#jonsa fans

[noveaucolors]

“The northern girl. Winterfell’s daughter. We heard she killed the king with a spell, and afterward changed into a wolf with big leathery wings like a bat, and flew out a tower window..”

Yeah sike guys, this has and always will be a Sansa stan account and if you hate her because of what she did when she was 13, you may be missing the point.

[artcake]

Hello if request are still open what about a Jonsa wedding art piece or anything Jonsa I just think the one you made was so cute I'm melting

Jonsa my beloved

[atopvisenyashill]

why do you think jonsa is happening tho? jonerys is different bc they are going to be enemies, but i don’t see what jonsa does for the story

so let me first lay out roughly what i think is going to happen should jonsa become canon. I personally love going down meta and graphic spirals, so I'm including links to other people’s theories/explanations/graphics of events too - also I would like to shout out @istumpysk because half these metas and gifsets were stuff I found on their blog initially, and also was the one who really convinced me that jonsa is less of a crackship and more of a contender for an actual canon theory, and from there i really found my niche in this fandom. specifically this meta about jon being the mummer's dragon is what pulled me out of my "we're never getting twow and if we do it's just gonna be that stupid dany has jon's magical baby while tyrion watches, then they all die theory" slump and lit my brain on fire again. let's goooo:

The Ashford Tourney Theory - Something Shady goes down at the tourney Petyr has planned that requires Sansa to make a quick getaway, and likely causes her to run into Brienne while fleeing. This theory for me is about hinting at Sansa's romantic future, allies, and how she's getting the hell out of the Vale: both the dark haired, Not Targ Looking Targ Prince that is the son of A Great Prince That Never Was being her romantic endgame but also it's about Brienne (/Dunk) getting her the hell out of there and becoming Sansa's number one ally and protector (with Sansa's number two being Bronze Yohn!! But he's not fleeing with her - if he helps her get out of the Vale, it'll be to cause a distraction or a fight so Sansa can slip away unnoticed. Bronze Yohn is coming with the knights of the Vale later to help defend his girl!).

The Girl In Grey - Out of options on where to go, Sansa & Brienne makes a long, fast, and dangerous trek to the only family she knows is still alive: Jon Snow at the Wall. No, I don't think Alys Karstark is the girl in grey on a dying horse; I think she's a red herring, the same as the scene where Sweetrobin destroys the snow castle, and that the real girl in grey (who slays the savage giant) is Sansa. Melisandre says that she sees "Jon's sister" but doesn't specify more than that, or how she knows it's Jon's sister, even - why would she assume Alys is Jon's sister and not some random Northern girl? Why was she so sure that it was his sister? It's because Alys isn't the girl in grey, it's Sansa, her horse dying because she's traveled halfway across the continent with Brienne and Pod, desperately trying to keep ahead of the dozens of people hunting her down.

The Blood of Winterfell - Sansa and Jon will reclaim winterfell together. This one is similar to above; just like Alys was a red herring, the scene where Sansa rebuilds the castle has a lot of foreshadowing (imo) but that isn't the moment in the prophecy Arya hears. The Savage Giant is Littlefinger, the castle of snow is Winterfell, and Sansa is going to liberate her home alongside Jon and what's left of the Northern lords.

Stone and Snow Remains - THIS is where Sansa and Jon will fall in love while fighting for the North. This is also the part where you lose a lot of people, because they think the evidence is real weak sauce but like, I also think the Jonerys "evidence" is weak af too (and no wonder, we have at minimum 2k pages left to get through!!). There's several believed foreshadowing points to this one, bare with me for this weird ass formatting because I can't do sub bullet points on tumblr:

1. Sansa's linking of snow with love and affection - "drifting snowflakes brushed her face as light as lover’s kisses, and melted on her cheeks...She could feel the snow on her lashes, taste it on her lips. It was the taste of Winterfell. The taste of innocence. The taste of dreams." along with her snow maiden and snow knight.

2. Bael the Bard and the Rose of Winterfell - the chapter where Sansa gets her period for the first time, Cersei refers to it as “flowering” a dozen times, linking being a maiden (a young girl, not quite of age or just barely of age) to flowers and several people refer to sex as ~plucking. Also notice the one who stole her from KL is Lord BAELish.

3. Aemon the Dragonknight & Queen Naerys - Sansa compares herself to Naerys, Joffrey to Aegon, and wishes for an Aemon, among the many similarities between her life and Naerys'. Jon not only calls himself Aemon, he has a deep connection with a different Aemon Targaryen. And if you’re thinking “Sansa isn’t Naerys, X is Naerys” I would remind you that Sansa as a character existed first, George purposefully had her compare herself to Naerys, and parallels don't belong to just one character.

4. Jenny of Oldstones and The Prince of Dragonflies - there's honestly a lot of parallels between them but like the Aemon/Naerys parallel, the Jenny/Duncan one stands out to me.

5. Janos Slynt - I mean. Iconic. This was the scene that made me first think about what their relationship could be in the future and there’s a reason Jonsas fixate on it. It’s about Sansa being desperate for a hero and the hero she dreamed about being Jon the whole time. 6. Societal Alienation - There's the bastard parallels here, the "it would be so sweet to see him again", the "Winterfell belongs to my sister, Sansa." It's about how Jon, through circumstances of his birth, finds himself alienated from the rest of society and reconnects with his prim and proper sister Sansa, who finds herself alienated from the rest of society as well but for vastly different reasons.

Robb’s Will - Howland is going to show up in the North, along with Maege and Galbert, with some WILD news about why Jon can’t rule Winterfell. There’s a lot of contention around this. Bran probably shows up around this time too, and Arya gets to the Riverlands to discover Lady Stoneheart and give her the gift of mercy. This is where all the inheritance stuff is going to happen and I have no idea how it's going to go down besides it's going to be messy as all fuck.

The Pact Of Ice And Fire - Jon & Sansa get secret married bc they’re in love, not siblings, & jon is the only man she trusts not to steal her claim. This isn't the only possible foreshadowing instance of a marriage either - some believe the Sandor/Sansa scene during the Battle of the Blackwater is foreshadowing as well (personally I feel that's a bit of a stretch but I wanted to include it anyway).

Jon As An Envoy - I talked about this in my "what's Jon's ending" a little but I believe Jon will act as an envoy for either Sansa or Bran to Aegon VI, essentially playing out a similar story that he does in the show with Daenerys. By which I mean, Jon is not the King because the ruler themselves do not go as an envoy, that’s stupid and dangerous, but he goes as an ambassador for Sansa or Bran, to treat with a new claimant to the Iron Throne that is gaining support - Aegon VI & Jon Connington. They will probably clash, Jon will probably have yet another identity crisis, there had BETTER be gay incest subtext, then Aegon dies, and Jon has his sixth quarter life crisis in a row.

“King” of the Gift - again, something I touched on in my Jon meta is that I think he’s going to have a hand in resettling the Gift. Personally, I think it's likely that Jon leaves to protect the claims of his siblings (see: Duncan and Jenny) and goes to the Gift to help resettle it to keep out of the way. This ending is typically referred to as the "bael the bard" ending but i like to think of it as the "brandon's gift" ending instead - though he is not physically with his family, Jon feels fulfilled having confirmed his family loves him through reclaiming Winterfell and marrying Sansa, being reunited with Arya, and being given the Gift by Bran. Sansa claims her children were fathered by a wolf.

So…what does all this do for the story?

Well, in my opinion, several things.

I think the main barrier here is that most people in the greater fandom describe Sansa's story as ~growing past childish wants~ and Jon's as ~rejecting love~ and I do not agree with either of those takes even a little bit. This is where (imo) the dividing line between Jonsas and the rest of the fandom is. I don’t think the answer to Sansa’s question “will anyone ever marry me for love” is going to be “nah" - that's not just a sad story to me (wanting to be married isn't childish! craving intimacy and understanding isn't childish! it's also not wrong for a child to be childish!), I think the idea that Sansa (or Jon) will not find another love just doesn't line up with how George approaches his story. Who Sansa's husband will be has been such a big question, and her story is so heavy into the more romantic tropes like courtly love and chivalry and the line between politics and love and identity, that the question of Sansa's hand in marriage will be plot relevant. I also think it's kinda naive of people to pretend like George isn't very interested in the sexual dynamics of the characters he writes about (yeah, sure, no woman needs a man but "needing a man" is not what this is about. look at everything this man wrote in F&B and tell me he is going to write a female character that longs for sex and desire and doesn't get it!).

After AGOT, nearly every time Sansa thinks about marriage involves her longing for love but believing she will never get it because a man will only ever love her for her claim. Giving her a man - like Jon - who not only will not steal her claim and in fact has defended it twice over already, who will love her for who she is and not what she can give him, is a really important aspect of her story in my opinion.

As for Jon, I am even more firmly against the opinion that his story is about rejecting love; Jon’s story is about wanting to be a good man, to measure up to his father ~despite~ his bastard blood. When Aemon asks if Ned would choose honor over love and Jon stubbornly says yes, Jon is wrong and it’s important to not forget that. Ned has never once in his entire life chosen honor over love; he chooses his daughter’s life over his honor, he chooses his sister & her son’s life over honor, he chooses Arya & Nymeria over honor, and on and on!!! Ned chooses love at almost turn but none of his children know that just yet - look at Robb choosing Jeyne’s honor over his own and how upset he is at the idea that Ned would be disappointed despite the fact that Ned would have understand Robb’s decision! Jon's whole arc is tied up in realizing that it is not wrong or dirty to feel and choose love, passion, and desire and if he never has another romantic arc again, I think you lose the second part of that lesson which is "you are responsible for how you act when you feel love but that doesn't mean that simply choosing love makes you a bad person."

There's also the fact that George has talked a lot about "who lives, who dies, who gets married" and yet we have not one marriage at the end of the show AND there's not a lot of guesses at what "who gets married" means besides Jon/erys (and even if Jonsa doesn't happen, I simply do not see Jon/erys happening. they are not similar enough, they will not be in the same space for long enough, and they are on wildlly different trajectories for their story, they are not getting married let alone having sex). I think Jonsa fits that bill very well.

These various theories - from Sansa being queen, Jon living in exile, The Ashford Tourney Theory, the secret marriage, every one of them - are ideas and themes that I have really been thinking about for about 12 years now. I think Jon and Sansa's relationship could fit with the themes in their stories, the overarching themes in the books, and my own personal opinions. I think it gives George a great opportunity to delve into the courtly love aspects he enjoys so much, as well as delve into inheritance, legacy, legitimacy, honor, incest (yes, that too), and above all, what George himself has said the whole series is about - love. The human heart in conflict with itself is what I think Jon and Sansa as a romantic couple does for the series.

[thatbakedpotato]

you ever read a fic that changes the literal trajectory of life? that renders you incapable of picking up another piece of literature? cause same.

[kellyvela]

lady.of.light.- PO no. 3 of #ComicConFinland: Kit Harington ❄️ I was finally reunited with Kit yesterday after Walker Stalker in Germany some years back and it was such a lovely moment 🥺❤️ He was really sweet and I asked if he could hold my hand as I thought that pose would suit Jon and Sansa well. Plus it's a little different from all my other POs and I'm really liking how this turned out 🥺 He also really appreciated my costume, which means a lot. Ah I'm just sooo happy he was invited to be our guest at this event and I was able to have this experience. And just wait till I share the story from his panel/autograph, it cracked the whole crowd up 😂🙈 Have a great day everyone! ❤️ * #ComicConFinland2024 #HeroesComicCon #ComicCon #KitHarington #GameOfThrones #JonSnow #HouseStark #WinterIsComing #SansaStark #geeklife #fangirling #photoop #convention #dreamcometrue #HBOMaxNordic

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[esther-dot]

The fact that some people think Jon and Sansa will NEVER get close in the books is so crazy to me because it would be such a big, fat, missed opportunity 😭 Martin turns Sansa into a bastard and then… does nothing with it? Her relationship with her bastard brother never changes? Okay.

She had not thought of Jon in ages. He was only her half brother, but still . . . with Robb and Bran and Rickon dead, Jon Snow was the only brother that remained to her. I am a bastard too now, just like him. Oh, it would be so sweet, to see him once again. But of course that could never be. Alayne Stone had no brothers, baseborn or otherwise. (AFFC, Alayne II)

Simply by what interests Martin, it makes sense to me that he'd want to "introduce" these characters who know, and yet don't fully know each other, who have so much baggage that can be unwound by their reunion (siblings who barely were, siblings no longer but children of warring families) there's so much he can explore there! All the trust that comes with family, but the lack of a relationship that established that specific trust, the pressures that might put them at odds (heirs with dueling claims), the things that would bind them together (the same dreams, the desire to rebuild Winterfell), and those things that make it difficult to find a status quo of what they are to each other/how to interact, Jon the bastard (outsider), Sansa the consummate lady (ultimate insider). And you’re right, the fact that Sansa now has experienced some time living as a bastard (and potentially patterned Alayne on Jon in some ways) adds depth there.

Their dynamic would allow Martin to answer the male/female inheritance issue, examine playing the political game but with principle, Jon's residual trauma from Cat, Sansa's with her dad...so many threads that could be woven into this dynamic in particular. I’m with you. It would a travesty not to play in this particular sandbox.

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

alicent and sansa with your bright red hair you are my enemy

stop trying to be ygritte you both could never

you have brown and auburn hair respectively with a side of some pretty misogynistic crazy fans who hate the hot dragon ladies

rhaenyra and dany you will both forever be famous

and stop stealing the winter roses rip my boy jon your symbolism is too cool too pretty so thieves are snatching it up bc for some reason little birds just aren’t good enough so a pretty flower is needed as well

i know this beef has long passed but almost every sansa fanart has a winter rose in it while i think i’ve only ever seen one fanart with jon holding some winter roses. the thieves have cleared my boy out and forced him into something so disturbing so gross so horrid so nasty and called it jonsa

they tried replacing satin with sansa it’s horrible

jonsatin is the real jonsa

it’s the truth

i’m a bi jon truther

i genuinely do not know what the point of this post is

[crimsoncold]

[artcake]

@minitafan you're right

[gh-0-stcup]

It's tough being in the ASOIAF fandom while hating both Jonsa and Jonerys.

[vermithorrr]

What is this shitty ass take doing in my “a tu medida” page?

(And being liked and rebloged by users with valyrian or dragon names and targaryen this or that in the their user names but with j0nsa, s@nsa, anti dany, anti rhaenyra, targs are colonizers yada yada but my fave is Alysanne reincarnated or anti bastards content in their blogs lololol)

[estherruth-jonsatrash]

Sansa fans and Jonsa shippers are the baddest bitches. Everyday we wake up and we choose violence just by existing, making the rest of the fandoms' heads explode and I honestly think it's very sexy of us.

[rise-my-angel]

U like Sansa? Personally she’s so bland and self righteous that I find it impossible to like her :( her personality depended on the people she was spending time with

Sansa is like my problematic little sister who makes my life a frustrating hell, but I still spoil her everytime I come to visit.

She certainly has her issues and I have judged her for them in the past, especially regarding her entitlement, selfishness, and classiest views. All of which are issues riddled throughout her story.

But there is a part of me that remembers that behind it all, she is just an innocent, naive girl who is being forced to play house in the capitol and family that murdered her father in front of her, and is forcing her to play pretend that she can't wait for the rest of her traitor family to die so she can marry the King who did all of this in the first place.

Sansa in the books, and Sansa in the first four seasons are very much that girl who while has a LOT of growing up to do, she is still just that naive girl who desperately needs someone to care about her with no hangups attached like everyone around her, but she never gets it. She is nothing more then a pawn to these people who see her as a useful pretty airhead instead of someone that given the right mentor and environment, could be very clever and quick on her feet.

In the first four seasons she has some great moments. Like when Joffery forces her to look at her fathers head on a spike, and she risks her own life by stepping forward about to push Joffery off the ledge before she's stopped and knocked back into reality by the Hound telling her to keep herself alive and play along. Or the scene where Margaery proposes she can get Sansa to Highgarden by marrying her to Loras and you just see that innocent girl who wants someone to care about her finally have hope, only to be seen next on the docks in tears as all of it was taken away from her before she could even dream about that better life.

She isn't the most interesting character, and her last four seasons in the show I have made quite clear I absolutely hate her characterization, but the Sansa we see whose still just a girl trapped in Kings Landing being forced to say she wants her whole family dead and smile while doing so, I feel for her.

I remember that Sansa in those moments, behind all her issues and flaws, is just a naive girl who no one around actually cares about and it makes me care about her more, beacause no matter what her flaws are, someone should.

But I do not at all blame people who cannot get past those flaws.

[reginarubie]

I’ve posted the new chapter of “Story ideas I can’t get out of my head” with this Jonsa first chapter

”He had always wanted it, but not like this. Never like this. He had always wanted it, but not like this. The hunger in his chest had become a hole so big that Seven Kingdoms and a whole world besides could not fill it. Florian and fair Jonquil. Aemon Dragonknight and queen Naerys. Jenny and her prince of dragonflies. They were all just that, stories. Tales. No, her soft voice resounded in his ears, all stories can’t be lies.“ — Tale of a black knight and his fair lady wolf

For reference, Rhaegar and Lyanna and Elia survive as well as the children, Robert dies but even though Elia dies before Rhaegar he never marries Lyanna afraid to try the dornish pride once again. Jon is raised in Kings Landing with his half brother and sister.

When lord Ned Stark dies, Aegon — freshly crowned king just a couple of years past — sends Jon as envoy North to ensure the new lord of Winterfell is as disinclined as his father to break from the Iron throne and to find him a Stark wife to make queen.

Jon has no choice but to obey.

Forbidden Jonsa, political intrigue, betrayal, war, backstabbing, plotting and no enemy to the North — no Others, no NK — just political and passion intrigue wrapped all together with older and darker Jonsa.

Go read it and let me know what you think of it! I think I will post it solo, and let it run free but I wanna hear your opinion about it.

I, on my part, am obsessed with it!

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

made the mistake of going onto a jonsa fans tumblr page and was scarred for life and then lost a few brain cells.

i agree that ppl can be a bit too critical of sansa, but it’s not right to say that a lot of that criticism is wrong or undeserved. and it’s also ignoring the fact that a lot of this harsh criticism is in response to many sansa stans agenda to warp every single character so that they can try to make the ending they have for sansa in their heads make sense. (the warping of characters extends to sansa bc sometimes i don’t think they actually like the character sansa. if i’m to be mean i’d say they like the parts of her they can project onto…)

i’m generalizing a lot. but. i’ve had many nasty experiences with rabid sansa stans and i still haven’t been able to enjoy sansa’s character like i used to. it’s quite disappointing.

[thewindsofwolves]

Jon Snow & Sansa Stark Book Parallels & Mentions 41/∞ : Jon refuses to steal Sansa’s birthright 

"How can I lose men I do not have? I had hoped to bestow Winterfell on a northman, you may recall. A son of Eddard Stark. He threw my offer in my face." Stannis Baratheon with a grievance was like a mastiff with a bone; he gnawed it down to splinters. "By right Winterfell should go to my sister Sansa." "Lady Lannister, you mean? Are you so eager to see the Imp perched on your father's seat? I promise you, that will not happen whilst I live, Lord Snow."  A Dance With Dragons, Jon I