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flickeringart · 2 years
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The Pluto in Leo generation (1938~1957) has the survival mode set on self-discovery and self-expression. While this can generate a lot of creative solutions and confidence, Leo is a showy sign, concerned with flashy appearance & performance. Pluto in Leo is a devilish diva.
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moongothic · 10 months
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You know here I was thinking to myself Crocodile would have no fucking way in a million years to get Pluton, because to get Pluton Momonosuke would have to order Zunesha to open Wano, and Momo would never just let Crocodile have the weapon, plus there's no way Crocodile could actually find out Pluton is in Wano
But actually
Some people have been wondering if the person Caribou is working for is actually Crocodile. Since last we saw Caribou, he mentioned he needed to let "that person" know about Pluton's location
Like I still feel a bit doubtful the person Caribou is talking about is Crocodile?? Like I'm not sure Croc would employ such a nasty bastard?? But also all Crocodile does give a shit about is whether or not the guy gets the job done so??? (But also not only does Caribou ALSO have a Logia DF but also a Quite Moist One at that, and IDK I feel like that could be a disadvantageous "underling" for Crocodile to have considdering the moisture is like His One Weakness?? IDK)
But the only other person (as far as known-characters go) I could see Caribou having ties with is Blackbeard but IDK if BB would be interested in getting Pluton in his hands? Though god knows BB is a wild card, who the fuck knows what his next move is. (I don't really think BB cares about getting One Piece either, like all we really know is that he wants Fullalead to become a part of the World Government as a proper country) But one of his ships has just arrived at Egghead, which means if Caribou was allied with Blackbeard, this would give Caribou a very quick and easy way to report back to his boss?
But the other thing is; Buggy wants to get One Piece. Buggy might actually be aware of how they need the Road Poneglyphs to find it. Even if he doesn't have them yet, with Big Mom gone they could probably get the one from Whole Cake Island pretty easily right now
But more importantly
Because Buggy was on Roger's ship
Buggy knows the Minks and he knew Oden
Buggy unironically actually has the connections to access the Poneglyphs from Zou and Wano
And god fucking knows, if Buggy is dragging Mihawk and Crocodile to Wano anyways, and if Crocodile found out about Pluton being there--
Good dear god, what kind of fucking chaos are we in for y'all
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My only Side Note to this idea is that, if either Blackbeard or Cross Guild is going to head to Wano to get Pluton (or hell, why not both, Buggy could head there just for the Poneglyph and they could just run into Blackbeard wrecking havoc trying to get it for himself and CG could just find out that way), regardless it would result in either
A) Someone actually obtaining Pluton
B) The Strawhats finding out about someone going after Pluton and heading back to Wano to stop it (god knows Luffy and Robin wouldn't want neither BB or Croc to have it)
But considdering the Strawhats JUST LEFT WANO I can't imagine them going IMMIDIATELY BACK either
So???
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venomgender · 8 months
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jiwoo collecting world renowned awakener's force controlls is so funny
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kobb4ni2 · 8 months
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I just read you sea serpent reader and I have been having thought on how everyone who meet reader!
Strawhats
*Were on day fishing and somehow the hook got onto readers tail or hair and was force to surface to see where the hook is from*
Reader who surface and is staring at the Strawhats: Hi
Luffy/Sanji/Chopper/Usopp/Nami: FOOD/LADY/MONSTER
Red-haired Pirates
*crashes on an island that reader was chilling*
Shanks: want a drink?
Crew: IDIOT!
Beast Pirates
*Appeared at Wano bc Kaido tried to kill himself for the millionth time and ended up in Readers territory.
Yamato see reader for the first time: READER! WILL YOU MARRY ME!
Everyone: Young Master!!!!
Marines HQ
*Got in trouble because she sunk a Celestial Dragon ship*
Akainu: You can't keep sinking every ship that you see because you don't like them
Reader pounting and acting guilty: Sowwwy
Akainu: We will let this slide (for the thousandths time)
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[ FEM READER ]
The Strawhats would have heard of you from stories of Jimbie or Robin explaining the poneglyph that consisted of your name, which could be traced back from Skypiea and ect.
This is just a rundown of how some strawhats knew about your existence :3
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Luffy would have definitely heard many stories about you from his grandpa or the Red hair pirate, Shanks saying that one day you will be his bride and all.
Franky would have also heard stories of you from Tom and from Kokoro, he might have read your name in the Pluton sheet (I forgot what it’s called 😭)
Nami would have overheard from Arlong and the other fishmen because Sea Serpent! Reader is basically their Goddess.
AND ROBIN OOH LOORRDD, Robin would actually have an obsession on you before you ever even met the Strawhats, the old books of Ohara would have so many information out of you, and since you were close to Joyboy she would always somehow read your name in one of the poneglyphs which made her incredibly hooked on you.
Sanji from Zeff and you being related to the ocean, you must know about the all blue them!!
But ya know just one day the crew were just fishing, everyone is doing their own thing, Franky made a huge fishing net to capture more fishes, which works perfectly fine (more food for Luffy yippiee) and just yoink. They just yoinked Sea Serpent! Reader out of the water while she was just sleeping…. Means the Strawhats woke her up from her nap dawg😞
Sea Serpent! Reader: Umm…Hi? You woke me up from my nap.
Luffy would be starry eyed while Sanji is turned into stone when he saw your beauty, Zoro would be on guard, Chopper,Ussop and Nami would be freighted, but Nami would have this sense of familiar towards you, while Jimbie, Robin, Brook and Franky (aka the oldest) are amazed that YOU ARE ACTUALLY REAL!! (World government hid you from the world basically) I mean they knew you were real but ya know the world government and stuff…
The Red Hair Pirates Shanks specifically KNEW YOU ALREADY, but only stories from Roger and Reighley, Shanks knew that you were real but was only being hold as a dangerous being to the World Government so they have to somehow keep you in a leash, but that didn’t really stop you from exploring island to island and that where you saw the Red Hair Pirates, drunk or not Shanks would start flirting with you the minute you agree to join their party ;3
BEAST PIRATES LETS GOOO GRAAAGGHHH
You saved Kaido from drowning after his “I have lost count” attempt, you the dragged his ass back to Wano, but before you can leave you were SOMEHOW detained and kept in a fancy room, that’s when Yamato met you, he heard that King ordered you to be held captive for a while, and the closer Yamato saw you the more you reminded him of the stories of Oden in his logbook about a Sea Serpent who had travelled with the Roger Pirates for only a few months, and when his suspicion was confirmed he immediately jumped out of his hiding spot and went to hug your tail, you were shocked but the boy Yamato kept on ranting about you, about opening up Wano and Oden and stuff, Yamato even said that after Wano is open he will marry you!!! (King is fuming rn)
The power you hold when it comes to the Marines is insane, the Gorosei will always send at least one Admiral to check up on you or if you’re going somewhere. It’s no secret you despise the Celestial Dragons, how could you not! Those are the people that brings extreme slavery and injustice not just towards your people but to everyone alike. You swear to Akainu that you didn’t even hit the celestial dragons boat, you just accidentally nudge it!! No you didn’t sent waves towards a boat that contains a bunch of Celestial Dragon, you were just swimming and your tail made too much force!! You have to forgive Sea Serpent! Reader!!
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deepvelvet · 1 year
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Composite moon through houses p2
MASTERLIST
PART 1
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6th: This is a more difficult placement for the moon in composite, since it comes a lot of times with bickering and critisism of each other, keeping score, looking at the little things. So it tends to be more judgement of each other and feeling we are in service of each other, in some fashion. Its not the most romantic place to have composite moon but the two people can focus on tasks very well if we have the moon well aspected. Their ideas of improvement are not quite similar, when it has hard aspects to it. So the emotional energy this two people create it's based on how they will do improvement out of their individual lives, their couple dynamic and their response to the envoiroment. We can feel less accepted.
"Sometimes i don't understand your way of feeling things, but we can think through how to focus on getting common ground."
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7th: Both people can feel deeply emotionally compatible. They feel assured by the other person. One of the most beneficial places to have composite moon because this two people relate with each other in a relationship context. They are looking for the same kind of environment within the relationship itself. It's easy to relate, to bond, to have support, to feel that the other person is looking for the same things in a context of a relationship.
"The echo moon - one of them send out a vibe and the other receives and send the same kind of vibe back"
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8th: It's a very complex placement for the composite moon. So in that case, you will want to look at both natal moon as see how they are aspected and how their personal 8th house or plutonic/scorpionic difficulties exist there. The combination of the lunar dispositions of what's familiar to us, ups and downs, what's hidden from view, compulsions. So the two people are very driven by their combined compulsions. It can be a very obsessive placement. We can deal with a lot of fears, attachments, insecurities, pulling each other's strings, triggering each other. If they dealed with their own pluto stuff, their own eight house stuff, we have two people that have really evolved beyond being driven by their dark forces it can provide the climate for healing and transformation. For other people, is going to be obsessions, fear, crisis and challenges.
"It's hard sometimes, but we can heal together."
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9th: There is agreement about their life views, philosophies, morality. Sharing of abstract ideas, there's quite a lot of conversation in this placement. Even if they have different backgrounds and moral views with this placement they will find a way to agree on each other's perceptions, or to have some kind of shared ideal, common ground. It's not a position that provides a lot of intellectual growth for the two people because we do tend to have agreement that's already built in. So there isn't a curiosity outside of what's going on between them. So they can enforce each other's beliefs, provide more of a concreteness to each other's philosophies or ideas.
" I believe in what you believe."
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10th: The two people see the other person can provide what they need to build, in the outside world, safety and security. The moon is naturally opposite to the 10th house on the wheel. The other side of the same coin, moon and Saturn. So while the moon is our basic need for security and safety, the 10th is where those things happen. Where we go and do the things that the 4th needs. So in this placement we have two people joining their most subjective personal states and feelings in a context of getting ahead, public image, status, what's external to us. They can be prone to identify outside external circumstances as the problems, difficulties and the supportive things that are working within the relationship. Its not a really personal place for the composite moon to be. They relate emotionally in their thoughts about where they want to go, how they want things to go to achieve their goals in order to meet the moon needs.
"What we can become together? Where are we going? How our combined lifestyle can provide or be the vehicle for what we want to achieve?"
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11th: Very fun and friendly relationship. The two people relate to each other as friends, they're Very accepting of the other person's weirdness. We get to be who we are. We invite the other person's unfettered natural expression. We get to fart in front of each other, eat too much in front of each other. We get to do whatever just happens and the other person Very much enjoys it. So, the spontaneity is similar. Very few expectations and demands made on each other. A great deal of forgiveness and tolerance. A free-flowing, exciting place. Cut down on resentments, score keeping
"I accept whatever it comes with you."
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12th: As well as 8th, it adds some complexity to the relationship. Often that's something very obscured about each other. We aren't completely aware of what the other person's deep needs are, how are we combining, what exactly is going on. Revelations tend to come though being stimulated to act irrationally. We'll have something that will come up that we will discover about ourselves. The two people learn about what they don't know they don't know about themselves as a result of How the other person triggers them or feels along beside them. Combined sansitivities, fears, mysteries, some of our dark side that they are combining and triggering in each other.
"You made me see parts of me i didn't knew i have"
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hoseoksssangels · 1 year
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⛓Obsessive placements in Synastry⛓
[DISCLAIMER: everything I’ve written comes from personal experience and observation. It may not resonate with you and it’s totally fine! tysm and stay safe!]🧨
Synastry 🧬
-Pluto/Lilith conjunct Asc/Moon/Ic
Usually since Pluto is the planet of obsession, the Pluto person will be the one who’s more obsessed, but I’ve noticed that the person receiving that energy, that in this case would be Asc/Moon/Ic somehow form some sort of emotional attachment to Pluto’s obsession. I know this might sound weird but if the receiving person is quite plutonic themselves then it’s more likely the attachment will be there. If Venus is somehow aspecting this, the Pluto person might make the other person feel loved the way they always wanted , which would lead to attachment, because in human psychology all humans get attached to that one person that makes us feel loved. Good sex and physical attraction, there might be some bdsm or even masochistic actions in the bedroom.
Moon in the 4th/8th house
Moon in the 4th house can be more of a loving/comfortable obsession, where you somehow get obsessed with the house person, but in a gentle way, since the 4th house is ruled by the moon. Strong emotional bond. In a romantic relationship this might be that one ex you will always love or feel love for. Love with no hard feelings. Also the moon person might see the house person as marriage material with this overlay.
Moon in the 8th house it’s a whole another story…💀 Personally I enjoy these sort of aspects since I’m very plutonic myself but I know some people who have had this aspect in synastry and they somehow get scared just talking about the relationship they had. The house person might get very obsessed with the way the moon person makes them feel and how they can get under their skin. The 8th house is our dark side, the type of shit we wouldn’t show just to anybody. It’s like forming a bond with the other person’s dark side. Get ready to act like psychopaths lmao. Also the house person might want to create the moon person or vice versa. The moon person might see themselves in the house person, since our moon tells us about our deepest core and how our soul truly is.
North node conjunct Sun, Moon, Asc, Karma
So the north node is our compass, it shows us where we are heading in life. When someone’s Sun, Moon or Asc is conjunct it,it feels like this person is the person we’re supposed to be with for the rest of our lives or the person we’re supposed to be like. If the person leaves, it might feel like we’re heading in the wrong direction or doing something wrong. But what this aspect truly is about, is that the planet person shows us a way, sets an example for us of what we should do. They’re not who we should be or our person, they’re just completing their karma, which would be showing and guiding us, till we reach our task and they do what they were sent for. But this can create a strong sense of “fate” and obsession since the Karmic nodes are low-key tricksters and illusionists.
Pluto/Lilith conjunct/square Venus.
A classic. At least every person that is into Astrology knows about this. Obsessive love. Nothing more and nothing less. There might be a need to control and tell our partner how they should, love, dress, express their emotions and who they should be dating. (Especially from Pluto) watch out for love bombing and emotional abuse/manipulation. It happens so so often with these aspects.
Pluto in the 12th house/Saturn in the 12th house.
Yikes. Not my favourite. Yep Saturn too bc Saturn can burden and makes us feel obligated/bonded/forced towards something. The planet person will feel very obsessed and almost as if it is an obligation for them to get to the dormant and most hidden part of the personality of the 12th house person. Big invasion of privacy and it feels almost as if the planet person might not respect ur boundaries. Stalking happens very often. The planet person sometimes might disturb the house person so much it could create some sort of trauma in the subconscious of the house person.
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So guys I hope you enjoyed this! I’ve been rewatching Strangers from hell (2019) lately and I got inspired to make this post. Since they remind me of these aspects in synastry. I’ll be making a composite version of this too!
The last time i saw the series was back in 2019😭 I forgot how good it was. Anyways love y’all ❤️ thank you for the support it truly means a lot to me❤️
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libbee · 1 year
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ASTRO OBSERVATIONS April 2023
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Scorpio is known for sex but I think it is the earth signs that are actually sensual. Earth signs such as Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn deal with senses and are the most stimulated by touch, visuals, taste, voice, beauty, pleasures of the senses. They are not intuitive but rather sensual, materialistic and interact with what is tangible, seen, physical. While Scorpio is intuitive and deals with intangible, unseen and spiritual.
Then why is Scorpio linked to sex? It is not about sexual pleasure and more about craving rebirth. Fact with Scorpios is that they discover a layer of themselves everyday going through life. Their identity, personality, beliefs need evolving and they need to die to be reborn. That intense sex is them tuning to their intuition and when they orgasm something in them dies. Since it is intuitive, each Scorpio will know what has died but it is not possible to tell it in words because it is a symbolic death. Sex to them is like a ritual, a sacred practice that assists them in passing from one stage to the next.
The force of 8th house is against will power. At best I read on a social media forum it being described like "Plutonic force is like your head being shaved against your will power, no matter how much you resist, it will happen".
Rahu can be such a fake, illusion maker and a mirage. Wherever it is placed in the natal chart can show what area of life is shown as the "ideal, picture perfect, larger than life, wow factor" but it is actually just empty behind the screen. If Rahu is in 1st house, native appears to be this dashing, grand, all-rounder person but actually nobody knows if they are actually that person or not, nobody seen them doing what they claim to do, it is just the image. If Rahu is in 10th house, they have this mirage illusion of being hard working, leader, planner, entrepreneur but they are not actually all that. If Rahu is in 7th house, they have this image of ideal partner, picture perfect couple, dream partner but actually it is just a mirage. It is the social perception that is ideal/mirage but in private something entirely different happens. For eg, they gift 100 roses to their loved one in office. Wow! How lucky, how romantic. Yet at home, they are like the partner does not even exist, totally different.
8th house moons can be hypersensitive to their mom's voice. It is as if they grow up and suddenly they are super reactive to their mom. If she says anything, 8H moon screams. "Be quiet!", "Change your tone of voice", they complain their mom irritates them which can be actually repressed memories of childhood being triggered every time mom says something. In the worst cases, they can even abuse their moms which is called "reactive abuse" where the party can no longer tolerate the abuser and explodes in anger.
Fire sign risings surely give the PERCEPTION of confidence, self assurance, burning hot even if they are extremely insecure inside, it would not appear in their persona. It is the rising sign that is how others see us and how we show ourselves to others, it is autonomous, spontaneous and unchangeable for this lifetime. Fire signs can be going through failures but not show in their faces.
Planets in 1st house emit the energy of themselves. But beware! 1st house is just the persona and your impression on others - not the actual person behind the mask. So Sun in 1st house = public perception is they are so confident and self secure. Mercury = they are so intelligent and cheerful. Jupiter = they are so wise and guide. Even if native is not these things, people are somehow convinced that they are those qualities just because of their facial expressions + language + vibes.
It is very important for 8th housers to be discerning in choosing their company/partner/friends. 8th housers are prone to feeling negative emotional hurts because they have survived extreme emotional situations in childhood, the side effects of which will last a lifetime. I also think that these natives inherit emotional wounds from their ancestors that makes them carry so much burden on their shoulders. So, they should choose such people who are empathetic, emotionally intelligent, know some psychology and know that "the wounds of swords and gun can heal but not that of the tongue". An unhealed 8th houser is like an open invitation to the world "come use me" and when the native has had enough of betrayals and shocks, they turn inwards to start doing self introspection, analysis of human nature and undergo drastic transformation.
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yuibangtanie · 7 months
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the tail wagging bcs of a chew toy 😭
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kayden and kartein probably gaslighted pluton into teaching jiwoo his force control lmaooooo
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jhondoe789 · 2 months
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One Bad Day
This is my first ever post on tumblr and I’m not sure if anyone will ever see it or if it’s worth reading but I had this thought and I wanted to share it with others. If anyone does read it I’d love to hear your thoughts.
In the famous comic/movie “The Killing Joke” the Joker says that it only takes one bad day to drive a person insane. As a fan of the Lackadaisy I had the realization that this can applied to all of the current and former main Lackadaisy characters (Mitzi, Mordecai, Victor, Zib, and Rocky). This collective “one bad day” was the day Atlas was murdered. This might not sound like it makes sense or could be applied to everyone but the day Atlas died started a chain of events that permanently changed all those affected by it. To best break it down I’ll go over how this “one bad day” affected each character.
MITZI
As the grieving widow Mitzi let her grief drive her to make increasingly morally questionable decisions that led to her losing Wick and Zib. Her pain led to her manipulating those around her, Wick for money, which would be discovered and ultimately lead to a break up with a woman he clearly had feelings for, and getting Rocky into getting alcohol despite the danger this puts him in. She becomes so obsessed with saving the Lackadaisy that the ounce beautiful Georgia rose was reduced to a prickly bush. When Zib offered her a way out her pain her trauma prevented her from doing so, all stemming from that one bad day.
MORDECAI
a man defined by order and precision, Mordecais meticulously constructed world fell to pieces thanks to one bad day. Atlas raised him and when he was taken away the structures that protected him collapsed. Despite his cold exterior he does hold compassion for those he cares about like Victor and Atlas. He abandoned and crippled Victor, his one and only friend after he refused to retire. Mordecai infiltrated the Marigold to find Atlas’s killer, making reckless choices, like crippling his best friend, getting sucked into a voodoo cult, kidnapping a man for information under the Savoy’s noses, and robbing the Lackadaisy, choices defined by pain, fear and desperation.
VICTOR
he never cared much for Atlas but his death made him lose his one freind who crippled him and now is forced to watch the Lackadaisy a place he helped build, rot. All while being reduced to a bartender and being further damaged by a shotgun blast to the chest, one can compare it to being trapped in purgatory all thanks to one bad day.
ZIB
Zib hated Atlas, not because of what he was but for what he did to Mitzi. Mitzi married a villain and after Atlas’s death became one. He held on to the hope that she would leave, that they could go on the road again. In the end, Zib would give up on her leaving her to pick up her pearls. After years in the Lackadaisy, Zib had been hollowed out, reduced to a drunken, tobacco stained shell of his former self, but watching Mitzi turn into the ruthless criminal she married broke him, a chain of unfortunate events stemming from one bad day.
ROCKY
Rocky is arguably the most tragic of all the characters in Lackadaisy, losing his parents at a young age, dominated by some form of mental illness that leaves him despised by most, kicked out of his Aunts house for an incident he may or may not have been responsible for, finding solid ground with the Lackadaisy only to see it all fall apart. Seeing everything burning around him he gave into his worst impulses in order to make himself useful to the Lackadaisy. His love (plutonic love) for Mitzi and his desire to be a part of the band led him to become increasingly erratic and reckless, he enlisted his cousin and Ivy into the fight, leading to Calvin becoming a killer and Ivy becoming more afraid and confused. Rocky may always have been crazy but the innocent antics of his youth were transformed into something darker and more destructive. One bad day brought the worst side of Rocky out just like the others.
CONCLUSION
“One bad day”, the Joker lost his family and was deformed by chemicals, his already poor life experiences provided a foundation for his madness. Like Joker the characters directly affected by Atlas’s death provided the final push that sent them into a spiral of despair, chaos, sadness and even madness. While none of these characters were exactly “ordinary” or good people in general, they had stable lives but when that was stripped away they were left broken and vulnerable leading them on their respective paths to damnation. Of course this is just my interpretation of these characters and I wouldn’t consider this little essay to be anything taken seriously.
thank you for anyone who took the time out of their day to read this and if you have any comments I’d love to hear them!
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a-killer-obsession · 1 month
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Thinkin a lot about this recently so here is my predictions for One Piece. Or at least what I hope, based on the theories I like. I'm not up to date properly with the manga but I see spoilers so I kinda know where it's at.
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I am a firm believer that Law and Kid's crews are at least mostly alive, and will be relevant again
Trying to think of what the potential conflict in Elbaf could be and I would like to see that Kid's crew are locked up, and since Luffy considers them friends he would be upset at that. Maybe he allies with Kid to take down Shanks, but the fight wouldn't be immediate. I feel like Law and Kid are supposed to be on equal footing, but Law travelled with Luffy for a pretty considerable time, so without a ship of his own maybe Kid will too. I can also see another sort of splitting of the crew, with some looking for the road poneglyph and other information while the rest go to Shanks. I think everyone is expecting Luffy's time in Elbaf to be peaceful but something has to happen surely
In my mind, Luffy is slowly gathering power for the final fight (see further down). He has allies with multiple kingdoms (Fishman Island, Alabasta, Dressrosa, Wano, not to mention the grand fleet, revolutionary army and SWORD) and if you think about it, he could have multiple emperors behind him as well. I have no doubt Whitebeard's old subordinates would fight for Luffy, Yamato has control of Kaido's crew, and I think Luffy can get control of Shank's, Big Mom's and Blackbeard's as well
For Shanks, I think we all know a fight is inevitable. It'll be maybe the last fight before the final one imo, but it won't be a fight to the death. More of a student surpasses the teacher thing, after which Shanks would show his respect by answering Luffy's call in the final fight
For Big Mom, it goes hand in hand with Blackbeard. First, Luffy finds out what happened to Law, collects him, helps him get his crew, and teams up to take down Blackbeard, perhaps with Kid at their side as well. I think this would be a fight to the death, and afterwards a lot of pirates would bow to Luffy. This would also allow for the rescue of Pudding. Katakuri is the most likely person to be in charge of the Big Mom pirates now, since he was the first mate, and we know he respects Luffy for defeating him, and that Katakuri has a sweet spot for his siblings. I think returning his little sister would do a lot for Katakuri's respect, maybe even enough to lend his forces for the final fight
The last hurdle is the man with the burned face, who has the last poneglyph. We already know Blackbeard is looking for him, and since it seems like the road poneglyphs have all been with emperors (assuming Shanks is protecting the Elbaf one which it seems like he is) then I can see Blackbeard managing to get it, and then Luffy fighting Blackbeard for it, which would make four for four on road poneglyphs being with emperors. Either that or the man kills blackbeard, becomes a emperor, and luffy fights him instead
But what is the One Piece I hear you say? I think its information, and that information is pertaining to what the World Government did to change the water level, aka the creation of the Red Line, and how to destroy it using the ancient weapons. This would tie in with the All Blue (as all oceans would be connected if the Red Line was destroyed) as well as the vision of Luffy destroying fishman island, since it's right underneath. This is where the arc in fishman island would come in, and be used by Shirahoshi to evacuate everyone. Its the one piece of information missing to take down the world government
I think Zou will also be a part of this. We know Momo spoke to him about opening Wano, and we know the weapon Pluton, which is a ship, is under Wano. I think Zou will be responsible with breaking down the walls around Wano to free the weapon (this bit seems like a pretty set theory). Perhaps he even tows it like Hancock's snakes, allowing it to travel through the calm belt. I think his punishment hes been going through has something to do with not releasing the weapon when he was last asked to
Luffy is allied with two out of the three ancient weapon's keepers, so the last step would be getting control of the last weapon, which is most likely something sky based and could potentially be what we see destroying islands. Obviously this is under the control of the World Government, so this is where the final fight would come in
Luffy would call in all his allies from throughout his whole journey, and together they'll get the weapon, destroy Mariejois and the red line, and unite the world. He'd also be King of the Pirates by now for finding the One Piece but I think the irony would be that he's basically king before even finding it
I also think cross guild are likely to join. Buggy and crocodile have already lost to Luffy, as well as allied with him before, I think all thats left there is for Zoro to defeat Mihawk. Again, I don't think this would be a fight to the death, much like Shanks and Luffy
Honestly I don't think Luffy even wants to be king, its just a means to achieve his actual dream. We saw how he acted when the strawhat grand fleet was formed, he doesn't want subordinates he just wants friends. For this reason I think Luffy, Kid and Law can all get what they want. Luffy unites the world, Law gets knowledge, and Luffy gives Kid the title of King. After all, Luffy is a fucking god, so what does he need the title for?
I think Kid is also probably changed after losing his ship. He probably feels a lot of regret that it was his immediate jumping to violence that made Shanks attack and put his crew in danger, and I think this would humble Kid and make him rethink how quick to jump to violence he is, making him a better king. I also think it'd be a interesting parallel to Sabaody since he had the highest bounty, so everyone likely assumed he would be the one to find the one piece, and in the end it happened but it wasnt his brutal violence that got him there, it was friendship, despite how against friendship he was, claiming they'd be enemies next time they saw each other.
Other shit i think is likely/theories I like:
It doesnt make much difference but i like the theory that D. Stands for dawn and those with the initial are descendants of joy boy's crew aka the Dawn pirates, with vivi's ancestor being honorary for turning against the government to hide the poneglyphs, just like vivi is a honorary straw hat. Idk i just think thats nice
All that shit with enel coming back from the moon. Honestly its gonna go one of two ways: either the moon is the natural partner of the sun, aka more allies, or the moon is the natural enemy, and maybe enel will be the enemy luffy deals with in elbaf or thereafter. It could well be that the last ancient weapon is on or part of the moon. Idk but i agree that enel will still be relevant
Dont get me started on the links between the emperors, elders, luffy and the aztec gods. Its a whole fucking thing okay but i think theres something there. Its the start of a new sun cycle okay? Luffy is bringing the dawn of a new sun!!!
Why did joyboy, or roger even, not use the weapons? I think he just didnt have enough allies tbh, or the ones he had weren't strong enough. The great pirate era forced everyone to get stronger and fight for one thing, and i think that was purposeful to boost the overall strength of those who hate the world government. I dont think its a coincidence that roger announced the one piece's existence and then after 900 years Luffy's devil fruit finally shows up, it was waiting for that call
Anyway idk shit about shit so take this all with a grain of salt, this is just my personal thoughts
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The strongest of awakeneds™: "It's impossible to develop one's abilities to match our level without our guidance because none of you knows shit for real."
Kayden some kind of mythical creature in the world of awakeneds: "I'm sure a bird would figure something out if you push him off a cliff let's fucking go."
But nah, considering who Kayden is, I don't think it should be surprising how Jiwoo is progressing like he is. Because he has Kayden. And Curtin. And now Pluton. Han Seongik freely shared his force control to him too. His sparring partner is Yoo Jiyoung. He got gameshark codes actually?? Jiwoo's true power is having max luck stat like everyone's hoarding their knowledge but he stands there and some awakened would be like, yo lemme show you a secret way FOR FREE.
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quasiquack666 · 3 months
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My Gay Agenda aside, it honestly feels really late for Gestella to appear as a love interest for Kayden?
She only first appeared in Chapter 294, which seems like the middle of the comic. And the writers didn't even add backstory for Gestella and Kayden (like they did for Kayden & Kartein or Kayden & Pluton). They clearly don't know anything about each other.
(More detailed spoilers under the break. Screen readers stop now)
There's no way Gestella would believe how sappy those letters were if she knew Kayden, nor would Kayden have been so distrustful of her with Jiwoo if he knew that she had a decent personality (similar to his understanding that neither Kartein or Pluton would likely hurt Jiwoo, which is how he led Kartein to Jiwoo's house and only fought Pluton for jabbing at his ego rather than solely because he discovered their location).
Developing a relationship for KayStella from square one in the middle of the comic sounds like a clusterfuck waiting to fail.
Especially when the whole current basis of their relationship is them being pissed off at each other based on misunderstandings.
The forced romance only feels more jarring when Kartein and Kayden had the perfect romantic setup in contrast. They had a clear background from how they talked to each other, they knew how to get on each other's nerves, they could trust each other (in a bare sense but still), and Kartein was introduced in Chapter 136 which gives readers plenty of time to get to know him. Kartein has several major development arcs since his introduction and only became closer to Kayden. Kartein is a well-developed character whose relationship to Kayden never felt very forced or contrived solely for a romance plot. Kartein is actually a character by himself before he would be romantically inclined.
Therefore, the writers knew how to set up a character to have long-term development alongside Kayden while also getting development by themselves. So if anything, Gestella should have been the one introduced early on so we could get to know her.
I'm just pointing out that it's a mistake logistically for her to be introduced so late, compounded with having no shared background to Kayden. Their relationship will almost certainly be inferior to one that is well-developed over the majority of the comic versus halfway through.
Because personally, I adore Gestella, stupid plotline aside. So the way the writers throw both her and Kayden under the bus for the forced romance plot really pisses me off on so many levels. The plot feels utterly disrespectful to their development. It makes Gestella yet another forced female love interest (which sucks even worse when the only main female characters are made solely for the males). Then randomly shoots a romance plot at Kayden even though he's been fine this whole time as just a cat dad to Jiwoo.
Again, Gay Agenda aside, even my Het Agenda is ruined by this. How am I supposed to ship their canon selves on such a shit foundation? (Although my headcanon ideas for them are still raging; I'm too much of a simp for them separately to not pair them together. Fuck)
Meanwhile, Gay Agenda at full rainbow power, Kartein and Kayden is obviously the queer romance that we will never get in canon. They were the perfect setup and have been since their first chapters. This forced heteronormative nonsense is why queer pairings are the majority of fandom ships, let's not lie.
(Shoutout to @heartrenderscove . Our convos make me realize all this shit)
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So I have some thoughts on the new chapter and the relationship between Kayden and Gestella.
This is just a bunch of points I think could have been done, I don't mean to offend/or start a fight with anyone.
I think they could have made the relationship make more sense; Kayden is sought after by many organisations they could literally shown both of them having to work together on an agreement that Kayden got to fight her later. Then due to circumstances their fight got interrupted before any conclusion could have been made.
The way their dynamic is shown just seems shoehorned in. Gestella so far is characterized as someone is amicable, she also seems nice considering she, one; doesn't try to kill Jiwoo to get back at Kayden. Two; she wasn't forcing Pluton to go against his code. Three; she realises her mistakes and apologizes for them even if she doesn't have to; she says sorry to Jiwoo for kidnapping him. Four; she apparently saved Plutons life this is big considering how powerful someone would have to be for Plutons life to be on the line, meaning she could have been harmed but she chose to help anyway.
So her personality would clash with Kaydens. It would make more sense if Gestella also enjoyed fighting and saw Kayden as what could have been her life if she wasn't affiliated. They could have made that the reason Gestella likes Kayden, her liking Kayden because he's similar to her but also hating him cause she envies the freedom he has would have made an interesting relationship for both of them.
Seriously there's got to be some awakened people that regret the fact that they became affiliated, it would be interesting seeing such an outlook from a top 10. They literally have the highest amount of power but the least amount of freedom to use it, their strength in being affiliated is also their shackle.
Seriously Gestella isn't a lovesick teenager she's a woman that's Decades older than Kayden ( it's literally stated that the top 10 hasn't changed in decades she is at the very least 4 decades older than Kayden). She's lived life at the very top for decades, she's had to keep up an appearance for decades. We saw a top 10 covet Kaydens power, why not have a top 10 covet Kaydens freedom. It would actually add a lot to the world building of Eleceed we'll get to know just how being affiliated works.
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moongothic · 10 months
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I know people often speculate about Crocodile and if that is his "real name", either implying he has a deadname or his name is another one of those Hidden Ds (much like Roger and Law)
And like. This is just me but personally I would prefer it if he didn't have a deadname at all. It already grinds my gears when people use Sanji's "real name" when he himself hates it and doesn't want to be called by it, and so god knows if Crocodile is trans then the fandom misgendering is going to be obnoxious enough, you don't need to add a """real name""" into that mix
So. Personally, I would prefer it if Crocodile really was his birthname. It would just help us avoid some toxicity, ya feel me? Like people can't deadname him if he has no deadname to begin with?
That said.
I do find it interesting how Crocodile never actually introduces himself during the story to like. Anyone. Like we never see him go "yes hello you may call me Sir Crocodile" or anything
In fact, like, very specifically, when we finally get Crocodile's face reveal in Chapter 155, he explicitly says
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"Call me what you will"
Of course, the citizens of Nanohana had just been calling him a 'hero', 'desert king' and 'the Guardian Deity of Alabasta' in the previous page, so his comment is mostly just in reference to the various titles people were shouting out rather than his actual name
And to be fair, the dude is Extremely Famous, he doesn't have to introduce himself because everybody already knows who he is
But it's still an interesting detail, isn't it?
(Also tangentially related, but Crocodile never seems to object to people calling him by cutesy nicknames either? Like to be fair, he probably couldn't object to Ivankov calling him "Crocoboy" to begin with, but he never seemed to mind Bon-chan calling him "Zero-chan" repeatedly either, nor did he object to Buggy's "Cro-chan" 🤔)
If nothing else though, considdering even his former bounty was associated with the name we know him by, it's possible that even if he had a deadname, "Crocodile" could be his "pirate nickname" that he chose to roll with. Kind of like "Strawhat" or "Blackbeard" or "Hawkeyes" etc, a title people use so often you kind of forget the person's actual name
Or he might have that Hidden D. Which, if he did, I'd be more inclined to believe would be more like with Law (where he might've been told as a child to keep it a secret). Instead of the whole "names being merged into one to hide the D" like with Roger, since that one was a specific, intentional move from the World Government
The only thing about the Hidden D is that. I just. I think it'd be a little silly. Like. Crocodile doesn't have to be a part of the D clan in my mind. Like I don't need that twist. But to be fair, there is an argument to be made for Crocodile being a D. Like if his goal is to destroy the WG and the World Nobles (that being the reason he wanted military force and Pluton to begin with) then ARGUABLY it would be fitting for him to be a D, since the D clan are the "Natural Enemies of the Gods". Also, there's the whole trend of D clan members always dying with a smile on their face. Like sure Crocodile hasn't died (yet) but he definitely went to Impel Down (hell) with a big ol' smirk on his mugshot (chapter 413 cover), which is close enough. So there is an argument to be made for Crocodile having a fullname with a D that's been kept a secret
I dunno, these details are interesting to me
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So, I have been rewatching Corpse Bride and immidiately thought of a Corpse Bride au in Twisted Wonderland, so basically the MC (Yuusona) as Victor, Riddle as Victoria (its makes sense since Riddle is from a seemingly important family) and Vil as Emily, so yeah. What are your thoughts if Minako we're to be in a Corpse Bride au?
Thanks for waiting! Just got back from my vacation!
Honestly, Riddle being forced into an arranged marriage by his mother is on brand, and in a Victorian era setting too.
I guess in this AU, the Nezumi family are more closely tied to their noble ancestry, and therefore, making them rich nobles too. That, or Minako is the adopted daughter of Crewel. Minako, though, doesn't have shitty guardians/parents, unlike Victor. They're probably just exploring options with people like Riddle, just to see if Minako finds a good match.
Minako has loads of marriage prospects and proposals, and I can see Mrs. Rosehearts wanting her son to marry into a very influential family, especially since they've become destitute at the moment.
As much as Vil is my favourite, I see Malleus as Emily more because of how clingy he is and his melancholy. I can see him crying, "But you're married to me! He's the other man!"
I don't have much else to add other than that wedding gift Minako/Victor recieves. Minako also has a deceased dog, and she'd be thrilled to see Pluton again, even as a corpse.
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Silco Headcanons - The Anatomy of a Dark Messiah - Zodiac Rambles
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Based on this ask<3
First off, going by the Big Three I headcanoned in a previous post:
Gemini sun - Charismatic, witty, calculating.
Pisces Moon - Adaptable, empathetic, dual-natured.
Scorpio Rising - Aggressive, ambitious and needs to be in control.
Gemini is the mutable sign of the zodiac. It is associated with the element of air, and centered on the mind/intellect. There is also a duality present in Gemini - it can be split into yang (positive, masculine, outward energy) and yin (negative, feminine, inward energy), like two sides of a coin.
As a young man, this duality manifested in Silco's witty, amiable exterior and the darker, more ambitious nature he kept hidden. He was flexible with his plans, ready to adapt at the slightest provocation. Present-day, it shows in the ease with which he switches from the charismatic Chancellor to the cutthroat kingpin, and in the way he uses rationalizations to justify his actions: "I'm doing this for us, Jinx," - "It's for your own good, Jinx." - "We can't go back now, Jinx."
His Gemini is in Neptune, and occupies his first house. It's also conjunct Pluto, and squared by the asteroid Eris.
Neptune is associated with illusions, secrecy, mysticism, and spiritual transcendence. It's also the root of delusions, cults, and messiah complexes. A conjunction with Pluto is this aspect symbolizes a powerful capacity for transformation. It can also manifest as a lifelong intimacy with the Plutonic forces of nature: death, rebirth, metamorphosis, evolution—and revolution. Conjunct Eris, the sign of discord, division, and uprising, we see Silco's natural ability to influence the masses and incite them to take drastic measures.
The placement in the first house symbolizes his early life, and his base nature (his first self, in a sense.) His is a childhood marked by struggle, strife, and hellish darkness: working in the mines, but also being in close proximity to gold, silver, gems. Pluto, in mythology, is known as The Rich One, and reflects Silco's talent for accumulating wealth and resources, and also rechanneling them to fund disruptive endeavors that topple the status quo.
This conjunction also indicates the potential for great spiritual magnetism. Neptune in the first house reflects an inner world of dreams and nightmares. If these are not balanced, the person may suffer from a sense of unreality, becoming disconnected from the world around them.
Paired with his silvery Gemini tongue, this becomes a barbed weapon: his words literally have the power to make the listener see God—or the Devil.
Silco's Moon is in Pisces. This is the final sign of the zodiac and, in a way, represents a sort of "summing up" of the whole zodiac cycle. Silco's Pisces sits in his eighth house. In general, this means he has a strong drive towards transformation, and a keen gift for intuiting others' needs. It also symbolizes his emotional vulnerability. Pisces' watery nature is reflected in the concept of fluidity: the merman, the waves, the ebb and flow.
Silco has a Pisces moon squared by Saturn. Saturn's associations include: boundaries, limitations, and structures. It is the ruler of Capricorn, a Cardinal earth sign that is concerned with survival, practicality, and building things from the ground up. Taken together, this speaks to deep emotional scaffoldings that have held him back, and been torn down, at great cost.
A moon in the eighth house also signifies an absent, or unstable maternal influence. In Silco's case, it indicates his mother's mental illness, her swings between mania and lucidness, and her institutionalization in the Asylum. It likewise relates to his period of imprisonment in Stillwater, and the loss of self-expression (he's literally kept muzzled during his stay). Finally, it points to the systemic barriers that keep him from fully unleashing that tender, perceptive, empathetic side of him without paying the price.
He is, literally, caged by external forces. The lack of safety and security, the violence and hopelessness - all of this takes its toll.
And yet, it's in the structured Saturnian identity of fatherhood that his Moon really blossoms. Through giving Jinx the stability and protection she craves, he finds his own emotional equilibrium, and an outlet for that creative, intuitive, caring side of himself.
At the same time, there is an intensity, a sense of warping, that the placement lends his relationship with Jinx. He's too involved. He's too willing to sacrifice, or twist rules, or wring necks.
Anything to keep Jinx safe - and keep her his.
His rising sign is Scorpio. The first thing that comes to mind is the sting: the sting of his tongue, his eye, his blade. But also the sting of his rage. Our rising sign is the veneer, the public self. Silco's sits in Scorpio, with his Sun sign already in close proximity to Pluto. The combination is associated with secrets, occultism, and death. It is also linked to intense ambition and a burning drive to succeed at all costs.
His rising in the sixth house is interesting. It signifies a drive to do something useful for others. To make their lives better.
This is an unusual placement, considering how his outward persona is so driven by self-interest. And yet, it is the foundation of his character, and the loyalty he inspires in others. Everything he does, no matter how ruthless, is rooted in his drive to birth Zaun into being. It also ties into his willingness to sacrifice his own ambitions, his health, his life, for a greater cause.
Not Zaun, but Jinx.
His North node is in Pisces, with the South in Virgo. The nodes represent karmic threads, and the North is our path to mastery, and the South is our lessons, and what we're still trying to figure out. Silco's is almost a call to find 'God' - to be a guide to the lost and broken. It's also a reflection of his innate desire to help others. He finds meaning, purpose, and healing in the bonds he forms, and through nurturing Jinx, his path becomes clear: to guide his child.
And yet, the Neptunian influence creates, once again, a sense of warping: who is the guiding force, and who is the lost?
His Lilith - the planet representing his anima, the wounded feminine, the vengeful succubus - is fittingly in Cancer. The mother-of-all-monsters is the most nurturing and protective of her brood. She will defend her children to the death, and has the ferocity of a thousand women scorned. She's the demoness that will hunt you down, and eat your heart if you dare harm her family.
This plays into his fierce overprotectiveness for Jinx, his willingness to kill for her - but also, disquietingly, his tendency to smother her, to try to control her and keep her safe in the confines of his world, where nothing and no one can reach her.
His Venus and Mars, two signs intimately tied to romance, relationships, sexuality, are both in Capricorn. They sit in the twelfth house, and form a conjunction. Mars in Capricorn is ambitious and focused, but it can be destructive, especially when it's not channeled correctly. The combination is also sometimes associated with the Devil.
This is the most volatile piece of Silco's psyche, forged in the crucible of trauma and betrayal, and has only one goal: survival. It's kill or be killed, and it's the reason why he doesn't hesitate to launch an ambush from the shadows, kill a child, or torture a lackey. It is the ruthless part of his nature, and a reminder that while his actions might be motivated by idealism, he is just as comfortable with blood-work as he is with politics.
 Violence may be 'base.' But it's necessary for change. And by God, does it feel good.
Your Mars placement is also an indicator of the men you're drawn to, or the masculine traits you idealize (while Jupiter is the more 'husbandly' aspect, and describes the men we might settle down with). Silco's Mars is in Capricorn: we see this play out in his attraction to Vander, a hardworking, rugged, disciplined man, who is both a leader and a father figure. Vander's grounded and brass-buttons attitude was a good a counterpoint to Silco's shady and slippery ways.
Without it, he's prone to succumbing to the pull of his darker side.
More positively, his Mars in Capricorn also gives him the grit and tenacity to keep climbing his way up, despite the odds. He takes each setback in stride, and finds the means to push forward. He never stops, and that's what makes him the unstoppable force he is. Likewise, the Capricornian aspect comes through in his outward projection of authority. He's got 'Daddy' energy - pun fully intended - and gives the impression of an austere, forbidding patriarch who is always in control. His lackeys respect him, and are terrified of his temper. The way he expresses his approval is not with a warm embrace, or a gentle pep-talk. It's with the barest smile, the ambiguous tilt of the head, the briefest acknowledgment.
Yet that Martian fire is also the spark behind his charisma. If push comes to shove, he'll descend from his tower and get down in the trenches with the grunts. He prefers not to get his hands dirty, but he's not above wading into the fray himself, or personally gutting a turncoat to make a point.
And the sheer carnivorous zeal in his eyes, when he sinks his blade, hilt-deep, is palpable.
His Venus, likewise in Capricorn, is a curious placement. He's not a sentimentalist, and his aesthetic is far from festive. Yet it imbues him with a nearly old-world severity that verges on elegance, completely at odds with his thuggish reputation. He's hard to please and has a taste for the finer things. He's also notoriously difficult to thaw.
He's not looking for love, and he's certainly not smitten by a pretty face or a mouthful of sugared words. His pleasures are rooted in tactile things: the weight of gold coins in his hand, the heady scent of cigar smoke, the soft pliancy of skin beneath his fingertips.
He doesn't do romance. Not the way you'd expect. But he's got a taste for the chase, and is a masterful wordsmith.
The Venus placement is also the 'wife' aspect, and describes the woman (or type of woman) he would be interested in. The Capricornian influence is reflected in the maturity and gravity he seeks in a partner. She's got a cool exterior, a razor wit, and a taste for refined luxury. She's also his equal: the only woman who can keep up with him. He doesn't need a mother figure to pamper him. He's not interested in a little girl who'll pout and wheedle her way into his good graces.
He's already got a daughter, and more than enough on his plate.
He needs a partner, in every sense. Someone who is his match, and who can bring her own strengths to the table.
We see this play out in his relationships with both Sevika and Mel.  In the former, there is a certain solidity, given that she is a trusted comrade-in-arms. There's an easy physicality between them, even as they butt heads over his choices and their consequences. The history also lends itself to a deep-seated connection. Both serve to keep each other grounded, and their dynamic is nearly 'spousal' in its banter and bickering.
With Mel, it's about a challenge, an intellectual dance. The tensions run high, but there's an undergirding of mutual playfulness, and a recognition of the other's prowess. She's extremely classy, and carries herself with a nearly queenly poise. It's the kind of quality he's always secretly coveted. For a boy from the Lanes, who spent his youth scraping mud off his boots, a woman like her is an unreachable ideal. He wants to leave his filthy fingerprints all over her. To stir up her passions. Too wreck her.
What's more, he suspects, with patience, she'll let him.
The twelfth house is the realm of the unconscious, the occult, and the otherworldly.  Both his Venus and Mars are located here, and they're in close conjunction. In terms of sexuality, this placement indicates a pull towards the taboo. He's got remarkably few inhibitions, and his tastes bleed toward the decadent and unconventional. He enjoys sex with a bit of an edge - the sharper the better. The Capricornian vibe plays into this: control games, the subtle dance of seduction and surrender, and a healthy heaping of kink.
There's an almost feral, wild-child side to his libido. And there is nothing that thrills him quite as much as taking a strong plaything, and seeing how quickly he can make them fall to their knees—and fall apart.
On the flipside, this also indicates an obsession with having the upper-hand. Every act of generosity comes with a dotted line. Every gift, a debt. Every kiss, a contract.
The twelfth house's ties to the occult also speak to a deep, unrelenting spiritual drive. As we saw earlier, his Sun, Neptune, and Pluto are all aligned in this direction. While he may not put stock in the gods, or any higher power, the notion of transcendence is an intrinsic part of his identity. It's a part of him that has been shaped by trauma, warped by betrayal, reborn by revolution, and risen from the ashes like the mythical sea-monster.
His faith rests not in the heavens, but himself.
I hope this was a fun exploration! I've got a family background in astrology, but please don't take my interpretations as gospel. I just have fun putting the pieces together. If you share aspects of Silco's chart, I hope I've given you something to think about.
Thank you for reading<3
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