#it’s fucking racist and I’m exhausted

[oceanatydes]

why the fuck is there no brown mc for south Asian players? they keep making the MCs paler and paler. they literally look like zombies

[softestepilogue]

full offense but fandoms are unbearable because y’all are unlikable. y’all are so weird and i will die on that hill.

this is like the third time i’ve been in a fandom where a white male SIDE character is heavily favored by the fandom and they start jumping through hoops, and grabbing reasons out their asses, to prove why the main poc character is a terrible person. they will also ignore any wrongdoing of the side white male character.

it’s so fucking weird and exhausting.

[puthyflapps]

Swifties prove everyday that they’re the dumbest people on the internet and that’s really saying something cuz I’ve dealt directly with blarkes

[omegasamwilson]

I miss being in a fandom where racism actually mattered

[rowenablade]

Okay. I’m going to wait to do a second watch before I articulate most of my other feelings here, but I want to address one thing.

I’m seeing a lot of posts like, “I related to Izzy because I am also queer and older/disabled/depressed. By killing him off, the writers are saying that I deserve to die.”

Guys.

I’m not saying your feelings aren’t valid. I totally understand grieving a character that you relate to. But speaking as a writer, I just want to point out that trying to write with the shadow of “what is the absolute worst and most harmful way a reader can interpret this” will smother your ability to create. Twisting yourself in knots, trying to think up the worst-faith takes possible and scotch-guarding all your writing decisions against them is exhausting to the point of making you just not want to write anymore.

And we’ve seen the writers deliberately choose not to do this in Season 1. Remember all those terrible “Izzy is racist” takes that the writers and cast seemed completely blindsided by? That happened because the writers and directors and actors weren’t going over every scene with a fine tooth comb, ferreting out every shot or line of dialogue or micro expression that could possibly be interpreted as racist, and scrubbing it off. Because there comes a point where your story is what it needs to be, and you have to accept that some people will interpret it in ways you didn’t intend them to. And if you can’t accept that, you’ll never find the courage to put your work out there.

The point of diverse casts and writing teams isn’t to achieve a state of, “Nothing bad ever happens to a character from a marginalized demographic ever again.” It’s to achieve a status quo of these types of characters just being people in the world of the story. Not symbols, not representation boxes to tick, not tokens that you can point to so that you can say, “Here, we acknowledged this type of person exists, now where’s our woke points?”

OFMD is full of characters of color, queer characters, older characters, characters of differing body types. And in stories, things happen to characters. Some fall in love. Some make the same mistakes over and over. Some turn into birds. Some die.

Izzy’s character represents a lot of things, but he does not represent every older, disabled fan or fan who has struggled with suicide, any more than Jim represents all genderqueer fans, or Olu represents all black fans. That’s not how the writers were handling him. They were handling him like a character, because that’s what you have to do.

Again, I understand being sad. I am so, so fucking sad. But this idea of, “Any time something bad happens to a character I relate to means that the writer thinks I deserve these bad things to happen to me,” will poison everything you engage with eventually. Because stories are full of things happening to characters, and they won’t all be good things. And the more representation we get, the more often bad things will happen to characters we relate to.

But good things will happen too.

Queer couples get married. Disabled women run off with their favorite husbands. Middle-aged characters change careers. A multiracial polycule finds a home at sea. A fat man covered in tattoos stars in a drag show and all his friends cheer. All these things happened in the same show as Izzy’s death. This is what this world is.

Anyway. I know emotions are running high and I’ll probably get blocked or unfollowed by a few people for this. But I’m just trying to find my peace where I can, and if anyone else finds this useful, cheers.

[cluelessbees]

I’m happy people are realising Noah is being racist but I’m also hurt that a lot of people refused to listen to me when I said it :/

Like as an Arab in this community it really feels like my voice doesn’t matter. This situation is personal to me. I called his racism and yet a lot of people wanted to doubt and invalidate my voice.

Idk I’m just exhausted from this. I feel like this community needs to re-evaluate some things ngl. I love it regardless but I was pushed into silence because barely anyone even showed me support on my opinions on him. But now that hes being so fucking blatantly racist. Now you realise.

I want this community to be better because for the past month it didn’t feel like a safe space for me as an Arab to talk about this.

[ayeforscotland]

what do you think of the reveal that nicola sturgeon deleted all her covid whatsapp messages?

I honestly don’t care, and not for the reason you think.

I’m exhausted. I saw this on twitter two days ago and I quote tweeted it.

My utilities bill is higher than ever, my weekly shop is more expensive than ever, I have no savings after giving it all to my boiler and even then I had to ask people for help.

I do not give a fuck about covid what’s app messages, which aren’t important anyway because What’s App wasn’t used as an official communication channel throughout the pandemic.

I do not give a shit when the worst people in Scottish politics try to hype up a scandal.

‘Dame’ thick-as-shit Jackie Baillie who lied to elderly voters about their pensions during the independence referendum.

Misogynist Alex Cole-Hamilton who still ducks media scrutiny over everything the former Scottish LibDem CEO, Emma Walker, has came public with.

And racist little cunt Douglas Ross who’s ‘if he was prime minister for the day’ fantasy was harsh restrictions on the Gypsy, Roma, Traveller community.

I do not care what these pile of arseholes think is a huge scandal when me and all my friends are struggling with basic needs. Friends who were managing fine a few months ago and are now aggressively budgeting to make ends meet.

[verosikastrikerstellaexcuser]

Man I’m so exhausted knowing that Blitz being selfish in bed towards Verosika and stealing her credit card and just generally not valuing her and playing with her heart, as well as the accident that Fizz for years thought was deliberate which disabled him and made Barbie lose her mother too. All that is gonna be compared to the St*litz drama. The St*litz fallout is gonna be “just another example of Blitz hurting those he loves” like those other instances.

Shoving someone as you hurry to get away after seeing something understandably hurtful and that leading to a fucking fire-explosion, along with genuinely hurting Verosika and playing with her heart because you’ve got issues is not even close to being the same as getting tired of a guy sexually harassing and extorting you in a classist and racist way. They’re NOT the fucking same. The fire was a genuine accident of course Blitz could have never imagined it would lead to that I don’t think anyone would. And Verosika was genuinely wronged by him.

Blitz thinking St*las was joking because he has endlessly sexualized him at every waking moment and then being annoyed when St*las flipped the script on him and acted like he was the one making it always about sex is the same as those 2 things? For real that’s what we’re going for?

It’s just exhausting like yea Blitz has done a lot wrong but he accidentally blew his mother and childhood best friend/crush up. He does try to improve like with Moxxie and he tolerates a lot from Loona. And now we’re guilting him for feeling fucked with and confused after months of his boundaries being gleefully crossed while he could do nothing about it… the Blitz angst and borderline torture porn is just exhausting at this point tbh. All this serious stuff and it’s gonna wrap around to being about St*litz…

[ardourie]

Sorry I’m not caught up who is dragos and do you have proof of him starting the rumor?

dragos is a stalker ive had for a couple years now who routinely deletes and remakes blogs bc of posting about rape and pedophilia often theirs a whole run down in the doc in my pinned but tldr version here he started a “sexually harass tyler” day and got ppl to send me genital pictures and descriptions of how they wanted to sexually assault me as a child under my selfies, and obviously it freaked me the fuck out as a csa victim and he came to “apologize”

him being a stalker tho this ofcourse wouldn’t be the last time ive had to block him and his interactions he’s been at this for years like i said and before he got deleted a few months ago he made up the rumor of me being on kiwifarms bc he was mad at me for saying he was racist and calling his friends racist for supporting him

he’s a white guy btw the racism stuff is in the doc but he routinely makes sexual and raceplay comments about black people and has done so to me as well and has doubled down multiple times on what he’s told his friends to send me and other black users who call him out and from above u can see he very clearly isnt a pleasant person, he’s routinely tried to accuse me of random things like getting people swatted by cops and killed to abusing a partner i didnt have to saying i hurt children bc hes mentally unwell and he had admitted to being behind some of the ask sent to random blogs stirring drama, but ofcourse a lot of those blogs already dont like me so they would see those rumors or baits and take it and it would create more shit, he is genuinely fixated on me and it’s. like exhausting. the doc has more proof and such but he’s a fascist white guy who routinely sexually harassed ppl and lies about me and he’s the origin of that kiwifarms screenshot that’s being accused of being me and spread around by that rin tezuka girl

[eddiediazismyhusband]

Can I just say how exhausting it is to tag fics in this day and age with this fucking shipwar going on? I get that it's frustrating to read about a character you despise. Totally get that. But I seriously don't understand what we are supposed to do at this point. Having the "minor BT" tag means that the ship is definitely there, but it's not the focus of the story. How else are you going to show that?

Some people are mad when you tag all the involved ships no matter how small their part. Other people get mad that there aren't enough ships tagged.

There really is no winning here, man.

When a ship takes up (quite honestly more than in this instance) 2/3 of the entire story as a central part of the plot then it is in no way “minor” anything. It’s not just about the ship being there- it’s about it literally being the plot with a spoonful of buddie at the end.

If a fic is tagged “minor bt” i am not expecting to read a bt fanfic where they have a full-blown graphic sex scene in the middle, and then have some little last minute ‘feelings realization’ for buddie in the last chapter when the story has had no buildup to buddie or any other indication that it’s a buddie fic otherwise.

it’s not impossible to tag. if you fic prominently features a ship then tag it with that ship. if your fic includes a ship that is very much in the background and has very little influence on the plot, THEN tag it “minor x/y”

i’m also sick of people coming into my inbox phrasing things like it’s somehow my own fault that i don’t like a character that has been explicitly shown to be racist, misogynistic, dismissive, arrogant, and just overall unbearable— so yeah, i’m gonna be upset if i click on a fic that’s tagged as buddie and implies that the story is going to be about buddie and it’s actually about bt.

people aren’t getting mad about ships being tagged when they’re there. people are getting mad when they’re clicking on a fic expecting it to be about one ship when in reality it’s about an entirely different ship altogether that isn’t tagged. I have the bt tag filtered out for a reason— i should not be getting fics where that is a major central ship. If it had actually been a fic where bt wasn’t the focus then i wouldn’t be this annoyed but this issue is constant

so no, anon, there is a way around this— and it’s called correctly tagging your fics. if you find that taking the time to carefully tag your fics is “exhausting” then you are probably part of the problem

i am not responsible for this “ship war”. i did not ask for time minear and abc to bring back a shit character for a love interest, nor did i ask for half the fandom to jump ship at the drop of a hat snd start sending death threats and violent hate asks to people who have valid qualms and criticisms of this character- to the point where they are harassing actors for not acknowledging the ship or harassing crew members for being pro buddie and then wondering why they’re getting blocked by people involved in the show.

all im asking is that you properly and thoroughly tag your fics so that i don’t have to read bt fics disguised as buddie fics when i have so many tags filtered out already that i should not realistically be seeing that ship playing a major role in the fics that are left.

[bohemian-nights]

Nettles and Daeron is not cut or being replaced with others. They're coming in S3 but they're making Nettles the only Dragonseed not chosen by Rhaenyra which make sense since she's supposed to hate her. I believe Daemon will bring her in the team and she won't trust her immediately.

Even Daeron might be there in s2. Ryan has confirmed he will be there(at some point), however, he won’t say anything on Nettles.

I agree that she’s not cut, but I’m livid that this show thinks it’s acceptable to literally include and highlight everyone except the most important dragonseed. I’m incensed that they don’t think she’s worthy of address.

I don’t care what they do at this point. I don’t like her being treated like a fucking afterthought.

And I’m truly sorry for cursing and I’m not trying to be a hater of other characters cause they have qualities that people like. I’m just mad at this dumbass show and these biased showrunners.

This show needs to give up the giving women a voice crap cause that’s a a God damned lie when you treat the most vulnerable woman during the Dance like trash. Don’t claim that you’re trying to champion diversity and then limit the only canonically Black character because she makes the racist you’re trying to prop up look bad(and yes I have to go there because that’s really what this is about)

You’re not for women if you cut out the most oppressed woman during the Dance and give her role to men and those who have privilege. You’re not telling women’s stories if you won’t show the range of womanhood.

Like this fandom is bad enough with their insistence that she can be replaced, that she doesn’t matter, and that her relationship with Daemon is creepy, or gross, or nonexistent…it’s exhausting. I just can’t get excited for a show that pulls this bullcrap.

She should be there this season, but she’s not. The blatant disregard is too much.

[theworthwhilefight]

taylor swift’s specific brand of feminism is one where she has always been the last person to speak out about human rights and then only does it when it serves her and does the absolute bare minimum. her brand of feminism is calling out the government or stupid fucking confederate statues instead of real, pressing issues. and she came out with that stupid miss americana documentary which i watched once and literally never again in order to paint herself as some progressive white woman champion lmfao. and i’m not here to villainize her because clearly i’ve been a huge fan of hers for the better half of my life and i do agree that she has been a victim of a lot of unnecessary sexist hate and i wouldn’t wish 2016 on anyone but that’s quite literally the extent of her victimhood. everything she has ever endured has been solely to the extent of what a White Woman can endure. taylor swift’s whiteness allows her to selectively choose when she wants to apply her activism (aka defending herself regarding a stupid joke in ginny & georgia) and it allows her to be protected against further hatred that woc and celebrities of color constantly feel and it allows her to date this vile man without feeling any of his hatred directed towards her. she CHOSE to call herself miss americana and act like she’s been on a long journey to becoming an activist lmfao yet does nothing to prove it. and it’s exhausting as a poc to continuously beg her to speak up about shit and then have her go around and not just date him but allow him to play on her stage and continuously be seen being friends and holding hands and kissing him. and she’s not just silly celebrity making a dumb choice, she is quite literally the most famous pop star right now and the people she surrounds herself with MATTER. her associating with people like this only further validates their beliefs and hatred. and i don’t wanna hear a single mf talk abt “letting her be happy” or “staying out of her personal business” bc y’all loved dragging joe once they broke up and y’all love dragging jake and y’all love dragging john so why don’t people actually invest their energy into shaming someone who has an entire history of problematic things he’s happily admitted to doing and start standing up for people who deserve to be stood up for (aka the marginalized groups and individuals he continues to attack and NOT the white woman who supports his actions).

i love taylor swift but let’s not pretend that she’s some white woman champion of progressive rights when at most she’s only spoken up and said the most vanilla shit only when it has convenienced her. as fans, we have the right to be angry about her recent recurring associations with him not just as her boyfriend but as someone who she has allowed on her stage (with phoebe) and call her out on her associating with extremely problematic behavior. this isn’t a post saying we should cancel her or that she’s racist herself or anything, but it’s a reminder that she has always been very much of a white feminist and she needs to see how her actions and associations affect her fans and promote harm.

[gailslunchbox]

WNBA fans wanna call CC fans insurable?

Let’s talk about y’all.

CC brings a new level of attention on women’s basketball in general. She was the only sports story all fall/winter long, which we’ve almost never seen before from a women’s basketball player, MUCH less a NCAA women’s basketball player. That’s when this starts. She’s going to be exposed for her lack of defense and the WNBA players are experienced and more physical. Y’all could have just supported her desire to succeed as a professional player, but no, the bullshit already began.

Then it becomes clear that Caitlin is selling out arenas, opposing teams are moving to larger venues, and viewership is at an all time high but noooooo…Caitlin didn’t have anything to do with that and veteran players were keeping the league alive.

Caitlin is fouled from behind, in a non basketball play, and her players didn’t immediately rush to start a physical fight, which is how professional athletes should conduct themselves. So that somehow turns into a reflection of Caitlin not having her teammates back and that’s why they didn’t rush to defend her.

Her boyfriend of over a year liked ONE tweet that I’ve seen you all post and her brother likes a tweet and she’s associating with known racists and she won’t speak publicly on LGBTQ+ and BLM movements, so she doesn’t stand for what the WNBA does.

Caitlin doesn’t make the Olympic roster and texts her coach a personal reaction, likely more about her motivation to make the next roster and not her trying to shit on the current roster. Suddenly it’s about her ego and her ignorance that she actually thought she would make the team. Of course she did, she sets high expectations for herself. It doesn’t mean she dissed the players who did make the roster.

Kate Martin makes a comment about her leadership at Las Vegas and it turns into a CC debate.

I’m so fucking tired of the “OG fans” turning everything into a debate and using it as a reason to shit on someone who literally just wants to play basketball and help her team succeed. It’s petty, it’s exhausting, and it’s disheartening to see so many fans of the league try to turn a YOUNG woman into the villain she isn’t.

Just enjoy the game, stop turning everything into a debate like they do with politics. Fuck. The only “CC fans” creating drama on social media are trolls. The rest are actual basketball fans who are excited to see the sport grow and young girls who now aspire to be like CC. And you’re the most unwelcoming fanbase in history. Period.

[edandstede]

being trans in the uk is exhausting. it’s dire and hopeless and i’m tired. tories trying to roll back our rights and healthcare, they don’t want us to piss in public, it would take me years on the nhs just to get a gender dysphoria diagnosis in order to even begin accessing surgeries and hormones, i gotta use up most of my raised funds just on private consultations alone and i’m one of the lucky ones who has funds at all. most surgeons won’t even chop your tits off if your bmi is too high even though bmi is fucking bullshit. we’re suffering and dying, being fucking murdered while our prime minister makes transphobic jokes in parliament, suicide rates are rocketing. we’re debated talking points and punchlines on your racist uncle’s facebook posts and our youth are treated like they’re just being brainwashed into thinking they’re trans. some of you can’t let go of the mediocre wizard books written by a millionaire terf who funds anti-trans groups just because you grew up with them, and you’re so out of touch with reality. hell so many cis gays hate us too even though to everyone else we’re all indiscernible from one another. if they’re putting me on the chopping block then you’re next so why are you helping them curl the fists they’ll use to beat you with too? every angle is just a nightmare to navigate and some people still think it’s a choice. i can’t take it anymore.

[scarrletmoon]

it's izzy hands it's kylo ren it's billy from stranger things it's snape it's draco it's loki circa 2012-2014 it's a REPEATED PATTERN throughout all of fandom of an antagonistic white guy getting a devoted fanbase that is both disproportionate to his importance in the story and also misunderstands the white guy's role as an antagonist. they think their mean little guy is a misunderstood victim and they base their entire fandom experience around him. and then in season 2 ofmd went and redeemed izzy before killing him off to further ed's arc, something that is a solid choice from a technical writing standpoint but from a fandom perspective it built the izzy fans up into thinking they were right about how izzy has never been homophobic, izzy is a poor downtrodden abuse victim, and from day one izzy has been a protector and the only competent guy around and a loyal and dutiful first mate. and possibly the most significant part is that so many izzy fans have accidentally and unknowingly tricked themselves into thinking that izzy is a main character bc their fandom engagement revolves so heavily around izzy that they forgot the actual show itself doesn't, so they were completely blindsided by a death that has been foreshadowed since season one ("im not dying, not for that twat and not for you" and "only retirement we get is death" and the whole "plumb the depths, man" sequence where izzy was talking to stede through a death shroud ffs). and i want so bad to just ignore it but we literally got a queer romcom centered around an interracial couple and an incredibly diverse cast and an indigenous main character and a diverse writer's room and the season ended on a happy note and it's all about queer joy AND YET. soooooooo much of the post-season discussion has to center around the white side character!!! even in death izzy hands takes up a disproportionate amount of the fandom conversation and im exhausted. it's every fandom! every fucking time!! this isnt anything new this is the same time-honored fandom tradition of white man favoritism YET A-FUCKING-GAIN and im SO FUCKING TIRED OF IT!!!!!!!!!

(i get so scared when i turn on anon bc i’ve consistently gotten such shitty, cowardly messages through it but i’m glad this isn’t one of them lmao)

i know i’ve said this 374748 times but the last time i made the kylo ren/snape/white villain connection on twitter (i mean that’s on me, it’s twitter) i had people legit furious with me for calling them nazis which………..i literally never said

and i get the frustration. trust me, I GET IT. the white villain problem smashes right into white fragility and makes it almost impossible to talk about any of it. it means, like you said, that we’re talking about a fucking white side character in cast of amazing, nonwhite talent, because some people can’t handle confronting the fact that whiteness insulates them from the realities of racism, and that their ignorance and hostility makes them active participants in white supremacy

(and it’s really hard to explain this to people who’ve been taught that racism is when slurs and white klan hoods, because then they’ll say and do the most vile shit and CRY or fight you when you gently try to explain the racist shit they just did)

and because fandom is very queer as well as very white, we also have to contend with the kinds of white people who think that queerness somehow negates their whiteness. that they can’t express their privilege in contexts involving POC. that we’re making shit up to be victims and to minimize their pain on purpose. and time and time again, i have had my queerness erased by white people, so they feel comfortable ignoring criticism i only ever shared bc i was hoping for something better

i’ve said it again and again and again and AGAIN that it’s ESPECIALLY depressing seeing white people close ranks in ofmd fandom especially BECAUSE it has such a diverse cast and doesn’t shy away from discussing racism in all the ways it manifests. like, most of the racism in the show isn’t even subtle and y’all STILL elected to ignore it? do y’all not feel ANY shame about that?

and some of them don’t! bc they think we’re infiltrators. bc they’re only a few steps removed from “they will not replace us” as they see more POC try to join fannish spaces. and they’ll pretend they’re not trying to push us out bc they’re marginalized in other ways — deliberately ignoring the fact that they’re also crushing their fellow queer, disabled and marginalized community

so you’re tired? yeah. me the fuck too. we deserve so much better

[anshelsgendercrisis]

i empathize with what ur going thru being the target of harassment on here . it’s not the same situation but i’m a born and raised hindu queer trans guy and seeing the shit going on in india with the hindutva assholes is exhausting. it’s watching them demonize a history of beauty and compassion that has always had muslims. and i am sure u feel the same way about what the israeli government is doing to palestinians. but it’s exhausting having to prove that just because im a hindu whose family is from India doesn’t mean im a goddamn hindutva. and its must suck for you having to say over and over that you’re not a Zionist islamophobe just cause you’re Jewish. and people will take the palestinian genocide and the hindutva attempted genocide as excuses to be violently racist and antisemitic and i fucking hate it. so . not the same exact situation but i empathize and it’s really hard i’m sorry people r treating you shitty

huge agree. it’s not exactly the same, but i definitely relate to everything you said. it’s infuriating to watch right wing politicians in israel continuously stoke the flames of antisemitism in the diaspora and continue to put israelis and palestinians in danger, especially when there’s nothing i can do. i can’t vote, i don’t have israeli citizenship, i don’t have money to donate. all i can do is just try to make it through and try to have productive conversations in my own community.