#son of mapleshade

[nonbinary-weirdo]

Patchkit survives AU of 'Mapleshade's Vengence' and grows up in RiverClan but is plotting to bring RiverClan so much pain for reminding him he was a mistake by Darkstar and Appledusk.

This is Patchfoot

[pinliteral]

Ashfur apologist son or mapleshade apologist daughter

[lordofryoshimacoast]

Thinking about how Oakstar literally sent his own son to fight in a war, threw a hissy fit when his son died (BY FUCKING ACCIDENT AS WELL) then exiled a mother with children who weren't even old enough to really understand why this shit was happening to them.

I wonder how he felt when that mother took away his daughter as well, how he felt not seeing her in Starclan with him (he should've been in the dark forest instead of Frecklewish imo, yes she was bad but like.. It's not really cat hell worthy????)

To be fair, he'd probably never realize any of this was HIS fault. I need him thrown in a river fr fr

[t4tdanvis]

I meant like what motivates them to do evil things in general not literally “what motivates them to be evil” so like “what motivates him to kill the people he does” falls under “what motivates him to be evil”. Because yeah no, Zane’s not trying to be evil but he’s still trying to kill people which is usually objectively evil.

But if someone’s just evil from birth, then they don’t need a general motivator. They don’t need an overall reason. They can just stab a guy because he annoyed them and it doesn’t need any deeper explanation because nothing made them choose to do that aside from this guy annoying them right now. There’s no root cause or deeper reason for them choosing to be violent because they’re evil from birth!

Like if Zane’s whole thing is that Garte was abusive and often used violence towards others to solve his problems, and now the use of violence is normalized to him, then he is now not evil from birth. He’s not stabbing a guy just because he annoyed him, he’s doing it because violence is normal to him and therefore stabbing the guy is, to him, a justifiable response.

My brain's not working well but!! I think if the character is doing things for no reason (regardless of if the things they're doing are bad or not) it's a very obvious sign of bad writing! Like yeah he stabbed someone but why? Just because He's The Villain? Damn Jess great writing yeah no definitely not a 2 dimensional character

This is a problem in most of Jess's writing because it often seems like the characters are doing things Just Because? There's no reason for a lot of it other than "it's funny" or "it's dramatic" and that's!! So frustrating!! I want villain characters to be evil and irredeemable and horrible while also still being People and not just a cardboard cutout of a classic villain!

Giving a character reasons for their actions is often seen as "oh so you're justifying what they did??" when it's not!! People have reasons to do things, you don't just wake up one day and go "im bored I'm gonna go kill someone", people don't work like that even if they're objectively bad people!

[justapigeonn]

i know mapleshade being overused is no hot take in the warriors fandom anymore but you can't imagine my disappointment to find out later in the book that this voice in tigerclaw's head was never simply just his own self criticism but just mapleshade being mean to him for some reason

it would've been so interesting to see that despite how cruel he was to those around him, the one he was cruelest to in the end, was himself - that thistleclaw's brutal treatment really stuck with him in more ways than one, that he considered himself a failure if he did not push his ambitions to their very limits and succeed at what the mentor he both respected and resented failed and would not dare to do.

i also love that despite it's minor failings, this book also gives us a slight layer of nuance to his character - that despite him being a despicable character till the very end, willing and ready to kill and manipulate his way to the very top, there's still a hint of discomfort and remorse at the possibility of his former clanmates dying in the forest fire

he excuses his discomfort to mapleshade as him not being able to destroy them himself, but the horror and dread he feels is evident.

despite us knowing very little about their overall relationship, later on he's relieved to see that his former mate goldenflower is unharmed. given that we're never shown or told of any instances where's they're openly affectionate towards one another and he doesn't technically have any 'need' for her to survive (i say this with the assumption that the only big reason that tigerclaw even had kits to begin with was for a legacy and an ongoing bloodline, not for a happy family and out of sheer undying love for goldenflower), it's bizarrely sweet to me that he finds comfort in knowing that she escaped the fire, along with their daughter tawnykit.

and then, of course, the famous bramblekit scene where fireheart snatches him from the tree and the two barely escape with their lives.

this book, despite showing him committing numerous despicable actions and murder innocent cats in cold blood through his own eyes manages to give tigerclaw just a shred of humanity and care for those he once held close(ish), that despite him denouncing starclan again and again, he still whispers a silent thanks to them for saving the life of his son, that, despite his sheer undying hatred for fireheart, he puts his own pride aside for a brief moment and silently entrusts him with bramblekit's life.

when tigerclaw gave strict orders to the other shadowclan warriors to not follow him into the fire, he did so knowing that they could've seen him at his very worst - his absolute lowest point. he knew there was a large possibility that he could've easily been witness to the violent ends of his former mate and kits and lost himself there and then and potentially (in his eyes) lost the respect of his new clanmates as well, because to him in a sense, caring is a show of weakness, even for him. and idk there's just something weirdly nice about that - that despite how horrible he is there's still some depth and remorse to be found in his character and idk i just think that's neat

[wc-confessions]

resending because idk if this ever went through or if tumblr deleted it 💔💔 fuckass website bro

Mapleshade’s Novella is about Grief. Not Vengeance.

I don't like to debate about this book because there's no reasoning with people who are the equivalent of brick walls. (Maple and Freckle fans) But it's very frustrating to see that people lack critical thinking skills to the point that Mapleshade's novella has been severely misinterpreted for the last eight years. The book isn't about vengeance, and if you guys took the time to analyze the characters and see what core thing they have in common, you could easily understand that this book is about grief. 

There is no good or evil in this book, and nobody was made to be a hater. Hating any character would be foolish because the majority of you will criticize a character for doing something and then turn to defend another who has done this exact thing. That's not to say none of them have flaws, but hating any character when they are literally the same with different fonts is useless. 

The Mapleshade novella is a book about grief, and there is no good or evil UNTIL Mapleshade kills. With that being said, absolutely no one in that book deserved to die or suffer; yes, that included Oakstar and Appledusk. Not sure why I'd have to specify, but you weirdos hate fictional images to the point of wishing death and saying horrific things along the lines of wanting to torture and beat them if they were real.

Grief is a very complex emotion and makes us say and do very irrational things that we might not mean or really feel after the spur of the moment. Grief makes us do things that we would've done otherwise if we didn't feel it. The situation of Oakstar exiling Mapleshade and her kits is easy to judge and view from an outside standpoint because the readers themselves weren't there to experience or see just how deeply Oakstar's grief affected him. 

If you only sympathize with one of the characters in the book, then you don't understand what it is to feel grief and pain. Nobody has the ability to sympathize with and understand others if they cannot place themselves in another's situation and understand how they could've dealt with that situation. It's easy to just say what you would've done, but it's not until you actually understand what it is to suffer. From the start, Oakstar was shown as a kind fella, albeit very vindictive, which is understandable considering his POV of the situation with Birchface and Appledusk. 

Oakstar's grief is fueled by the betrayal he feels from a clanmate who he trusted deeply, who led him to believe that she was carrying his deceased child's kittens and being led to believe for 4 months that she was the mother of his grandchildren when in reality the cat he deeply trusted took advantage of his trust and used his deceased son's name to cover up her "crimes" and the fact that her children were fathered by the murderer of his child.

With all of these events hitting him so fast, realistically, if you were in this situation, what exactly would you do? You would want the person who hurt you to leave and be out of your space. I'm not saying that it was okay for Oakstar to banish innocent children, but it's understandable why he did that. His exile of the children was backed up in the fact that he believed their presence in the camp would bring danger. And Frecklewish, being his only child left, he'd want to do anything he could to protect her. On top of that, it was StarClan themselves who sent the sign that they would be dangerous, so if anything, the children being banished were entirely StarClan's fault. Their incompetence in this book and the grief that every character feels play a major role in this book. 

The same point I made for Oakstar also applies to Frecklewish. I often see people paint her as this sad victim when in reality she is far from that. She is very vindictive and an asshole, which are traits that were developed because of her grief. Her grief over knowing that her trusted friend lied to her and betrayed her brother's name caused her to attack a mother in front of her terrified children. Her grief caused her to lash out and wish harm on those who never deserved it. Grief isn't just sadness. It's anger; it's rage. 

The same thing can be said for Appledusk. While I don't condone cheating in the slightest, and while it isn't relevant at all to our conversation of grief, I would like to note that he did in fact love both of his mates. Him risking his life to nearly drown for Mapleshade and their kits says it all. Him jumping to take the killing blow for Reedshine and laying down his life says it all. 

Before the exile events occurred, when he met Mapleshade at the river and saved Patchkit, the text notes that while he's speaking to her, there is a deep, deep longing in his eyes, which does show that he cares and loves her despite it all. He tells her that he’s proud of her and that she and their kits are strong. Does not that say enough about how much he admired her?

 Boiling him down to a simple cheater with no other personality traits is ridiculous and shows a lot of peoples lack of reading comprehension. "Well, if he loved her, he wouldn't have.-“ These are cats. Just because they have sentient-level human thoughts does not mean you should go applying human morals and actions to them when they don't know what that is. The only thing from human society they understand is murder.

Appledusk risked his own life to jump into a flash-flooded river to save Mapleshade and stayed with her to comfort her when he brought her onto the bank. He was willing to jump in that river again when she told him their kids were trapped. Moving onto his grief because I need to explain this in as much depth and my own analysis as possible since people don't seem to understand a character's nuance or what that word even means. 

When Appledusk returns to her after trying to save their kits, the text notes that Mapleshade wouldn't see his expression and that he came wordless and didn't speak to her while taking her to their children. He had completely shut down, which is a factor also caused by grief. From my own experience of grieving and going through different stages, shutting down is a common thing that occurs in those grieving who can't feel anything other than intense sadness. 

Appledusk shutting down and turning Mapleshade away wasn't written in just for him to be an asshole. That wouldn't make sense considering the very obvious theme of this book. It's written to show how differently grief can affect others. Anyone would shut down if they had to witness the sodden corpses of children, especially if it was the parent themselves. 

During chapter four, before getting to RiverClan camp, Appledusk remained quiet and despondent until after he heard Mapleshade admit that she had purposefully led their children into a flooded river during a storm despite what he had told her early about keeping them away from the river to ensure their safety. He isn't aware of the full situation of what happened back in ThunderClan; therefore, his actions and grief are motivated solely by what he knows.

Appledusk's talking tone is shifted to being stunned, which is being shocked. It's as if your heart is dropping because you've just learned of a terrible situation or truth. Earlier in the book, Appledusk displays a great concern for the lives of Mapleshade and their kittens if ThunderClan were to find out the truth. They both willingly risked their own lives and the lives of their kittens to keep seeing each other despite how cruel the warrior code is. Which I should add, neither of them is in the wrong, and neither deserved to be punished. 

I believe this is why he referred to his actions as being a mistake, because otherwise, if he and Mapleshade had never gotten infatuated or just been more careful, then their innocent children wouldn't have had to suffer. Not sure how anyone interpreted this as him calling his wife and children mistakes, but that also just proves the point that this fandom doesn't have good media literacy. You could understand every character's POV and emotions if you just read back on some parts of the book or just took the time to actually understand each of their grief and how they handled it. 

The book also notes that Mapleshade almost winced at the pain in Appledusk's eyes when he says that. He doesn't hate Mapleshade or his children; he never did, but his grief caused him to think irrationally and not clearly think the situation through, and his grief prevented him from actually wanting to understand why Mapleshade did what she did. "I should have never betrayed my clan by meeting with Mapleshade" is a thing he says out of grief because his meeting with Mapleshade led to so many conflicting actions that harmed those around them that didn't deserve it. 

In fact, their meetings ended up hurting each other. Mapleshade's recklessness cost them their lives and their precious babies, which Appledusk then views as it being her fault and views her as a killer, which isn't a bad thing. It's an irrational response, and he feels that he hasn't had time to process the events happening. It's why he tells Darkstar he will regret everything he did because all it did was, in the long run, unexpectedly come back to hit him in the ass when StarClan ire killed their children. 

When Appledusk explains why Mapleshade and their kits were here, the text notes that his voice falters. To falter means that the speaker cannot speak normally because they're feeling emotions too intense for them to understand, which is an action also caused by grief. The pale brown warrior shook his head. “Why should I? It’s your fault that these kits are dead. I never want to see you again.” 

I will repeat this point again that Appledusk is refusing to help her because of the intense grief he feels. 

"It's your fault that these kids are dead; I never want to see you again" is a thought and emotion that stems entirely from his grief, not because he wants to "save his own ass" or wants to "suck up." Which to add during this, he never tried to defend himself when Darkstar was planning to exile him. It was Reedshine and Reedshine only. Meaning that he wouldn't have cared if he was cast out with Mapleshade as well. I do think that if he had been exiled, either way, he wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere near Mapleshade. 

Appledusk is the only character (besides Myler) who showed Mapleshade any sympathy for what happened. He feels sympathy because he had time to calm down from his grief; he refuses to harm her and only tells her to leave because he still cares for her. She is his past mate, the mother of his children, and someone he deeply trusted and still even admired. He obviously doesn't hold any more ill will toward her anymore unlike Frecklewish because he has time to calm down over the intense grief he felt losing his children, and he understands that she is hurting too. 

Some will say I'm defending these characters too hard because they "wronged" Mapleshade, which isn't the case, but I'm fine with that. Appledusk and Oakstar are particularly interesting characters to me because they both did things that directly affected and harmed each other. Appledusk accidentally killed his son, and Oakstar unknowingly led Appledusk's children to a cruel and untimely death.

I understand the book perfectly, so no criticism anyone has about my analysis will bother me. I used to hate this book despite it actually being so messy. But after taking a deeper look, I admire it a lot. It just took having more sympathy for all the characters and developing better comprehension skills for me to understand what it's truly about. 

Also going to say I'm not putting the blame all on Mapleshade either. I think the only ones truly to blame for any actions in the book are StarClan and Mapleshade when she chooses to murder. StarClan could've solved a lot of these issues but chose not to. They've been shown in other books to step in and interact with the living, but they chose to let everything spiral. I don't think Mapleshade was at fault for lying because she never actually said it was Birchface, and that assumption was pushed onto her.

However, I do fault her for the children dying. Oakstar and Frecklewish played an inadvertent role in those children dying as well. Frecklewish for suggesting and instigating the exile in the first place and Oakstar carrying it out. However, like I said before, StarClan's omen of these children being dangerous played a role in why he also exiled them, so it's more StarClan's fault than anyone else's. 

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[puppiekit]

One thing about the warriors Mapleshade hate train era of the fandom that still pisses me off actually is how people swore up and down that Mapleshade MUST be an unreliable narrator and so therefore nothing she expirienced or thought could be in any way accurate.

When in reality it was just the fandom making up bullshit headcanons out of thin air and portraying it as canon just so they can excuse Thunderclans blatant hatred/xenophobia, assault of a mother, and banishment of literal babies. Nobody wants to admit the fact that Mapleshade was severely screwed over and had every right to be pissed the hell off! (and don't get me wrong murder is inexcusable but like.... you guys baby so many other murderers in this series please stop playing)

Because outright saying "Mapleshade lying is worthy of assault and/or death" will reasonably earn you a WTF response, so people exaggerate her aggressors victimhood by making up bullshit about Mapleshade being a "baby trapper" or an "overtly possessive toxic girlfriend", and/or crafting some make-believe soppy sad backstory for Frecklewish. All to make Maples decision to lie seem worse than it in actuality was, or actively malicious in nature, and deserving of the recieved "punishment" (assault and death of her children).

Like... I cannot state enough how much it pisses me off when people discredit *the literal POV expiriences of the book protagonist* just to make up random crap about her clanmates and craft some elaborate tale where Maple is the worst and has sucked all along. When we know literally nothing about them, and especially Frecklewish, except that she made a stupid assumption, is willing to beat a mother in front of their kids, and quiet frankly didn't actually give a shit about those kids the moment she realized they weren't blood related. LOL

Like completley out of nowhere people decided Mapleshade lying was the worst crime ever commited in the history of the series... UNLESS you're literally any other character in the series to do it like Bluestar Leafpool Squirrelflight Yellowfang etc etc etc.... When they get flack for lying it's unfair and they were doing what they thought was right! But also it's completely unacceptable for Mapleshade to lie about her children's half-clan heritage in an environment where her peers are violently hateful and xenophobic. Because it hurt their feelings ... LOL

And don't even get me started on the fact that, quiet frankly, Frecklewish and Oakstar were being unreasonable from the very beginning by being hateful and blaming Riverclan for their loved ones death. They literally sent their son/brother INTO BATTLE and are now mad that he DIED? What the hell do they think happens when you send people out to beat eachother up (often to the death)??

Battle and death is such a normal and accepted part of clan culture it genuinely baffles me people dont realize that, as understandable as their grief, their anger/hatred is pretty crazy, even if Appledusk *had* killed Birchface. They were wrong to assume Birchface was the father and they were wrong to project their hatred on Mapleshade and her kits. Not a single action made by them was reasonable or excusable. You don't put that kind of pressure on a single mother who *explicitly avoided stating her kits father* and get all mad when it isn't who you assumed it to be. Like it's next level stupidity

[everybody-loves-purdy]

I’ve seen a few people lately share what warriors characters they think represent the seven deadly sins, and I’ve had a think about it too and come to my own conclusions. And I thought it would be fun to include a relevant quote for each one.

Wrath : Darktail

But it wasn't a claw Darktail lowered toward him. It was his head, as he bent down to whisper in his ear. "I will destroy you, and all the Clans, for what you did to me.”

Onestar’s Confession Chapter 29

Pride : Skystar

“That’s the problem Clear Sky.” Thunder lashed his tail. “I can’t tell you anything. You think you know it all. But you don’t! You can’t tell good from bad, you never could. But you’re so determined to be ‘right’ that you’ll twist everything to prove it. If you mistook a fox for a rabbit you’d keep calling it a rabbit while it tore out your throat, just because you’d rather die than admit you were wrong.”

A Forest Divided - Chapter 12

Lust: Ashfur

“Are you ready to fight me?” Squirrelflight demanded. “Because that’s what you’ll have to do, if you want to stop me.”

“No, I don’t want to harm you,” Ashfur meowed. “I still love you.”

Squirrelflight’s only response was to turn away from him with a disgusted hiss. Ashfur blinked and looked away briefly with a dip of his head. To Shadowsight’s surprise, he seemed genuinely hurt, as if he couldn’t believe that the dark ginger she-cat had rejected him. How could Ashfur possibly think Squirrelflight would go along with him, now or ever? Shadowsight wondered. Then he realized that Ashfur wasn’t thinking straight at all. His obsession with Squirrelflight was making him ignore what was right in front of him.

“Why are you forcing me to do this?” he asked plaintively. “If you would just admit that you love me, I could stop.”

The Place of No Stars Chapter 15

Greed: Tigerstar (I)

As Fireheart said good-bye to Yellowfang and went back to hunting, he felt a new surge of determination to bring Tigerclaw's guilt into the open. For the sake of Redtail, murdered; for Ravenpaw, driven from the Clan; for Cinderpaw, crippled. And for all the Clan cats, both now and to come, who were in danger from Tigerclaw's greed for power.

Forest of Secrets Chapter 4

Gluttony: Slash

Juniper grunted. “We shouldn’t have to go hunting when food is rotting in camp.”

“Why doesn’t Slash share it?” Raven growled angrily. “He gives the best pieces to Splinter and Beetle and leaves the rest to turn sour when we’re eating scraps.”

Path of Stars Chapter 12

Sloth: Sol

"Ask me if Sol joined in the fight," Pod rasped. Brambleclaw cocked his ears. "Well?"

"He didn't raise a single claw to help us," the old tom growled. "He wasn't even there to watch! He just strolled in here while we were licking our wounds."

"What happened then?" Brackenfur asked. Jingo twitched her ears. "If he'd admitted he was wrong, it might have been different. But he insisted that we were the ones who decided to fight, and it wasn't his fault that we lost. Then he sat down and started washing himself, and asked Jet to bring him some food."

Sunrise Chapter 11

Envy: Mapleshade

"I earned my place in the Dark Forest. But what made it worse was that the father of my drowned kits took a RiverClan mate! He promised he would only love me! They had a daughter, and she had a son, and do you know who that son was?"

Crookedstar shook his head, trying to keep up. “Shellheart," Mapleshade snarled. "Your father." Her paws were trembling. "Do you see now? Do you understand?"

"Understand what?"

"You mouse-brain! My kin should have been the leader of RiverClan, not his! If ThunderClan hadn't driven me across the river, my kits would never have died. If RiverClan hadn't rejected me, I'd be their father's mate, not some fish-hearted RiverClan queen." Her breath was coming in gasps now. "I’ve endured so much betrayal! So many cats have hurt me beyond measure. And then you came, destined for so much greatness, when you should never have been born!"

Crookedstar’s Promise Chapter 39

[bonefall]

if rainflower was given a dishonor title, what would it be?

also is mapleshade still killed by crookedstar in the BOTTE?

Definitely something related to animals they disrespect. I don't see him going as far as to hit her with "Cuckoo" but he'd want to center her cruelty and lack of compassion. "Lamprey" makes a fine choice, and there's also a disrespectful word in Clanmew for egg-laying animals that don't care for their young.

But, he would certainly not do it because Rainflower is popular. Hailstar is a smart cat, in spite of how long he spent denying the problem and justifying it (sometimes intellect just makes you better at making excuses). He knows full well that something like that could backfire politically.

There's a portion of the Clan who thinks he was wrong to punish her at all, and more who are in that nebulous state of not being totally sure if his response was justified or not. He took her child and stripped her of all status. If he went further than that, it would look like retribution... which it would be, and in another, more furious Clan, would have appeased the angry mob.

But this Clan isn't furious. The reception is mixed. Hailstar's goal isn't to make a big point, it's to protect Stormkit the way he should have done a long time ago.

The best plan of action is the action that makes this transition go smoothly. Rainflower does not need to wear a name like Lampreypool right now, to draw attention to her, to have the whole Clan be looking at her while she plays the poor, besieged victim of a cruel and unusual leader. She needs to be kept out of power, and away from Shellheart's son as the poor child recovers.

(Also Mapleshade didn't die in the Battle of the True Eclipse! Not in BB and not in canon's The Great Battle either, lmao. She's still around, chilling in the Dark Forest, haunting Applekin.)

[roverz-art-and-agere]

May you draw Autumnpaw, Mapleshade, and Moonlite together?

(Autumnpaw is the adopted son of Mapleshade and Moonlite, he looks similar to Moonlite but has Mapleshade's body structure!!) No pressure!

Parents Pillows!! I saw the gif you sent me, but i finished this before i saw :( But I hope this is good!

[milkfur]

Pre-TPB ThunderClan Family Tree Theories/Headcanons

Feel free to use these for rewrites/family trees/etc.

POST-SKYCLAN ERA

Redstar, Amberclaw, and Oatspeckle are littermates.

Oakstar and Thrushtalon are Gorseclaw’s sons.

Beetail is Spottedpelt’s son.

Deerdapple is Nettleclaw’s daughter.

Bloomheart is the son of Seedpelt and Rabbitfur.

MAPLESHADE'S VENGEANCE ERA

Fallowsong and Sweetbriar are the daughters of Doestar.

Squirrelwhisker is Thrushtalon's daughter. This makes her Oakstar's niece/Pinestar's first cousin.

Mapleshade and Dawnfeather are the daughters of Amberclaw. This makes Mapleshade Nettlebreeze's aunt.

Ravenwing and Hollypelt are the kits of Redstar. This means Mapleshade murdered not just a medicine cat, but also her first cousin.

PRE-GOOSEFEATHER'S CURSE ERA

Rooktail is Hollypelt’s son. This makes him Ravenwing's nephew.

Mistpelt is Bloomheart’s daughter.

Weedwhisker, Flamenose, and Rainfur are the kits of Nettlebreeze and Mallowfur.

Daisytoe was a former member of the Sisters who became separated from them and joined ThunderClan as an older kitten. She was adopted by Flashnose’s parents and the two lived as sisters. Goosefeather inherited his ability to see spirits from his mother's kin.

Stormtail and Rockfall are the sons of Mistpelt and Stonepelt. Bluestar was mentored by her paternal grandfather.

Littlestep is Smallear's father.

Heronwing, Rabbitleap, and Poppydawn are the kits of Weedwhisker and Fallowsong.

PINESTAR'S CHOICE/PRE-BLUESTAR'S PROPHECY ERA

Adderfang is Beetail’s son.

Robinwing and Sparrowpelt/Halftail are siblings fathered by Heronwing.

Fuzzypelt was found abandoned as a kit and adopted by a ThunderClan queen.

Swiftbreeze is the daughter of Flashnose and a WindClan tom.

POST-BLUESTAR'S PROPHECY/PRE-SERIES ERA

Dappletail had at least one litter of kits with Stormtail (Cricketkit and Featherkit are their sons), but none made it to adulthood.

Darkstripe is the son of Willowpelt and a kittypet tom.

When Darkstripe was a warrior, Willowpelt became mates with Whitestorm and had Graykit (Graystripe) with him. This makes Graystripe, Sorreltail, Rainwhisker, and Sootfur full siblings.

Sandstorm is the daughter of Runningwind and a rogue she-cat. The rogue didn't want anything to do with her daughter, so Sandkit was given over to Robinwing as a newborn.

Ashfur, Ferncloud, Elderkit, and Tulipkit are the kits of Brindleface and Darkstripe. He would have nothing to do with Brindleface and the kits after she adopted Cloudkit.

[hatsbattlecats]

Decided to elaborate on Mapleshade and Myler’s kids in the StL:AU

SO!!

Sunset is a munchkin she cat (one of Myler’s parents was a munchkin cat so he was a carrier, and Maple had it SOMEWHERE in her family tree) and she’s a calico like her mom.

She ends up leaving the farm to live as a kittypet with the relatives of one of the farmer twolegs where she eventually having kits with another kittypet and giving birth to Salt, Pepper, and Sugar. (And Salt goes on to meet and sire kits with Crystal, aka: Jake’s mother/Firestar’s grandmother)

Brandy is a simple white she cat with black patches. She’s the only one of Maple and Myler’s kits to stay on the farm full time.

Her kids and their kids and so on n so on, end up including Barley and his siblings, as well as Smudge.

Stormy is a calico as well as Sunset, but is a trans tom, and Maple’s only son with Myler

Stormy eventually meets a trans she-cat loner and leaves the farm with her to start his own family, though he has no notable canon descendants like his siblings

[skyclan-funny-name-squad]

PLEASE tell me Onestar goes to the Leaf-Fall area in the seasons StarClan thing

Hmm onestar

Lets see, his biggest crimes are abuse of power and everything with darktail

Unfortunately i think he’s end up in newleaf, being a dick is not inherent grounds to move down a season, and while his treatment of Smoky is certainly enough to keep him out of greenleaf I would say Darktail’s actions wouldn’t factor in too much because like, literally how could he know that would happen. As such he simply doesn’t have enough blood or betrayal on his paws to knock him down to leaf-fall. He’s a dick who did wrong, but he’s not got the damage to fall any further.

Unlike a cat like mapleshade who did commit murder and do crimes that could be considered unforgivable but was also a victim of a misread prophecy, failures to obey the warrior code, and the delusions of her kits earning her a place in the “you did pretty bad things but also the bad things werent enough to fully outweigh why they happened” Onestar just doesn’t have the same legacy to earn a spot in leaf-fall.

Though I’d imagine cats who died to the kin or some leaf-fall cats would think he got off too easy, but alas, it’s kinda hard to hold him responsible for his son becoming a cult leader when he never even met the kid. Like yeah he could have stopped it by taking in Smoky, but like, Darktail also could have just as easily…not, done all that. So he is going to be hearing snide deadbeat dad comments for MOONS

Also while we’re here Mudclaw did also end up in newleaf because while he definitely was questionable enough to be kept out of greenleaf, the complicated issues of a lack of a proper ceremony and the only witnesses being thunderclan cats and the lack of overall damage kept him in newleaf.

[wc-confessions]

I think if I did a rewrite, I'd have the Dark Forest also be called Starclan's Abandoned and established from the beginning of the series. Both Starclan and the Dark Forest could both give out 9 lives depending on how much faith a cat has or has lost in Starclan. Like the thunder that interrupted Firestar from revealing Tigerstar's crimes? Yeah, that was the Dark Forest sending it in defiance.

And the clan cats would always be caught in the middle of a power struggle and suffer from it depending on which side has slightly more power. Like Mapleshade's Vengeance happened because the Dark Forest had slightly more power because of Ravenwing doubting his abilities as a medicine cat and Oakstar was wondering how Starclan could be so cruel in killing his son and an apprentice. So you got a constant war going on, then all of a sudden Spottedleaf gets a prophecy of 'Fire will save the clans'. Except it's not from Starclan or the Dark Forest and they both insist it's from the other, but never considered it's from an outside force. That force is tired of seeing these cats constantly struggle because their ancestors can't stop being selfish pricks and sent a cat to save them.

This cat isn't alone though as there's more to the prophecy: 'Fire will save the clans and the embers (Leafpool and Squirrelflight) will light the way back to the roots. The fire kin of kin will have the power to rewrite the stars and abandoned and peace will arrive with a dove feather floating in an ivy laden pool.' The prophecy is still a work in progress but at the end, they all use their powers to lessen both Starclan's and the Dark Forest's grip on the living so they can't interfere anymore.

Wow, I really rambled there. Sorry about that but I just wanted to get the idea out there as I'm too lazy to write this by myself.

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[petalkitshadow]

sorry if this has been asked already, but i saw that birchface was gay and got curious, so how would oakstar react to his son being gay, considering the fact he's homophobic?

Oh my beloved Birchface... I'm a bit sad he never appears in the actual fic due to being dead before it begins, because I grew quite fond of him while coming up with a backstory! sooo Birchface lore dump time...

TL;DR Oakstar would NOT be happy. He basically wanted Birchface to be an exact copy of himself... He hoped to make Birchface his deputy once he finished training Flowerpaw. Birchface was his golden child who could do no wrong. Oakstar HEAVILY favored Birchface over Frecklewish. (because, well, he's a huge misogynist. Frecklewish could give him grandkits... but Birchface? Birchface could be his successor!)

However, this heavy favoritism ironically drove Birchface away, comapred to Frecklewish, who clung to her dad and his ideas, desperate for approval. Birchface was painfully aware that Oakstar loved the *idea* of him. The idealized, incomplete version of Birchface that lived in his father's head. He had to hide who he was from his family and his clan because they weren't accepting.

He was actually in a half-clan relationship. And part of a secret group that will get more focus in upcoming chapters + in Frecklewish's Lesson �� His mate was Swiftflight of WindClan. (the guy whose tail Mapleshade steps on at the gathering lol) Ironically, Birchface planned to leave ThunderClan to escape from his father and the homophobic clan once he was done training Flowerpaw.

So yep that's the Birchface lore. He was painfully aware that his father would disown him and possibly beat or even exile him for his sexuality, (as he recalls when another cat, Spottedpelt, was beaten for confessing her feelings to another she-cat when he and his sister were apprentices) so he hid it and planned on running away. It'd be fun to explore his character sometime, in a time period where he's actually alive lol

Also, i think if Birchface were alive, he would have gone along with Maple's kits being "his". Kinda like a lavender marriage of sorts. He and Mapleshade were childhood friends, along with Frecklewish; there was a reason the cats assumed he was the father. And he would've understood what it's like to have to hide the cat you love. But alas... he wasn't there to defend his friend :(

[theanoninyourinbox]

Free To Use AUs (some are very silly)

-Redtail kills Tigerclaw and Brokenstar is the big villain

-Darktail is the son of Onewhisker and Princess - is obsessed with becoming a leader and tries to usurp his father

-Tangleburr and Tigerclaw have a secret romance, and Tangleburr kills Nightstar so Tigerstar can happen

-Smoke is Ruby but raises her kit to be a kind but firm leader to a new Bloodclan

-Onewhisker, Runningwind, and Mousefur are siblings in Windclan

-Wishkit and Hopekit survive and are taken in by the Sisters

-Snowtuft is Snowfur in a REALLY effective disguise

-Leopardstar starts being evil after forming Tigerclan and is banished, is the big surprise villain in the second arc

-Sol is Mapleshade reincarnated

-Smudge is Scourge

-Crookedjaw redeems Mapleshade and she is reborn as Silverstream, who lives through her labor

-The next prophecy sign is a plane dropping fish into the lake

-Juniperclaw is the one to kill Ashfur and disappear, Rootspring and Bristlefrost name their firstborn after him

-Bone is actually Scourge's and Firestar's dad

-Yellowfang is actually a yellow-gray torbie, and Brokenstar looks JUST like her, so EVERYONE knows she's the mother

-Leafpool runs away with Stormfur

-Midnight is a bear

I might add more later, please tag me if you use these!