#sinner adam theory

[rattlebear25]

Since I am an Adam stan and I really hope he returns in the next seasons (I believe in the Sinner Adam theory) I made a Sinner! Adam design:

+ Some expressions

Design Note:

When i was thinking the design i thought about Heaven and Hell colors contrast. Winner! Sir Pentious got a more lightful palette like white and gold when he went to Heaven so i thought Adam would have a black/red/brown palette also because he died in a rocky place. I added more spikes on him, in Hell he is more aggressive and violent.

His bird wings became dragon or bat wings and he got an evil tail like Lucifer or Charlie in their Full Demon form. He wear goat hooves like boots and his battle robe is ripped apart. The jacket is dark because his robe color was deep blue before dying so the jacket is his robe but darker. Some designs that i saw online fuse Adam's human form features like the hair crest and the goatie with his mask and it becomes his real face. His guitar can become an Axe during the fights against the Sinners, but this time his guitar is stuck in the Axe mode and can't return a guitar.

• How he relates with other characters:

Niffty: Unlike the other members of the Hotel, Adam has a scared and panicked behavior towards Niffty and insults her anytime he sees her and he doesn’t even try to touch her (who saw Episode 8 knows what I am talking about)

Alastor: Anytime Adam sees Alastor becomes furious (not as with Lucifer or Charlie) because of Episode 8. He thinks he is a psychopath because his cannibal behavior, ignoring that himself being a sadistic person too. He hates Alastor tastes in fact of musics, preferring rock songs or metal.

Lute: Lute is the only person in this list which Adam really cares for. The main reason he wants to go back to Heaven it’s her and take back his Exorcist leader title. Him and Lute shared the same interests for rock musics/bands, singing, weapons, battling and eating junk food (unlike Adam, Lute is more balanced at eat fries and hamburgers). From Lute perspective, she tries to accept Adam’s death, but she always bring Adam’s halo (the one she showed to Lilith/Eve at the end on Ep 8) as a memory of him. Lute goal is avenge Adam’s death but when she discovered that he returned as a sinner in Hell, her plans changed to save him and bring him back as her Leader and boyfriend.

I was thinking of making a full artwork of him using his Axe and some short comics idk

I love that i drew Adam with expressions that are really similar to the original one lmao

[longcastshadow]

Something I've been thinking about. I think we've got a good chance of Adam content for S2. It may not be Sinner Adam, but going over the meta stuff.

In the interview, Viv said, "Alex did the voice again." But wouldn't confirm if it was a flashback, or him coming back, etc.

Well we know from that comicon panel that S2 recording was already wrapped right before S1 premiered. Ergo, the only reason Alex Brightman would have been recording more Adam would be for S2. It can't have been for S3 or 4, those hadn't even been greenlit yet.

So, odds are high for more of our boi in S2 I think! Just hope it's not ONLY a flashback...

[demonictacobeard]

Lilith, surprised when Adam’s contact picture shows up on her phone: Correct me if I’m wrong, but you’re supposed to be dead aren’t you? I felt the deal break months ago

Adam, who got sick of his and Lucifer’s UST last night and made a move: I mostly lived bitch, I just had to ask YOU PICKED THE BORING ASS BEACHES OF PURGATORY OVER SEX WITH THAT MAN FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

[vobomon]

I feel like this theory needs more traction because it is really good.

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[randomrandomalright]

The reason I love the theory (Adam did not eat the apple) which is if you don’t know when Lucifer tempted them to eat the apple, only Eve ate it- Adam either did not do it or wasn’t there-

The reason I love this theory is because it gives a extra layer to Adam (who currently feels so one-sided) to me, him not eating the apple, gave him no moral code/compass, he doesn’t know right from wrong, he believes everything he does it right (ergo: I never a f*cking mistake in my life)- he believes what he doing is right, via what the seraphim tell him, manipulating him into doing the dirty work- the wrong thing, since he is only human who doesn’t know. Now does this excuse his actions? Not in the slightest! But does it give him a explanation to why he behave like this? In my eyes, yes! (Because he doesn’t know better!!!!)

[geeklikeagirlstudios]

Hazbin Hotel Theory

So just saw the new Hazbin Hotel trailer, and already our editor is coming up with theories. The main one is that Vaggie is NOT a sinner, but not a fallen angel either. Rather, she theorizes that Vaggie is a current angel soldier sent down undercover as a sinner by Adam so to weaken Hell/Lucifer through Charlie, only to eventually doubt her mission and "fall" for Charlie. We looked at her kinda crazy when she told us this, only for her to point out several things...

When Charlie sings confidently that she will get Heaven to back her plan to save the sinners, Vaggie is suddenly startled. She holds her head as if unsure what to say, but she also looks as if she knows something that Charlie doesn't.

She proceeds to try and get Charlie to stop for a moment, but when Charlie proceeds to continue on that there was no way she could ruin things, Vaggie looks more concerned and to remind Charlie that it was JUST A MEETING with the angels.

Vaggie continues to point out that this whole thing could be bad as if indicating that she didn't think that Charlie should go. This caused Charlie to pause and reassure Vaggie, which only seems to cause her to give Charlie what looks like a strained smile. Vaggie still seemed concerned as Charlie continued her number, and proceeded to insist that Charlie not sing to the angels. Now this could just be her knowing that not everyone likes the singing numbers, but our editor says it could also be that she knows what to expect from the angels and that Vaggie would know for a fact that singing wouldn't help if she were aware of the angels' mindset going into the meeting before hand.

2) Vaggie's apparently a "moth-demon" sinner, but when you compare her design to the other demons she really doesn't look like the usual sinners do, but:

1) Her hair shape almost resemble angel wings/robes (In Adam's case)

2) Her hair bow faintly resembles horns in some angles which the angels have

3) Her X-out eye is the same as the angel exorcists, only on the opposite side - which, conviniently, we notice the leader of the exorcists' face is completely unseen during the pilot episode. She also has a very similar build to all the exorcists.

There are other things she said makes her believe that Vaggie is a double agent from heaven, but these were the main points. And yes, she knows what Vizzipop originally planned and said about the character, but given that the show was purchased by A24, there's a possibility that some characters could have complete overhauls to their backgrounds and character plots from what was originally planned. What do you think? Could she be on to something???

[neotrix-09]

I've seen the idea that Adam will be reborn as a sinner,and I honestly love the concept,and I want to see him more as he gets character development. On the other hand,if they do another extermination...

"We've successfully slain all residents of the Hazbin Hotel,down to their most recent guest."

"He looked oddly familiar,though..."

"..."

"..."

[time-lady-the-sage]

Ding-dong, the shitass dick is dead!

If the leaks gave away the answer, keep that to yourself.

[cloverfander]

I feel there has to be something significant about Adam destroying Sir Pentious.

I mean every year sinners are killed in the extermination but and you mean to tell me only Sir Pentious could get redeemed? Only one killed while wanting/trying to be better?

Plus at the start Adam was a hologram so it’s possible he usually doesn’t come down in the exterminations or at least doesn’t actively participate with his angelic power and thus this would have never happened before.

But the kicker is that if this is what it took for a soul to be redeemed then we’re gonna need Adam (or maybe Eve 👀) to redeem more sinners.

I don’t know maybe this has already been said before, but I feel it could fit seeing as they’re the fore-parents of humanity.

[rattlebear25]

I want to make an Sinner Adam short comic of him reunite with Lute (also if EVERYONE did that but i don't care i just want to draw more Guitarspear Art yay)

Spoilers: I think i will draw 4 pages

[gayvoidobject]

In My opinion, IF Adam is in fack in hell, he will try to be an Overlord, like alastor OR he will try to be a porn star cuz he is dickmaster but sinners will try to kill him (third time lol) .

Albo i wonder if he wloud have his mask or what, cuz it was broken so yah

[fanofstuff01]

K so this was supposed to be a short post of me saying the thing about the line and then cutting it off there but I again couldn’t stop myself and went on a long rant AGAIN instead.

So here. A more well written -Though it’s still shit but this time around it actually has it’s ground properly- addition to the previous part of-

Why Adam From Hazbin Hotel Not Coming Back In Future Seasons Doesn’t Make Sense (To Me)

I really, REALLY hate this line in You Didn’t Know if Adam isn’t going to be back.

Because this line implies that there are indeed supposed to be consequences for dipshit angels in contrast with there being a reward for sinners being genuinely good.

But then Vivzie goes out of her way to tell us.. No consequences other than being beaten once? Other than being killed by a maid? Completely indifferent to Heaven itself and being kicked out of it for not being good even?

Like you’re going to say that being a murderous dick and “Doing whatever and remaining in the sky” for the longest fucking time of all angels is worth of only these??? And then a permanent rest?

-If this show wasn’t mostly taking place in the afterlife I’d say that being dead is yes the worst of the worst but.. It’s literally not? These aren’t mortal souls living in a world where they don’t know if they’ll be back from death or not? -

If you’re going to set up something like “Angels who became undeserving of Heaven should not stay there and in the sky” and peek my interest in one episode and then tell me “Oh yeah they don’t stay in sky they instead are wiped out of existence!”

I will punch you.

-I would not punch Vivzie.-

This addition and the part it’s adding to isn’t even exclusively tied to Adam even though he’s technically the topic of discussion, I know -and in future parts I will be more going into depths of to him and his missed potentials-, but you see, probably one of if not THE biggest missed potential coming from not bringing him back, also happens to conflict with the show itself. (Yeah I know Viv likes that shut up)

Not bringing him back also means, they will have to cut off EVERY angel coming back as a sort of demon and this WILL fly in the face of one of the central themes and worldbuilding of the show.

[fresitaisdaydreaming]

I'm convinced Adam basically created the rules of how to get into heaven by writing them in ink, because as sera says “not everything is spelled in ink” till it is.

And only then is the first demon rehabilitated (even tho he had to die first as a form to re judge his soul)

[pearpap-ponders]

Okay, i've been thinking about this for a while, like since I've watched Hazbin Hotel, but I've never been able to share it before because I didn't have a Tumblr. So, Sir Pentious being a human soul was able to go to Heaven after being killed because, he was seen as redeemed. However technically even though Adam is an angel, he was the first human soul to go to heaven, meaning that he was a human soul at one point. So because he was killed, do you think he'd go to Hell for his actions? And even more ironic, but do you think he'd eventually make it to the hotel because he hates being in Hell so much, that he'd want to become redeemed again? But also what happens to all the souls that they have killed in previous exterminations? Do they get sent back to Earth, go back to Hell, or what if some possibly have been redeemed and have gone to heaven? Have they never gotten a former sinner go up to heaven before till Sir Pentious, since it is possible? I don't know if anyone else has thought of this theory, but let me know your thoughts on this!

[procyonloser]

I know Vivziepop likes a lot of fanart of varying different ships even the definitely not going to be canon kind in any way shape or form.

But other people have pointed out she's liked virtually no art of sinner Adam...so seeing her like a picture of Adam and Roo as a ship just feels odd enough it's making me hmmmmm.

[shestidnevka]

Here is some of strange theory do not blame my logic tnx

So i was drawing an art with adam and lut and thought like: для нас они прикольная интересная пара а вот для каина и авеля они "отец и его новая женщина". (Im not rly sure does english mentality has same phrase for new relationship for your dad)

SO

kain was like first murderer for uknow what? Greed obviosly (i never reed bible but i google this thing) sooooo he obviously went to hell after death so my thery is abt Kain is Mammon so thats explain why he looks exactly the same like adam (they looks like triangle or Xmas tree)

I will add an art later so to u know in my imagination Adam has reborn as a sinner cus i love character and dont like the fact of his death

Картинка о которой речь в начале!!