#poc vacker

[the-way-astray]

hey. hey guys. quick question to the 99% of you that headcanon the vackers as poc. what race/ethnicity do you usually picture them as? i'm just curious, and i know elves don't typically have race or whatever, but in terms of physical appearance what race/ethnicity do you personally see them as?

[cogaytes]

no bc why do none of the poc characters canonically get bitches

[keeper-of-the-lost-dadwin]

Actually every character is brown/black because the term pale is pretty subjective and if Sophie is surrounded by people of color and one herself she’d be more likely to describe as pale without meaning white.

[bookwyrminspiration]

I felt the need to inform you that the Vackers are Desi in my mind, and specifically Pakistani Muslims. Also, I believe that Alden married into the Vakcers.This is solely because I think that the image of Alden trying to wear Shalwar Kameez and tripping all over it is very funny to me.

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!! I've seen Desi Vackers art and concepts floating around in the fandom before and it is truly a stunning concept--if you look up the tag "desi vackers" you'll get a sample of them. Though I will admit I personally don't know enough to know the nuance of what Pakistani Muslims would entail, but I'd be more than happy to learn and hear about it.

I also don't think you're alone in having some fun with Alden--when people aren't hating on him, he's usually gotten involved in some innocent antics or silly situations purely on accident. Hardly anyone can take him seriously anymore :)

He's very earnest and also a mess of a person and I think it's. very fun to think about--and I can just imagine how eager he'd be to marry Della and how he'd try to stay composed (and then utterly failing and tripping all over)

10/10 Desi Vackers is a stellar idea and I love seeing what people think of and create for them!!

[cephalopodology]

Thinking about how it’s sorta canon that Fitz, Biana, and Alvar are racially ambiguous kids who just always pass as white now even if it wasn’t necessarily intentional from Shannon (idk if it was or not).

Flashback during the trial like casually (albeit indirectly) confirms, oh, yeah, they definitely have a wide variety of racial backgrounds. The extended Vacker family is shown to be a really mixed group there

And I love that the Vacker kids have that connection, even if it wasn’t intentional, because being mixed / racially ambiguous comes in all shapes and sizes, yknow, and it *can* look simply “white” from an outside perspective. Genetics are funky af in that way sometimes

[the-great-gullon-incident]

Putting this out now: I only have three conditions when it comes to casting for the movie:

Age accurate casting. Doesn’t have to be exact but have them look their ages.

No white washing any of the poc(I do not include the Vackers in this point. I know poc is a popular headcanon and while I would be completely fine if they did cast poc it is still just a headcanon so if they get cast as white I won’t be upset)

Sophie’s actress is not allowed to blue eyes unless she gives a spectacular performance(if adaption turns out to be animated, point may be excluded)

I do not care about what casting decisions they make otherwise.

[spaceagebachelormann]

𝐫𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐬

!!REQUEST REQUIREMENTS!!

-> state the character, romantic or platonic, the format of the request, and a plot

-> do you have any specifics for the reader? blonde, poc, male, neurodivergent, etc? (please keep in mind i will write poc readers but i’m white so they may be a little difficult for me)

-> requests are preferred to be sent through inbox, but i can make dms work if needed

-> PLEASE ACTUALLY SPECIFY WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR REQUEST!! ITS VERY HARD FOR ME TO WRITE “____ x reader fluff” GIVE ME A PLOT LINE

!!WHAT I WILL WRITE!!

-> platonic

-> romantic

-> familial

-> any gender x any gender

-> headcanons

-> long fics

-> multi character

-> blurbs

-> poly relationships

-> x reader

-> i will only write cheating if it’s a character comforting r after being cheated on, not a character cheating on r

!!WHAT I WONT WRITE!!

-> smut (i’m 15)

-> yandere

-> most aus, ask about the specific au before requesting an au

-> incest

-> age gaps

-> canonical gay/lesbian character x a man (if lesbian) or a woman (if gay)

-> song fics

-> things about ocs

-> ships

-> sunshine x grumpy tropes, i’m horrible at this trope

character list

keeper of the lost cities

sophie foster, dex dizznee, fitz vacker, keefe sencen, biana vacker, marella redek, maruca chebota, tam song, linh song, wylie endal, jensi babblos, stina heks, elwin hesledge

chronicles of narnia

peter pevensie, edmund pevensie, susan pevensie, lucy pevensie, caspian

riordanverse

percy jackson, annabeth chase, grover underwood, jason grace, piper mclean, leo valdez, hazel levesque, frank zhang, nico di angelo, will solace, reyna arellano, rachel dare, travis stoll, connor stoll, thalia grace, magnus chase, alex fierro, carter kane, sadie kane

harry potter

harry potter, ron weasley, hermione granger, neville longbottom, luna lovegood, ginny weasley, fred weasley, george weasley, sirius black, james potter, remus lupin, mary macdonald, marlene mckinnon, lily evans, dorcas meadows, regulus black, barty crouch jr, narcissa black, andromeda black, bellatrix lestrange

ride the cyclone

ocean o’connell rosenberg, noel gruber, mischa bachinski, ricky potts, jane doe/penny lamb, constance blackwood

shadow and bone

alina starkov, malyen oretsev, genya safin, zoya nazyalensky, david kostyk, tamaar & tolya, nikolai lantsov

six of crows

kaz brekker, inej ghafa, jesper fahey, nina zenik, wylan van eck, matthias helvar

the outsiders

ponyboy curtis, johnny cade, sodapop curtis, darry curtis, steve randall, twobit matthews, dallas winston, cherry valance

the hunger games

katniss everdeen, peeta mellark, finnick odair, johanna mason, cinna, effie trinket

it (2017)

bill denbrough, eddie kaspbrak, richie tozier, stan uris, beverly marsh, ben hanscom, mike hanlon

the school for good and evil

agatha, sophie, tedros, hort, hester, anadil, dot, nicola, rhian mistral, rafal mistral, clarissa dovey, leonora lesso

the land of stories

connor bailey, alex bailey, red riding hood, jack, goldilocks

scooby doo

shaggy rogers, fred jones, daphne blake, velma dinkley, thorn, dusk, luna

little women

jo march, amy march, beth march, meg march, laurie

dracula

dracula, lucy westenra, arthur holmwood, john seward, mina harker, abraham van helsing, renfield, quincey morris, jonathan harker, the brides

frankenstein

victor frankenstein, elizabeth lavenza, henry clerval, adam frankenstein, justine mortiz, ernest frankenstein, the bride

dr jekyll and mr hyde

henry jekyll, edward hyde, richard enfield, gabriel utterson, hastie lanyon, lucy harris

phantom of the opera

christine daaé, erik destler, raoul de chagney, meg giry, carlotta giudicelli

a good girls guide to murder

pippa fitz-amobi, ravi singh, naomi ward, cara ward, connor reynolds, jamie reynolds, nat da silva

the mighty ducks

charlie conway, adam banks, lester averman, guy germaine, connie moreau, fulton reed, dean portman, julie gaffney, ken wu, luis mendoza, dwayne robertson

monster high

frankie stein, draculaura, clawdeen wolf, cleo de nile, abbey bominable, ghoulia yelps, operetta, rochelle goyle, spectra vondergeist, elissabat, clawd wolf, deuce gorgon, heath burns, jackson jekyll, holt hyde, kieran valentine

the powerpuff girls

blossom utonium, bubbles utonium, buttercup utonium, brick jojo, boomer jojo, butch jojo

david bowie

david bowie, ziggy stardust, jareth, thomas jerome newton, celliers

sweeney todd

sweeney todd, anthony hope, mrs lovett, johanna todd

the rosewood chronicles

lottie pumpkin, ellie wolf, jamie volk, ollie moreno, raphael wilcox, anastacia alcroft leblanc, saskia san martin, lola tomkins, mickey tomkins, binah fae

hairspray

corny collins, link larkin, amber von tussle, tracey turnblad, penny pingleton, seaweed j. stubbs

attack on titan

eren yeager, mikasa ackerman, armin arlert, jean kirstein, sasha braus, connie springer, annie leonhardt, bertholdt hoover, reiner braun, hange zoe, levi ackerman, erwin smith, colt grice, niccolo, yelena, onyakopon, zeke yeager

daisy jones and the six

daisy jones, billy dunne, graham dunne, karen sirko, warren rhodes, pete loving/roundtree, eddie loving/roundtree, camila dunne, simone jackson

doctor who bbc

ninth doctor, tenth doctor, rose tyler, jack harkness, mickey smith, donna noble, martha jones, clara oswald, river song, simm! master

miss peregrines home for peculiar children

jacob portman, emma bloom, millard nulling, enoch o’connor, olive elephanta, alma peregrine

miscellaneous characters

sarah williams, bernard the elf, rodrick heffley, varian, lisa frankenstein, the creature (lisa frankenstein)

UPCOMING FANDOMS : les miserables, what we do in the shadows

[ramiethewizard]

I have many critiques on Keeper of the Lost Cities. Don’t get me wrong, I love it as a series. But like any series, there are both obvious and unobvious flaws. Since I finally have a place online to talk about them I thought I’d share my thoughts! (Disclaimer: this is not bashing on Shannon Messenger or the series in any way!)

1. Too many protagonists

The series was fairly okay with the original gang in the earlier books. That group being Sophie, Keefe, Fitz, Biana, and Dex. There was a chance to connect with all of the characters and grow on each of them. I know I know, characters like Biana and Dex were still pushed aside a bit but they had a better chance at being involved again. But then only more and more protagonists joined. Adding Tam and Linh was iffy, but fine. Then you add Marella, Maruca, Wylie, Stina, all those people. We don’t have a chance to connect with the characters.

2. Obvious favoritism

A few people have pointed this out already, and I thought I’d do the same. Shannon has very clear favorites of the series - which is fine, don’t get me wrong. But sometimes it’s used a little too much. Keefe is a very obvious favorite. We constantly focus on him and his story. At this point, Sophie AND Keefe are the protagonists. I love Keefe, but I want to learn about the injustices and discrimination of Bad Matches from Dex. I want to learn about the expectations of being a Vacker from Fitz and Biana. See what I’m saying?

3. Little plots abandoned

I feel like there have been so many times where Shannon starts this little idea and then throws it away. If you reread the books, you seem to find so many instances where there’s something, and then it’s just abandoned. For example, Magnate Leto (Forkle) says in I think Exile how he doesn’t have a wife and he seems quite sad about it. Or the time in…Flashback I believe where we meet Tinker. Tinker is such an interesting character. She freaks out when Forkle talks about explosives and he said that he wouldn’t make her build them - ‘not again’. HUH? And we’ve gotten no more out of it.

4. Overly focused on romance

Probably my biggest pet peeve with the series is that it is so so focused on romance. Having romance in the series is fine but there’s so much. I feel like Sophie barely even has any character left. You can tell that Shannon was just really excited to write the romantic relationships because even in the first book (WHEN SHES TWELVE) there are already intense moments. And the biggest thing is that characters like Keefe and Fitz (the love interests) are so much more important than characters like Biana and Dex (the friends). It’s a weird thing because Sophie should be apart of both groups but there’s just a weird focus on the guys that she’s into.

5. Lack of diversity

This is something that I think should just be improved in general. Most of the protagonists are very stereotypical and don’t have any diversity. Most of the main characters are white - which is fine but when it gets to be that ALL of the protagonists are, it just gets a little…you know? I mean, Tam, Linh, and Wylie are not white but they’re also not focused on at all in the series. It’s one of the reasons why people headcanon the Vackers to be POC so much. There’s also no LGBTQ+ characters - which again, fine for the most part but also…people of the queer community are incredibly common and the KOTLC characters seem so…not straight. So the fact that it’s been like ten books and there hasn’t been anything is just a little eh. Same with mental health, or physical abilities. Just a lack of diversity.

I love this series a lot, but like anything, it can always improve. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[queenpiranhadon]

- Love Like You, Rebecca Sugar

I...write for pretty much anything! You can check my fandoms list through the main navigation on my intro post!

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[confessionsofkotlc]

I'm... I'm a little scared to admit this, but I never once saw the Vackers as poc... (at least, not the main five, I know there are canon poc Vackers in the extended family)

Idk they always seemed super fair-skinned and with Eurocentric features on the book covers and stuff. I could see them being Ashkenazi Jewish I guess? But most other regions seem off to me.

I don't have any problem with other people headcanoning them as poc, just kinda wanted to get this off my chest. Also, I'm a poc myself, so I promise this isn't because of some weird racist reason or something, I just really never interpreted their characters like that.

[the-way-astray]

so i know we all love poc!vackers, and i do, too! i'm not trying to tell anyone not to headcanon poc!vackers. poc!vackers are a huge part of tumblr fanon and i love that for us!

however, i am glad that poc!vackers aren't canon. why? because imagine if fitz was canonically poc. assuming the love triangle goes the same way it canonically does, we'd be playing into the somewhat racist trope of "love triangle between a white guy and a poc guy where the poc guy loses the love triangle". also, think about all the ways that shannon has assassinated fitz's character, especially in stellarlune. it would not be great if fitz was canonically a poc. people already hate fitz for his perceived "anger issues", and that's already a stereotype associated with many men of color.

biana is barely present in the story. in my opinion she has little to no actual personality, and her arcs are heavily glossed over. she's also been "rejected" by keefe, so to speak, for sophie, a white girl. if she was canonically poc, it simply would've added yet another poc background character who has no actual bearing on the story.

in conclusion, while i do adore fanon poc!vackers, making them canonically poc would not have been a good move, so i am actually glad that the vackers are not canonically poc.

(note: i say this as a poc myself, and once again i'm not saying that you shouldn't headcanon poc!vackers. fanon vackers are much better and more fleshed out than canon vackers, anyway.)

[im-cool]

my only requirements for kotlc movie casting

somewhat age accurate, I just want to avoid another PJO movie disaster

the vackers are poc. no context needed.

no white washing any characters that are poc.

dex and Sophie are around the same height

[kale-of-the-forbidden-cities]

6 for the fandom asks!

"something you see in art a lot and love"

hmmm i know it's a classic, but poc vackers :> and also just little details

[tam-shade-song]

Ok, so out of these three fic ideas which would y’all like to see the most?

a. Kotlc Frankenstein AU as close to the OG book as possible where Sophie is Forkle’s monster. No Neverseen, no ships, just a lot of Angst and found family. Poc Vackers, Vietnamese Songs and Nonbinary and morally gray Sophie.

b. Kotlc Band AU told from Tam’s perspective. Ship will either be Kam or Kitz ( Keefe x fits) or Sokeefe. Tell me which ship you think it should be in the tags, I want the public’s opinion. Story focues around Tam being FtM trans and coming to terms with his identity as a teen music star. Lots of Platonic Glam and platonic Sotam.

c. Marauders Starchaser fic told from both James and Reggie’s POV. James narrates the past and Regulus the present as they try to come to terms with their relationship and fight the Dark Lord. Rosekiller, with lots of Slytherin skittles bc I love them.

[aspenaspenaspenaspenaspen]

also im sorry about that rando that was so RUDE, after i started drawing i understood why everyone draws a lot of the characters as poc, you can only draw so many white people before it starts to feel repetitive

im @frizzle-mcshizzle btw this is just my main

Hiiiiii

Thank you so much, and I agree with you, I feel like there are a whole lot of white characters in Keeper of the Lost Cities, which isn’t a bad thing, but I love poc headcannons for characters (especially the Vackers) because I feel like it can help mix things up a bit! I personally don’t draw the Vackers as poc as like, a statement, or anything, that’s just sorta how I imagine them I guess.

Anyways thanks for reaching out, and I saw your request so I’ll try to draw that soon! (soon as in like, a few weeks)

[crymeariveronceagain]

HEY THE COOLEST PART IN STELLARLUNE IS WHERE SOPHIE SWEARS AND FORKLE ADMITS TO HAVING PREVIOUSLY BEEN MARRIED TO GREYFELL AND WHERE KEEFE CAME BACK TO THE LOST CITIES WITH GUCCI AND PRADA AND TALKED LIKE AN INFLUENCER AND DEX JUST STRAIGHT UP CONFIRMED THAT THE VACKERS WERE POC LIKE I LOVED THAT PART WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT YET