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The Elf of the Rose
So in the prettiest rose on the rose tree (I thought they were bushes but, whatever) lives an invisibly small elf (also very pretty though that seems rather unimportant). He lives a pretty charmed life in his pretty rose house in the pretty garden where the rose tree grows.
One day he decides to take a long ass walk on the vein of a leaf to count his steps (man was ahead of his time), but because he is the littlest of guys (invisibly so) and started to late in the day, night hits before he gets half way. Things are cold and the roses are closed, he is having a bad time. But he recalls an arbor with honeysuckle (which cannot close up) and plans to go there to sleep.
On his way he overhears to love birds (humans to be precise) complain the the girl's brother hates her beau and is making him go away for business. The girl is hella dramatic and cries and kisses a rose so hard it opens up before she passes it to her lover.
The elf said to himself
and ventures inside to rest. But this dumb lover's heart is beating so damn hard our littlest guy cannot sleep! Also, he (like his sweetheart) keeps violently mackn’ on this rose.
Judgy brother shows up, lookin’ gloomy and wicked as hell, and fuckin’ stabs the fool to death while he’s kissing the rose. He cuts off his head and buries the body and head under the linden tree (brutal). He conveniently explains that this was his plan all along, because everyone would assume he died or disappeared on his business trip and then his sister would move on (absolutely unhinged behavior).
Bro accidentally brings the littlest guy with him in a dried linden leaf on his hat, who is horrified and angy at this situation. They get to bro’s house early in the morn, which gives him the time to go creepily laugh over his sister (dreaming about her boo) like a freak and accidentally deposit the leaf on the window sill.
Our littlest guy goes to the girl while she sleeps with all his indignation and spills the beans and tells her if she thinks she’s simply dreaming a linden leaf will be on her bed as a sign when she wakes.
She sees and believes and is gut wrenched with no one to talk to. The elf sees the window is open but is too invested to leave, so he parks himself in the monthly rose bush (so this one's a bush, what's the difference?) in the window.
Bro keeps coming by without a glimmer of guilt, so when night rolls around she goes to investigate and finds her lover and considers pulling a Juliet, but instead chooses to take up man’s severed head, clean him off and kiss his dead lips (that’s some gothic ass shit if I’ve ever heard it) and then. Takes. Him. Home. (and some jasmine too)
Then she got a big old pot and hid his head inside and planted said jasmine. The elf felt like this was enough sadness for him and dipped, only to find that his rosebush was withered, leaving him melancholy as hell.
He found a new rose to live in but kept coming back to home girl's room, watching her waste away, seemingly giving her life force to her jasmine plant through her tears and kisses.
Her bro told her not to be so weird, not understanding why she cared so much about this stupid plant (her lovers head was rotting inside).
Our littlest guy takes pity on her sleeping one day and pulls up to talk about more positive things from his life, in hopes of improving her dreams. And it did, as she dreamed of her lover. And the jasmine grieved with her the only way it knew how, by blooming beautifully.
Her bro got weirdly possessive of the plant and stole it to put in his room by his bed (I am both sensing a pattern of concerning behavior and some dark irony here).

The elf decides this is the time to spill the tea to the new flower spirits who say "we already know. We are born of this tea. It came installed." Our boy didn't understand how they could be so calm about it, so he told the gossip to the bees, who responded much more satisfyingly by telling their queen, who decided the proper response was to murder the lout.
But before they could, gothic girly dies and that night the jasmine spirits armed with poison go to whisper nightmares in the murderers ears and stab his mouth with poison, claiming their revenge for the dead.
Our littlest guy, the queen bee, and bee army rush over the next morning, only to find people hanging around claiming the scent of the jasmine killed him (oddly not that far off). The elf figures out what happened and explaines to the queen, who instructs her army to tend to the plant.
The humans, not understanding, want to get rid of the bees and have some poor sap remove the plant, which inspires one bee to sting, causing the man to drop the pot and reveal the lover's skull, which in turn reveals the murder to all.
The bees rejoiced and sang of the flowers and the elf for taking revenge and uncovering a murderous plot.
TLDR: an invisible flower elf uncovers a murder of a girl's lover by her brother. He gives her the deets to find his body, retrieve his head, and bring it home to plant jasmine on top of.
She is sad, her brother's mad and steals her bloomed pot of jasmine away. Elf spills the tea to the flowers (who already be knowing) and then bees, who want to murder.
Sister dies, flowers take revenge, bees and elf come by and see some people at the aftermath. Bees sting some dude for removing flowers, revealing skull which tips humans off to the plot, bees rejoice and praise the jasmine and elf for their good deeds.
#the elf of the rose#was written by (to no one's surprise)#hans christian andersen#man was moody as hell#and loved to anthropomorphise#especially plants#fairy tales summarized#retelling references#this story haunts me#i need others to know about it#i feel like the little elf#i just have to spread this hot goss#if the queue fits
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Excuse me while I go cry in the corner😭
Now I need to decide if I should change it
#I'm once again using ''the lunatic of Etretat'' as the pose reference#thats the painting of the woman holding the log dressed as a baby#like if that doesn't scream “there's no name for a mother losing her child” then I don't know what does#Except rather than a log I gave her the horn of plenty since that's one of her symbols#but its barren since her child is gone#tagamemnon#greek mythology#art#digital art#stories from styx#stories from styx meme#stories from styx prematurly made fan art#fan art#demeter#persephone myth#i also added the frostbrite? from when she tells zeus to fuck off#I once again also gave her gecko eyes because for some reason those little guys fall under her#and you know what? good for her#greek myth art#greek mythology art#greek gods#greek myths#casper fox#sfs#hades#persephone#greek goddess#demeter goddess#greek myth retellings#ancient greek mythology
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oops! all gay!
#proceeds to reference an old sonic unleashed deviantart retelling I remember adoring with werehog sonic#I forgot the name of it too 😭 all I remember is that werehog sonic had glowies...#also cool personal headcanon with espio where depending on his emotions he changes colour#if you look closely he's turning a little pink 🥰#sonadow#werelance#?? Is that even a tag vro#blazamy#knuxadow#espilver#sonic the hedgehog#sonic the werehog#shadow the hedgehog#lancelot sonic#blaze the cat#Amy rose#knuckles the echidna#espio the chameleon#silver the hedgehog#sth
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It’s honestly ironic how Hollywood and, in general, many foreigners view Greece. To them, it’s just an aesthetic, white marble, blue seas, myths repackaged for entertainment. Meanwhile, actual Greeks are fighting through one of the hardest periods in recent years. People are rioting, demanding justice for a tragic train crash that took lives, while the government sweeps it under the rug. At the same time, neighboring countries are busy trying to claim our ancestors as their own. And yet, here comes Hollywood again, making a movie about our culture with zero Greek representation, zero authenticity, just a product to sell.
It’s frustrating to see people glamourize or defend an industry that doesn’t care about history, accuracy, or the people whose stories they exploit. They care about profit, nothing else. Greeks aren’t just some ancient ruins or myths to be mined for content. We exist, we struggle, and we deserve better than being turned into a marketable fantasy while our real issues are ignored.
#greek history#yes i am referring to the recent Nolan film#and the many retellings recently that have come out that were glorified#when a country like Greece has come a long way yet people still are trying to diminish it#it's frustrating#don't give money to these projects#instead support Greek creators#anti christopher nolan#greek myth retellings
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Am I insane or are Joker and Akechi low-key equivalent to Adam and Eve in the 3rd semester
- Maruki's palace has some heavy "Garden of Eden" themes, with it essentially being a paradise where people live free of suffering and strife but also in a kind of blissful ignorance of themselves. The highest structure is LITERALLY named Eden, with a garden and an apple tree with a snake and everything. Maruki oversees everything as God, one who gave this wonderful place and unburdened lives to people.
- 3rd semester Akechi was born out of Joker's cognition thanks to Maruki, just like how Eve was born out of Adam's rib; There's also the fact that Joker wanted Akechi alive again so that they might try starting their relationship over and due to his regret over how their relationship ended up- which parellels Adam's desire for a companion. Joker and Akechi are the only two people in Maruki's reality who feel that something's not right (at least at first), making them truly uniquely cognicient beings, kind of like how Adam and Eve were uniquely intelligent among all the other life in Eden (given that they could talk and were chosen to be the caretakers of all other creation).
- In the bible, it was Eve who convinced Adam to eat the apple and gain awareness; In the game, it's Akechi who manages to convince Joker about the truth of what's actually going on around them.
- Once Adam eats the apple, he and Eve are banished from Eden by God, forcing them and all the other humans in the future to live on Earth, where they have to suffer from hunger, illness, pain, and all the other things they never felt while in Heaven. Joker and Akechi go after Maruki with all the other phantom thieves- their consciousness allowed them to disobey their "God" and destroy his reality, causing them and all humanity to return to the original world, where they have to suffer from heartache and other emotions they were free of in his "Paradise". Not to mention that they themselves will suffer too- Joker will have to live without Akechi, mourning the relationship they could have, while Akechi will literally stop existing. If they obeyed, they could still both exist together (even if it would be in a way they don't want).
- Adam and Eve are, of course, positioned as a "pair of opposites", given that Abrahamic religions see men and women as opposite "forces". Almost every aspect of Joker and Akechi mirrors eachother, from designs through personalities to places they occupy in their lives. There's also the fact that Adam and Eve were sort of destined for eachother, made for eachother by God, just like how Joker and Akechi were destined by gods to be rivals and opposites.
- "Rebellion" in general is one of the main themes of the game, and Adam and Eve can be seen as humanity's first rebels by going against their creator (or at least that's one possible interpretation). Joker and Akechi are P5's protagonist and deuteragonist, the two main thematic characters of the game; Them being united together AS A DUO (unlike during the Shido situation, where they had the same goal but mostly worked separately) against a shared God-like opponent who is trying to take away their free will is kind of like if God wanted to take Adam and Eve back and wipe their minds, and Adam and Eve fought together like hell to stay free.
- This is really minor, but there is a Mementos dialogue about Akechi eating a single apple for lunch every day... 👀
#persona#persona 5#p5#p5r#goro akechi#ren amamiya#shuake#hatter blathers#sorry if this had been talked about before. i looked it up online and couldnt find anything#maybe i missed something?#i am a SUCKERRR for a good garden of eden/adam and eve motif.........#not sure how sumire fits in.... kain and abel in one person? lol /jk /lh#im sorry if i got something wrong about the game lol i feel like theres so many details and information you can easily overlook by accident#i hope im not delusional lol this came to me as i was falling asleep and the more i thought about it the more it made sense to me#its not supposed to be a 1:1 retelling but you know. a sort of thematic reference#sorry for any mistakes or anything like that#im kinda sleep deprived lmao
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This might just be a *me* thing, but I do find it kind of fascinating that almost every Feminist Greek Myth Retelling seems compelled to flatten Helen into a two-dimensional basic-bitch with no guilt or remorse for her actions despite the fact that self-loathing for her own beauty, a feeling of a lack of agency in the face of Aphrodite's whims and a complicated affection for and loyalty to both the Greeks and the Trojans are all major characteristics of hers in both The Odyssey and The Iliad. I'm sure this has nothing to do with the dynamics of modern feminism and patriarchy whatsoever.
#like. guys. if there's any character who's just BEGGING for a retelling from their POV other than Briseis and Lavinia#(which have already been done)#it is Helen#she is the literal quintessence of 'woman relegated to object in a competition between men'#and yet she still somehow has a more nuanced character in stories written by ANCIENT GREEK MEN (gestures generally at Athens)#then she does today#what are you people doing#classics#greek mythology#should i tag the books im referring to? yes. i will actually.#the song of achilles#a thousand ships#silence of the girls#the women of troy#(just realised that Lavinia technically isn't a creation by Greek men but snsyshdjeuds#Grecco-Roman mythology / Aeneid follows Iliad / you get my point)#anyway come at me i'm ready to be burned at the stake#oh shit i also forgot#the penelopiad
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Hey, I just wanted to restate that this is not a fandom blog. I actively worship Greek deities religiously. If you are here for fandom reasons, I'm sorry, but I would like to ask that you please leave. This is not a fandom to me; it is an integral part of my life.
#blog post#reminder#just realized that someone had ask me to share what they referred to as “fanfiction” a while back#that is extremely frustrating to me because my gods are not a fandom to me#retellings are different#but if you actively ask me to reblog a “fanfiction” about the deities I worship#I'm sorry but I will say no
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Why does everyone keep saying Telemachus is a teenager? That he’s just a kid??
I’m honestly?? Baffled?
The man is at least 20 years old??
All I can find on Telemachus’ age before Odysseus left for war is that he was an infant. Google’s shit though so maybe there’s an exact age listed somewhere that I’m just not finding in my cursory search. I did however see a few people claim he was two when Odysseus left and to be fair, “infant” is an unclear term. I personally wouldn’t assume an infant was two—I’d guess under a year old—but technically speaking “under the legal age of majority” is a valid definition.
Odysseus was gone about 20 years as stated in the original Odyssey and Epic the musical. Telemachus says so himself in Legendary that it’s been 20 years.
Telemachus, as stated previously, is around 20 years old, possibly older given the vagueness of “infant”.
Odysseus was king of Ithaca and headed off to war about that age. Telemachus is not a child.
I know Epic portrays Telemachus as being a kid, but he is a grown adult. In fact, a good chunk of the original story is about Telemachus searching for his father by going on his own voyage. Odysseus’ journey home is actually told as a story later on in the books by Odysseus after escaping Calypso.
#I haven’t found a reference to this myself but I’ve seen posts say Odysseus was king by thirteen#epic depicting Telemachus as a bby blorbo that needs to be wrapped up in a blankie and snugged is valid#but the dude is still not a teenager or a kid#my dude ends up marrying Circe in the og i think if he’s old enough to marry he’s old enough to be consider ‘not a kid’#ngl my mind was blown the first time I realized the odyssey isn’t actually about Odysseus#the story of his journey home is actually a retelling/flashback situation after he’s already escaped Calypso#Odysseus is to the odyssey what Telemachus is to epic#a segue to explain what’s been going on on the other side of the story#telemachus#epic the musical#the odyssey#odysseus#epic fandom#epic the wisdom saga#the illiad#epic telemachus#epic odysseus
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a possible arthur design for this story? i've had some trouble with him. i don't want him to look so different from canon arthur that it's not clear who he is, but i really like the idea of him having a beard. my arthur also has a different body type, he's shorter than merlin but not too short, and he's a lot fatter and hairier (partially because i think that makes him hotter, lol) - i like his design so far and i think it works with the blend of arthuriana and bbc merlin canon that this project is meant to emulate.
my friend suggested arthur with a ring of gold in his eyes to match merlin (and the flag of camelot) and i thought that was very fun! i think it works best for an older arthur once magic has been returned to camelot... here's my rendition of that concept!
any thoughts?
#edit: AH i forgot to add the chest/arm hair#he starts out the story with just a bit of scruff and ends it with a full beard. i think he grew the beard by accident during some sort of#event and he decided to keep it and then he just never changed. his nature means he loves consistency so he never really changes his hair.#he tries it shorter he tries it longer it just doesn't fit him 🤷♂️#the bit about him being hotter is just meant to be a body positive joke in a lighthearted sense i don't just view fat people through that#<- lens i'm normal#my last post works as a reference for very early in the story arthur before he grows a beard#it would be by like. end of season 1.#fun fact: he broke his nose once and it never healed right#once and future; a bbc merlin rewrite#my posts#art posts#merlin#bbc merlin#merlin bbc#adventures of merlin#arthur pendragon#prince arthur#king arthur#arthuriana#arthurian legend#arthurian mythology#arthurian retelling#art#fanart
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the cautiously negative light that the four sword is viewed with in the games never fails to intrigue me. like when you contrast it with the master sword...the master sword is viewed as extremely powerful but in a fundamentally good way. you have things like "The Master Sword, a mighty blade forged against those with evil hearts [...]"/"Link, it is extraordinary that you won the Master Sword that makes evil retreat... With this shining sword..." in a link to the past and "The Master Sword is a sacred blade which evil ones may never touch...." in ocarina of time and "The legendary blade with the power to repel evil...once wielded by the legendary hero himself!" in the wind waker and "The Master Sword is a sacred blade that evil can never touch." in twilight princess and the whole plot of skyward sword. and the list goes on!
but with the four sword you get lines of dialogue like "Be careful. It is said that the body of one who touches this blade will be shattered to pieces. It has mysterious powers..." in the original four swords and that one line from four swords adventures that reads "So you accept the fate of the one who draws this sword?" before link even draws it for SOME fucking reason. and it's SOOOOOOO interesting to me, especially considering the lore provided in the manual that when the hero of the four sword first sealed vaati and left the sword behind, the people who built the shrine around the sword didn't even believe that the sword could split somebody into four!!!! and yet. rumors spread anyway. they built the shrine and left the seal alone anyway. generations later, directly following the hero of the four sword in the timeline, you had zelda telling link to "be careful" around it anyway. it's like the only game in which the four sword is viewed as wholly positive is the minish cap, which makes sense because, y'know, we as players and the characters in the game know that it used to be the picori blade, a blade of light, the "sacred sword", that came as a gift from the minish and was once used by the hero of men. and it was reforged into the four sword by a child wanting to save his friend! it's also a good sword! and the characters in the game ALSO KNEW THAT because link was running around using it to change people back after they were turned to stone!
so like. did the hero of the four sword just have really freaky vibes or something. because HE'S the apparent turning point when it comes to how the sword was viewed by the general populace. he's the guy who literally made the surrounding townsfolk be like "well we don't BELIEVE this story about that kid who wandered in out of nowhere magically splitting into four people............but yeah no we're not going to chance it. let's build a shrine. let's carve vaati being defeated by the four swords into stone as a message to future generations." man they've got the hero of light all the way down in the child timeline during four swords adventures freaking out about "accepting the fate of the one who draws this sword" what HAPPENEDDDDDD
#for the millionth time. WHAT'S HIS FUCKING DEALLLLLL WHY IS EVERYTHING SURROUNDING HIM SO FUCKING WEIRDDDDDD#WHY WERE HIS SPLIT SELVES REFERRED TO AS 'ENTITIES' AND 'BEINGS' IN DIFFERENT RETELLINGS OF HIS LEGEND#i feel like that one fucking 'i've connected the two dots/you didn't connect shit/i've connected them' meme#except i actually haven't connected shit. it's just a bunch of newspaper clippings pinned to a board with red thread connecting them#fs#mc#fsa#txt
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So I have the complete collections of both Hans Christian Andersen and Grimm Brothers fairy tales.
Unsurprisingly, many did not make it into popular canon. But I love fairy tales (and their retellings). So, for myself and anyone else who is interested I'm going to start going through these less well known tales and summarize them here.
I will try to consistently tag them with their title, collectors/author, #fairy tales summarized, and #retelling references for anyone who wants to follow along (or block).
#i already have some ideas to start with#there are so many weird ones that I want to talk about#fairy tales summarized#retelling references#fairy tales#hans christian andersen#brothers grimm
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Why hello newly introduced characters Miss Monster-in-a-few-minutes and Lady is-going-to-die, can't wait to see what happens next in the story
#starkid#cinderella's castle#starkid cc#yes this is about justine and lucy#because we love a gothic horror reference#side note pls starkid make a gothic horror retelling sometime
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The idea of Lancelot having a sister that has ties to King Arthur is an absolutely fascinating concept but the evidence for it is scant at best, like?
I have yet to find evidence for a) Pandragon/Pandragus and b)the source included. Baudin Butor doesn't show up in any capacity online outside of this page! I'm really curious where this story came from.
#Sure people retelling it can have Lancelot have a sister regardless but it'd be interesting to read where it came from. Is it a folk tale?#Who knows!#Arthurian#Arthuriana#Lancelot du Lac#the moral of the story is always cross-reference what you read online folks
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It’s important that the first revelation of Nissa Nissa is accompanied by some level of skepticism from Salladhor Saan and aversion on Davos’ part. It doesn’t sound right that Azor Ahai chose to sacrifice his wife for a magic sword. It shouldn’t sound right.
“A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. ‘Nissa Nissa,’ he said to her, for that was her name, ‘bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.’ She did this thing, why I cannot say, and Azor Ahai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart. It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon, but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.
“Now do you see my meaning? Be glad that it is just a burnt sword that His Grace pulled from that fire. Too much light can hurt the eyes, my friend, and fire burns.” Salladhor Saan finished the last grape and smacked his lips. “When do you think the king will bid us sail, good ser?”
[…] A true sword of fire, now, that would be a wonder to behold. Yet at such a cost … When he thought of Nissa Nissa, it was his own Marya he pictured, a good-natured plump woman with sagging breasts and a kindly smile, the best woman in the world. He tried to picture himself driving a sword through her, and shuddered. I am not made of the stuff of heroes, he decided. If that was the price of a magic sword, it was more than he cared to pay.
Not only does it not make sense that Nissa Nissa would agree to her husband’s request, it’s also telling how Salladhor Saan expresses relief in knowing that King Stannis didn’t actually forge Lightbringer. Because forging Lightbringer means human sacrifice. And why should one be deprived of their life, even if it’s for a magic sword? Davos is very right to be creeped out by it.
The theme of sacrifice shows up quite a bit in ASOIAF and Davos I isn’t the first or last time. The very first chapter in the series, Bran I, tackles this idea with Jon and the direwolves.
“Lord Stark,” Jon said. It was strange to hear him call Father that, so formal. Bran looked at him with desperate hope. “There are five pups,” he told Father. “Three male, two female.”
“What of it, Jon?”
“You have five trueborn children,” Jon said. “Three sons, two daughters. The direwolf is the sigil of your House. Your children were meant to have these pups, my lord.”
Bran saw his father’s face change, saw the other men exchange glances. He loved Jon with all his heart at that moment. Even at seven, Bran understood what his brother had done. The count had come right only because Jon had omitted himself. He had included the girls, included even Rickon, the baby, but not the bastard who bore the surname Snow, the name that custom decreed be given to all those in the north unlucky enough to be born with no name of their own.
Their father understood as well. “You want no pup for yourself, Jon?” he asked softly.
“The direwolf graces the banners of House Stark,” Jon pointed out. “I am no Stark, Father.”
Jon, though he may desperately desire to have his own piece of magic, would not sacrifice his siblings for it. He wouldn’t dare to deprave the girls, Arya and Sansa, of their own magic even when it might be very easy to do so. This is a pretty stark contrast (pun intended) to Azor Ahai and his Nissa Nissa. Azor Ahai’s first line of thought was to sacrifice his wife whereas Jon’s was to sacrifice himself. Sure Azor Ahai got his magic sword, but Jon’s self-sacrifice is not in vain either because he later earns his own wolf, who turns out to be even more special than the rest in the pack.
Bran IV kind of alludes to the idea of self sacrifice through Old Nan’s retelling of the last hero:
So as cold and death filled the earth, the last hero determined to seek out the children, in the hopes that their ancient magics could win back what the armies of men had lost. He set out into the dead lands with a sword, a horse, a dog, and a dozen companions. For years he searched, until he despaired of ever finding the children of the forest in their secret cities. One by one his friends died, and his horse, and finally even his dog, and his sword froze so hard the blade snapped when he tried to use it. And the Others smelled the hot blood in him, and came silent on his trail, stalking him with packs of pale white spiders big as hounds—”
Though the one we know is called the “last hero”, notice that it’s not a title but a mere descriptor; there were many heroes before him who died and he was the last one standing. There is a human toll in this legend, but it’s implied to be self sacrifice. It’s also interesting that though there is mention of a blade, it is the children of the forest’s magic that is key. This does kind of bleed into what we know about the Night’s Watch and its relation to the long night. The Night’s Watch victory was a group effort, rather than the actions of any one man.
We have several legends surrounding the long night that work, but only one involves the cost of sacrificing someone else (that we know of). This might be where GRRM is headed with Stannis and his creation of Lightbringer. Sure Azor Ahai did get his magic sword, but it doesn’t negate the steep human cost. GRRM has lowkey confirmed that Stannis is sure to burn Shireen. And rather than this sacrifice not working, I think it’s more likely that it does work. Stannis does indeed create the flaming sword. But this will be directly weighed by other (self) sacrifices made for the same purpose. Stannis’ sacrifice of his daughter won’t work any better than other characters who choose to sacrifice themselves even when knowing that they are not going to go down as individual legends; I think Jon Snow will once again be the prime example of this, as he has already resigned himself to being a shadow in history despite initially wanting the opposite. Maester Aemon was right in saying that
[…] all deceive ourselves, when we want to believe. Melisandre most of all, I think. The sword is wrong, she has to know that … light without heat … an empty glamor … the sword is wrong, and the false light can only lead us deeper into darkness, Sam
The sword is wrong. Azor Ahai is NOT one to be emulated. Rather, he should be a cautionary tale. He is not any more special for his sacrifice than what the last hero or the men of the Night’s Watch did, even though we know his name but don’t know theirs. GRRM answered the question regarding sacrifice before he even posed it. To make someone else pay the price is flat out wrong. The only true and worthy sacrifice is really that of the self.
#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#azor ahai#the last hero#stannis baratheon#jon snow#the night's watch#didn’t put in the post but if Jon’s ADWD dream turns out to be true and he does gain his own flaming sword i tend to think he’ll get it#by giving up himself or part of himself in the process#jon is perhaps the most self sacrificial character in this series#which is why theories that dany will be his nissa nissa miss the mark almost entirely#if jon is to be a hero he will do it by sacrificing himself not someone else#he already demonstrated this in agot when he refused a direwolf and again in adwd when he refused winterfell#stannis is meant to be his foil so we could see them being weighed against each other#not to mention that jon’s adwd dream is very much a last hero retelling with references to his companions falling#and him outlasting them though there’s a really interesting reference to him killing robb and ygritte#but I think it’s more to do with killing his own desires to remain at the wall - in addition to his feelings of guilt and abandonment
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Maybe that wouldn't fix my problems but will help going through them.
#featuring my rogue trader whos just a photo of my cat#warhammer 40k#dreadnought#i love those silly guys#i would love to sleep on ones lap while their retell their stories of the former glory#i made him an ultramarine as a reference to a youtube video distrubing a drednought by dreadanon#I WOULD BE THE ONE TO DISTURB THEM PLEASEEEEEE#I LOVE DREADNOUGHTS#PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO ITS SO FUNNY
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orphydice is devestating so here's an essay and also why you should vote for them in the @tragic-ships-tournament
"All I've ever known" is a song about the two love birds on their wedding night.
Eurydice was always alone, out in the cold by herself,. Surviving by herself, no commitment other than to her self. All she's ever known was the world outside, no warmth no compassion. The she found it, all of the stuff she had never experienced in Orpheus. Warmth, compassion, commitment, love, and a home. Eurydice had spent so much time alone, she didn't even know what being lonely was - until she met Orpheus. She had only known how to hold her own, her her self to keep herself warm. Now she holds Orpheus, and Orpheus' hold of her keeps her warm. Being in Orpheus' arms and sunlight makes her forget the trial of living for moments.
Orpheus had experienced the world in opposition to Eurydice, Orpheus knew more comfort than pain. Then he saw Eurydice alone, against the sky, against the world, and all he wanted to do was hold her tight.
"I knew you before we met, and I don't even know you yet. All I know's you're someone I have always known." Orpheus's declaration to Eurydice, they're both soulmates. Cosmic Lovers, as Anaïs Mitchell likes to call them. A relation to how often real life lovers feel as if they've known their love all their life - even though it's only been only a fraction of time. These lyrics are an allude to the fact that their story is a time loop. He feels as if he already knows Eurydice, because he does. He's known her, and he will know her. They're cursed to fall in love with each other for all of eternity. Forever cursed to be soulmates. To be two sides of the same coin, and then for that coin to be melted down. Perpetuity.
"I'm gonna hold you forever. The wind will never change on us. Long as we stay with each other." The vows that Orpheus says to Eurydice at the end of the song. Then they both vow, "Then it will always be like this".
This, as I am certain we are all aware, is true, for the time being. There's a storm coming on and sadly neither can escape it. Eurydice getting the forefront of it. She goes out searching for food while Orpheus works on his miracle song.
During these hunts, Eurydice ends up meeting Hades - the King of the Underworld who is looking for a canary. He sees Eurydice is weak and in suffering so he makes her an offer unbeatable; a warm place to lay, a transaction. In return for her. In return for Eurydice to work in his factory, in Hadestown. She'd never go hungry again, she'd never be tired. Hades let Eurydice rest on this offer, to which, she went back to Orpheus with intent to ask him. Orpheus was too busy working on his song to notice her calls. Orpheus believed he could change the world with his song, and he did, but before that he lost his world.
Upon the surface Eurydice only knew suffering and doubt, down below on the metal sheeves of Hadestown, she only knew suffering and doubt. It's written in the stars for her to never be at true peace, the only time during her time loop she knows peace, is in the arms of Orpheus.
Eurydice takes Hades' job offer, and thus signs her life away. Sleeping was better than being a wake in pain for her.
'Wait for me' is pinnacle, the heart. It's Orpheus plight and fight for Eurydice. He finds out she's dead, she's dead and he never got to say goodbye; because he wasn't listening. Orpheus was full of grief and mixed emotions. Mad at himself for not listening, mad at the world for causing this. Causing the death of Eurydice. Orpheus was so distraught at this loss, that he denied the fact that Eurydice was gone and he was determined to bring her back to him. He begged her to wait for him, promising that he'll get her back. If that isn't love ??? Orpheus trekked through the River Styx, made stones weep and part for him. His love for Eurydice inspired INNANIMATE objects into giving him a chance to battle fate and the stars. All for Eurydice.
'epic iii' tells the story of hades and persephone, and while this post is propaganda for orphydice, it's mandatory to talk about it. epic iii is Orpheus singing about how to opposite (Hades and Persephone) came to be, just like Eurydice and him, to Hades in a plea and act of begging to get Eurydice back. Orpheus' put himself in Hades' shoes in order to ask that Hades step into his and to see Orpheus' devotion for Eurydice. A lot of epic iii uses recycled lines from 'All I've ever known'.
"I know how it was because he was like me, a man in love with a woman", a line where Orpheus' identifies with Hades, in hopes of reaching him. It works.
Hades allows Orpheus and Eurydice to go. But on one condition, a test. In order for both of them to walk out of Hadestown alive, Orpheus must walk in front, and Eurydice in back. If Orpheus looked back to see if Eurydice truly was there, she'd go right back to Hadestown, and Orpheus would reach the surface without the one who travelled so far to bring back.
'Doubt comes in' is quite possible one of, if not the most important orphydice song after wait for me. It's the song where Orpheus truly starts to question everything, question the Gods, question fate, question himself, but most importantly question Eurydice. He's filled with doubt that Eurydice is really there. If she's truly following right behind him. Orpheus wonders if a cruel trick is being played on him via the Gods. Why would Eurydice follow him back, into the cold and dark again, when she could stay in the warmth of a factory. Eurydice calls out to him, but he doesn't hear; too wrapped up in his own thoughts, doubt and fear, again.
"And the darkest hour of the darkest nights, comes right before the spring" - lyrics Eurydice sings to Orpheus, reassurance that they'll leave the cave together, that they'll survive the darkness and walk into light together. Orpheus turns as she repeats this stanza. Orpheus realises she was right behind him all along. Eurydice smiles at him as she fades back into the electric city.
Orpheus walks the surface alone after, struck with grief. His second chance gone. Down below in Hadestown, they all raise cups for him.
bro like imagine being really cold then some oldie in silver invites you into his tavern for warmth and then you find the love of your life there and you guys really get a long and he's a poet who's working on a song which is like magic because flowers start blooming. and then you have to go out and look for food because otherwise you'll starve but it was fruitless in both ways because 1. no food achieved and 2. you fucking die because this silver fox offers you a job in the hottest new factory in town. and then you work there and then suddenly you love your poet shows up to take you home ?? then you not allowed but then poet boy's little ditty works and now you can go home but only if he walks in front of you and you can never look at each other because if you do you die again. then this boy looks whether by accident or not and you and now you're dead again. but boom it turns out you live in a time loop so your forever cursed to live this out, forever cursed to suffer and to love. insane like, imagine. tragic. devestating. calamitous.
Hadestown a story of grief, 'Wait for me' being denial, 'If it's true' being anger, 'Chant (reprise)' and 'epic iii' collectively being bargaining, 'doubt comes in' being depression and finally, 'road to hell (reprise) and 'We raise our cups' being acceptance.
Orpheus tried. and that was enough. Maybe it'll work out for them one day. TRAGEDY!!!!!! TRAGIC I TELL THEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE SOULMATES IN MORE WAY THEN ONE. ORPHEUS THE OPTIMIST TO EURYDICE'S REALIST. ORPHEUS SAW HOW THE WORLD COULD BE AND EURYDICE SAW HOW TO WORLD WAS. SHE NEVER GOT TO EXPERIENCE THE WORLD HOW IT COULD BE. BUT BECAUSE OF HER DEATH AND ORPHYDICE'S FIGHT. IT'S WHAT THE WORLD TURNED INTO. IT STARTED TO HEAL. BECAUSE OF THEIR LOVE.
anywayss here's link <3 vote for them please i will give free robux (i will not)
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