WHICH ONE OF YOU WAS IT THAT - I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF MY MUTUALS - WE HAD A REALLY LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW SEVEN ALWAYS WENT STRAIGHT FOR THE KILL IN THE PAST, AND WE GOT ON THE TOPIC OF THE GIRL IN WHITE AND YOU SAID THAT YOU THOUGHT SHE DIDN'T MEAN FOR SEVEN TO DIE BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE HEART NOTICBLY MORE THROUGH HIS CHEST/STOMACH AND I SAID I WASN'T SURE IF WE COULD REALLY GO OFF OF THAT BECAUSE WE HADN'T KNOWN MUCH OF HER CHARACTER NOR WHY SHE DID IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND REDISCUSS THIS BECAUSE SEASON FOUR SPOILER THING UNDER CUT
I WENT FUCKING FERAL WHEN THIS WAS SAID because like obviously the question is when the hell did that poison get put in him because I feel like , Seven wouldn't have taken it himself? Like he wanted to move on and he was willing to fight all of Xuanwu for the girl in white but I think he would've known he had to do that face on and that poison would only, inevitably, put them in more danger?
And I can't think of another shadow killer or the leader that would want this- EVERYONE wanted him dead, Green Phoenix presumably didn't care because evidently the shadow killers DIDN'T go after him last time or were afraid to, otherwise he would've used his plan earlier, the leader NEVER gets off his ass, and there would've been no point erasing his memories if he was wanted dead.
I feel like the logical conclusion here - at least I'm assuming between the moment he was stabbed and washed up nobody else saw him, and prior to the fight he hadn't seen anybody else who'd have done this nor discussed it - is that the girl in white had it on her blade, right? Like wasn't she also wanted dead? Seven was protecting her and that's the whole reason he was wanted dead, so killing him would've gotten her killed too and I feel like this shit is waaay too much to pull a sort of long-con to get him killed, but even if she WAS supposed to kill him as some sort of long hidden plan, maybe she might've loved him anyway and CHOSE this form of mercy? Because erasing his memories would effectively 'kill' him? Or was it that they both wanted this to end so badly but she chose the impulsive way out, getting herself killed and a merciful, forgetful end for Seven that had a fighting chance of letting him live on without her?
But also the symbolism when they show it confuses me.
So this eye was a new thing in season four and it ONLY ever really is shown around the leader of the shadow killers, when he's on his being-an-eldritch-horror shit, but my thing is WHAT purpose would he have to do that to Seven? Like yeah, he ordered him dead, but HOW would he even get that done and what reason would he have? Like, it was kind of presumed the leader had gone out on a limb and chosen SPECIFICALLY Seven for some unnamed reason, to a point that even Redtooth was fuckin annoyed about it (probably because to some degree Redtooth envied him but let's pack that away for another day) so I don't know WHY this eye is here
There's also a crow here which I would assume was ALSO for the leader's spybird if it wasn't for Blackbird's whip right next to it? But like, Blackbird doesn't seemingly have an unsettled score with Seven. He wanted him to die, yes, and he said "painfully at my hands," but that's like, how everyone dies to Blackbird. And their entire fight, there was nothing brought up about something in their past or between these two, everything was only about Blackbird's past and his tramua, which almost sounded like he felt like he needed to be this anti-hero killing Seven because of the order and would let Shimen take the reward.
There's also a really faint hand here? I don't know what else to attribute it to other than this hand:
back in season three, which this sequence was VERY much a long allegory about Seven's nature and that he's had a very, very short time to live the life he wanted and that he's basically being fucking dragged through life at this rate, though noticeably the hand here in season four has a red, glowy texture on it (aside from the rest of the texture near it) that's seeming to me either be blood or also another sort of imagery for the poison in him
but also there feels like there's a larger image here, too? It's really hard to make out because I can't really tell if it's just the shading , or a stylistic choice, but the bottom right is noticeably a different shade and has an outline and the inside has a wood-grain like texture? But I think also this might just be a sort of outline - given where it starts on Seven's shoulder - that's supposed to look like a gaseous, poison cloud coming from him. just AAAAAAAH oh my GOD there's so much to think about from this 20 seconds alone kill me
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Exactly! And all this "heartstopper is purity culture" discourse too, I'd bet this wouldn't have happened if the author wasn't aroace.
i haven't seen many people calling it 'purity culture' thank god, but i do remember some weird takes when s1 first came out abt how nick discovering he was bi was unrealistic bc there was 'no sexual aspect' (or smth?? i don't remember exactly) and like. yes teenagers do Think About Sex and my own teenage bi awakening did involve That, but people seem to miss that heartstopper is SPECIFICALLY written to have a 12 rating here in the uk so younger teens can access it and feel seen.
there's absolutely space in teen lgbt fiction for exploring sexual awakenings (see: a very large number of YA books that any teen can access in their local library), but that's not what heartstopper is. i think everyone's just gotten used to most teen shows being sex-obsessed that they think it should be in every show when... to be honest from my own experience in a british secondary school the amount of people actually having sex was very low, and (newsflash) not all teens actually think about sex all that much!! and i don't just mean ace people, some just genuinely aren't all that bothered at that age.
and yes, as you've said, alice being aroace is definitely an aspect of people's bullshit takes, not to mention a lot of people saying this shit would have their arguments disproven if they read the comics (see: the entire arc that just took place abt nick and charlie wanting to have sex but both having different hangups abt it). i also feel like shows seen as 'wholesome' queer rep are the ones always criticised the most, and people feel the need to nitpick every single tiny aspect and say "uhm this was bad actually!!" which fine. you can have your own opinion, but it does seem suspect this always happens when a show with multiple, unapologetically queer characters becomes mainstream.
there've also been a lot of people blasting heartstopper for being 'cringe' (which i've talked abt already so i won't repeat myself), and i think this links to a lot of the takes i've been seeing. it seems to be a trend online to not be allowed to just dislike something, you have to justify disliking it by saying it's actually Immoral and Harmful and Bad Rep, the latter of which especially relies on personal experiences and can't be universally applied. when the lgbtq+ experience is so wide, the validity of 'rep' isn't a something we can universally agree on.
anyway, sorry your ask turned into an entire essay, i just have a lot of strong feelings about this show as someone who's been a fan of the comics for years and sees myself in a lot of the characters.
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Headcanon: Family and Heritage
While responding to this thread, I had an idea, did some research, and discovered that it would make sense, so I'm going to implement it. The information might not be completely accurate, but I am going on what I have been able to find, with adjustments to make it better suit the L.ion King setting.
One side of S.car and M.ufasa's family are K.alahari lions. These are lions that have adapted to live in the desert. Compared to relatives in other areas, these lions are leaner, but often sport darker manes. They usually, but not always, have narrow noses to help protect the nasal cavities from sand and heat. However, their pelts were usually paler in comparison.
When the princes were growing up, there were only two lions that shared these "outsider" traits: Scar, and one parent. Some lionesses from the same pride as the parent might have visited or joined briefly, but I'm not sure how long they might have been around for. It might be possible, for instance, that S.imba never saw an outsider lion aside from S.car in his youth.
Had there been other siblings, there is a chance that one of them might have inherited these features. However, as the King and Queen had the brothers late in life, there were no other litters after them.
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i saw you were looking for another place to post your nsfw art, maybe ao3?
(as someone whos been following your art for years and really really doesnt wanna have to make a twitter account id looove to be able to see the full pieces literally anywhere else)
someone suggested that, actually. i actually have posted a few art in there already but my only gripe is that it tends to kill the quality, which is so so annoying to me since i work with a large canvas and i like to do detailed stuff. i'll keep looking around though but if i can't find anywhere else i'll prob just upload there ...
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