively on a language formed by the ancients
so the two are dependent on each other, a back and forth
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and that's dependent on their work's longevity?
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not following ur question
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not following your point haha
hmm
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so you're suggesting a works longevity is crucial in that it helps reinforce and update the ancient language in which short term work of the future will be influenced by?
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mm
also - what if of all the work you make, it's only a meme that survives the passage of time?
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basically... like you're just reiterating points that have been made more in depth in 'higher' brow culture - that's definitely how I feel when writing raps
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like Roman graffiti surviving on the walls or whatever
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did you a hear copy of the I Ching, the Chinese numerology classic more than a thousand years old, was found in the 70s and had a heap more sections and a different order?
effectively completely changing the understanding of the I Ching
gotta get those nice lead storage chambers ayyyyy ahahaha
it was found buried in a coffin, obvs haha
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mm
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a lot of Chinese philosophers only exist in so much as someone else described them
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But what does that changing of contexts of that piece actually mean for us?
Is updated Ching from the coffin helping us in any way?
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I think for me finding the I Ching and looking over it is like a person in a thousand years finding a functional iPhone
it gives great insight into human impulses regardless of time
and offers a way of writing the past a new, which in turn presents a new future
(thinking of the cowboy article you sent me)
reconceptualizing the past IS the future
look at 'Make America Great Again' or calls to restore the caliphate
both are founded on histories that have more to do with our current state than the actual happenings of the past
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I do see where you're coming from
I like the idea that it's important to preserve our work for understand the past better
And I hope that someone in the future will have a clearer understanding of our time through your well preserved works
But what fucking future
is it
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haha but like
looking back
we see people been asking that for a veeery long time
I get it seems on a new scale
but we're on a new scale too
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It does seem that yes
Also if we do survive and keep on teching on
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I'm for an integration of the human/natural binary where we properly acknowledge our mutual codependency, the earth and humanity that is
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Are we even going to be translatable? Is the functioning iPhone found by the future person going to even be able to be translated?
Or will it be meaningless because everyone is already part of the grid
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where artificially effecting the climate for the benefit of 'nature' isn't seen as strange but completely akin to Aboriginal burn back practices
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i guess it's productive to hope that it will be translatable
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we've always interfered in the running of nature
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mm
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ehhh idk we translated fucking hieroglyphics
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Or future tech can look into the past and someone is watching our lives as we type this now, constantly being understood through our context in a way we can't comprehend through our recording processes
shrugs
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I mean yeah, imagine if the internet was even vaguely archived
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You probably have a better understanding of how the future will pan out than I do tho
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even if 0.1 % was kept, it would be a massive resource
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No sass intended there, I'm sincere
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lol idk I just try to see a bigger picture and it keeps me calm
remember me old saying?
we survived the plague
and nukes
lol
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I just don't see the issue with creating short term work, especially if it is preserved
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oh neither do I
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Like a meme may have more impact than a novel rn
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well it could be argued that we're yet to survive nukes but I see your point
impact on various timescales
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I've heard the plague make be thinking of making a comeback too haha
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mm
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oh duh peasantry is fully hip rn
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but like
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bring back the boils, they look great with my Balenciaga sneakers
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lol bubonic chic
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Pretty close to heroin chic tbh haha
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not jking that was tb
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but like, I don't find a huge amount of solace in the fact that we survived the plague
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"The Victorians romanticized the disease and the effects it caused in the gradual build to death. For decades, many beauty standards emulated or highlighted these effects. And as scientists gained greater understanding of the disease and how it was spread, the disease continued to keep its hold on fashion.
and the severity of the corsets was known to harm the lungs in such a way that would increase the likelihood of transmission LOOOL
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mm Balenciaga look out
idk it's a question of what capacity we survive in
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lollllll
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quite depressing to think about
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eating disorders have a pretense
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what if ecocide leaves a few insular eco fascist regimes who gradually diminish over centuries
always engaged in pointless wars of attrition with one another lol
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I mean you could probably say the same thing of colonial regimes now
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just because we can survive, doesn't mean my outlook should b at all rosy :((
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point is its a big ol' world that has plenty of room for pain AND love
any future pain you think is imminent probably already is happening, and nonetheless breakfast tasted good this morning
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'The hipster middle class would dress with raggedy beards and large jackets and refuse to use deodorant, perhaps to reflect the look of people suffering from homelessness at the time. It is suspected that this made them less likely to be hired, and therefore more likely to become homeless themselves.'

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ahahaha
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mm that's true hahhh
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Planning on making this into a full essay. Might not be popular now, but I think it has staying power?
Soz for shitposting haha
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I was talking with ☲☲☲☲☲ a while back, and something struck me - she said, "I never thought this age would have its own fleet of particular medical conditions."
(or something like that lol, translated via my nerd brain)
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Yeah that didn't quite sound like her
But that sentiment is great
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'fleet'
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In that ofc there is, but also wow yeah ofc!
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mmm
hahh these conversations should be recorded
so we can all think about em without scrolling up endlessly
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I do like the idea of people reading these works in the future tho
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and also so that they can be preserved for 10,000+ years of course
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In the same way we read the letters sent between dead artists now
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mm
very true
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mmm
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messenger is not a particularly stable storage medium
and also is more vulnerable to third party scrutiny
although the fact we're reading artists letters now means that medium is also pretty fucking vulnerable to scrutiny lol
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I fucking found the word! (sorry was searching for it so hard)
Neurasthenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurasthenia
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Americanitis lol
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uhh the page doesn't rly talk about this, but its like a condition of over-working effectively, and people would try and get prescribed the pills to treat it as a way of signalling they were a dedicated worker
its total hokey
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wow
yeah you mentioned this a while back
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oh I've heard a similar thing
in Japan
were workers will pretend to fall asleep at their desks to show how hard they're working
No idea the trust behind it tho
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to this day, "In Japan, shinkei-suijaku is treated with Morita therapy involving mandatory rest and isolation, followed by progressively more difficult work, and a resumption of a previous social role. The diagnosis is sometimes used as a disguise for serious mental illnesses such as schizophrenia and mood disorders."
a dignified mental illness uwu
none of that lower class shit
I'm a classy fuck with money, I don't get the same mental conditions as the poor lolol
reminds me of now: I don't have shitty parents, I just have adhd
(not to deligitimise all uses of adhd, just over diagnosed)
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mmmmm i feel u yes
this has been a wild ride
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yes I’m leaving to get late lunch
uwu have a good day in this cosmic spider web lololol
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:')
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Like the burning of this charcoal fire, our years too will soon expire Kobayashi Issa
listening to Krista Tippet talk with Maria Popova, this particular phrase resonated with our conversation: we live in a world where disruption over-fetishised; we need cultural stewardship to help along new waves of disruption
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How would u define cultural stewardship in a practical sense?
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caring for the legacy of those past as a means of refreshing their insight for a new age
a very straightforward example would b the importance of new translations, in this regard - as our understanding and depth of connection to Japanese society has deepened, so too have our translations
dusting off the books so to speak
in some sense I see that in our music too
or reappropriating to a new context
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Well remasters are a time terry literal example
Fuck
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time terry
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Pretty* not time terry lol
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lime berry
yeah exactly
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Slime Jerry
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I mean rereleasing is an obvs example mhm
but more abstract examples are how I’ve exported into both your brains Bridle/Steyerl/Haraway via conversation and art lolol
I’m helping it move from one place to another
same w Zappa lol
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also - looking after artist friends
being generous
I feel these are acts of pre-emptive cultural stewardship
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haha yeah definitely different time scales it could function on
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looking after and maintain communities
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hosting open mics lol
helping teach ppl poetry
lollll
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not allowing hate speech to creep into open mics lol
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Truuuuu
Or anywhere for that matter
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not becoming so dusty that you actually have a detrimental impact on cultural progression
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I think religions only exist in so far as they have active practitioners
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mm
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Tru
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I think my sense is, in religion, this same argument plays out with orthodoxy versus mysticism
Maintenance of buildings is in there too for religion
People being assigned paid positions as the keepers and givers of religious knowledge
oh yeah thinking a lot here of Shanzai, ☐☐☐☐☐, and the idea of an object as a lived practice
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when home I'm gonna do my best to archive this conversation
mmm
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you’re going to steward our conversation bout stewardship
...
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this is all going in
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...the tv where I am says “The comedian getting behind ‘Know Thy Nuts’” and there are big walnuts on the screen
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???????
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“I didn’t realise chemotherapy would be such great comedic material!”
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Huhhhh
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lol
highly recommend
https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000429408054https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000429408054
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