#possibly less

[rigelmejo]

@earlgrey--tea you asked who learned French just by watching TV shows and I'm thrilled you asked.

Here is the paper Peter Llewellyn Foley published: Picking up a second language from television: an autoethnographic L2 simulation of L1 French learning. Looking over the paper again now, he did 1500 hours of audio-visual French material for native speakers. He read toward the end of that period for some hundreds of hours, and he talked to people in French similarly toward the end of that period for some hundreds of hours. I read the whole thing, and I recommend anyone else who's curious reads the whole thing. Because my takeaways may not be the same as another person's. The paper includes what he did, how he studied, how he tracked his study, what study materials worked best (he found children's cartoons with a lot of visuals of what is being talked about were the easiest to learn from in the first few hundred hours - and adult television where they talk about things not directly visually shown as some of the hardest stuff that he used once he had more understanding of the language).

His paper shows at least 1 person could learn French by watching shows (with children's cartoons being best at the beginning stage until you learn more words), and trying to figure out what each thing means as you hear it. He did a lot of puzzling out the sounds he heard, using context and guessing what was being talked about (for curiosity's sake he did the opposite of what ALG Automatic Language Growth articles tend to suggest people do). He did not do any reading later sometime after 1000 hours, and it's fascinating how different he imagined French spelling was based on his guesses from the sound, compared to how it is actually spelled. He did use some graded readers for learners once he was reading.

He did not look any word translations up when watching all those shows. He personally makes the guess that if he HAD looked up words, if he HAD used French subtitles, and if he had focused entirely on children's shows at first, his progress might have taken less time. But his experiment did not do that, so it's only a guess, and actual success of people who've looked up words should be referenced instead for how successful or not it is (people like r/Refold learners look up words while watching shows), and he did not use any video materials made for language learners but my personal thinking is that Comprehensible Input type lessons at the beginning stage may have worked even better than children's cartoons.

To me, his level of understanding and ability to do things lines up fairly well with Dreaming Spanish's roadmap estimated hours to do X things. That makes sense to me as Peter basically studied with stuff made for native speakers, which eventually became more comprehensible. And Dreaming Spanish is designed to be fully comprehensible to a learner, until they can comprehend stuff for native speakers. I imagine Peter had a harder time initially, but as an English speaker learning French, with all the cognates, maybe he didn't have to learn as much to cross the threshold into comprehending children's shows as someone learning a language with no cognates.

I wrote my in depth thoughts about his paper here but it's mostly just rambling.

[oshidorifuufu]

im convinced maybe like 3 people care i exist

[msburgundy]

love threatening to give my sister my cats for Christmas

[cesium-sheep]

got phone and prescription refills sorted out, downloaded all the humble bundle manga I didn't already move over from my old computer (even the stuff I don't personally care to read), now I'm sorting through my browser favorites folder, which has been randomly nested further with every computer and never once been cleaned out for dead links or things I don't care about anymore. some of these are pre-2010. I do not need 500 cheezburger network bookmarks of extremely mediocre stolen images but I will not delete indiscriminately.

[beif0ngs]

I had a different name back then, you know. Powder. You kind of remind me of her.

[hinamie]

how many hoodies can i give this kid

[magemance]

[egophiliac]

quick little stress-relief doodle

[densewentz]

trying to enjoy Veilguard in the ever-incendiary Dragon Age fandom like

[oscarlovesthesea]

ok but he was fully flirting here. I think it's so funny that Charles was like "idk if I'm in love with you but we have all eternity to figure it out" and then literally an episode later he was like "welp time to start thinking about this!" and immediately started openly flirting with Edwin. you go bisexual king

[keirahknightley]

One of the details that makes “Adolescence” so extraordinary is its camera work. Each of the series’ four hourlong episodes is a oner, meaning it was filmed in one shot with no breaks for editing. It’s a style of filmmaking that Barantini, who’s known for his work on the movie “Boiling Point,” has mastered. But the Stephen Graham-starring series doesn’t just use its one-shots as a cheap gimmick. Every minute the show progresses without cutting away from its cast, the tension of this high-stakes story racketing up another degree. So incorporating a drone shot into the mix is extra impressive.

According to a thread posted by Netflix’s U.K. and Ireland X account, the director of photography carried the camera and followed Jade (Fatima Bojang) as she walked to a traffic light, a shot that helped indicate that the school day had ended. That’s what the audience sees. But behind the camera, the team attached the camera to a drone before Jade crosses the road. That camera then flew roughly 0.3 miles to the murder scene where a second team was present. That team of grips along with a camera operator then caught the camera just in time to capture a close-up shot of Graham’s grieving father, Eddie.

“Easy,” the post joked. (x)

Adolescence (2025) - Episode #1.2

[corviiids]

to this day i can't get over how stupid it was to remove the headphone jack from phones. now if you want to use wired headphones you have to use the charging port. and then they made a stupid little external adapter you have to plug in that sticks out of your phone and advertise it as Hey now you can listen to music AND charge your phone at the same time! what an innovation! if only we could have done that before! the thing i want most from these increasingly sleek and efficient shapes and designs is to have a bunch of external bullshit sticking out of it to make it as clunky as possible! next they will remove the call function from your phone entirely and in order to make phone calls you will need to attach it by a twirly cable to an external keypad that plugs into the wall, and to enhance the speaker/microphone you'll be able to set your nice neat rectangle into a banana shaped device that sits nicely against your ear and mouth. and that's what we call innovation

[komashkathesilly]

plastic lingerie

[morspritt]

Can I interest you in some AU JonGerryMichael?

(They need a new name, STAT.)

[irukasito]

[lavenderprose]

'He would not fucking say that' only it's 'That child would not speak in full fucking sentences.'