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how sam is paralled with john and dean is paralled with mary...
Oh, that's an interesting topic; thank you for the ask! I know a lot of people point to the opposite parallels (Dean to John, Sam to Mary), and I'm not trying to say that they're not present, but I think noticing the parallels you mentioned is also really important. I'll try to go a decent length and not get too verbose, but a lot of the parallels in this show are really cool, so I might not succeed :)
So, for Sam and John: perhaps most obviously, you've got the overtly paralleled narrative as regards their love interests. The way Mary and Jess died in the same manner; the way both immediately became obsessed with the revenge; the way they jumped both-feet-in towards revenge. (For an example of an overt canon conversation about this, I can refer you to s01e21 "Salvation", where Sam is nonplussed when Dean states that "it's not worth dying over" killing the demon.) We didn't really get to see how John would react if a family-member-but-not-love-interest were killed, but we know that Sam reacts obsessively when Dean dies and throws himself into hunting again, most notably in "Mystery Spot" and between seasons 3 and 4. And we do have a clear cinematic parallel for how they react when Dean's in a slowly oncoming danger and a demon-deal is on the table; I've included screenshots of when John was summoning Azazel compared to when Sam was summoning Ruby; the similarities in camerawork/layout are pretty clear.
It also bears mentioning that Sam shows a lot of the same almost... clinical? way of looking at hunting. He's a little less pragmatic at the beginning, but that disappears before long; he's the one who wants to bring Adam into hunting instead of letting him keep his normal life (s04e19 again); he was willing to let and/or encourage Lester to sell his soul to find Dean when he was a demon (s10e04 "Paper Moon"); his willingness/active desire to remove the Mark from Dean's arm despite them all knowing it could harm countless innocent people (s10e23 "Brother's Keeper"); and, though I haven't gotten here in canon yet, there's the line about "I know you think that you can use him as some sort of an interdimensional can opener, and that's fine. But don't act like you care about him, because you only care about what he can do for you." (s13e03 "Patience") I admit that I don't know for sure if this is an accurate assessment of the situation, but the fact that I would believe that it's true says something.
Sam and John also both have a tendency toward similar personalities. Both place responsibility for Sam at Dean's feet... which is oddly at cross-purposes with a lot of Sam's personality (by which I refer to previous points about how Sam has a lot of his motivation rooted in moving out from Dean's overprotective tendencies, proving he's not a child, showing he can handle himself, etc.). They leave Dean with a lot of the burden of curtailing Sam's self-control (see: s02e01 "In My Time of Dying" --- John's famous save-him-or-kill-him order --- compared with s02e11 "Playthings" ---when Sam, while drunk, demands that Dean kill him if he's out of control). Also, they have a tendency to lash out to vent anger (whereas, say what you will about Dean, but he usually hides pretty much every emotion until cornered).
As for Dean and Mary... They were both raised into the life from the very beginning (whereas John --- leaving aside the as-of-yet-unknown events of The Winchesters --- only came into it after Mary died, and Sam a) came into it slightly later than Dean --- we know he didn't know about it until he was about 11, which is still too young, but is older than Dean was --- and b) only truly embraced it after Jess). Both tended to be more the home-maker types; Mary wanted the normal life away from hunting to start a family, and Dean is repeatedly shown to be "nesting" (s08e14 "Trial and Error"), as well as having parental instincts (settling down with Lisa after "Swan Song", taking care of Bobby-John in s06e02 "Two and a Half Men", pretty much any time he's protective of Sam, etc.) and there's his adorable reaction to getting a room at the bunker.
Additionally, when they lose family members, they have very different coping mechanisms from the other two; the main parallel being, of course, making their deal (Mary dealing with Azazel in s04e03 "In the Beginning" and Dean selling his soul in the s2 finale). We don't really know how Mary grieves over an extended period of time, but Dean very clearly grieves in a different manner from John/Sam. If he can't do anything to bring someone back, he usually just shuts everything down until Sam tries to talk to him about it and then lashes out.
Also, this is probably going to seem false at first glance, but I'm saying it anyway; Dean is more empathetic. Sam wants to deal with emotion more, but he doesn't really understand it in other people; most of the time he's emotionally connected to someone --- e.g. insisting that a non-human background doesn't necessarily make someone evil, latching onto the Sam parallel in any given narrative (like Alicia Barns instead of Max) --- it's because he's got a personal parallel to them. Ironically, it's Dean who makes the suggestion that Lucifer and Chuck talk things out, "I-feel"-therapy-style, in season 11, and there are other, more subtle examples (e.g. connecting with Lucas in s01e03 "Dead in the Water", etc.)
And it also bears mentioning that the interactions between both pairs are handled similarly in-show. Season 1 has Sam and John at each others throats, and Dean mediating. Dean even points this out in s04e19 "Jump the Shark" (You know, I finally get why you and Dad butted heads so much. You two were practically the same person.) Thus, it's notable that season 12 has Dean and Mary struggling to get along, with Sam more in the middle.
I don't know that these are all the parallels, but a) I said I'd try to keep the post vaguely short and b) I've been going in circles adding/deleting stuff, and my brain is a touch scrambled... feel free to add stuff on if you have it! Or to (politely) correct stuff I said! Thanks to anon for the ask; I hope the answer was enjoyable enough!
#answered asks#scripted downfall asks answered#i always come when you call (sd)#once again#idk if this is really#anti sam winchester#but i'm gonna put it down anyway#anti john winchester#dean-mary parallels#sam-john parallels
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SPEND ALL THE EVENINGS YOU CAN WITH THE PEOPLE WHO RAISED YOU / 'CAUSE ALL THE TIMES THEY WILL CHANGE // ON NOSTALGIA, GROWING UP, AND MOVING ON
Lorde Stoned at the Nail Salon // Djo End of Beginning // Katatsumori (1994) dir. Naomi Kawase (via @octoberdead) // @lettingitlinger1 // Taylor Swift Never Grow Up // 怪物 Monster (2023) dir. Hirokazu Kore-eda // Sam Haft You Will Be Okay (Simon's Lullaby) // Keaton St. James A LIST FOR NIGHTDREAMERS // @chloeinletters // Sylvia Plath Witch Burning from "The Collected Poems" // Aftersun (2022) dir. Charlotte Wells // Lorde Stoned at the Nail Salon // Banana Yoshimoto Kitchen // Moonlight (2016) dir. Barry Jenkins // John Green Looking for Alaska // 방탄소년단 BTS EPILOGUE : YOUNG FOREVER // Stephen Chbosky The Perks of Being a Wallflower // 火垂るの墓 Grave of the Fireflies dir. Isao Takahata
#starting uni soon and feeling a lot of feelings about it#on growing up#on nostalgia#on letting go#on self#on emotions#on childhood#poetry compilation#poetry parallels#web weave#web weaving#lorde#djo#naomi kawase#taylor swift#monster 2023#monster movie#hirokazu koreeda#sam haft#keaton st james#sylvia plath#aftersun#aftersun 2022#charlotte wells#banana yoshimoto#moonlight#moonlight 2016#barry jenkins#john green#bts
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like mother like daughter
#the amount of dean/john and sam/mary parallels is actually insane. kripke spn my beloved. THE wincest show#sam winchester#mary winchester#spn
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- The Family Reunion by T. S. Eliot
#supernatural#spn#mary winchester#sam winchester#dean winchester#john winchester#spnedit#supernaturaledit#*#thinking of the pilot and parallels...
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i do not remember my life before you and i hope to never see one after you
the holy bible // supernatural (2005-2020) // "the fall of the house of usher" - edgar allan poe (1839) // bridgerton (2020-) // where things come back - john corey whaley (2011) // the addams family (1991) // antigonick - anne carson (2012) // the chronicles of narnia: the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe (2005) // the other boelyn girl (2008) // the parent trap (1998) // "brother, sister, rival, friend: the longstanding effects of sibling relationships" - joshua a. krisch (2019) // pride and prejudice (2005) // "song for sasha banks" - the mountain goats (2018) // it (2017) // "the reynolds pamphlet" - original broadway cast of hamilton (2015) // little women (2019) // "the secret of siblings -- the relationship between brothers and sisters has a degree of closeness - and distance - like no other" - erica e. goode (1994) // before i fall (2017) // unknown // succession (2018-2023) // unknown // stranger things (2016-) // the perpetual calendar of inspiration - vera nazarian (2010)
#web#web weaving#siblings web#on siblings#on brothers#on sisters#aesthetic#parallels#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#the fall of the house of usher#edgar allan poe#bridgerton#bridgerton siblings#where things come back#john corey whaley#the addams family#wednesday addams#pugsley addams#antigonick#anne carson#the chronicles of narnia#the lion the witch and the wardrobe#the other boleyn girl#the parent trap#pride and prejudice#a song for sasha banks#the mountain goats#it 2017
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dean + holding his family (1, 2, 3)
#supernatural#spn#spn fan art#supernatural art#supernatural fanart#spn fanart#supernatural fan art#dean winchester#supernatural stills#mary winchester#sam winchester#supernatural parallels#sam and dean#john winchester#compilation#lexidoodledoo
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Dad, don’t you let it kill me
Devil’s Trap / How To Write A Love Letter To Your Brother - From Smoking the Bible, Chris Abani
#dean winchester#spn#supernatural#sam winchester#john winchester#spn azazel#azazel!john#parallels#my parallels#uservin#spnedit#/blood
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i’ve said this soooo many times but i cannot believe the widespread fandom take on nightmares is ‘episode that proves john didn’t hit the kids or at least that sam didn’t know about :)’ NO??? that entire episode is to directly parallel sam to max??? i really hate to break it to you guys but sam being like Damn at least we weren’t and aren’t still being regularly beat to shit by the two male parental figures in our lives 🙏 lucky to have dad fr is not the same as him saying Wow i’m so grateful dad never hit us at all. essentially he is literally like ‘if dad had got drunk more often and hadn’t channeled his energy into hunting maybe we would’ve ended up like max. guess i should be grateful he didn’t”. hello. how does that endorse an entirely violence-free parenting style. like have your own interpretation. but the text of the episode isn’t saying John didn’t hit them. the text of the episode is intentionally bringing up the concept of john hitting them, withholding direct judgement/confirmation on whether it happened and keeping it ambiguous, sure, but still bringing it to our attention.
#Supernatural withholds judgement on everything so like.#it does it well in early seasons ambiguity is good! and. Less Well in later seasons#it’s also ironic cause like. i mean they were regularly Getting beat to shit via.#. monster fighting. neglecting to protect kids from physical harm also counts as physical abuse. btw.#but that’s like. the obvious takeaway#and so is dean’s little Look at the end of the ep which is obviously meant to imply that he doesn’t agree with sam. which. well#but like. idk it’s a widespread fandom idea too that if john did hit them he only hit dean. i even used to go by that!! but ur ignoring even#more subtext if u think that#and like#it’s Purposeful that the first psychic kid we see who sam very strongly identifies with#is a kid w a physically abusive father they write like this on purpose….#they do it again with sam in s7 too. him & amy pond r directly paralleled and we see her mom hit her on screen that eps what made me change#my mind re my opinion on this in regards to sam#anyway.#spn#oliver talks#winchester family dynamics#spn 1x14
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THE WINCHESTERS 1.05 | SUPERNATURAL 1.01
#spn#supernatural#spn 1x01#dean winchester#sam winchester#spnwin#the winchesters#spnwin 1x05#mary winchester#john winchester#parallels#spnedit#spnwinedit#thewinchestersedit#my stuff#myspn#myspnwin#cowboycoven#1k#scottstiles#tuserpris#deanncastiel#useralison
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"We're all villains in Nassau. Don't think because you're new you're any different."
[Image ID: 5 photos from Black Sails overlain with text. The pictures show Silver and Madi kissing, a close-up of Madi's face in the dark with Billy's hand holding a knife to her throat, Israel Hands and two other pirates holding the open chest of gems on the deck of the Walrus, a close-up of Madi's face looking hurt with Silver in the background in her room in the Maroon camp, and Silver pointing a gun at Flint. Text reads, "Do you have a wife? How do you imagine she would feel if she were told you were suffering some awful, degrading abuse and that the only way she could end it would be to betray your trust? How do you think she would feel if she betrayed you, knowing she likely lost that trust forever? 'And no one was harmed.'" end ID]
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#sure could've used Gene in 2006 😔😅
#life on mars#sam tyler#gene hunt#john simm#philip glenister#don't mind me ignoring current media to stay in my sam tyler feels again bc if anyone deserves a break it's him :'))#and ngl still longing to get a glimpse of gene in the future??#maybe w/ parallels to how he manhandles sam in the first ep where sam has to bodily pull him away from ranting at 21st century degenerates#not that i've thought about it a ton or anything. sigh#asljdfk and the crash still gives me a tiny jumpscare when i rewatch#lomedit#jsimmedit#dianagifs
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something something john’s idealization of mary something something canonical sam/mary parallels something something the only two women dean views as pure and innocent are his mother and his little brothersister something something dean’s obsession with sam’s purity/the perfect version of sam….
#it’s about dean/john parallels btw#sam winchester#dean winchester#john winchester#mary winchester#wincest#samdean#spn
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☆ ...on siblings & safekeeping & secrets-kept
☆ supernatural 5x02 - good god, y'all | dexter 6x12 - this is the way the world ends | supernatural 4x20 - the rapture | dexter 1x01 - dexter
please do not tag as 'ship' - this is not intended as such so fans of that please dni, thank you
#cas.art#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#debra morgan#dexter morgan#demon blood#john winchester#four horsemen#web weave#web weaving#sam studies#dean studies#meta#spncreatorsdaily#parallels#spnedit#spn fanart#dexter showtime#erm hope that suffices and ik harry and john arent here but its sooo very implied by their absence. if that makes sense#anyways shoututo to zo and jack. <3#if i had more time i would like..... add in the bits about harry telling young dexter he can never let debra know#and john telling dean to protect sam#hopefully its implied enough here lol#once again very tired. naptime#snnnzz
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#i have no idea how to feel about this one#it’s been rotting in my drafts for a good minute#sam winchester#john winchester#Spn#parallels#spn parallels#gencest
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Sam and John + Revenge Trail Weapons Molds | 1.20, 3.11
#pk rewatches spn number ?#3.11#1.20#parallels#good gifs with free tools challenge#season 1#season 3#john#sam the hunter#we probably have a lot more in common than just about anyone
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hey so this is insane
#spn stop paralleling samdean with romantic couples challenge!#spn#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#wincest#gencest#samdean#weirdcest#mary winchester#john winchester
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