#niles and martin really are the best

[baronessblixen]

Been catching up on Frasier; and I've been meaning to drop in here and tell you my thoughts on each episode but I get sucked in and lose track of details because I have to watch more more more but Niles just proposed to Daphne while Frasier was clearing the room and tackling the trumpeter and carrying the chef and what it was SO, SO GOOD. (And Frasier being worried he's one year older because his parents married after his mom got pregnant; and Niles already knowing-- both excellent twists.)

Season 9's really been putting out great, great episodes. ...Y'know what? I'll look up IMDb and put some quick thoughts down here because why not???

Don Juan from Hell part 1 and 2: it's been so long since I've seen these two, but I remember really, really enjoying them.

The First Temptation of Daphne Moon-- an intriguing glimpse into Daphne's insecurities and Niles's staunch ethics. It's good to see how they handle rocky moments in their relationship, too.

The Return of Martin Crane-- LOVED THIS ONE. It's so good, every part. (His memories, and the juxtaposition of Niles-- with more hair-- in the past and Niles in the present; and how miserable they all were then and how happy they all are now; and the kiss at the end. Perfection!)

Love Stinks-- I had fun with this one. (Frasier owning up to his snobbery, lol.) Though I don't know if Roger and Roz will last (well, I know they won't; but I don't know if I truly buy into their relationship.) Poor Roz, she keeps trying.

Room Full of Heroes-- again, Marty's speech at the end grabs me. Marty's my favorite, I must own; and that's been growing as the seasons progress. (Niles is second; and I adore their scenes together.)

Bla-Z-Boy-- the CHAIR being accidentally tossed out the window, WOW. Hilarious. XDDDDDD

The Two Hundredth-- I... feel called out. XDDD But, to be fair, at least I'm an archivist, not a sycophant, by nature. ;)))))

Sharing Kirby-- Tisk Tisk Tisk, those Crane boys always shoot themselves in the foot with their greed. Kirby's sloooooowly growing on me. Kenny keeps sinking in my estimation, though-- his comedy doesn't really hit this season, for me.

Junior Agent-- BEBE!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely killer scene, every single one she's in. And her shark replacement is gonna be fun if the writers use her well (I thought the same of Kenny, at first.)

Bully for Martin-- again, loved this episode. The comedy was top-notch all the way through; and it's good to see Marty back on his feet. (and talking, but not complaining, about the challenges of a new hierarchy.)

Mother Load, Part 1 and 2-- It's fascinating to watch how much Niles has grown, and how his growth then highlights (in a good way) how much Daphne still has to go. It makes both of them human. :DDDDD And I liked how the ep. paused to give each main and side character as much depth as possible.

Juvenilia-- This was actually fun; and I love how Roz was sick and tired of Frasier's preening routine at the beginning. Those kids were sharks, man; but they're gonna get far. Kirby's growing on me.

The Proposal-- sweet all the way through. Marty and Niles were standouts, but I'm biased. ;)))) And Marty's excuse to Daphne's mom, and Daphne arriving sick, and Frasier interfering then saving the day by getting all the staff out, and Niles being interrupted from his question by Daphne honking her nose-- hiiiiiiiiiilarious.

Having so much fun! :DDDDDDDD

So happy you're still having fun watching the show! You still have two seasons to go 😁 season 9 definitely has some great episodes. I must admit though that I find Kirby pretty annoying.

Still, Bla-Z-Boy is super funny and I also really love The Return of Martin Crane. The proposal was so cute! He had planned this huge thing and in the end they didn't need any of it. Great season. Much better than season 8 😅

[dhplover]

#OTD in 2001:

Niles: “Hello, Daphne.”

Daphne: “Hello.”

Frasier: “Dad, what do you say we head out for dinner at the steakhouse?”

Martin: “The steakhouse? Really?”

Frasier: “What the hell. The blood's been flyin' through my arteries lately.”

Martin: “Just give me a minute to get ready.”

Frasier: “Right, right.”

Niles: “Daphne, I want to apologise for the other night. I was rude & disrespectful & I'm sorry I hurt you.”

Daphne: “Apology accepted. Oh, come here.”

Niles: “Thank you.”

Daphne: “You know, I was just about to make myself some dinner. Would you like to join me?”

Niles: “I would love that! Actually, wait, Daphne? I'm going to pass on dinner.”

Daphne: “Oh, it's no trouble.”

Niles: “Oh I know that, it's just that... I don't really care for your cooking.”

Daphne: “What?”

Niles: “Well, you're not the best cook in the world. In fact, you're not very good at cooking. At all. Bad, BAD cook!”

Martin: “What the hell is he doing?”

Frasier: “Uh... Well, we're off.”

Martin: “God bless you, son!”

Niles: “You okay?”

Daphne: “How could I be after that horrible thing you just said to me?”

Niles: “Oh I'm sorry, darling. I just want to show you I see you the way you really are.”

Daphne: “And who I am is a bad cook, is that what you're saying?”

Niles: “No, that's not fair. I thought this was what you wanted.”

Daphne: “Well it still hurts! I have got my feelings you know. I thought you loved my cooking. Well, you certainly could have handled this better.”

Niles: “Well then I don't know what you want! I can't read minds, you know! And by the way, neither can you!”

Daphne: “Are you saying you don't think I'm psychic?!”

Niles: “Not if you thought I loved your cooking!”

Daphne: “Well, I'm sorry it's not that hoity-toity crap you eat!”

Niles: “What does that mean? You think I'm pretentious?”

Daphne: “Huh, you'd eat a worm if I gave it a French name!”

Niles: “Well fine! If that's the way you feel, maybe I'll just have dinner by myself!”

Daphne: “Fine! It'll spare you the hell that's my cooking!”

Niles: “I am so sorry! I love you so much! I didn't mean any of those things.”

Daphne: “Yes you did. And I did too. You're a pretentious snob with your wine & your opera.”

Niles: “Well...you NEVER GIVE OPERA A CHANCE! You're too judgmental.”

Daphne: “And you're a clean freak!”

Niles: “Well...I hate your unicorn collection.”

Daphne: “And I hate that your closet is bigger than mine!”

Niles: “Well...you're too tall!”

Daphne: “You're too short.”

Niles: “Well... Oh, Daphne...”

Daphne: “Oh, Niles...”

#Frasier #DaphneReturns #DHPLover

[buffyfan145]

Really like the "Frasier" revival. Caught the 2 episodes CBS aired last night since I don't have Paramount+. I grew up watching both "Cheers" and the original "Frasier", as my parents were both fans, so this was nice seeing where he's at now and reconnecting with his son Freddy who still lives in Boston as a firefighter and Frasier's gotten a job as a professor at Harvard. Also great they brought in Niles and Daphne's son David who goes to school at Harvard and he's a great mix of them both. The new characters a great too and I feel like we have a Niles and Daphne like slow burn ship with Freddy and Eve, and how he's helping her raise her son John (nice shoutout to the actor who played Frasier's dad Martin) who were the wife/son of his co-worker/best friend that died. I know too Freddy's mom Lilith and Roz from the 90s show will be guest staring soon so I'm excited to keep up with it and find out what happens. Though I still miss Eddie and wonder at some point if this show will get a dog too.

[sleepingintheflowers]

I'm sorry that I've been so spammy about Frasier lately but it's back in the zeitgeist that that me thinking about it.

I really do think Frasier is the single best sitcom that ever was or ever could be. Right from the pilot it hits the ground running. There is no bothering with explaining how Frasier got this job in Seattle. We just meet him in-media-res which in my opinion is the best way to do things. No one wants to sit through the schlog of "how". Just tell me where we are and I will run with it.

And from there we have a very clear and very robust cast of characters. There is the main grouping of Frasier, Niles, Martin and Daphne but then there is also everyone at the radio station - Roz, Bulldog, Gil, Kenny, Father Mike, Chopper Dave, etc. The world is very populated in a way that feels real, right from the jump.

And in contrast this is the thing I think the new Frasier series is lacking - population. I like the main cast well enough but the scenes feel very empty otherwise. There is one exception with Freddie's firefighter friends but it just feels desolate when it shouldn't and season one only has 10 episodes.

It also very much did not hit the ground running there was a lot of hemming and hawing and getting Frasier to work and Harvard and for what? If the premise is he works there just start with him working there.

The new series is still very enjoyable for me and I will keep watching but if you are not a Frasier fan already I don't see the appeal whereas I loved Frasier but wasn't a Cheers fan. Do you get me?

[venusleontios55555]

Best Fictional Characters to date (not ranked) Part - 2!

1. Ian Miller (My Big Fat Greek Wedding): John Corbett has portrayed Ian Millers' character fantastically. Perhaps one of the greenest flags in movie history, Ian is a kind and gentle teacher who falls in love with a Greek woman named Toula. Who comes from a conservative but highly loving Greek family. In order to be with the woman he loves, he was ready to be baptised and accepted by her family without hesitation. He also never once berated her or gave up on her family and was the most loving and kindest husband anyone could get. (He is really underrated though)

2. Hua Cheng (Heaven Officials Blessing): My Heaven Officials Blessing's fans know that Hua Cheng is the definition of the word Green Flag only for Xie Lian. This man defeated 33 military gods for Xie Lian, DIES multiple times for this man only to be reincarnated, and is one of the most loving and loyal people in the fictional world. Ps: my favorite quote by Hua Cheng right before he dies again (don't worry he reincarnates is " I am forever your most devoted believer". God, I am crying again.

3. Leo Valdez (Heroes of Olympus): HE DIED TO GO BACK TO OGYGIA! I REPEAT HE DIED TO GO BACK TO OGYGIA! JUST TO SAVE CALYPSO!!!! (From what I remember), THIS MAN IS SO ADORABLE!!!!! I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE HIM. OH MY GOD. (I am hyperventilating send help).

4. Harry Cameron (The Seven Husbands Of Evelyn Hugo): Even though he was not exactly an official love interest. Harry Cameron is the kind of friend everyone needs. He was kind, patient, and understanding and stood by Evelyn through every moment of her life. he even agreed to be Evelyn's beard so she could be with Celia, and he could be with the quarterback he fell in love with John. And (not my words) " their friendship and love was so genuine that at some point it causes Monique to think that the actual platonic soulmates are Evelyn and Harry"

5. Niles Crane (Frasier): Before anyone tells me Niles was creepy... zip it. I know he was a tiny bit creepy. But also remember this was a sitcom in the 90s! It was usually shown as a form of comedy. And considering other fictional characters (as far as my knowledge goes). Niles Crane was the sweetest and the nicest character who wholeheartedly fell in love with Daphne. Even though at the start the audience was led to believe that he only fell for Daphne for her looks... it was not exactly true, as throughout the series we see him pursue her, care for her, and try to make every dream of hers come true. (Like going to England to get her dad). And even when she gained 60 pounds he never even mocked her or taunted her, instead he never even noticed her weight gain or appearance till she fell on the floor and could not get up. This is quite interesting because 90s and early 2000s sitcoms always made it a point to make fun of fat female characters. (Ok now I know Frasier and Martin had made unsavory remarks but this is about Niles's treatment of Daphne). But I did not like the way he treated Mel.

" KEEP YOUR STANDARDS AS HIGH AS THE SKY"

PS: This was just my opinion, I am sure everyone feels differently

[a30somethingslookatpopculture]

Top 10 “90’s” Sitcoms

For this one, I am excluding sitcoms mainly aimed at children (like Nickelodeon stuff. That will be or is already its own list. I am excluding animated stuff for the same reason. And I am focusing on shows that began in the 90s. It is ok if they went on into the 2000s.

1. Friends

Sorry, not sorry. It’s timeless, and is my go-to for holiday specials or any time I need cheering up. I will never hesitate to flip to Friends reruns if i see it playing and I don’t know what I want to watch. Most of us see ourselves in one or more of these characters, know someone like them, or have faced some of the same real-world problems they have. It's heart-warming, funny, and endlessly quotable!

2. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

This is another one that I will flip to anytime I see it on. The cast of this show made it so special, and I especially love how real it got at times. And who doesn't know all of the words to the theme song still?

3. Home Improvement

Tim “the tool man” Taylor is an every man. Not particularly skilled, but knows his way around a tool bench. I love the humor in this show (both vocal and physical). It is somewhat of a nod to classic comedy, with many of the old tropes. The supporting cast is really great as well. I can just feel the 90s oozing from this one every time I watch it. Everything about it screams 90s! And there’s LOTS of plaid, too! I love all of that. I love being reminded of my life growing up a 90s kid!

4. The King Of Queens

This one also takes me back to the late 90s and early 2000s. I crack up so much watching it. Doug is relatable in so many ways, Arthur is a loveable nut, and Carrie’s wit is the best! I especially like seeing who will guest star in each episode. I mean, Lou freaking Ferrigno is their neighbor!!!

5. Boy Meets World

There's not much I can say about this one that hasn't been echoed by 90s kids all over the internet. It's the quintessential show of our generation! Cory and Shawn are friendship goals. Cory and Topanga are among the top couples of our time. Eric's, well, Eric! And Mr. Feeny is the absolute best!

6. Sabrina The Teenage Witch

I have always had an interest in witches and the supernatural. Seeing that in a sitcom was fun! Bewitched did it for the elder generations, but STTW was the one for 90s kids. Melissa Joan Hart just had IT. And Salem is the king of shade and sarcasm!

7. That 70’s Show

The 70s (decade) has always kind of been "meh" to me. But That 70s Show made it seems cooler somehow. I think most of the credit goes to great acting and fun storylines. I found parts of myself in many of the characters. And I absolutely adore all of the pop culture references!

8. Everybody Loves Raymond

I've been slow binging this one for a while now. I always enjoyed it, but binging through it has made me appreciate it that much more. There's not one single person in the Barone family that I don't LOVE. I even find myself struggling to decide who my "favorite" is. They're all so great! It's not too often that you get a show where the entire cast is equal parts witty and sarcastic! The crossovers with The King of Queens are great, too.

9. The Nanny

Nanny Fine has the voice of an angel...just kidding, it’s the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard! But I enjoy the character otherwise. I love that she doesn’t follow rules and does whatever she wants to do. The Will they wont they with her and Max goes on for forever, but it's a fun ride. I like the supporting cast as well. Particularly Niles. He's always on hand with a great insult!

10. Martin

A show where Martin Lawrence plays the titular character? Yes, please! Martin Payne is every bit witty as he is filter-less! Nothing beats him picking on Pam in nearly every episode. Or oftentimes even hurling insults at his best friend, Tommy. And who could forget Tisha Campbell as Gina? She's the perfect counterpart to Martin.

[the-one-where-casey-watches-tv]

Frasier episode 3.13 "Moon Dance"

I came to the 90’s sitcom scene for Friends, but I stayed for Frasier. More specifically, I stayed for Dr. Niles Crane. The best episodes of Frasier are the ones that open with Kelsey Grammer casually ducking out to visit Frederick for a few days, not to be seen for the next half hour while Niles quite literally trips over himself for Daphne. I don’t dislike Frasier as a character, but he’s a lot. He’s yelly and condescending and he’s been around for so long that it’s nice to have a breather from him every now and then. And the rest of the Crane clan has no problem holding their own. The sign of a truly well-rounded cast of characters, when Frasier returns to bookend these episodes, I find myself thinking that I can’t believe how much has happened since he left.

             “Moon Dance” is one of these episodes. I’ve seen it more times than I could count, and every time I find myself shocked that it’s only 22 minutes long; it really is an emotional rollercoaster. Frasier deftly ducks out to take Frederick to Williamsburg in the cold open, yet it doesn’t feel at all offbeat to find Niles in his apartment in his absence- in fact, he’s here to bemoan his lack of a social life. Niles and Maris have separated, and he’s become privy to rumors and photos of Maris seeing other men. Martin, honestly an adorably patient dad, suggests Niles put himself out there and have some more self-confidence.

            The next day punctuates Niles’ extremely social circle: he’s already in the living room when Martin, Daphne, and Eddie return from a walk. He’s practically giddy when he asks his dad if he’s free on Saturday.  Martin can barely get out his “yeah, why?” before Niles blurts out “well I’m not, I have a date!”. He’s taking an acquaintance, Marjorie, out to their social club’s annual dance (“rumors persist about her husband’s death, but hey, a date’s a date!”). Considering it’s the catalyst of the entire episode, the subject of dancing comes up incredibly naturally- of course it would never consider to Niles that he might actually have to dance at this dance (“Maris always hated public displays of rhythm”), and of course Daphne would offer to give him some lessons. Everything that happens in this episode makes for great TV and it’s also really just exactly what all of these people would do.

David Hyde Pierce has said that he didn’t expect anyone to like Niles, but he just has that extra ounce of innocence and integrity that earns him my sympathy when Frasier doesn’t. The dancing lessons start out harmlessly, not that Niles could be anything but. At first, he’s not even having that good a time: “this is boring, yet difficult” (the one-liners just keep coming and they’re too good not to highlight). But of course, after a couple drinks he can’t get enough of this quality time with Daphne. While she runs off to get another CD, Marjorie calls, cancelling their date. Martin apologizes to his son but heads off to bed before he can see Niles, tempted by the close contact of the samba, neglect to tell Daphne that he no longer needs the lessons.

The next day Martin is properly confused, then concerned, when Niles has bought several new CDs for that night’s dancing lessons. In a quick aside, Martin tells Niles that he’s “sticking a fork in the toaster” by spending this intimate time with Daphne, which is instantly met with “well my muffin’s stuck!”. But when Daphne is back in earshot, Niles does the right thing and tells her about the cancelled date. Of course, his strength can only hold out for so long when Daphne offers to go to the ball with him herself. There’s no dishonesty in the situation anymore, and besides, she says she would have a great time.

Cue Frasier’s timely return from his visit with Frederick on the night of the dance. He’s his usual unpleasant self, announcing to Martin that he’s still on vacation and doesn’t want to hear a word from his family until tomorrow. The good news: he’s the butt of this joke, as the doorbell rings and Daphne, dressed to the nines, runs to answer it, excitedly declaring that her date has arrived. Of course, it’s Niles and the two head out, arm in arm, with Frasier’s jaw on the floor. Who could explain the situation? Certainly not Martin, who’s been forbidden to speak to him for the night.

At this point in the story, we’ve had some fun with Niles and Daphne, and Frasier has returned to bookend the episode. It could end here, and I’d feel satisfied, but we still have to go to the dance! This is when the silly and whimsical takes a turn for the emotional and poignant. Niles and Daphne arrive at the dance to many an apologetic look and anecdote about who has recently seen Maris where and with which attractive man. But soon, Daphne pulls Niles onto the dance floor and the fruit of their labor is on full display.

They take it one step further by attempting a tango, something they never worked on at home, but which Daphne insists Niles will love- after all, their bodies have to touch the entire time. Caught up in the heat of the moment, Niles declares that he adores Daphne as he twists and spins her around the dance floor, which at this point is all theirs. He claps a hand over his mouth as soon as he says it, but Daphne responds that she adores him too. Shocked but clearly elated, Daphne and Niles finish what has become an award-winning dance, and even share a kiss on the lips before landing in their final pose. This must be it, right? They danced, they shared some powerful words, they kissed, and it all happened so naturally.

Niles is visibly blown away from the electricity of the moment, sitting down and barely even able to get a word out. They talk giddily about how everyone there was watching them, when Daphne revels over the fact that not only is Niles a great dancer, he’s also an impressive actor. The wind is kicked right back out of Niles’ sails as Daphne explains that they were doing a bit, going the extra mile to get Niles his street cred back amongst his peers. Niles lets this sink in, then, physically and emotionally drained by the most loaded tango I’ve ever seen, decides that it’s time to go.

When Daphne makes a quick run to the bathroom, a female acquaintance approaches Niles and gives him her card- in case he ever wants to go dancing again. Niles is very civil with her and is flattered by the offer, but when Daphne returns, he leaves the card on the table with no intention of taking it with him. Yet, as they make for the door, Daphne praises Niles for stepping out of his comfort zone tonight: “and to think you almost didn’t come. It’s a shame when people let fear stop them from trying something new.” Niles is struck by this, and excuses himself to return to their table and put the woman’s business card in his jacket pocket. In a layered closing line, Niles holds his arm out to Daphne; “I’m ready now”.

I think of this episode so fondly, and it is such a sound reminder that sitcoms can have depth, substance, and heart. And it did it all without its title character! Any time I want to think, laugh, and feel, all in 22 minutes, Frasier is my go-to. And I haven’t even gotten to say anything about the queer undertones that impact the entire show without ever being brought to the surface, so I’m sure I’ll be back another time with much more Frasier.  

[pynkhues]

Have you ever watched Euphoria? Is so do you have any thoughts on the acting on that show? I always here mixed reviews.

I watched the first episode and half of the second one, but really didn't like the show, unfortunately! I might try and give it another go though – I was looking through the nominations and realised I'd actually seen almost everything in the 'main' categories this year, so might try and watch the few I haven't over the next two months before the awards. It's what I usually do for the Oscars, and I love getting a sense of what's being acknowledged and awarded and feeling the stakes a bit, haha.

I've bolded what I've seen of the main categories under the cut if you're curious:

BEST DRAMA SERIES

Better Call Saul (AMC) Euphoria (HBO) Ozark (Netflix) Severance (Apple TV+) Squid Game (Netflix) Stranger Things (Netflix) Succession (HBO) Yellowjackets (Showtime)

BEST ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Jodie Comer (Killing Eve) Laura Linney (Ozark) Melanie Lynskey (Yellowjackets) Sandra Oh (Killing Eve) Reese Witherspoon (The Morning Show) Zendaya (Euphoria)

BEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Jason Bateman (Ozark) Brian Cox (Succession) Lee Jung-jae (Squid Game) Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul) Adam Scott (Severance) Jeremy Strong (Succession)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Patricia Arquette (Severance) Julia Garner (Ozark) Jung Ho-yeon (Squid Game) Christina Ricci (Yellowjackets) Rhea Seehorn (Better Call Saul) J. Smith-Cameron (Succession) Sarah Snook (Succession) Sydney Sweeney (Euphoria)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Nicholas Braun (Succession) Billy Crudup (The Morning Show) Kieran Culkin (Succession) Park Hae-soo (Squid Game) Matthew Macfadyen (Succession) John Turturro (Severance) Christopher Walken (Severance) Oh Yeong-soo (Squid Game)

BEST COMEDY SERIES

Abbott Elementary (ABC) Barry (HBO) Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO) Hacks (HBO Max) The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon) Only Murders in the Building (Hulu) Ted Lasso (Apple) What We Do in the Shadows (FX)

BEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY SERIES

Rachel Brosnahan (The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel) Quinta Brunson (Abbott Elementary) Kaley Cuoco (The Flight Attendant) Elle Fanning (The Great) Issa Rae (Insecure) Jean Smart (Hacks)

BEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY SERIES

Donald Glover (Atlanta) Bill Hader (Barry) Nicholas Hoult (The Great) Steve Martin (Only Murders in the Building) Martin Short (Only Murders in the Building) Jason Sudeikis (Ted Lasso)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY SERIES

Alex Borstein (The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel) Hannah Einbinder (Hacks) Janelle James (Abbott Elementary) Kate McKinnon (Saturday Night Live) Sarah Niles (Ted Lasso) Sheryl Lee Ralph (Abbott Elementary) Juno Temple (Ted Lasso) Hannah Waddingham (Ted Lasso)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A COMEDY SERIES 

Anthony Carrigan (Barry) Brett Goldstein (Ted Lasso) Toheeb Jimoh (Ted Lasso) Nick Mohammed (Ted Lasso) Tony Shalhoub (The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel) Tyler James Williams (Abbott Elementary) Henry Winkler (Barry) Bowen Yang (Saturday Night Live)

[bookish-mbti]

Some Frasier MBTI types

Scott has gotten me into watching Frasier and these characters are satisfyingly typable, so I wanted to make a post elaborating on the MBTI types of the Crane brothers.

Frasier Crane | ENFJ

Frasier’s functional stack is easily readable and because of it, he is a fantastic example of an ENFJ. The outer world and social structures are what defines Frasier’s reality.

Frasier exists in the outer world of established external structures, measurements of value, and social status. He appreciates things that can be thought of as impressive based on external reference, even such as the items he so values in his apartment: “This lamp by Corbusier, the chair by Eames, and this couch is an exact replica of the one Coco Chanel had in her Paris atelier.” He likes things that are socially recognized to be impressive or renowned.

ENFJs also use auxiliary Ni, and as such, Frasier is very insightful and thrives when guiding individuals towards their best path and potential. His radio show allows him to do this on a broader scale with a wider audience, while also allowing him to fulfill his role in a way noticeable externally within the societal structure he values. Fe-Ni tends to work with groups of people such as a classroom as a teacher, and in Frasier’s case, it is his radio show.

Se is tertiary in Frasier. ENJs, though they are not Se dominant, are often very action-based. This advice from Frasier, in my opinion, exemplifies healthy use of an ENFJ’s functions: “Six months ago, I was living in Boston. My wife had left me, which was very painful. Then she came back to me, which was excruciating. On top of that, my practice had grown stagnant, and my social life consisted of... hanging around a bar night after night. You see, I was clinging to a life that wasn’t working anymore, and I knew I had to do something, anything. So, I ended the marriage once and for all, packed up my things, and moved back here to my hometown of Seattle. I took action. And you can, too. Move, change, do something; if it’s a mistake, do something else.”

Tertiary Se is more noticeable than inferior and ENJs may score surprisingly high on Se, caught between their penchant for deriving meaning and passion for making their dreams realities.

Frasier is sensitive to criticism, which comes from inferior Ti. When he is criticized in a column in the Times with the simple statement “I hate Frasier Crane,” he can’t help but feel as though it is an unwarranted personal attack. Ti is a function based in impartial analysis and criticism of structures or methods, completely independent of people and in conflict with an Extraverted Feeling approach.

Further, after he is sold a false piece of artwork, he is infuriated by the injustice, the blatant lack of regard for ethics. His idealism that people are good, respectful, and care for the well-being of others (Fe-Ni) is shattered. He keeps grasping for some way others and systems may help him—first through calling the police, and then by considering hiring a lawyer. When both Martin and Niles say it isn’t worth it and when Martin tells him that sometimes bad things happen in life and there’s nothing you can do, Frasier has immense trouble coping with the concept. Feeling dominants often run into conflict with the approaches of the Thinking functions, which they perceive to be cold, heartless, and, in the more extreme, immoral.

Another characteristic of Frasier’s inferior Ti can be seen in the second episode, when he is still adjusting to his father and Daphne moving in with him. In the case of an inferior Ti eruption episode, Fe dominants become uncharacteristically cold and withdrawn. In this episode, Frasier is perturbed by all of the ways Martin and Daphne have infiltrated the life he worked to build for himself. He is uncharacteristically in a bad mood, seeking solitude, and short with understanding; his tertiary Se is used defensively to defend his uncharacteristic, self-based need for solitude by saying that since the situation isn’t working out now in the present moment, then there is no hope of it getting better and he should change something about it.

Niles Crane | INFJ

Niles’ function stack is also one that is very readable and makes him a great example of an INFJ.

While he is similar to his older brother, there are some distinct differences. Where Frasier’s typical impulse is to seek out others and talk to them, in need of feedback, Niles is more private and withdrawn, mulling over things internally before externally voicing a conclusion. Where Frasier thrives navigating the social world and being a prominent face in the community, Niles considers his radio show “pop psychiatry” and values a more typical setting where he can see patients one-on-one rather than seeking a broad audience and outward recognition. This is not to say that Extraversion and Introversion have to do with sociability or ability to perform in front of an audience—Niles frequently holds group therapy sessions and workshops etc.—but than IFJs and EFJs tend to differ in their natural preferences. EFJs like to immerse themselves actively in a society and have engagement and involvement. IFJs don’t require this external feedback or engagement, and many times like to help others in more controlled, individual sessions.

One example Niles’ Ni is evident is after he and Frasier see their father having dinner with an old family acquaintance. They remember that her family used to be close to theirs until one summer they had a falling out and were no longer acquainted. The next day, Niles arrives at Frasier’s apartment and announces he had been doing some thinking, wondering why their father was with that woman, so he dug up his old childhood journal and an old photo album their late mother had put together. In the journal around the time they remembered the family friends having a falling out, Niles had written that he had seen his father and her in each other’s arms. In the photo album photos from that summer, there were multiple photos with a woman cut out of them. With these things brought to attention, Niles suggests a theory that their father had an affair. This is Ni—seeing something, mulling it over, connecting separate pieces, and arriving at a conclusion. Frasier first strikes down the accusation, saying there isn’t enough evidence. Again, this is Niles’ Ni—the connections he has made are based on internal thought processes, not totally tangible, but make sense in his linear internal logical deductions based on a couple of pieces of evidence. Ni can derive insight and theory based on minimal things in reality and is not dependent exclusively on what is experienced through the senses.

Another example of Niles’ being his type, and perhaps a good example of how INFJs tend to offer advice in general, can be seen in this conversation between him and Frasier in episode 2.

Frasier: Niles, I don’t know what I’m going to do. Dad and I had another fight. I’m afraid if we stay under the same roof together we’ll do irreparable harm to the relationship we have as it is.

Niles: Well, what are the alternatives?

Frasier: Well, if I didn’t feel so guilty I’d, I’d do what I should have done in the first place: just move dad and Daphne into their own apartment.

Niles: Oh, for goodness sake, Frasier. It hasn’t been that long, you have to give it a chance. And you might remember why you moved him in in the first place.

Frasier: Refresh me.

Niles: You wanted to get closer to dad.

Frasier: I still do. There isn’t anything I’d like more, but he makes it impossible. I can’t read my book, I can’t have my coffee, I can’t have any peace in my own home.

Niles: So what you���re saying is, you want to be closer to dad, but you don’t actually want him around. Ask yourself Frasier, have you tried to sit down and talk to him—I mean, really talk to him?

Frasier: Well, I... Maybe I haven’t done my best. I guess I owe that to the old man, don’t I? Well, ah, thanks for the chat, Niles. You’re a good brother, and a credit to the psychiatric profession.

Niles’ dominant Ni urges Frasier to see past the interpersonal rifts and down to the heart of what matters most, which was Frasier’s original goal: to become closer to his father. Conflict that seems unsolvable through talking it out is a trigger to Fe dominants, and as such, it was hard for Frasier to see past it. Niles’ Ni reminds him of the goal despite this conflict, as Ni as a dominant function is more zoomed out and big-picture; while Niles too uses Fe and is people-focused, he primarily views the world through Ni, which sees things outside of the framework of relationships, whereas Frasier’s dominant Fe was stuck seeing only the relationships and the conflict within them and he forgot the original goal. Additionally, Niles’ use of Ni prompts Frasier to point his own auxiliary Ni at himself and remind himself of his personal responsibility and purpose to the situation with his father.

Niles’ inferior Se is noticed more comically, such as how he doesn’t remember meeting Roz even after he has met her multiple times, nor does he remember where they met. Ni is a very internally-based function, and with inferior Sensation, Ni dominants can have trouble recalling concrete information about their surroundings or people they come into contact with in the external world. Another example of an INJ’s inferior Se can be seen when Niles is gripping shortly after his divorce. He begins to date someone completely opposite from his normal temperament and is impulsive, spontaneous, and doesn’t give any deep thought to his actions or the purpose for these actions. He stays out all night, drinks more, plans a trip with his new girlfriend to another country. It is all very out of character for him, which happens when an INJ is gripping—usually notoriously inert and cerebrally-based, they become active and spontaneous in the outer world, over-indulging in sensory activities.

[swearwolf-writes]

Teen Wolf 2020

it’s 2020 and corona is a bitch :) the wolves might not be able to get sick but they still wear their masks bcs they could still be carriers so *clears throat* WEAR YOUR MASKS Y’ALL!! this is very much a no one dies/everybody lives au :)

[CROSSPOSTED ON: AO3]

Scott McCall - age 26

this cute nerd. he studied veterinary medicine which takes about 4 years so he graduated in 2017 and works as Deaton’s partner at the Beacon Hills Animal Clinic. he’s dating Isaac (bcs he came back from France with Argent, remember) and Kira (she came back from the Skinwalkers in 2019 and has a proper grasp on her powers). sorry scalia shippers but it’s not really my thing-

Stiles Stilinski - age 26

NERD. anywho- FBI dork became an agent in 2019 whoo and lives in DC with Lydia, Derek and Braeden. he’s dating Lydia and Derek and things are pretty chill - he yells at arseholes who refuse to wear their masks bcs ‘it’s uncomfortable :(’ like bite me karen no one cares

Derek Hale - age 32

grumpy sourwolf actually knows how to smile!! who knew- he lives in DC with Stiles, Lydia and Braeden most of the time but he and Braeden travel often to fight butthead hunters who need to mind their own business. he’s dating Stiles and he and Braeden are engaged - it’s cute and they’re being dorks about it. he likes to complain that they’d be married by now if it wasn’t for freakin covid

Lydia Martin - age 26

your local genius banshee~ 🥰 still awesome, still a harbinger of death - so yk, the usual. bcs she had extra credits she started as a junior studying maths and graduates in 2016!! 🎉🎉 she moved to DC after she got some money together while working as a tutor - the quartet splits rent (but usually it’s just Stiles and Lydia splitting it bcs the other two don’t technically have jobs and yk Derek is an unsub and Stiles is in the FBI which Lydia finds hilarious). she teaches adults in the local community college and helps supernatural folk on the dl - she runs a grief counselling service at the same place for people who’ve lost someone. she’s also trying to get a degree to become a high school maths teacher and it’s a lot but she’s got it handled.

Allison Argent - 24

accidentally brought back from the dead by the Dread Doctors. everyone could not stop crying bcs she’s back baby!! she died in 2011 age 17 and came back in 2012 so she wasn’t dead long thankfully - wanted to kill Theo bcs he messed with her pack even he did bring her back. she’s a chimera now lads- she needed a kidney transplant when she was young which was why she was kept away from the family business. she was a werewolf-werejaguar chimera like Hayden but stayed a chimera. Chris and Isaac stayed home and bcs she and Isaac never actually broke up, they kept dating - she found it funny that Isaac and Scott were dating at this point,, meanwhile they were panicking wildly :) she went back to school and said she wasn’t dead, just in the hospital for a really long time. she joined Liam’s year and again, wanted to very badly throw hands when she found out about Monroe- she’s the coolest, like she has claws and bow and arrows

Malia Tate - 26

our girl went to France as promised and hooked up with plenty of hot French people *le eyebrow wiggle* she found her beau there in France and it was not a love at first sight sort of thing - she wanted to punch them in the face,, in their very pretty face- she was basically doing her own thing when she smells them, another bloody werewolf and like don’t get me wrong, she’s fond of werewolves, but bloody hell do they cause trouble. and they smell her too and it’s like ‘eh-?’ bcs werecoyotes aren’t so common as werewolves. and they’re just there in a club in Bordeaux and they’re sniffed each other out and they kinda just pause like huh- bcs they were were not expecting to see someone that pretty- but that’s not the point of course- they pretend to leave together and as soon as they’re out of sight from humans, they start fighting in an alley, as you do. it ends up with the wolf tasting the wall bcs who the hell are you- once they figure out they’re both just there to party, things chill and they see more of each other, naturally, it’s all just a big coincidence and doesn’t mean anything. and then they’re dancing and it doesn’t mean anything. and then they’re sleeping together and it doesn’t mean anything. except it does. and they don’t know when it became normal to cuddle or wake up together or have breakfast together but it just was. and when the cute werewolf (who I still don’t have a name for-) plans on moving to the next place, she comes with. the pack are happy for her and they usually road trip from place to place so when the pack comes to visit in Prague? it’s fun to say the least

Kira Yukimura - age 25

she came back from the Skinwalkers in 2019 and she and Allison became good friends. she kept going with school from home and is dating Scott. her powers are strong and when she sneezes bcs yk pollen or wtv, there’s sparks and it’s hilarious and Scott finds it adorable. she doesn’t really know what she wants to do yet and that’s cool of her

Erica Reyes - age 25

they thought she was dead- think again bitch, she slowed her heart rate down so they couldn’t hear and everyone thought she was dead - when the alpha pack got rid of her body and Allison found it, she told her to tell the others to pretend she was dead bcs of the Alpha pack - they beat the Alpha pack but she and Boyd hid with Satomi’s pack while that went down and helped generally after. she kept going with school and bcs she dipped for a while, ended in Liam’s year and eventually became a nurse in 2017. she works with Melissa McCall and joins for family dinner a lot.

Isaac Lahey - age 25

went to France with Chris Argent but kept going with his studies at Chris’ insistence. was dating dating Scott before he had to leave with Chris but they didn’t actually break up,, it was more ‘i’ll miss you :(’. came back to Beacon Hills when Chris came to help with the deadpool business and stayed bcs of Allison and Scott 💞 his studies were mostly uninterrupted and he studied law, becoming a lawyer in 2020!! so at least one good thing came of this infernal year- he wants to specialise in family law.

Vernon Boyd III - age 26

yea no, Derek didn’t mercy kill him bcs he was fine :) de nile ain’t just a river lads he went into hiding with Satomi’s pack and came back when the Alpha pack was dealt with. went back to school and ended up in Liam’s year. he joined the air force when he was 18 and finished his rotc training stuff in 2018 and it’s pretty alright - he’s a pilot but was discharged in 2019 bcs someone started with him and bcs they were a superior, he couldn’t say shit. so now he likes to wear ‘fuck the army’ and ‘fuck the air force’ shirt. he has mad respect for the people out there but the people in charge? fuck em

Aiden Steiner - age 27

he lives bitches 😎 Ethan had a silver chain on so he plugged the wound with it - it counteracted the oni poison and the chain started melting into the would (he had mild silver poisoning but he was fine). school was normal and now he’s an engineer, living in Beacon Hills. he and Ethan left for London for a while bcs that town was crazy af. while Ethan was very happy there, he missed home so went back. he got an online ordination and learnt Japanese bcs why not

Ethan Steiner-Whittemore - age 27

got married!! whoo 🎉🎉 Aiden officiated (this is 2018 btw) and it was cute. the whole pack was there and the wedding was in London bcs as quaint as Beacon Hills is 

‘i’m only planning on getting married once so this is gonna be awesome’ - Jackson Whittemore, 2017

he’s dramatic but yk Ethan was a blushing mess bcs ~life partners~ he’s soft y’all. he’s a primary school teacher in London and they’re part of the South London pack.

Jackson Steiner-Whittemore - age 25

also got married!! whoo 🎉🎉 ngl he’s lowkey a trophey husband/sugar hubby bcs he’s rich af - he does business with his dad but it’s not a big workload. he and Aiden want to adopt and yk being rich will hopefully help

Theo Raeken - age 25

ah yes, the absolute nightmare bi enby returns. (i hc him with he/they pronouns ✌🏽 as you do) so he successfully gained Scott’s trust and is part of the pack - yay! he and Allison have a sort of ‘you’re a bitch’ ‘no u’ *saves each others lives* relationship at this point - it took a while for Allison to warm up to him but he did save Liam’s butt several times so,, anywho, he’s still a werewolf-werecoyote chimera and he’s cool with it. he went to an online school and got his high school diploma - Liam then snuck him into the school and he signed the bookshelf bcs yea he didn’t graduate there but he did go there and now he’s graduated so yay. speaking of, he and Liam are dating, yea ik we been knew. they started dating in 2014 and Theo now works waiting tables at a local restaurants bcs he lives with Liam and his parents (you best bet that when they found out he was living in his car, they made him move in so he pays rent, not at their request but his). that was till 2017 and they moved out into an apartment together. Theo chips in on rent but it usually ends up being split 60:40 (Liam: Theo) so he cooks and cleans a lot,,, mainly bcs Liam can’t cook and does laundry like a maniac-

Liam Dunbar - age 24

this werepup is just as chaotic as always - he cannot be trusted with laundry bcs he doesn’t split colours from whites :) honestly it makes me wanna cry a lil bcs he can’t even fry eggs either- he has Theo to cook for him tho so that’s all good. he’s a history tutor for the high school students bcs he likes history and he knows the pain of high school- *shudder* he got an online Spanish and TESOL (Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages) degree and is now teaching at Beacon Hills High but yk his first year teaching is all online bcs 2020-

Mason Hewitt - age 23

he’s Emissary to the pack when they don’t have Deaton *wipes tear* he’s all grown up- he went to UCLA and majored in biophysics and minored in LGBTQ studies (graduated 2017). he lived on campus (kept the bat next to his bed lmao) and videochatted with Liam almost everyday - he would visit almost every weekend even tho it’s a 6 and half drive but hey. he got an apartment near the uni where he and Corey lived after he graduated. they’ve been engaged since 2018 (it was actually the day after the Steiner-Whittemore wedding). he’s helping work on a new drug delivery system and they moved closer to Beacon Hills (Sacramento)

Corey Bryant - age 24

he also went UCLA, studying comparative literature and LGBTQ studies, and lived on campus (for 3 years before moving in with Mason in 2017) before graduating in 2018. they’re engaged and moved to Sacramento. he’s writing a novel that will thankfully have nothing to do with their confusing ass lives

Cora Hale - age 28

lesbian queen *bows* still part of her pack in Ecuador, South America - she’s got a lady lover who I call Rosa (affectionately nicknamed Rosalita). they met when she first got there age 12 (Rosa being 13 at the time). Rosa taught her Spanish  and made her feel like part of the pack - after all the Alpha pack stuff, when she went back with Derek and Peter, she didn’t realise how much she’d missed them- how much she’d missed her. Derek asks if that’s her girlfriend and she’s like ‘wha- o.o’ and Rosa just goes ‘yup - nice to finally meet you guys’. she still visits DC to see Derek and Beacon Hills to see Erica and Isaac. even tho she lives in a different continent, Peter still looks out for her, sending anonymous donations in Talia’s name to the areas surrounding her pack’s territory

Brett Talbot - 24

*singsongs* ~he did not die~ the car swerved out of the way and the pack took him to Deaton who burnt the poison out of him (it was a long and painful process but he’s fine y’all). he’s the new lacrosse coach at Devenford Prep and he and Liam have a (mostly) friendly rivalry :) he’s a single pringle not bcs of lack of dates but just bcs he hasn’t found the one yet

Lorilee Rohr - age 22

also did not die :) she finished high school (2015) and went on to studying at UC Berkeley (art practice and theatre and performance studies, major and minor), graduating in 2018. she and Brett moved once he reached age 18. she makes and sells art from home

Nolan Holloway - age 25

after proving himself, same as Theo, he was eventually accepted into the pack. he and Gabe were dating and that’s that so he did mourn him for a long while. he works with hunters on the dl, trying to stop them hunting the supernaturals - he’s flipped 23 away from the dark side by 2020. he and Liam are friends which took a while but Nolan has his back (like there was that one time someone from the lacrosse team said they weren’t gonna ‘follow some mongrel’ so he reminded them that Liam was co-captain and if they didn’t wanna follow him, they could kindly fuck off :)) he’s a simp and has a raging crush on Brett like me too bruh

~the end~ for now

[dhplover]

#OTD in 2000:

Martin: “Daph, I'm glad you're here. I was thinking about that wine of Morrie's. You know, that's something really for a special occasion. So, I'd like you to have for the wedding, enjoy it on your honeymoon.”

Daphne: “Oh, Mr Crane!”

Martin: “Oh Daphne, come on. Come on now, it's only a bottle of wine. I don't even know that much about it. Frasier? Help me out here, will you?”

Frasier: “Well Dad, Chateau Petrus is a premier crux Bordeaux…”

Martin: “No, no, no. I mean with l Daphne. There you go.”

Frasier: “Oh, Daphne.”

Daphne: “I'm sorry to get so emotional like this.”

Frasier: “It's alright. The funeral must've really upset you.”

Daphne: “It's not that. Dr Crane, I've wanted to talk to you about this all week, but I haven't known what to say. You promise you'll keep this just between us?”

Frasier: “Of course.”

Daphne: “It's about your brother. You see, I know.”

Frasier: “Know what?”

Daphne: “I know about his feelings for me.”

Frasier: “My God! How did you find out?”

Daphne: “It's not important.”

Frasier: “Somebody blabbed, didn't they? Why can't people just mind their own business? Who was the nattering gossip? Roz? Dad?”

Daphne: “You.”

Frasier: “What?!?”

Daphne: “You were taking those pills for your back & you blurted it out while I was giving you a massage.”

Frasier: “Oh well, they were very strong pills, you see…”

Daphne: “Needless to say, it completely took my breath away. At first I tried to forget about it, put it out of my mind.”

Frasier: “Well, the bottle said just to take one but I'm a big man…”

Daphne: “Oh will you shut up about those pills?!”

Frasier: “I'm sorry, Daphne.”

Daphne: “Anyway, after a while I couldn't put it out of my mind anymore. I find myself thinking about him all the time.”

Frasier: “Daphne, are you saying that you have feelings for Niles?”

Daphne: “I think I do. Oh, I don't know! Even if I did, he may not feel that way about me anymore, he's with Mel now!”

Frasier: “I don't know what to tell you, Daph. I think the best thing is for you to try to find a way to talk with Niles.”

Daphne: “That's not an easy conversation to have.”

Frasier: “It's easier now than after you're married.”

Daphne: “You're right. I have to talk to him. And right away. I'm already making myself sick over this. If I leave it any longer I'll be a complete basket case. Did he happen to mention if he was going home?”

Frasier: “Well…actually…he's going…somewhere else first.”

Daphne: “Where?”

Martin: “Get you some towels & you'll be all set down there.”

Simon: “Right.”

Martin: “Oh geez, Daphne! It's just a bottle of wine!“

#SomethingBorrowedSomeoneBlue #Frasier #DHPLover

[daphnemoon]

Favorite non-niles Daphne relationship? :)

Romantic? Or in general?

I don’t really have strong opinions on the romance. Like I’ve said before, I have Frasier and Martin love interests that I like, but I don’t feel that passionately. For non-canon ships, I like Lilith/Roz and Frasier/Cam Winston. On Cheers, I love Sam/Diane and again for non-canon ships, Lilith/Diane and Lilith/Rebecca. 

For platonic relationships, I love everyone...? But my favorite characters are Niles and Lilith, so I love their dynamic as well as Niles and Roz. And obviously the familial core Crane dynamics. 

Lilith/Frasier is weird for me in that part of me ships them because they had cute moments in Cheers, but they also had a lot of bad moments. Overall, I do think Lilith deserves better, and they work best as a divorced couple who still care about each other and have moments of wistfulness. 

[filminvasion]

Top 10 List

I’ve been doing a huge watch through of many films from the 80′s and I actually just got done watching everything i’ve wanted to watch from the year 1989. Here is my 10 Best. New reviews will be coming soon so be sure to follow to keep up with those. Much appreciated. 

Honorable mentions: Field of Dreams, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Casualties of War, Sex Lies and Videotape, Parenthood, Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, Say Anything, Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Born on the Fourth of July, The Bear, My Left Foot, Roger and Me, Vampire’s Kiss, Fabulous Baker Boys

10. War of the Roses- One of Danny DeVito’s greatest successes as a director and he deserved this one. A dark comedy on divorce, this re-teaming of DeVito with his “Romancing The Stone” and “Jewel of the Nile” co-stars Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner starts out funny but gets viciously savage by the end. 

9. When Harry Met Sally- Doing a total 180 from #10, this is simply the best romantic comedy ever made. Nora Ephron’s dialogue is fast, witty, and I never feel more like a mush mouth than when I listen to it. Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan are great together, Ryan especially for reasons that are all too apparent for anyone who’s seen the film 

8. The Abyss- Ed Harris and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio are perfect together in what is the real, best, romance that James Cameron has ever created. But more to the point, this is a claustrophobic, tension-filled, underwater delight, the best of its kind by far, holding scenes that put me in rapt awe every time I watch it. The ending is still not great and the aliens don’t really help but this still holds Cameron out as the special talent he is. 

7. Crimes and Misdemeanors- A cynical tale from Woody Allen that gets two great performances, not only from himself but from the even better Martin Landau, who gets a whole storyline in examination of morality and is never not compelling in it. Allen gives himself the funnier role. Alan Alda, Jerry Orbach, and Sam Waterston also each have pivotal roles and are phenomenal in what is a flawlessly written, honest look at humanity. 

6. Heathers- A great dark comedy, if not the best of all time, which satirizes that weird time known as high school where popularity is key...and can be a real killer. Winona Ryder and Christian Slater are both great in it- a sure fire classic of the High School genre. 

5. Lethal Weapon 2 and Back to the Future 2- I put these two together because i’m weak and this was another really outstanding year but they belong together, both really build on the greatness that came before- the plots feel very fresh, the humor in both cases is done with much more ease this time around, the characters continue to grow, and both definitely know how to thrill. 

4. Little Mermaid- The start of something grand- leading Disney into the 90’s with a blend of new animation techniques, outstanding music, and some of the best and most urgent story-telling the studio has ever created. 

3. Batman- Pound for pound still a wonderfully dark and gritty take on the Batman character- from the production, make-up and costume design Burton has made something beautifully gothic here, despite not proceeding exactly according to lore, and he couldn’t have done better than Nicholson and Keaton in the lead roles. 

2. Do The Right Thing- Though hard to find the clear message, Spike Lee creates a pivotal and volatile piece of work that asks good questions in the hopes we can see all the differing viewpoints he presents here. That’s why this is still the best film ever made about race relations in this country. 

1.Glory- Powerful from first frame to last, everything about this film is worthy of utmost respect, from a story of pride and sacrifice, to incredible battle sequences (especially the finale march on Fort Wagner, which is one of the bravest things ever captured on film), to the riveting performances, and James Horner and The Harlem Boys Choir’s soaring, patriotic, and beautiful musical score- certainly in the top 5 ever produced. I feel moved and filled with deference every time I watch this story play out and i’ve maybe watched it a hundred times over the years. One of the best war movies of all time.

[fightingbymoonlight]

So I watched the old guard with my brother and aunt...

and, well,l I now know the answer to what happens when you watch a movie with two stoned  (and later 3) people. Also between the 3 of us I was the only one who had seen the movie, and they both knew it

Guidelines for who’s who:

B= my brother, a college student and fellow queer disaster

A= my 70 year former hippie aunt (she’s the reason there was weed)

me=me

    So we start the movie....

A: I have no idea what’s going on

me: That’s cause we’re only 5 seconds in.

 *Booker rides to Andy on motercycle*

B: Shit, is that a bad guy?

me: 😬

B: so his name is Booker?

me: unfortunately, yes.

*they go to the hotel, Nicky hugs Andy*

A: Oh cute, they’re a couple.

me: Nope. (internally: Someone please give me a 5+ fic where everyone thinks the two of them are a couple for ridiculously hetronormative reasons.)

We reach the scene where they talk to Copley and both of them freaked out because they thought Nicky was gonna shoot him with his sniper gun.

A: Why are they considered the best?

Me: Well.... you’ll find out.

        *1 fight scene later- the team dies*

B: Are- Are they dead??

Me: It’s a bold storytelling choice, I’ll admit.

    *the team comes back to life*

*cue my family losing their shit*

later

A: Wait!? If they’re immortal why did Andy need for them to take a year off?

Me: Would you want to be shot at for enternity? 

B: LET THEM REST!

cut to Afghanistan

B: Meanwhile in a military propaganda film...

Me: there’s going to be a new immortal

My brother immediately likes Nile, so naturally he thinks she’s too good for the military. 

*Meanwhile back on the train- Joe and Nicky are cuddling*

B: (whispering)are they gay?

me: (whispering) yes.

B: nice.

*Andy jumps off the train to go find Nile*

A: the perks of immortality

*cut to Merrik giving a douche ted talk*

me: that’s our bad guy

B: I hate him already

  *back on the base*

A: How the hell did she get on the base?

Me: movie logic

*the plane fight scene, beautiful, perfect, 10/10*

neither B nor A had any idea what was going on

*meet the family, Nile asks questions*

Me: there now you get exposition, so stop asking me things.

My family’s reaction to Quynh’s fate

They stayed like that for 5 minutes.

*church fight scene*

A: (literally the same time as Nile) What’s the signal

B: *laughs at the explosion*

me: ( same time as Booker) that’s the signal.

*the van scene Joe delivers the iconic speech, Joe and Nicky kiss*

B:

A: Wait... are they a couple?

Me:

Me: if they weren’t before, they certainly are now.

*Nicky: there’s a tv Joe!

Joe: Champagne?*

B: I love them!

*Merikk stabs Joe* 

B: Fuck you!

*Booker reveals his tragic backstory*

A :(has her hand over her heart) Poor Booker

Me: (flashes back to the discourse, starts hearing the jaws theme, grabs the blunt and inhales deeply)

It literally took ten more minutes for the two of them to realize that Andy’s mortal now. I almost slammed my head on the nonexistent coffee table.

*Back in the lab Joe and Nicky talk about “that time in Malta”*

 B: please tell me that the cute gay couple doesn’t die.

Me: Um, technically speaking.....

B: Oh my god [name] really?!

Me: *laughs in a non maniacal way* 

*Nile tells Andy she’s going back to her family*

A: No! They’re your family now!

Me: I know what you mean, but she needs time to adjust.

*Booker shoots Andy*

A: Booker!! NO!!

B: called it! (btw no he didn’t)

*Copley shows Nile his knowledge board, reveals his own tragic backstory*

B: So, he turned them over because his wife died and then became a conspiracy theorist.

Me: Yep, our villains include a conspiracy theorist, a homophobe [Keane], and Martin shkreli. 

B: This is my kind of movie.

*Nile tells Copley to leave then enters the elevator*

A: Don’t go in alone, he can still help.

Me: He can die Aunt [name]

A: Oh, right, I forgot.

B: that’s a hell of a thing to forget.

*Joe briefly yells at Booker because he, you know, arranged for him and his husband to be kidnapped and tortured*

A: Oh, no, don’t be mean to him.

Me: (at this point I’m high, and have dealt with too much internet shit) Oh my God, he was kidnapped and tortured, give him 5 minutes!!!

A: fair enough....

*cue my brother’s favorite part of the movie*

Me: (whispering to B) me and those three men will keep you sake

B: (starts laughing)

*Later*

B:

*Andy starts killing men with an axe*

A: Now we’re talking!!!

*The team decides to go for San Paulo ‘34*

B: What happened then?

*Joe: does *that**

B: I love him

*Nile tackles Meerik out of the building

Me and my brother: *clapping*

Booker: [Nile] you’re going to be great for the team

A: THey might need you too Booker!!

Me: KIDNAPPED AND TORTURED AUNT [NAME] KIDNAPPED AND TORTURED!

B: Yeah, that’s not something you get over in a day.

*Copley joins the team, movie sequel baits*

B: please tell me there’s a sequel

me: not yet

B: damn it

*Quynh shows up in Booker’s apartment*

My family: THANK GOD!

Bonus: After the movie ends

(my aunt has left the room to make her dinner, it’s 4:30 pm)

Me: My theory is she [our aunt] is only forgiving of Booker because she thinks he’s hot

B: Yeah, you’re probably right. 

[echoazure]

rules: tag people you would like to know/catch up with

Thanks @starlit-pathways for tagging me, you’re super cool and i always love seeing your posts show up on my dash!  Also, I feel you on not vibing with a movie but appreciating the color scheme.

last movie: Santa Jaws.  A family is hunted by an evil Christmas-themed shark.  At one point it grows a candy cane horn that it uses to impale its victims.  Just a very bad and joyful movie.  10/10, would watch again.

currently watching: I haven’t started anything new in a while, so these are both rewatches:

Frasier.  I watched this for the first time when I was a little kid and it’s become my number one comfort watch during the pandemic.  It’s very funny, the laugh track is oddly soothing, and I know it’s not going to stress me out.  There are a lot of interesting threads that never really get dealt with, so it’s fun to brainstorm how my version of the show would have handled them (martin and cora get married! more scenes of roz and daphne hanging out! lesbian niles/daphne!).  Love that dog and whatever David Hyde Pierce is doing as Niles.

For All Mankind.  I’m a sucker for alternate histories where things turn out better, and for repressed female characters hiding a deep well of sadness, and also for things going wrong in space.  This is a drama where Russia beats America to put the first man on the moon, starting a chain of events that causes America to recruit women as astronauts a decade before they really did.  There are a lot of really cool female characters, and the acting is great all around, though Shantel VanSanten from The Boys definitely gives the performance that hits me hardest. 

currently reading: How Much of These Hills Is Gold by C. Pam Zhang.  It takes place in the 1800s and follows two Chinese-American siblings who set off across California after their father’s death.  The language is so vivid and memorable, and the relationship between the main characters is drawn so well.  They’ve been driven apart by a society that won’t make space for them as they are, and as much as you wish they saw each other better, you understand why they can’t.

currently craving: I used to live off of garlic rye chips and while that was perhaps not the best choice, I’ve really been craving them lately.  garlic is the most important food group imo

I always get nervous about tagging people, so anyone who wants to participate, consider yourself tagged!