Wait what is the antonius tertius vs olmos drama i need to know more about it, ,,,,,,
Alright sorry for the wait @swallowtail-ageha! I was working away at this in muh drafts.
Here’s the basic run-down lol.
So, back when Elden Ring was still pretty new and people were digging into all the weird-ass lore and development, the soundtracks were starting to be scrutinized too, and lemme tell ya, the misinformation was rampant.
There were people I got into debates with over production who were like “ayo this soundtrack is all fake samples/keyboard created” lmao, which I was up in arms about because seriously the only Souls OST that was literally 90% sample libraries was DS2, but anyway, MOVING ON.
This guy called Daniel Olmos on YouTube popped up and started making lyric vids. There had already been some people making “fan-translated” videos where the creators fully acknowledged that they were basically making lyrics up by ear. If I remember right, half of it was just gibberish.
But then Mr. Olmos showed up and presented his vids differently. According to him, he was accurately translating to the best of his ability because he, and I quote, spoke Spanish and could thereby understand the extremely dissonant, chaotic slew of “Latin” lyrics in every ER boss theme. AND, he could translate it into near-perfect English. So he like. Just started posting “translations” without any specific notice about his process and garnered thousands of views. His most well-known was his Godskin Apostles vid.
It got way out of hand too. I was watching from a distance and was kinda concerned like “Umm, people are just taking this guy for his word and uhhh….”
BUT THEN THE ARTICLES CAME! And oh god, I still remember the headlines being like, “HIdDEn LoRE iN ER lATin LyRicS.”
“GODRICK CALLED MALENIA A “BITCH”” (we’ll get to that)
BLATANT and UTTER misinformation casually being published by actual game journalists who didn’t realize Olmos was making the majority of this shit up and that there were literally no lyrics to be translated. So much of what he even said the lyrics were didn’t sound right or line-up anyway, but I was like…well, I guess I should just let this play out?
Oh and, to make things even better—this was around the time when the Malenia hate was at an all-time high, so when Olmos conveniently “translated” the so-called lyrics to Godrick’s theme, he included a line where the choir screamed in “BITCH” in so-called Latin, which was apparently a line meant to represent Godrick’s hatred towards Malenia after she kicked his ass.
You know. The type of lyrics FromSoft likes to have in their songs.
Needless to say, the Malenia haters were having a fucking field day.
“Omg based chad Godrick”
ANYWAY—
Then there was Tertius, whom I kind of befriended on the sidelines because he was uploading very chill and informative videos + he made some banger music, especially covers of Bloodborne songs and the like. Anyway, he posted this vid on Malenia’s theme that I found and immediately I could tell he had done his research. He’s a Latin student and a bit of a journalist…I mean, he investigates and digs for direct information from specific sources and writes about what he finds with permission so….independent or no, he follows through with his research.
We were both young journalists so I just clicked with the guy and tried to support him. He had been talking directly to the people that had been involved in the Budapest Film Orchestra that performed the ER pieces and some of the music producers, I believe. That’s when he confirmed that the lyrics were computer generated “Latin syllables” that ultimately meant nothing. It was just to give the choir something to work with that also sounded cool.
This is actually really common in the video game and “epic” music world, so it didn’t surprise me, but it was a little disappointing, and I am fairly certain that’s why there was so much chaos afterwards.
Because Tertius started trying to spread the word, particularly on Reddit, where Olmos was ALSO active and trying to share his vids. Tertius had that classic “good journalist” streak that had him fully combatting any and all misinformation he came across, which I relate to, but maybe it was just the way he did it, because the Olmos Squad was pissed bro.
Tertius had receipts of his emails with the musicians and producers, he had pretty solid evidence for his claim, and dude…just listening to his own “lyric” vids, I could hear the choir chanting the syllables so much more in the clear in comparison to Olmos’ stuff. It was uncanny.
But nah, Olmos and the Redditbros weren’t having it. They just brushed him off and said he was being obnoxious + that his videos were bad because his mic quality was low and his accent was hard to understand -_-
A+ guys.
Olmos was just defensive mostly and thought he was just being attacked. So, of course he refused to acknowledge the misleading nature of his vids and the fighting went nowhere. It quieted down a bit after that, but Tertius was rightfully upset. He had totally expected people to be delighted to hear the true story behind the ER themes, but of course they were just disgruntled and thought Tertius was just trying to dismantle Olmos. Lmao, it was so stupid, man.
Also, it didn’t help that Olmos was gaining subs and views at a rapid pace while Tertius was seriously falling behind. It was clear who had more support. At that point, I felt like a loudly cheering fan in a crowd of three on Tertius’ channel while Olmos was hosting a stadium lol. It was bad.
But then guess who fucking fixed it. ME.
Okay, I’m kidding—it wasn’t all me, but basically I found Tertius commenting under one of Olmos’ vids and he was pissed like:
“Dude wtf, I was trying to share the TRUTH and you sic’d your following on me and silenced me and that isn’t fair, bro. You are sharing false info. Just say these supposed lyrics are fan-translated!”
Enter Olmos:
“Dude, I speak Spanish and study Latin, so I am only translating what I am hearing. There is no false info here. Why u attacking meeee”
(Can you tell I’m paraphrasing?)
Anyway, then I interjected and if I remember right, I basically told Olmos (?) or maybe one of his fans that had butted in to cut the BS and just let people know the truth because there were actual articles being written about this shit that was really just basically fake and that Tertius had literally contacted inside sources that SENT him the transcripts of what the computer had generated for the choir.
I was basically yelling “Hey uh….THIS IS A PROBLEM AND EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS OUT OF MALICE, YOUR NEW FANS ARE TAKING YOU AT YOUR WORD AND BELIEVING A BUNCH OF FAKE STUFF ABOUT ER’S MUSIC.”
And then, to my absolute bewilderment, Olmos actually…listened to me? He literally was all “No, you’re right. I’m sorry. I was being misleading.”
Then he literally turned and apologized to Tertius for everything and they got all buddy-buddy in that fucking comment section and Olmos put “fan-translated” in the title of all his vids and ultimately made a bunch of them private or whatever, so now his channel is just a ghost of what it was. He still has tons of subs, but he almost never posts and his old ER vids are all gone lmao.
Tertius went on to keep making videos and then all those old articles about hidden ER lore in the Latin lyrics have since been replaced with “ER’s Latin lyrics are all gibberish” and the OG articles have “UPDATE: These lyrics have since been revealed to be inaccurate” in their taglines.
So, the world has healed, the butterflies and flowers came back, and all is well.
Dude, this whole fiasco was actually so funny to me when it ended though, because the stupid-ass power of friendship and YouTube essay comments conclusion literally had me laughing for a whole day afterwards. You had to have been there, but it had been a couple weeks of this stupid online drama that revolved around misinformation and debate on Latin translation and Reddit rage was actually aggravating to watch happen in real time. The actual false journalism too like??? It had gone beyond the confines of Reddit.
I was just glad Olmos quit while he was ahead, because the truth was coming out and he could have had a much bigger downfall than just a bit of humbled admittance in the comment section of one of his own vids. I was pleasantly surprised. He was actually pretty cool to me even though I had called him out.
(Tertius also upgraded his vids and now has posted actual, official Bloodborne lyrics now, bless him. Show him support if you can! He does great work for us).
Anyway, hope that was an entertaining summary of the Olmos vs Tertius drama lmao. I’m still laughing when I think about it. I am sure I still have an actual call-out post for Olmos on this blog somewhere that I made before the issue was resolved 💀💀
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