#love marvel hate disney

[nerdby]

I'm glad he has the balls to stand up to his incel fans instead of kissing their feet and letting them walk all over him.

"Oh, well what if it alienates the fans--?"

What the hell is more alienating than a bunch of fucking Nazis in fandom??? I'm glad that Anthony Starr doesn't want or care about their Nazi money. The people at fucking Disney need to step up and do the same. Not that they ever will because everyone knows Roy and Walt Disney Sr were fucking Nazi sympathizers.

[sarcastic-salem]

I really wish more than anything that Marvel would make a live-action Cloak & Dagger reboot. It would fit perfectly with Phase 5 & 6, too, cause their origin story in the comics is that they were kidnapped and experimented with experimental drugs that gave them their powers. It would explain the sudden rise of enhanced individuals in the MCU.

Because it makes literally no fucking sense that everyone just suddenly has superpowers now, and its super annoying.

They could also introduce Mister Sinister whose an immortal X-Men villain that’s known for first discovering the mutant X-gene and frankensteining the shit out of people by performing experiments on them against their will. Sinister is responsible for the creation of the anti-hero Archangel — AKA Warren Worthington III. Warren is the disgraced son of the business tycoon Warren Worthington II. If you’ve ever watched X-Men: The Last Stand — do not feel obligated to put yourself through that trauma; just pretend it doesn’t exist like we all do — you’re already familiar with the character. The kid who tried to chop his wings off.

That’s Warren.

But Sinister kidnapped Warren while Warren was a member of the X-Men, did some fucked up shit to him, CUT OFF HIS WINGS (I think — its been a while), and replaced them with completely awesome adamantium wings. Adamantium is technically the strongest metal in the Marvelverse — or it was pre-MCU.

Fucking Disney.

Adamantium has a higher density than vibranium, so with the right amount force it could cut through solid vibranium like a fucking butter. But adamantium is more vulnerable to extremely high temperatures and is virtually useless unless you’re able to melt it down to a liquid form. Because once it becomes a solid adamantium is indestructable.

The differences are explained here.

But, unfortunately, Disney rewrote the fucking X-Men origin story so that mutants aren’t even mutants anymore and the powers they manifest during puberty via the X-gene is a gift from the Celestials.

Yeah, Disney turned the fucking X-Men into a metaphor for creationism.

A deeply offensive metaphor for creationism.

Any X-Men fan with a modicum of common sense can tell you that the

X-Men storyline parallels the Civil Rights movement and the battle for minorities to obtain those rights.

The story is about mutants literally preventing and evading mass genocide against mutant-kind carried out against them by their evolutionary precursors, homosapians — AKA humans with no powers (mutants were dubbed by Erik Lensherr, homosuperior and the name stuck). Its all about an Us vs Them mentality, and senseless violence carried out against minorities.

Mutants are a metaphor for queers, transgender, non-Christian, and BIPOC citizens who do not fit into the mainstream white heteronormative societal norms.

X-Men emphasizes that mutants must be embrace their powers — their personal differences — in order to truly master them. It teaches us that it is okay to be different and it is our differences that make us powerful.

Unless you’re Jean Gray that is and then you get motherfucking DID forced upon you by a holier-than-thou psychic.

And the mutants,

rewritten by Disney, were born from Celestial vomit.

Puke.

In other words, everyone who does not fit into the white Christian narrative was born from a sickness.

[neptunesenceladus]

the marvels is officially the only movie ever. the director knew what they were doing with it and also every designer that worked on it deserves a kiss and a pay rise

[mk-wizard]

“Thor” Speaks Out: We won’t take the hate that you give

First, the She-Hulk TV series’ creators admitted that they made the show with the objective of mocking fans, then Henry Cavill walked out on the Netflix Witcher because he had enough, and now, Chris Hemsworth who is famous for playing Thor in the MCU has had enough and is putting his foot (and hammer) down hard in how he is sick of being ridiculous on purpose.

THIS is what Disney, Netflix and a lot of media have to show making films and series that are not only devoid of love, but openly hate the source material and will create a media based on it just to spite it and its fans. Back when I was growing up, if someone on the set of a movie or show mocked the very piece they were creating and did not take it seriously, they got fired. If you don’t really want to be there and don’t even like what you’re working, then you shouldn’t be there. Now, it looks like insulting the media has become part of the creative process and is even encouraged. And that’s bad.

I admit that even fans laugh at the very fiction they love sometimes because we are not blind to its flaws or silly parts. It is even an art form to sit back and laugh at the silly side of our fandoms hence why we have spoof films like Dracula Dead and Loving it, the famous Naked Gun series, the Lethal Weapon TV series on Netflix, Shaun of the Dead, The Orville, the webcomic 8-Bit Theater and more.

But even then, it was still obvious that behind these parody pieces was a very obvious love and endearment towards the source material. In other words, we are laughing with them together with no hard feelings and we all still love what we love. The creators did not make these films or series because they wanted to make the original material look bad. They did it because they wanted to make us laugh. And even then, they were put together with care and with intent of making something great that all audiences could enjoy.

Now, pieces that are meant to be part of the official lore feel like hate letters to both the original fans and creators. And what do you really have to show for it when you create something with hate, resentment and with the intent to insult and punish the audience? Nothing. All you did was waste your time and made yourself look bad. Not to mention that when you make bad media on purpose, it becomes permanent on your record. Moreover, when you have a chance to work with something as big as She-Hulk, Star Wars, Superman, He-Man or other iconic figures in fiction, it would be wiser to give it your all and make it into something great like Noelle Stevenson did with She-Ra. Even if you aren’t a die-hard fan of the material, it is still honour to be picked to work on it, so it is better to treat it like an honour instead of a joke. And if you dislike it that much, it is better to kindly turn down the job.

The point is that Hollywood needs to not only remove hate from the equation, but to also put love back into the creative process. Too much of Marvel, Disney, DC and now, Netflix are plagued with meanness and hate, and the material is suffering for it. I also truly believe that deep down, these companies don’t want to be hateful or mean to anyone including themselves. They don’t really want to lose their loyal fans and don’t really want to make half-baked films or shows.

I believe that things are going to change and while I admit that maybe it will get worse before it gets better, I have faith. After all, DC, Marvel and Disney have been around long before this new wave of media came along. And it had its bad times before yet braved them. The Dark Knight rose once, he can do it again and so will all the other heroes.

After all, love is stronger than hate. If anything, the fact that these actors are taking a stand and speaking out is a sign of positive change. They are finally saying “no” and if there is one thing I have learned as a parent, “no” has love behind it.

Thank you for reading and as always, stay safe.

-Mary

[bardicious]

I'm DEAD. All things I fuckin hate about lots of Marvel writing in recent years. (Though it's not mentioned in this video - this is about games)

[tangledinourstrings]

weird how all the fnaf fangame devs ppl love to make fun of are the ones that arent killing themselves by pumping out 50000000+ games a second. maybe you guys can actually treat fangame developers like human fucking beings and not crucify them everytime they cancel a project because you think theyre disposable and that you can interact with their creation any way you fucking want even if it violates their boundaries just because its out there on the internet. like i swear yall are so quick to tear apart other peoples work because of your unnecessarily high standards of what a fangame should be even though the original fnaf wasnt even all that impressive by today's standards. none of you have any respect for any of the creators in this community and the ones you do have parasocial respect for are the bigoted ones that get outed for grooming kids and use their platform to send their fans after other people.

[all-that-jazz-93]

Holy shit dude, Peggy haters on this webbed site have the weirdest fucking takes

I mean honestly, talk about willfully ignoring canon to form your own (wrong) opinions about a character...

[cieric-of-chaos]

I miss her so much but I don't want her to come back at the same time :(

Like I am sorry but if the mcu can't fix whatever problem they have right now then I rather have her stay dead than see her get ruin even more.....like I wanna strangle Kevin Feige to death everytime I see any Wanda related update (post-M.o.M) because...come on it's not that hard to fix the horrible writing you did her...like what the fuck were y'all doing...no cause I heard they are doing the witches road storyline??? On Agatha's show(why the fuck does she have a show??)Without Wanda??

[telltaleanatomicalheart]

since i started star wars at like 14, i didn’t really get the full political implications or just the innate tragedy of it. it’s not supposed to be a happy story but there’s supposed to be hope. i always thought anakin wasn’t to blame going to the dark like maybe if he had a different master or wasn’t groomed by palpatine but in reality he was a grown ass man with full jedi training that chose to get married (“in secret” bc i swear everyone knew they was fuckin, they just didn’t want to banish him bc they saw him as the chosen one) and chose to kill younglings and massacre an entire people and kill another jedi and turn to the dark side. even if he had really strong emotions and felt things on an insanely intense level bc of midichlorians or whatever he still had full fledged jedi training to be able to control that and yeah the jedi temple was so corrupt in the way they were just cops with telekinetic abilities and fake buddhists but like HES GROWN. no matter what he experienced it was his choice. he was weak and he chose the dark side. so he is not babygirl. he’s hot. but he’s not baby girl. it was over even before he force choked padme cause he killed them kids he said no more jedi too bad so sad.

i never understood padme’s death tho it was kind of a plot hole to me just she just lost the will to live and just died after giving birth like what????even if she is force sensitive (ALLEGEDLY) that’s still crazy. i think it was soley for the anakin-vader plot so that he wouldn’t think of his actions or to maybe (idk if this was on purpose) justify his actions bc he had nothing left.

also sorry if u haven’t watched star wars yet…i recommend release order and clone wars and rebels animated series. forget about the mandalorian and the “ahsoka” show it literally doesn’t matter.

[enby-soup-computer]

You know what? I love Captain America. He's one of my childhood favorite superheroes, and he remains one of my favorites to this day. He's one of those paragon heroes, one of those heroes who makes every other person around them better, essentially Marvel's equivalent of Superman. And guess what? Cap and Supes have another thing in common; they're both American superheroes fought in WWII before the USA did. I love Cap because he's not representative of the USA, but what his creators believed the country to be capable of. Now I don't think they were right exactly, there's only so much good to be wrought from a country founded on imperialism and puritanicalism and genocide, but I like the ideals. Cap represents the principles of Truth and Justice and Freedom and Humanity and Kindness in the Face of Adversity. He was written by a couple Jewish men to be the hero they needed, and he keeps being the hero we need, just like my favorite Boyscout in Blue. I love Cap and heroes like him for the same reason Death must stand in for the Hogfather in discworld; we need to believe in such ideals, because they makes us all better.

[jewishbarbies]

how did we go from marvel actors and execs really caring about the fans and what they thought of the movies to every actor for a new project facing criticism telling off “toxic nerds” and not giving a shit if those same fans like it anymore?

[butch-bakugo]

Stop babygirlifying Beetlejuice! He's a sleazebal! He's disgusting! He's perverted! He's a rude jerk who'd burp in your face! That's his whole shtick! Y'all are FANONIZING fucking Beetlejuice! If your gonna FANONIFY him, make him a gremlin! That's literally what fanon character archetype he is! He's not handsome! He's ugly ASF! STOPPP

[izzymalec]

just finished lucifer, now all shows i started watching (minus she hulk but fuck that) are finished omg #productivity

[cjgladback]

This is not the first afternoon that I spent crying over raccoons' fuzzy little faces, but it had a lot more explosions than usual.

[artist-issues]

I Hate How She Talks About Snow White

"People are making these jokes about ours being the PC Snow White, where it's like, yeah, it is − because it needed that. It's an 85-year-old cartoon, and our version is a refreshing story about a young woman who has a function beyond 'Someday My Prince Will Come. "

Let me tell you a little something's about that "85-year-old cartoon," miss Zegler.

It was the first-ever cel-animated feature-length full-color film. Ever. Ever. EVER. I'm worried that you're not hearing me. This movie was Disney inventing the modern animated film. Spirited Away, Into the Spider-Verse, Tangled, you don't get to have any of these without Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937.)

Speaking of what you wouldn't get without this movie, it includes anime as a genre. Not just in technique (because again, nobody animated more than shorts before this movie) but in style and story. Anime, as it is now, wouldn't exist without Osamu Tezuka, "The God of Manga," who wouldn't have pioneered anime storytelling in the 1940s without having watched and learned from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in the 1930s. No "weeb" culture, no Princess Mononoke, no DragonBall Z, no My Hero Academia, no Demonslayer, and no Naruto without this "85-year-old cartoon."

It was praised, not just for its technical marvels, not just for its synchronized craft of sound and action, but primarily and enduringly because people felt like the characters were real. They felt more like they were watching something true to life than they did watching silent, live-action films with real actors and actresses. They couldn't believe that an animated character could make kids wet their pants as she flees, frightened, through the forest, or grown adults cry with grieving Dwarves. Consistently.

Walt Disney Studios was built on this movie. No no; you're not understanding me. Literally, the studio in Burbank, out of which has come legends of this craft of animated filmmaking, was literally built on the incredible, odds-defying, record-breaking profits of just Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, specifically.

Speaking of record-breaking profits, this movie is the highest-grossing animated film in history. Still. TO THIS DAY. And it was made during the Great Depression.

In fact, it made four times as much money than any other film, in any other genre, released during that time period. It was actually THE highest-grossing film of all time, in any genre, until nothing less than Gone With the Wind, herself, came along to take the throne.

It was the first-ever animated movie to be selected for the National Film Registry. Actually, it was one of the first movies, period, to ever go into the registry at all. You know what else is in the NFR? The original West Side Story, the remake of which is responsible for Rachel Ziegler's widespread fame.

Walt Disney sacrificed for this movie to be invented. Literally, he took out a mortgage on his house and screened the movie to banks for loans to finish paying for it, because everyone from the media to his own wife and brother told him he was crazy to make this movie. And you want to tell me it's just an 85-year-old cartoon that needs the most meaningless of updates, with your tender 8 years in the business?

Speaking of sacrifice, this movie employed over 750 people, and they worked immeasurable hours of overtime, and invented--literally invented--so many new techniques that are still used in filmmaking today, that Walt Disney, in a move that NO OTHER STUDIO IN HOLLYWOOD was doing in the 30's, put this in the opening credits: "My sincere appreciation to the members of my staff whose loyalty and creative endeavor made possible this production." Not the end credits, like movies love to do today as a virtue-signal. The opening credits.

It's legacy endures. Your little "85-year-old cartoon" sold more than 1 million DVD copies upon re-release. Just on its first day. The Beatles quoted Snow White in one of their songs. Legacy directors call it "the greatest film ever made." Everything from Rolling Stones to the American Film Institute call this move one of the most influential masterpieces of our culture. This movie doesn't need anything from anybody. This movie is a cultural juggernaut for America. It's a staple in the art of filmmaking--and art, in general. It is the foundation of the Walt Disney Company, of modern children's media in the West, and of modern adaptations of classical fairy tales in the West. When you think only in the base, low, mean terms of "race" and "progressivism" you start taking things that are actually worlds-away from being in your league to judge, and you relegate them to silly ignorant phrases like "85-year-old cartoon" to explain why what you're doing is somehow better.

Sit down and be humble. Who the heck are you?

[moldybonessmell]

"Deadpool and Wolverine": queercoding analysis of Poolverine in the movie

// SPOILERS

//Disclaimer: This is NOT a hate post to Vanessa/Wade shipp, but if you ship them, this post is probably not for you.

I've seen a few queerbaiting allegations and, frankly, don't agree with them. Now I'll explain why.

Starting with the fact that movie begins as a typical reasoning for a character to get a new love interest: we find out Wade and Vanessa broke up after roughly 7-8 years together.

Either we don't know (or I just don't remember lol) for how long they've been separate, but it was enough time for Vanessa to get in a new relationship.

And we know that the reason for this breakup is the core differences between the two. In the previous movie they wanted to get a child and Wade's entire motivation was based around Vanessa. In this movie tho, it seems like even if Wade is still not completely over breakup, he seems to be compliant with the fact they are not together anymore. You would expect Wade to go and do something silly to Nessa's new guy, but he doesn't. He respects her decidion.

Wade has more of an existentioal crisis than just hurting from the breakup. So I would assume he's not over because he feels like he messed up and keeps giving sad puppy eyes holding on this romantic relationship with Vanessa. Tho they are still soulmates and friends no matter what.

I don't know about you, but for me this exposition doesn't look like a foreshadowing of Vanessa and Wade getting back together. Vanessa is happy and self-actualised on her own, even if Wade is not.

I don't see Wade trying to change as an act of trying to get back with Vanessa. He reacts like this because his family member pointed out his flaws.

Secondly, the only other "hints" for a relationship between Wade and Vanessa is him remembering how they kissed and in the end Vanessa holding Wade's hand. Which, let me point out, is not a typical trope to show characters are back together. You know what's typical? A KISS! Which never happened btw.

Not to be this person, but we all know Disney/Marvel haven't got the balls to show a canon queer relationship. So the only "hints" for Vanessa/Wade seem to either read as platonic, or purely as an attempt of Disney to be like !look! female love interest!.

Now, other important part. If you really think about it, referencing the first part of the post, the movie follows an enemies-to lovers romantic movie formula:

(optional) breakup with previous partner;

annoyance first (previous deadpool movies);

admiration upon actual meeting (even if Wade acts cocky, when you listen to him telling the story about how his universe's Logan saved Laura, you can clearly see he adores the hero, who, as we know, is relatively similar throughout multiverse. Wade knows this Logan has the same morals as other ones, hearing how he regrets not being able to help his x-men);

"having to" go on an adventure/quest together even tho they are annoyed at each other;

enemies bickering and fighting because they have differences (which are actually similarities between the two which drive them insane when they see this mirroring);

the breaking point and confrontation (the Logan monologue in the car scene);

*the close proximity tention* hate fucking as a spicy way to get over the argument (in the car scene they are shown to fight just for the sake of letting out steam);

the cold period when characters ignore each other because they are still pissed (when Laura got the two to her base);

getting over it and working together, trusting that the other got their back;

saving the world with the power of love brotherhood with romantic soundtrack on;

both staying alive and having a heart-to-heart conversation;

one wants to leave, but the other stops them (usually it would be followed up with a kiss but oh well);

officially meeting a parental figure of one of the characters and moving in together as in an established relationship.

I don't think I'm delusional if I say I haven't seen brotherhood media (ones without queerbaiting or actual siblings) that would follow this formula. But I did see romantic storylines.

All in all, Wade and Logan go through a development and establishment of a relationship. And I'm not even talking about the obvious "one being there when other lost everything and giving them a new family and home".

In the movie there are so many romantic tropes of these CANONICALLY QUEER CHARACTERS, which make it safe to assume that queercoding is in fact happening. I would argue about it if both of them were straight in the source material, but this is the best and most important part, they are not :)

And this is why "Deadpool & Wolverine" is actually a romcom. Thank you for reading!