Cont of my other post, but this one has yonah spoilers
SHE DOES THE SAME "warden. No.... Es" THING ON BOTH WHICH MAKES ME EXCITED TO SEE WHAT SHE'LL DO AS SHES PISSED ON T3
the difference on how she slaps her hand on the table on t1 to make Es snap out of their identity crisis vs on T2 going in and comforting them
Kotoko has said that she would forgive someone who did the same thing she did.... so.... do you guys think that if she knew exactly about Amane's murder she would forgive her? Because.... If she knew the circumstances and everything she had to endure and all of that, she would notice Amane was one of the people she needed to protect.... But makes me wonder since on deep cover she calls her out on her cult thing, so... Would she be a hypocrite and be like "you did good but you had the wrong mentality, so you should be punished" or would she still accept and forgive her... Like, I understand that her views are black and white, which is what brought me to that question. How heavy are the person's motivations on her books when doing something that she'd consider good...
killing someone isn't inherently good or evil. I love my morally gray wife... But makes me wonder... At first it appeared like she was guiding herself on this, and on Es' judgment "these are guilty, so these are evil" but she dissed on everyone... And basically said everyone should be guilty... I was wondering why she said that on t1 and then turned around and came to this conclusion and I think that's one of the things that her inno verdict radicalized her on. SHE can see who did evil and who didn't, SHE isn't in the wrong, SHE was right all along. I still believe she's throwing a tantrum because Es doesn't want to play with her anymore, and she is like "but you said I was right! You are soft! You are turning on me!" That's what she felt...
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I completely understand why it's inappropriate and wrong to police peoples internet experience and how they view their favorite characters and what not but it's also extremely important to understand that if someone throws away a character's personality and important traits away to shove their own ideologies and beliefs into them to 'mold' them into a 'perfected' version of themselves then it's often a tell tall sign of how they treat their personal relationships.
The internet has become a fictitious reality with virtually no consequences and a lot of people can no longer dictate fiction from reality.
Obviously this does not apply to everyone, just because someone molds and changes a character in fiction does not guarantee they will do it in real life, but also be aware that reality dictates fiction, and if they're willing to do it (to the extreme) in fiction, some part of them would be willing to try it in real life.
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To be fair, if I've ever met Joker Out in a "normal" conditions (classes, neighbours, ecc) I would've been absolutely afraid of them
I have a tendency to judge people (mostly men 😒) very harshly based off their appearance and especially Bojan, Kris and Jan fall into "DO NOT TALK TO AT ANY COST" category. I wouldn't have even talked to them but give them the worst traits ever. Only Jure looks like someone that I'd see and go "oh yeah, he looks like a nice human!"
So it is kind of confusing for me when I see them being the way they are (obviously I don't know them personally, but they just don't seem to be... this bad as I thought)
Why am I saying this? I dont know, I've just woken up and I'm anxious so maybe this is it
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The case of Jennifer Scott
Something that has haunted me since I finished the Black Flag game and novel all those years ago is: What the fuck happened between Edward meeting Jenny and the events of AC: Forsaken?
Chronologically, AC: Forsaken came first, and then the Black Flag game and novel. We have Haytham's perspective, we are introduced to Jenny as someone who's upset that their father wouldn't train her as an assassin and, ostensibly, Edward and Tessa just want to marry off. Haytham is a bit of an unreliable narrator, because the adults try not to argue in front of him, so we don't know if getting rid of Jenny is what Edward really wanted, but the idea that she doesn't belong in the household is pretty well-established at this point.
Decades down the line, after Reginald Birch kills their father and Haytham saves his sister, Jenny says in her own words that that was the case:
"I hated him. All his talk of freedom—spiritual and intellectual freedom—didn’t extend to me, his own daughter. There was no weapons training for me, remember? No ‘Think differently’ for Jenny. There was just ‘Be a good girl and get married to Reginald Birch."
Then Black Flag the video game releases a year later in October 2013, and Black Flag the novel releases in December 2013 two months later. It's already been well-established that Edward was a flawed father to Jenny.
The Black Flag video game ends with this girl having the guts to travel across the fucking ocean all alone to meet a father she's never met. She's the milestone. She's Edward's commitment to a new life and fostering a child's view of the world.
Let's look at the Black Flag novel. This man addresses his first-person life story (the novel's narrative framing) to Jenny. Like Haytham does with Ratohnhaké:ton, he tells her his background, and is even honest with how was cast out by his own mother when he came back to Wales. Oliver Bowden wrote out Edward's adoration and willingness to stick with his daughter knowing full well of the eventual gap in their relationship.
Meta-wise, we know the writers probably wanted to make Edward as flawed as possible, and also tragedy is like candy to Ube Softee.
In-universe, what the fuck happened between the events of Black Flag and Forsaken to make Edward neglect Jenny?
Maybe while he was trying to rebuild his life, he couldn't spend as much time with her as he wanted. And when Tessa came into the picture, and then Haytham, well. Even if you still love your kids equally, the way you treat them is different. Jenny was probably neglected.
I'm not dissecting this in the context of Edward-drinks-respect-women-juice or whether or not you can call him a feminist, because I think those are really broad terms for someone who's lived in at least three different worlds with different rules all before he's 40. That deserves its own post.
But it seems wild to me that Edward -- someone who married a woman who matched his energy and stood up to drunken assholes to help other people; someone who in his own words respected Mary Read more than anything; someone who took counsel from Anne Bonny and trusted her to be his quartermaster -- wouldn't train his ballsy daughter to be an Assassin, and instead groom his son to be one instead. Where did that double-standard come from?
Did he want to protect his child from that world? Maybe he changed his mind by the time Haytham came along, but it was too late for Jenny.
It could go back to how he neglected Caroline too. He left to seek his fortune, out of selfish personal glory but also because she'd given up her inheritance to live a humble life he was ashamed to put her into. And because she eventually left him because all he could do was dream about it. He left his parents -- and in a sense, his wife -- to chase his dreams. Maybe that pattern repeated with his daughter. Once he started building a new life in England, with a new woman, there just wasn't space to consider training her anymore.
I think he decided on a certain life for her -- married, with a good reputation in high society -- and dismissed her when she wanted to become an Assassin, because he'd lived that life and didn't want it for her. Even though...that's incredibly myopic of him. Did he really think that the girl who, as a kid who'd just lost her mother, crossed a pirate-infested ocean to be with him would want to be a housewife? She said herself to Haytham:
"I once told you that our lives were mapped out for us, remember? ...I was born to serve men, and serve men is what I have done."
And did he really, truly just want her out of his life when she got older? Or was forcing marriage on her a way to ensure she lived in comfort, the way he wanted for Caroline?
And here's the part where we could comment on misogyny -- maybe he felt that he had to protect the women in his family, and couldn't wrap his head around the fact that she could decide for herself. Mary Read and Anne Bonny were pirates he met and befriended. Caroline and Jenny are his family, under his charge.
I think it's a combination of selfish and selfless reasons, of course, but I wish I could have seen what happened while Jenny grew up.
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