#miraculous ny special

[how-many-stars-can-you-count]

we don't need anyone's permission to take action

jessica keynes moodboard

[plumsaffron]

RIP for Liiri having the Lucario sealing treatment.

Purely ironic.

Thus another reason kwamis need to be freed.

[bluebelledmoon]

"I wouldn't have minded being stuck here with a friend like you."

redraws of the ny movie!

((with redraws of some of the panels from @buggachat 's bakery au!))

original of the ml ny movie screenshots under the cut:

[frostedpuffs]

i think ive found the worst piece of official ml t-shirt merch there is

[uptoolateart]

I loved the parallels here with the end of the NY special

[iwasbored777]

Post-NY special, Adrien telling Kagami what happened in New York: So I ate this hot dog that makes you float and Marinette did too. And so we were floating up in the air and I took her hand and the two of us were cuddling 😍 and dancing 😍 and holding each other so tight in the moonlight and it was the purest form of friendship 😍 and I have never felt so happy in my entire life 😍, not even when I hugged her on the airplane earlier that day 😍😍😍😍😍. So anyway, how did you spend your time when I was away?

Kagami:

Kagami: I'm f*cking breaking up with you.

[kyuani]

Miraculous is doing something right for me to have been spoiled so much on this season, yet still be genuinely shocked & engaged in these episodes skskksks

[ghostlyhamburger]

Husband Watches Miraculous: NY Special

[does this one have an actual name idk]

OK this is definitely after season 3 because of the box.

Why did they do a Marvel version of the theme? you can't tell me that's not inspired by Marvel.

Okay so they store the powerups inside the thing?

They really tried to go all out with the updated animations didn't they?

Her hair is actually black this time! it looks really good.

Okay that's the first thing that I saw that's super out of character.

Some of these things are textured really well but some are just not. Look you can see texture on her clothes, on the bricks, on the ground, and then BRIGHT GREEN TRASH CAN. It just makes no sense.

This is gonna be a long hour.

Why did they increase Marinette's bust size?

What the fuck was with the way that beard was moving? It's like they didn't want to move the anchor point on the bottom. They anchored it to his shirt is how they modeled it.

Why do they keep changing Marinette's hair color? Why is it darker in the school lighting?

I think I know why this seems so hard to place in the timeline. Its production seems to start at the beginning of season 3 but they definitely got the bible. So they just didn't see all the development Marinette had in getting over her obsession with Adrien over the season.

This whole little bit about Marinette's obsession doesn't need to be here if you've seen the series. Its purpose is only for those who haven't seen the series, which is unneeded because who's gonna watch just for this? It's not a movie. if I skipped the next fifteen seconds nothing would be missed.

When has New York ever been considered romantic? I guess if they watch a lot of American Hallmark movies? But New York is dirtier and dingier than Paris.

They actually made Gabriel look good in this. Like I get how he's supposed to be a silver fox type. He's got a bit too much Justin Bieber face for me, but the hair works for him. I can see how he'd become a celebrity in Paris.

"I'll be keeping an eye on him." If Adrien was a sentimonster under his control, he wouldn't need to keep an eye on him. He could just keep track of him with the miraculous. Like, Mayura was able to track Feast.

Also why is Nathalie in the bed? didn't they fix the peacock? Oh wait she was still super weak and life force isn't easy to regenerate once it's been drained like that.

Oh they've got best girl here.

I think I already see where the entire plot of this special is going. She's gonna be upset at Chat because he's not gonna be there when a sentimonster attacks and she's gonna be upset and debate giving up her miraculous because that's been the theme of the episodes lately and the American heroes are going to somehow be bitches.

[We're only 10 minutes in.]

Gorilla doesn't like planes.

All right so it's not going to work because it's not a sentimonster alert.

How is the eagle going to help you beat Ladybug and Chat?

Marinette, just know when to stop talking, please.

Again, a nice little moment that would be really good.

5 seconds on the plane and she's basically assaulted someone.

Nice use of symmetry and mirroring each other.

Marinette is not having a good day.

Why did they give her such an ass in that shot?

That's actually a pretty good moment.

No. Alya no.

I do like how they call out their weird animation quirks of like. Marinette arms. It's fun.

A convict with a jet engine?

So normal magical and villain type things exist already.

Okay that is just Superman. That's just Superman outfit and Superman theme.

Another thing I don't like is all the infodump. There's a better way they could've introduced Uncanny Valley than Alya's random exposition. She was answering the question of the audience without being prompted to. And it throws me off.

"It's time to show these American heroes how French heroes do it!" NO. NO.

He's not a superhero. That was his entire bit. Also what's he gonna do, endanger everyone by opening up the emergency hatch? You have no superpowers, you have no gadgets, what possibly are you going to do here?

As an introduction, I like this.

It's like they wanted three teachers, one to be nice, one to be crazy, one to be strict, and then they shoved two of them into one character. It doesn't work.

Hot Dog Dan? So he's ... a hot dog vendor?

All right, the dancing is a cute little callback.

Okay I like the new animation style, the very American comic book. but can no one just leave Marinette and Adrien alone? Let them just be awkward together!

Can we get to the catastrophic failure that will lead into the less lovey-dovey shit?

So they're trying to say Lafayette was a holder?

Is that one of the self driving Tsurugi cars?

Wait we've seen the akuma butterflies phase. Why is there no consistency in the rules?

"There's artifacts left by people who unveiled the statue" So there's a miracle box there, right?

Solitude is just Mr. Pigeon!

Doc Ock. Huh. With replication abilities.

Door powers are actually pretty cool.

Now it's finally getting good! Can always count on Hawkmoth to interfere in the right way.

So why is Hawkmoth going after the sabre when the claw thing is very clearly the Miraculous?

Ahh. That's why.

They're still being quite efficient even though they're pissed at each other.

[Aeon is cataclysmed] You have a miracle bomb! It can literally reset people!

That is the smart decision. They don't know each other's identities. Also the American heroes don't have the authority to do that!

I dunno I feel like the reset should have gone through to the other area. When villains have changed in the middle of the episode the reset still works. And when there was the copycat Ladybug she used that one's lucky charm to do a reset bomb. So I call bullshit on that. Also I don't think Paris is still destroyed when we come back to it. So...

"If Uncanny Valley hadn't been a robot I would've caused irreparable harm." Except people have literally died, disintegrated into nothing, converted into energy, and brought back with no issues. So no, it's not irreparable harm. And this is so heavy handed!

The emotional flip flopping here is not great.

[hearing Liiri's ability] That's an incredibly busted ability. Her power is literally limit break.

Why are they having this argument right next to the French students? That just seems stupid.

Let's just steal a bike! oh, safety first

"Adrien I love you" Okay that's just cruel to the people who were watching this.

Yep that's actually what I was expecting.

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY GUNS? Oh right America.

I really like Jess and Aeon's characterization.

Okay I like the skateboard.

This should've just been a movie. It would've been better with time to do all the stuff going on.

Okay that's a neat little trick.

Why does this one hour episode have more musical types than the entirety of the game that came out?

[Ladybug hugs Chat] Okay that was a really cute moment.

Oh is he just gonna launch nukes at everything?

Trading cards, really?

Yeah see Paris is repaired already

"At least let me see what's inside the safe!" It's a miracle box. it's gotta be, right?

I like [Eagle's] outfit.

Was she gonna toss a piano at a pigeon? [Haven't you wanted to do that?] Yeah...

To the sun? To the sun.

Throwing things to the sun is also a Superman reference.

Why do you need more Miraculous? You only need two, and they're not going to help you, you don't have anyone to give them to!

Paris was not like that when they were visiting.

Okay. This should've just been a three part special episode. It tried to shove so much in so little timeframe and over half the thing was just pointless grandstanding about the stupid will they won't they. And I bet that while people loved that Adrien I love you moment, he couldn't fucking hear it and that's the only thing we're gonna get 'cause fuck these producers.

If the pacing was the same throughout, it would've been really good, but it came out of nowhere to the point where they turned up the speed of people speaking to fit it in. A lot of things got super rushed through and I really wanted to see more of it but I know I'm never going to because the producer of Zag sucks!

[tempests-bards-and-birds]

I wouldn't have minded being stuck here a little longer with a friend like you.

[igotthisapptoseefrozen2spoilers]

Everyone always say to remember during the Ladynoir scenes that thats actually adrien and marinette, buT WHAT I WANT TO SEE is someone draw adrienette scenes but them as ladybug and cat noir.

Especially the awkward Adrinette scene

[breakandbuildfiction]

Miraculous-- Purification Power

I’m sure other people have mentioned this somewhere before, but of the many, MANY things that bug me in some way about Miraculous Ladybug (but for some reason I keep watching because apparently I enjoy hating on the show) is that one of the big powers is to De-Evilize/Purify the Akuma Butterflies. Now in itself having to Purify the Akuma makes a degree of sense, but the reason they have to do so only ever comes up once, in a flashback episode that happens several episodes after the premiere episode. Not only that but the definition of Purification is ‘To Remove Contaminants’ and is often done by destroying or neutralizing the contaminant substances if direct removal is too difficult/impossible.

So two things: 1) Why even make Purification a thing if you are never going to make it an issue? Other than Stoneheart Ladybug never fails to Purify the Akuma and then it was only because of lack of information not ability and the Purification action is apparently very easy and foolproof. 2) Why is Ladybug the one with the Purification power if her power is to Create? I can’t help but feel the inclusion of the Purification requirement was just to give Ladybug more importance and make Chat Noir more dependent on her because without Ladybug’s ability to Purify-- a power that in my opinion lends more to the idea of Destruction-- Akuma Chat Noir can not win any fights... unless he refrains from using his Cataclysm for the entire fight and uses it purely to Purify the Akuma-- which adimittingly is an issue that will be resolved when Chat get’s his ‘adult’ powers and can use his Cataclysm multiple times.

So the Purification aspect never comes up and only exists to increase the importance of Ladybug and decrease the importance of Chat Noir and showcase how the two very much are NOT equals no matter what the lore says.

On Another Note: Ladybug leaves Paris twice in the specials without giving her Miraculous to someone else like in Hack-San. One of those times she just tells Chat to deal with Akuma himself and the other... Okay I never watched Shanghai so I don’t know if she knew Chat wasn’t going to be in Paris but I’ll say she did know. In BOTH of those cases what exactly was she expecting to happen? In the NY special she gets mad at Chat Noir for leaving Paris-- understandable since he said he was staying-- but even if he had stayed he’d have been unable to deal with any Akuma or SentiMonsters because the writers decided Chat can’t fight Sentimonsters (the ONE TIME his Cataclysm doesn’t cause physical damage to the target is when he attacks the enemies he should be able to one shot without moral consequence) and he can’t Purify Akuma or Amoks or fix the damage caused by them. Meaning in the NY special Ladybug just wanted Chat to die basically because remember she didn’t even learn of the Sentimonster attack that happens in that special until like, an hour or more after it ended AND she didn’t bring the Horse with her so she couldn’t have gone back to help anyway. It is only luck on her part that Shadowmoth is also in NY and she ends up being in the right place to fight him. Then in the Shanghai special she KNOWS Chat isn’t going to be in Paris DOESN’T know Shadowmoth is going to be in Shanghai himself, and it is only by pure luck for her AGAIN that she didn’t leave the city to be destroyed by him.

Now, if Chat gets his ‘adult’ powerset before the end of the show he SHOULD lose a lot of his dependence on Ladybug for fights as he has more potential to just brute force wins and can take care of the Akuma himself... it wouldn’t happen like that because Astruc thinks that making your female characters competent means making your male characters useless, but logically that’s how it would work.

What do you all think?

[flightfoot]

Just rewatched the New York Special and I must say I was surprised by how different Marinette's reaction to Cat leaving in there and Kuro Neko. How having an established team change her mindset. She goes from "I need him" to "I don't always need him". Although both times has Marinette not understanding the reason why he left, Kuro Neko left me speechless by her assumption that the reason why he left was because he was in love with her despite Cat already agreed to not make any move after Glaciator 2. It's as if she couldn't think of any other reason beside his feelings toward her instead of thinking that it probably has something with their dynamic or outside factor. Sure that seeing the sentimonster make her realize that something is wrong, not by how she treat him but rather by her guardian skill and I'm not sure I understand how she come to that conclusion?

Marinette thinking that Chat left because of her rejecting his romantic feelings isn't entirely crazy, given what she knows and has been told. Keep in mind that this is what Plagg told her, about why he gave up the Ring:

Plagg: Of course not, Cat Noir is the camembert! For a while now, you've been neglecting this camembert— I mean Cat Noir, and going on adventures with the all other cheeses!

Ladybug: But he should be happy about it, it gives him more time off.

Plagg: Cat Noir doesn't wanna have time off, Ladybug! He is in love with you! And your persistent calling on other heroes has broken his heart.

Between Plagg tying Chat feeling neglected to him being in love with her, and the only persistent emotional problem that Ladybug KNOWS Chat has, being his unrequited love for her, it's pretty reasonable for her to come to the conclusion in Kuro Neko that his issues come down to feeling bad about her rejecting him and calling on the other heroes instead, even though that's not actually the main cause.

You also have to keep in mind that, when MARINETTE has some emotional problem that she can't divulge to Chat without hinting at her identity, she can't really suppress those negative emotions. It's still obvious that something's wrong, even if she refuses to say what - we even saw her attempt to pretend everything was fine back in Gang of Secrets. It failed miserably.

She probably assumes that since Chat doesn't display those same emotional issues as obviously as she does, then he must not have any that are all that serious. She has no idea of how adept he is at compartmentalizing his emotions, or why he would've had to get so good at it.

I think she's going to need to learn more about Chat's problems outside of him just feeling bad about his love being unrequited (or so he thinks), and she's going to need to think more deeply about how easily Chat can be hurt, but I see why she came to the conclusions that she did. And once she DOES discover just how bad his circumstances are, and just why his abandonment issues are so bad, she'll do everything in her power to help him.

Marinette doesn't always read people well, and sometimes is oblivious when others do give signs of being in emotional distress, but once it gets through to her that someone's hurt, especially by her own actions, she will do everything in her power to help them. The course of action she chooses in those circumstances still may not be the best one, but she gives it a damn SHOT.

[space--butterflies]

what in gods name is happening over there, why are Adrien and Kagami in solitary

[ck2k18]

Y'all remember when that one dude threatened to start WW3 if two kids didn't cough up their jewelry.

[yueasuka]

Marinette is a bad leader

There I say it...

As a leader, Marinette sure has... some trait that make her not fitted for a leader position. Namely :

Avoidant Low empathy Control freak

I don't care whatever character in universe preach about her being a great leader, the show show otherwise to me. Here some opinion :

Being a leader means she MUST communicate about pretty much anything necessary for the battle, her intend and strategy and also make sure her teamate have high morale. There's no "Follow me and guess what my plan is" and there's no planning behind someone's back, especially if that someone is an active participant in the battle. Being a leader also means she MUST keep your teamate in check, means asked about their well being, listened to their problem and being attentive to their need. She can't just "If you have a problem then good luck with it because I too have a problem" which is an occuring behaviour from her (NY Special, Destruction). As a leader she must put her teamate need first and foremost before her own because THEY'RE HER RESPONSIBILITY. Her avoidant trait make her literally avoiding all of it because she doesn't like "emotional talk". She's the type who's like "let's sleep and hope for all the problem just magically disappear tomorrow". She do this with Queen Bee problem, her delaying telling Chloe that she couldn't have miraculous anymore make Chloe thinking that she's still Queen Bee (her entitlement doesn't help). She do this again in s4 to Chat Noir and continue to do so in s5. Avoidant is basically the worst trait she has as a leader.

Having low empathy is probably not a big problem for a leader except, it is for Marinette. Her having low empathy caused her to make a plan without discussing it beforehand to her teamate, consent and boundaries tend to be forgotten and it is a problem as it make her forget that her teamate isn't just a pion in a chess game, they're human who have feelings and emotions. Her having low empathy make her freely do anything without discussing it before hand or, thinking about people around her. The recent case is her make a rain of rubble to fell down to Emilie's coffin, other cases is her bringing down Eifell tower (the Mime), make akuma destroy Arc de Triomphe (Anansi), and basically any plan that require her to throw Chat Noir to the akuma (Stone Heart, Backwarder, etc).

Her being control freak doesn't really help her to manage her team, which is also part of her role as a leader. Her "Follow me and just play along" is her being bad at delegating the role and communicating her intend, but that also her controlling her teamate so they're forced to focus on her and have no time to improvise beyond what she need them to. Control freak leader doesn't trust their teamate, they seek to control instead of guiding and this is what demoralise her teamate as seen in s4. Marinette control freak nature not only demoralising Chat Noir but also stunted his growth and performance in battle which resulting in LadyNoir conflict, she doesn't listen but people must listen to her, Her being control freak also what lead her to her decision in Ephemeral and s5 final, it has little to nothing to do with her being thoughtful of Chat Noir/Adrien, it's her with her way of thinking that her way is the only one right without thinking about Adrien's feeling. To put it simply, it's her way to control the information. Upset teamate is uncontrollable teamate after all.

That being said, I'm not saying she won't be able to be a great leader. She could, but only if she grow out those trait I mentioned. Try to communicate better, delegating role instead of controlling everything and mosre importantly, remember that her teamate is a human (or person) instead of just a pion. But as for now, I'd say she's the worst leader in the Mahou Shojo genre I've ever watch.

And also... someone can care and love someone else while also hurt them simultaneously, it's not separated thing. Just because she doesn't do it maliciously doesn't mean her action doesn't hurt the other people involved.

[imthepunchlord]

Man, hearing about the season 1 days of miraculous makes remember when we first saw the leaks of the season and first the art for the pearls and stone, Alya with the fox (and how everyone called her Volpina), and Chloe with the bee. Man, those were days. I also remember how everyone was thinking Gabriel had the peacock and Emilie had the butterfly originally. I even remember when we first got that one image of Pixie Girl, and everyone thought she was a teenage Emilie with the butterfly miraculous that was going to appear in a flashback episode 😆. Ah, I miss those days.

Gosh so much is taking me back.

I remember expanded Square chaos. I remember there were theories of Ladybug and "Volpina"/Rena being rivals/antagonists to each other as a reversal of them being best friends + clearly Marinette wouldn't trust the new Fox (which I was never crazy about, especially as you typically didn't see that for Adrien and Nino, felt like turning girls against each other); and QB and LB were going be friendly. And there were speculated shenanigans for QB and RR, I think there was also a small rise of Chloya and the idea that maybe they'd have their own Square going.

Some I didn't see, like the theory that Pixie was teen Emilie, but I did see that she was planned for the NY Special, and there were the plans for the Shanghai Special.

I really did theorize that Marinette and Adrien were going to get their own exclusive Specials to be focused on, with Marinette in Shanghai and Adrien in NY and he for sure was going to work with Pixie.

Another theory I had was where Fu was going to become Marinette's mentor, Gabriel was going to be Adrien's, cause I did like the idea that he had the Peafowl, not Emilie. And I thought this concept art of Duusu was her being furious with Gabriel literally shutting her away.

And something was going to go down and this "Paon" was going to steal the Peafowl from Gabriel.

Or she already did and what Gabriel had was a fake.

And potentially that HM was who Gabriel and Emilie feared and that's why Adrien wasn't allowed out.

Those really were the days. The theories were so fun. And much of it I think was more interesting than what we got.

And it was a time of aus. I don't know how many aus are being done for ML these days, I think most are salt fics now, but that was the time to have fun, do different spins. Doing kwami swaps. Life swaps. Cowboy au.

You could get creative with akumas, like, I remember finding old fics that swapped Marientte with Bridgette and trapped her in a different reality/timeline, and I kinda wish the Paris Special did that. Off topic, but I feel the Paris Special should've gone full comedy and full reversal for characters. And that we actually got to see this different Paris.

Like, could you imagine Marinette and Emonette swapping places, either through akuma or Bunnyx, and Marinette's scrambling trying to figure out how to get back and how to keep going in this topsy turvy world where apparently Ladybug is a villain? "Hawk Moth" is a good guy? Wtf is Chat wearing? Wtf happened to Adrien.

And you got Emonette just needing shades cause this world is so bright and sunny and why do these people keep talking to her? Tf happened to Adrien, was he a poser this whole time? HM's a villain? But of course he's a bad villain just like he's a bad hero. And ooooh she's going to have so much fun with Chloe... and who tf is this Lila and what does she think she's doing picking a fight with Emonette. Oh, she's adding her to her list...

And you could add to it if kwamis were also kinda reversed.

Emonette stuck with canon Tikki trying to get her Marinette back, but also trying to rein in Emonette, try to be that voice of reason and her consciousness, and oh, she's dumping all of Chloe's things down the toilet... she's got her work cut out for her.

Meanwhile Special Tikki is more "pure luck" and is more chaotic and sporadic, she's not outright malicious, but she's just rolling with that neutralness of luck, it having good and bad and it comes down to karma and your own actions. She's just here to sit and watch the consequences play out. Emonette was kinda funny though she was predictable in her karma as her negative actions fed negative consequences. But man, this Marinette is freaking hilarious. Tikki is constantly eating popcorn, enjoying the show cause she never knows what she's going to get with this well meaning if all over the place Marinette.