#the shortest one is 8ft.

[ssspringroll]

Saddens me greatly that even with my giant/tiny slider, i will never be able to make my favorite ocs height-accurate. The tallest one is 20ft (6m). That's like a 2 story building. Game just can't handle dudes that huge ;-;

[dingodoodles]

Do you have a thing with making short characters?

My last two characters were 7ft (Bree)-8ft (Lessia) tall. Sips was 5.6 so I wouldn't call him short lol Rooster is probably one of my shortest. So I'm kinda a mixed bag tbh. I try everything.

[slavonicrhapsody]

how tall do you think the carian siblings were pre-shattering? i figure maybe rykard and radahn's great runes could've made them grow, but even ranni's body looks to be around 8ft tall, and then there's rennala of course. just wondering what others think about it

I did answer a similar question in the past but this time I’ll actually go more in-depth:

so I made this (admittedly loose) chart using stuff from the game to try to estimate Rykard and Ranni’s heights

for Rykard the only thing we really have to go off of is his throne in Volcano Manor’s ruined audience chamber. as you can see he’d have to be pretty massive to sit his ass down in that chair so I scaled up my drawing accordingly to like the minimum height he’d have to be

then we have Ranni’s corpse to look at, but she’s kinda curled up on the ground so I tried to reconstruct her proportions standing up straight vs. the tarnished for scale. it looks like she was a really similar height to Blaidd which is super sweet!

for Radahn we unfortunately don’t have anything in-game that can help give us a solid pre-shattering height estimate… there is that one painting where he’s fighting Morgott, but I can’t really use a painting to get a reliable sense of scale.

we do have the demigod thrones to give us a vague idea of heights, though… Rykard and Radahn’s thrones seem to be a similar size, so that kind of confirms that Radahn was closer in height to his brother back in the day:

Ranni’s throne on the left is also noticeably smaller:

personally I imagine Radahn was always the tallest sibling, with Ranni being the shortest… I think her being small is fitting because Rennala calls her “little Ranni” :)

which is funny because compared to normal people they’re all enormous like Ranni is 8ft tall at minimum

[evanhamato]

OK, I have a personal headcannon that the turtles are super tall- like- raph is 10f ish, Donnie 8ft, leo a little shorter, and Mikey is at LEAST 6ft.

So the turtles interacting with the world being tall mf's and as well as their s/o (like throwing them over their shoulder or air jailing them

Bounus points is S/O is short by normal standards.

THIS IS NOT MENT TO BE SMUT. At all. I request wholesome and Mischievous content.

Well wishes: SBF🐍

[ Ankle Biter ]

Future!ROTTMNT x GN!Reader who is short

A/N: i assume you meant the future turts? im so sorry if this is wrong! we're gonna assume the reader is between 5'0 - 5'3! thank you for requesting SBF!! <3

Relationship: Romantic

TW: Fluff, kisses, cuddling, slight panic (?), affectionate teasing.

Future Raph

He adores your short size.

Hug? You get a bear hug regardless of how gentle he is.

Cuddling? No, weighted blanket in the form of a humanoid turtle.

Kisses? He has to bend over or pick you up to do so.

He gets a little anxious in crowds.

Being so tall means you can see everyone so, you'll be easy to spot, right?

No, not when everyone blurs together.

He once lost you at a festival and...

It was not pretty for the other turtles.

Certainly. Not pretty.

Future Leo

One word.

Air jail.

Your crimes are condemned to punishment, being held like a soggy cat for 5 minutes.

You are also an arm extension.

Something (surprisingly) too high to grab?

Fetch it for him.

If you guys are hanging out with shared friends, he ALWAYS has to sweep you of your feet.

Show-off.

That is until you start to rebel.

When you start to rebel, the only thing Leo can do is pray.

Future Donnie

Height doesn't really affect you two.

Kisses are a little harder but, Donnie is flexible.

Plus, carrying all those junkyard scraps beefed him up a little.

Along with training and fighting.

However, he doesn't hesitate to bring up your height in banter.

"I'm not sure how your opinion matters when you still aren't fully grown. Oh wait, you are."

Simply uses his robotic arms to shove you away once he gets your temper going.

Aside from that, he thinks its a convivence that you are short.

He's making something for you? Less materials used compared to his brothers.

He's also more lenient on repairs or replacements when it comes to you for the same reasons.

Future Mikey

Lets be real, if anyone is gonna tease you the most, it's Mikey.

Backtalk? On top of the fridge you go.

"Are you sure you don't need a stool to see? Just making sure."

He is so smug about it.

Growing up the shortest, it's funny to see the tables turn on someone else.

But he makes sure to never go to far, no feelings will be wounded by Dr. Feelings himself.

He really likes you on his shoulders, a simple lean and it's easy to kiss you.

Nicknames. It's always the nicknames.

With the teasing also comes the politeness.

Doors opened for you, stuff moved out the way, he can't have the ankle biter themself getting hurt!

[cyborg-franky]

Hello!! I love your writing so much 🫶

Could we get a Marco x very tall reader like 8ft+? I hope you're having a good day :)

Ah thank you! I am glad you like it <3

Marco x GN Reader SFW

He’s used to being one of the shortest members of the crew, only Ace is shorter than him [and most of the nurses] He doesn’t have a complex about it, he’s too laid back to care about such a silly thing.

Marco does, however, like to be the smaller one in the relationship for once. He basks in the affection of you coming up behind him, wrapping arms around him, and resting your chin on the top of his head. He sighs, happy, and leans into your touches.

He wouldn’t ever tell anyone but he feels precious when you have to lean down and kiss his forehead or he has to tip-toe to meet your lips.

You are glad he doesn’t care about the height difference, he never makes you feel bad about it. 

Doesn’t make it a thing.

Alot of people in the past have made you feel like a monster being so tall or felt emasculated. Marco still treats you like you are the smallest and most perfect bean. The way he holds you at night, running hands down your sides, peppering your cheeks and nose with kisses. The way he gazes at you with his half-lidded eyes and smiles.

The phoenix likes feeling snug in the arms of an equally strong mate and he sleeps to well in your arms.

He also likes he can land on your arm in harpy form, sitting there like he’s a parrot, enjoying being close to you and surveying everything.

You make little jokes about him being shorter and he takes it all in good humour. Sometimes he gives you cute ‘short’ nicknames like ‘his little bird’ ‘small bean’ ‘tiny’ because you both get a kick out of the silly irony.

[turbulentscrawl]

Hunter Sizes

Just some more general musings from work the other night. Special thanks to @athanasius-symposium-of-writings for listening to my random chatter about this kinda stuff haha

-I think most of the Hunters aren’t as large as the game makes them seem in comparison to the survivors. That’s something done, firstly, to give the Hunter-player a better field of vision, and secondly, to emphasize the survivor’s fear of whoever is chasing them. That said, I do think most of the Hunters have been made bigger than they were as mortals. Like, they're still huge! But the survivors aren't usually eye-level with their crotches haha.

-Fool’s Gold is the largest of the Hunters, and the closest to his in-game height. Norton’s body has been built up and filled out with a ton of rocks and coal, and the as a result he stands somewhere between 9-10ft tall. Ann is close to his height as well because she’s been so stretched out, but her posture is terrible so she tends to stand at eye-level of the next group.

-Jack, Antonio, Wu, Luchino, Pierre, Percy, and Alva are the tallest Hunters, aside from Fool’s Gold and Ann. They all stand between 7-8ft tall.

-Sangria (and she's all leg lol), the Will Brothers together, and Orpheus are the next group, and generally stand between 6.5-7ft tall. Grace is also at eye-level at this group, due to her floating which she can’t turn off. If she were able to rest on the ground, she’d be in the same group as Michiko. Dream Witch is also in this group, but since no one can see her it barely counts.

-Hastur’s height is variable. When he’s resting, he’s right in the middle of Hunter’s height charts. But his body is like an octopus, so he can squash and stretch himself easily to change his size.

-Michiko, Mary, Burke, Kiegan, Ithaqua, and Joseph are on the shorter side, compared to other Hunters, but they still stand around 6ft. Ithaqua uses his stilts to seem taller; with those on, he’s got another foot on people and stands at eye-level with Sangria. Leo, Joker, and Bane are also close with this group, but they’re also much bulkier overall than the others.

-Galatea, Violetta, Bonbon, and Robbie are the shortest Hunters. They’re still not as “small” as their age or conditions would suggest, but probably average between 5’-5.5’ when standing.

[salamiimommy]

Im_Sorry_Buddy’s description for as many of the designs in FTFO as I can find rn bc I need to keep them all together in one place for reference so I might as well share it for anyone else

Any edits I make to the original text will be shown in [these] yes I have been updating it, last combed around chapter 5 while also updating with the latest chapters. Buddy has confirmed this post is accurate !!

[MAJOR DESIGN SPOILERS MENTIONED. marked with **. it’s organized by character with their first outfit on top and changes after in order to how they appear. pls be careful looking through if you’re new.]

[Ink is first and he has. a Lot of outfits so there’s a HUGE chunk of text to scroll past to get to everyone else LOL. Broomie is second]

First, some heights. The tallest Gang member is Horror (4ft 10 inches), then Nightmare (4ft 9in, though his tentacles make him seem larger than Horror), then Cross, Killer, and Dust (4ft 7in), then Ink is the shortest (at about 3ft 8.5 inches). Of the Sanses, only Outertale Sans is shorter than Ink (at 3 ft 5inches).

Error is a couple inches shorter than Cross, Dust, and Killer at 4ft 04in (because Error 404 joke). Dream is approximately 4ft 3in (my headcanon is he’d get taller than that if the Multiverse wasn’t so negative. Plus Nightmare has 500 years on him). Blue is 4ft 7in. Red is 4ft 6.5 inches just to make him mad that Blue is a little taller than him. Core Frisk… is 4ft. (Yes, they are actually taller than Ink. Yes, I did a double take when I realized that. The fandom has lied to me.)

[The Papyri] average around 6.8 to 7.2 ft. Edge looks even taller than he actually is because of the heels on his boots. I will say that Toriels are taller than the Papyri at maybe about 7.5 to 8ft. Other than that, I don't have exact numbers in mind, heh.

[the website I used made the Sanses all child models bc they’re so short wHEEEEEEEZE also like it states the Paps n Tori heights are the averages, different AUs are different heights. also also the rectangle in the back is Broomie's height]

Ink:

Ink sleeps in pajamas that are a lighter shade of brown. It’s a standard long sleeve button up pajama shirt and pants.

Ink's soul has the appearance like broken pottery. There are visible gouges where he dug his fingers into his soul.

Ink has had a couple different outfits. His former "hanging around the Castle" outfit was a too big brown long sleeve and loose brown pants (that did resemble the pants the Comyet Ink used to wear except they were completely brown and went all the way down to his feet). Those clothes were destroyed when Error grabbed him in chapter 6 (where Ink spent chapter 7 wearing Killer's too-big coat) so [then] Ink [was] borrowing one of Cross's black long sleeves and another pair of brown pants (these have more of the "pleated" design of Comyet Ink's new pants and also go down to his feet) .

[CH 12 HT!Toriel visit] “He was happy to choose a cyan hoodie and dark blue joggers. Well, he was happy except when it came to choosing the shoes.”

[CH 26 Ccino visit] “His black turtleneck, pants, and green vest” [from his Arc outfit.]

[CH 27 onwards was a black long sleeve shirt, pleated brown pants, and his scarf with the hood.]

[CH 32] “[…] wear his brown scarf and hood, along with his loose brown pants. […] Aster had apparently brought along a black tank top for him. The tank top fit well enough and the collar was high enough that it lay under the collar of his scarf but it obviously did not cover his arms, […]Doctor Toriel stepped out before returning with a pair of long fingerless brown gloves.”

[CH 44] “[…] a light green long sleeve, his hooded scarf, and a pair of dark brown pants from the drawer right beside him.”

[CH 45] “[…] his hooded scarf, a comfortable black long sleeve, his light green [cargo] pants, and a brown satchel with a long strap. He hung the satchel cross-body over his shoulder”

[CH 46 around the castle] “[…] a pair of rather short brown shorts, leaving […] much of his femur uncovered”

[CH 46 Ccino visit] “[…] a turtleneck that matched the light green interior of his hooded scarf and brown pants”

[CH 46 Sciencetale visit] “[…] his comfortable black long sleeve and the detachable light green pants-to-shorts he preferred.”

[SHIELD OUTFIT] A long purple cloak with a hood that, when up, almost covers his face (meaning his eye lights can glow from beneath the shadow of the hood). It's more off of his face when he's curious and excited, but falls further over his face when he's scared or uncomfortable. The purple cloak has a silver clasp in the shape of the Delta Rune. Underneath the cloak he wears a silver tunic, black belt, and purple leggings. His boots are black and go up just to his “calves”. When Ink is Shield, he covers the ink splotch on his face with white paint.

[Ch 26 he added]”[…H]is scarf (minus the hood, which was tucked into his satchel) around his neck. Its ends were folded in so they did not hang out of the bottom of his brown coat.”

[ARC OUTFIT:] Whenever Ink needs to publicly work for Nightmare, he wears an outfit with a bit of a steampunk aesthetic (as “encouraged” by Nightmare so that when people look at Ink, they don’t think “medic” or “healer”). Nightmare wants Ink to keep his identity (and the fact that he’s the Gang's medic) a secret so he wears a mask outside of the castle. The mask appears to be made from brass and copper metal that’s been painted black (with the exception of a few accents). It covers his face while his hood covers the rest of his skull.

The mask is fashioned after a mix of a gas mask for the bottom half and steampunk “brass goggles” for the top half. It is all one piece and the way the “metal” is crafted makes it looks like an owl’s feathery face. Ink’s eye lights are not visible through the goggles and the dark lenses (plus the shadow of the hood) makes it seem like he is constantly giving what I call the “Sans's empty socket glare”. The bottom half of the mask has two “valves” for exhalation and inhalation that are actually functional (cleansing the air he breathes), but are flatter and are symmetrical, unlike real world versions tend to be. There is a bit of metal between the valves that looks like an owl’s beak. The bottom is mostly black with some brass accents for the bottom half. He can easily remove the mask to reveal his face and replace it in a moment’s notice.

Ink wears a brown steampunk overcoat with a hood. Seven black buttons go up his chest (to the left side of his sternum) to close it. Under the last button, the fabric opens up in an upside down “v” shape, preventing the coat from covering the fronts of his legs. The hem of the “tail” of the coat falls just below the backs of his knees. The collar of the coat covers part of his neck. Around his left forearm is what looks like two black snake designs wrapped around his arm (like the snakes wrapped around the Staff of Asclepius).

Under the coat he wears a dark green vest (It was the only big bit of green that Nightmare allowed because he really doesn’t want Ink to even be associated with green magic.) Under that vest he wears a black turtleneck undershirt that nearly goes up to his chin. His pants are black, and tuck into brown boots. (Ink ditches the boots whenever he can).

Over the coat, Ink wears a thick black belt that has many pockets on it. Every pocket has a unique symbol and every one is filled with medical supplies like bandages, healing food, several antidotes, etc. Attached to his right thigh is a small satchel with more medical supplies. In the small side pocket of the satchel (this one is to the front so its easiest to reach), is [REDACTED]. On his left thigh he wears what looks like a long brown holster that goes down to his knee. Seven pockets go down it in a line. Inside are… you guessed it: more medical supplies.

Ink wears black gloves that leaves just the tips of his fingers exposed. The back of the right glove gets what looks like a bronze analog clock sewn into it. The tops of his fingers are exposed so he can more easily use his magic to heal others and [fix codes]. They’re reinforced so he can grab a blade without it cutting right into him.

[Ink now wears the scarf as well, minus the hood, with the ends folded so they do not hang out of the bottom of the coat as of Ch 27.]

[SCARF in CH 26] “The hood was attached by a few buttons that were the same shade as the rest of the fabric, letting them blend into the scarf and make it appear to be one solid piece. The outside of the hood was brown. Its interior was a light green, like the color on the pinkies and sides of Prism's gloves. It was also the color that Ink's eye lights often turned when he used green magic.

The brown scarf's tails were long enough that the ends still hung down by the bottoms of Ink’s calves after he wrapped it around his neck. The hood hung loosely around his head but stayed up even when he moved around. The green interior of the hood was clearly visible, contrasting the exterior nicely. The "collar" was loose around his neck but thick enough to easily cover the new marks that had been scrawled onto his bones.

If Ink wanted to, he could detach the hood and tuck in the ends to wear the scarf under his Shield cloak. He could even wear it hoodless with his Arc outfit if he wished.”

[INKS FINAL OUTFIT in CH 47] Ink's new brown coat was shorter than his old Arc one, with the straight hem stopping at just below his pelvis.

There were only four black buttons holding it closed instead of the previous coat's seven, though Ink found that he also liked how it looked when he left it open.

Even when fully buttoned, the coat opened up just below his collar bone, leaving a standing collar up top instead of an attached hood and revealing a bit of the light green turtleneck that safely covered the tattoo-like marks on his neck and sternum.

[…] an upright light green heart was embroidered on the shoulders of the coat, subtly indicating his profession as a Healer. Just beneath those hearts, cut-outs ran from his shoulder to above his elbows and revealed a matching green interior.

He traded his old black gloves for longer black ones with stitching designs that matched the light green of the interior of his scarf, his shirt, and the medical hearts, leaving the tips of his fingers and thumbs exposed and the black double-clock on the back of the hand. His wide, pocket-filled black belt also remained, as did the brown holster of pockets down his left thigh. His brown satchel was moved to his right hip, now hanging crossbody instead of being attached to his right thigh.

The black pants he designed had zippers hidden under small bits of overlapping fabric up around his femurs, which gave him quicker access to the area if needed. He could technically turn the pants into a pair of shorts with two unzips but Ink was hesitant. He was too uncomfortable with the idea of showing the binary code marks on his bones to consider something shorter like Prism's overalls, even with the thigh-high brown sock providing an extra layer of coverage on his left leg. Like Prism and many other Inks, he chose a design that left his heel and toes bare. Unlike Prism and many other Inks, the tight-like sock had a swirling green design down its outside.

Other than the pant leg, his prosthetic was bare, allowing a bit of the design to be seen due to his abhorrence for shoes. Maybe it was due to the presence of the colors (instead of white) but Ink was much more receptive to showing the prosthetic off than any of the marks on his bones.

Ink's Arc mask was attached to his belt and hung near his satchel, out of the way but within reach just in case.

His hooded scarf completed the outfit, with Cyan and Gold once again taking up residence at the ends of the tails. Broomie floated at his back, with the tip of their handle pointing out beyond his right shoulder while their black brush flicked close to his left ankle.

[**CH 41 Ink’s right leg has been cleanly amputated] “above his knee, halfway up his femur.”

[**PROSTHETIC in CH 46] The prosthetic resembled a skeleton monster's right leg with several notable differences. The socket was a bit wider than the bone to fit his stump and provide support. The pylon beneath the knee resembled leg armor more than a skeleton monster's individual tibia and fibula. The basic shape and outline were a similar thickness to his bone leg though.

The mechanical foot part was currently covered by the shell that went over it. Based on the images that Doctor Toriel had shown Ink, there were distinctive joint areas for the ankle, knee, and toe beneath the casing. […] the toe was one unit meant for balancing, support, and propulsion.

The base of the prosthetic was colored a medium shade of gray […] while the design on the casing was one of the simpler ones.

The prosthetic covers were the same style for the entire leg and foot. They had the appearance like jagged light green lightning or filled cracks in repaired pottery, which stood out sharply and boldly on the metallic black background. The moment Ink had seen what was labeled as a "kintsugi-inspired" design, he knew that was the one. The green not only matched his eye lights, his magic, and the interior of his scarf, but the 'filled-in' look of the pattern reminded him of his soul.

Broomie:

Cross:

Cross [used to wear] his old Royal Guard uniform from Xtale. He has his scar, and his eye lights are usually both white. They do not turn red no matter how angry or emotional he becomes. His bone and knife attacks are tinted purple.

[CH 14] “His jacket was different. It was just a couple alterations. A black X-like design on the shoulders of both white sleeves. The large white X-sash was now black. Along the bottom hem of the white jacket were simple black cross-stitches. It was little things but the decals broke up the white in his outfit.”

[CH 45 pjs:] “Cross had grabbed a plain black tank top and loose black sweatpants.”

[CH 46 Ccino visit] “[…] he changed into a black hoodie and pants instead of wearing his more recognizable outfit.”

[GUARD OUTFIT] […] a set of silver Royal Guard armor and a purple cloak. A large Delta Rune is emblazoned on the chestplate in black. The armor also comes with a silver helmet but he did not wear it on the [first] Aftertale mission. When he is acting as Guard, he either covers his scar with white or wears the helmet to hide his face.

[**CH 37] “[…] vertical cracks split the bones by his eye sockets, resembling the scars of his creator. His eye lights burned a volatile purple, their form shivering like they were struggling not to change shape. [CH 38] […] glowing purple cracks on his skull looked like a Gaster’s scars.”

[**CH 42 has healed the scars completely]

Dust:

Dust wears the standard Sans outfit but it looks like its a paler color in places because of all the monster dust. His shoes are gray for that reason. Dust always has his gray hood up unless it’s knocked off his skull. Unlike Killer and Horror (and Cross), his hood does not have fur. He wears his Papyrus’s tattered scarf. His eye lights have a blue center and a red ring around the outside. They can occasionally turn white if he’s feeling peaceful. His bone attacks are indigo, leaning more towards blue than purple.

Dust sometimes sleeps in a light blue t-shirt and dark gray pajama pants with a drawstring. Other times he forgets to change and plops into bed in his usual t-shirt and shorts.

[CH 46 Sciencetale visit] “[…] he pulled at the hood of the hoodie he was wearing. He had seemed to like the dark indigo color[…] Dust's scarf was tucked into the hoodie, leaving only a small bit of the collar visible. A pair of sunglasses covered his distinctive eye lights. Black sweatpants and sneakers completed the outfit.”

Dust Papyrus:

To Ink, Dust Papyrus looks like the barest outline of a ghostly shape of the head, scarf, and hands of a Papyrus. He’s extremely faint and blurry, with binary codes making up his outline.

[**CH 46] “[…] ghostly gloves gained a red color and an equally ghostly skull took form. Finally, [Ink] could clearly see Phantom Papyrus.”

Killer:

Killer also wears the standard Sans outfit except his undershirt is a black turtleneck and his hood has fur on the rim. His soul is usually visible in the form of a red target. When he goes Stage Three, it blurs and thick black liquid pours from his eye sockets and mouth. He never has eye lights. His knife attacks are red while his bone attacks are tinted gray. [Liquid Determination leaks constantly from his eyes.]

He tries not to sleep so he does not change into pajamas.

[CH 4 comment] Killer's Stages are inspired by something he has in Something New/"Killertale". Long story short: "Stage One": Killer is pretty much Sans. This Stage does not happen anymore. "Stage Two": Default Killer. "Stage Three": Killer is out of control and will attack anything. "Stage Four and Higher": run.

[**CH 26, Killer can now renter Stage 1, though he has not done it in yet. Liquid Determination is also not constantly leaking from his eyes. CH 27:] The black marks beneath his eye sockets were thin enough that they could be mistaken for drawn lines.

[**CH 44 showed that the liquid Determination is still affected by his emotions:] “Killer glowered at him. The black lines beneath his eye sockets thickened a little.”

Horror:

Horror has the usual Sans-style outfit. His has fur lining the hood. Horror’s jacket is a bit tattered and shows signs of being torn and sewn back together in a couple places. His left eye is not his own one, he took it from a dead guard in his AU. It’s is a glowing red iris and can go out like most skeleton eye lights. His bone attacks are tinted a faint red. [Horror has two eye lights regularly, just one of them is. big and red.]

Horror has pajama shorts and a t-shirt but he often forgets to change into them. (He’s trying to teach Ink to be better than him at it). [CH 45] “Horror was in a gray t-shirt and black shorts.”

[CH 36] “…those unsettling, mismatched eye lights.” [CH 40] “His right eye light returned with his health (and his hope)” [proof for two eye lights]

Nightmare:

Nightmare doesn’t change clothes. He is his goopy octopus self. When he is particularly angry or in a “mood”, his aura is much darker, like he’s surrounded by shadows.

[**CH 28] “His form rippled, and suddenly he did not appear to be made of black sludge. Instead it was like he was glitching darkness, his form flickering and rippling at its edges as his eye light thinned to a slit and and his fingers sharpened to claw-like points. Ink caught a glimpse of his teeth and was horrified to see they were unnaturally pointed[.]” [His eye also glows a toxic cyan and he smiles with too many teeth. And his tentacles are unmoving most of the time.]

[**CH 37] “Corrupted's grin grew wider, revealing that his jaw had indeed become unhinged like it was broken.”

[**CH 40] “The shadows that held Ink barely resembled Nightmare anymore. He had merged with the darkness, leaving only a toxic eye light visible as his presence expanded […] smoke-like tentacles […] his sharp-toothed smile, which was far too big to fit on Nightmare's face without breaking it apart, oozed with black sludge.”

[**CH 40 returns him to his regular goop form.]

Dream:

Dream has his “current outfit” (the one with the yellow jacket-tunic thing). In the present he always looks tired and has shadows under his sockets.

[**CH 37] “Actual fire rippled in its wake, burning a violent gold. Four wings tore themselves free of Dream’s back, twisting and writhing like each individual feather was made of golden flames and his facial structure was lost in shuddering fire. His eye sockets filled with fire, burning away his eye lights.

[…] Although Dream’s mouth stayed visible through the flames, his teeth sharpened and his fiery grin grew so wide it froze on his face, unable to falter. The fire was such a thick covering over the remainder of his skull that an initial glance made it seem like that smile was all that was left of his face.

His clothes did not burn but they too became flames, curling and lashing in the air like they were mere moments from bursting out into a firestorm and consuming everything in sight, Dream included. Only his circlet remained solid, incandescent upon his fiery head like a halo that matched the glowing intensity of his wings. It was as though the sun itself had taken the form of a dreadful Angel.”

[**CH 39 returns him to his regular intact outfit.]

[**CH 43 sees a peek of] “…a bit of his collarbone that was blackened like it had been burned by flames,” [we don’t know the extent of the burns]

[**CH 45] “The burn scars were actually one big scar centered on his sternum, right where his soul rested. The bones of his sternum, clavicles, and frontal ribs were blackened like charred wood with a thick, circular shape in the middle. Tendrils spread out like wisps of flame, giving the scar an appearance like a black, stylized sun.”

Blue:

Blue is more “Swap” than “Blueberry”. His kerchief is a darker blue color, and he wears a black-gray Royal Guard-inspired “battle body”, blue gloves, and blue boots. His eye lights are also blue. They become blue stars if he is happy and plain white if he’s terrified. His bone attacks are tinted blue.

[**CH 38] […] the slash through the heart sealed, leaving a deep scar much like the one [Ink] himself had gotten from Horrortale Undyne's spear.

Error:

[CH 2] “[…H]is tear marks stained red-purple by the blood that ran from his sockets.”

[Ch 7] “[…] a bit of a black skull and a single haunting red eye socket was visible. A distorted, yellow-ringed blue eye light stared down at them, observing them in silence, before it shrank to a deranged pinprick.

Black, dust-covered skeletal fingers grasped the edge of the portal, not reacting as the edge cut into his hand and what looked like glitching blood dripped down his phalanges.

His black jacket was torn, with the blue ends of its sleeves splattered with monster dust and specks of brownish-red dried blood. His pants were even more discolored, more gray than black and so stained by what must be blood that they clung to the red bones of his legs. One of his shoes was gone, and the strip of fabric around his neck (which might have been a scarf once) was so tattered it resembled a bloody blue bandage more than anything else. Even with his blue-lined hood pulled up over his skull and covering his face in shadow, he was easy to identify.”

[CH 20] “Error's skull stopped melting but the damage was done. Almost half of his head was gone, leaving only his eye light and a bit of his jaw untouched on that side.”

[CH 22] “[…H]is eye lights, which glowed so brightly they almost looked poisonous.”

[CH 48] “He had also fixed and washed his clothes. […] his scarf was no longer torn.”

[**CH 22] “Most of his mandible and zygomatic arch had been repaired. The hole in his skull wasn't anywhere close to being closed but although the tangle of codes in his skull were still horribly warped, more of the bits that were Error's own were visible.”

[**CH 37] “[…] a jagged scar that went from the top of Error’s repaired eye socket, up his forehead and over the top of his skull, and back around to the front through his jaw, where it curled back up and ended at the bottom of his eye socket. It marked exactly where the damage had once been.”

Geno:

[CH 29] “Geno mostly resembled the average Sans, except for the red scarf, melting eye socket, minor glitches, and the large gash across his chest. […] A line of red dripped from Geno’s mouth.” [The glitches around Geno’s eye can come and go, either on command or due to his emotions (negative emotions adding more glitches).]

[**CH 35] “Geno's chest wound seemed a bit less severe and there wasn't a trickle of blood coming from his mouth anymore.”

[**CH 36] “[…] heal the slash across his chest. His eye socket remained melted”

Fresh:

Prism:

[CH 12] “The other Ink still wore mostly brown, but the outfit was much more elaborate than the simple brown pajamas Ink currently wore. The biggest things Ink noticed were the sash of colored vials across the other's chest and the giant paintbrush at their back. And the reflection had a lovely brown scarf.” [He writes on his scarf like og!Ink]

Solus:

[CH 21] “This Ink's outfit was similar to Prism's but with one distinct difference. Part of the "collar" and ends of his scarf were the deep blue of an integrity soul. The other Ink's sleeves and pants were also torn, revealing most of his arms and sections of his legs.

Black marks were visible all over his bones, with a few peeking up just above his scarf. They weren't simple binary codes like Ink's own marks, he realized. They were scars. Physical scars that someone had painstakingly carved into the other Ink's bones […] curling up his jaw and chin.”

[CH 24] “His brown sleeves were mostly gone, showing most of his arms, while his pleated brown pants were torn enough to reveal bits of his tibias, fibulas, and femurs. His ripped pant legs were uneven, their bottoms stained with a black liquid that could be ink or his own blood. The brown leggings Ink wore under his pants were absent from Solus, leaving the bottom parts of his legs and his feet completely bare.

[…] One of his eye lights often shifted color and shape whenever he blinked, sticking mostly to pastels or a stoic, guarded gray. The other was always the deep blue of an integrity soul no matter what emotions he felt or what shape they became.”

Other canon content for handy reference:

Cross is afraid of cows

Spaghetti is (probably) Ink’s favourite food

Ink scratched himself to the point of bleeding while stuck in his AU

[CH 24] ‘Solus’ did not speak much, instead preferring to use sign language and gestures. When his hands weren’t moving in small, careful motions, they held onto the blue edges of his stained and torn brown scarf or clung to his equally battered and scarred version of Broomie.

[CH 40 Broomie’s magic is…] black for portal creation, which would be useful if Ink's own magic was blocked off again. Brown for shielding simply because Ink liked brown, yes? Purple for enhanced durability to allies. Cyan for non-harmful entanglements. Blue for damage to moving targets. Green for Broomie's own regeneration capabilities only, unfortunately. Yellow for precise distance shots. Orange for damage to targets that were still. Red for purely corrosive splatters that could melt through flesh and bone- and Corruption. [Ink only has black and green magic.]

Broomie is referred to with they/them pronouns

Paprika loves dino egg oatmeal, like UT!Papyrus

Only Ink, Broomie, and Dust can see Phantom Paps. Only Dust can hear him.

If you have any links to other comments Buddy has made about any designs, or other quotes from the text, pls link them so I can add them ty !!!

[somethingridiculous]

I had some fun and made an updated height chart using my sins/my sin redesigns. You can find the original here!

Just a little disclaimer that these are just HEADCANONS and these are also my version of the sins! This includes redesigns and my own original designs. Nothing about this is canon, this is just for fun. Now onto the fun stuff-! You can find flat color versions at the bottom.

I always hc'd that Ozzie was most likely the tallest of the sins. Even in my own little AU, he's still the tallest. To put a number on it, I went ahead and the absolutely reasonable height of 10ft. Something else noticeable with him is he looks different from canon. This is because I'm using a redesigned version (Not made in bad faith, I actually love canon Ozzie a lot). I'll eventually post a solo of his redesign and explain it better there.

As for Bee, even before I revamped my original design, she was always going to be the second tallest of my sins. She stands at a height of 9ft 2in. If you want to see my original design for her, you can check that out here (OG post), here (HC post), here (Chibi version), and here (Angel vs Demon). With the release of s1e8, I had decided to go for a revamp of my original design to fit my headcanons for Hell a little better as well as using the canon Bee as inspiration. I'll eventually post a solo of her revamped design as well with a better explanation. -> You can now find her solo reference here!

In my original height chart, I had planned on Bel being the fourth tallest but had changed my mind due to a Mammon reveal. And even now, he still sits at third tallest with a height of 8ft 10in. I already posted his revamped design earlier. He really didn't change too much.

Now for Mammon, who follows a pretty hefty height gap from his taller siblings, falls at 6ft 5in. The most noticeable thing is probably that he looks nothing like how most would depict the show's Mammon. The reason for this is because, for the most part, I sidelined my concepts for the canon Mammon and made my own. If you're interested in what I think he might look like in canon, that design is on the first height chart I made, which is linked at the top of the post. The only thing I kept was the four arms, cause I wanted more than just Bee to have multiple sets of arms. Otherwise, his current design here is based on older designs I had for him. I'll eventually post a solo for this design along with some better explanations.

Outside of me giving him an extra finger (cause I decided to jump ship on the three finger, one thumb style.) Leviathan didn't really change at all. He's still shorter than most of his siblings, standing at an even 6ft. If you're interested in more about my version of him, you can see more here (OG post), here ("Through the Riptide"), here ("Water Claims All"), and here ("A Sense of Pride").

Satan falls in the same boat of largely staying the same as my earlier concepts. The only real thing that "changed" about him are his outfits and personality. Design wise, he remains the second tallest sin at 5ft 7in. If you're interested in some of my earlier headcanons (Many of which are mostly the same or similar), you can read them here (OG post), here ("Truth of Power"), and here ("A Sense of Pride")

And lastly, of course, I kept Lucifer as the shortest. I find it pretty funny that he's barely half Ozzie's height, yet he's the King of Hell. I have Lucifer standing at a whopping 5ft 5in (Still taller than me, though). You can find his solo redesign post here.

Once again, these are just my version of the sins, using my headcanons for an AU that I call Sins of a Feather. If you want to know more, feel free to ask or follow me, as I'll most likely be posting plenty more of them and other headcanons.

[depressed-lombster]

This week's draws

But I've put a bunch of filters on everything and now it's hard to look at

Stefano Valentini

Okay everyone who isn't here for Stefano can leave

Drew my cool epic OCs

They're all creechures, beings even

Nell is my scrungly rn and I love them

I think my cool and epic OCs Connie and Rose should go at it sloppy style I say as I have full control on wether or not they do and even though I could draw them going at it sloppy style I just don't. Anyway love them, they should be allowed to perform gender reassignment surgery on eachother.

Like most of my OCs Cosmo is one I don't post about often and I never drew her in her human form until now ( she's a Huldra ).

I was also going to do OCtober and one of the prompts was tallest OC vs shortest and Tiadas is like 8ft while Lil' Feekus is only 6 inches, but I think of Tiadas actually met little Feekus he would kill it, he wouldn't understand what it was and he'd kill it out of fear

Anyway speaking of Huldras...

I bought a Dollar store watercolor pad to see how it is and had my sister pick the gorls and the colors the pad is mediocre and beads quite a bit, I tried to fix it with ink and marker but you can still tell

[thedrixie]

I have this thing.... Its going to sound close to fnaf for a bit but its not

This.... thing is called Jollytime entertainment and amusement co. Its a company that started off as a small diner called Jollytime Diner but escalated into a huge restaurant called The Garden show party plaza after an incident at the old location. Inside this company his a whole bunch of sentient animatronics. The incident was, a rivaling company didn’t like how the the Jollytime Diner was thriving while they were loosing business. The reason why Jollytime was more popular then others was because they had five animatronic. Now this diner was aimed towards families, not just children. Unlike other diners at the time, they didn’t have anything that was themed after an animal. Their theming was done around hobbies. So the animatronic staff consisted these five:

Mr Jolly: An around 7ft tall animatronic male that is dressed up in a white suit that is decorated in a confetti pattern on his suit jacket and pants. On the inner layers of his outfit is a white suit vest that has gold trimming and a dark purple shirt. He also wears a light purple tie that has a three balloon clip on the side. Mr Jolly often sang popular music at the time as well as telling fun jokes and riddles. If guests could correctly answer his daily challenge riddle, they could win a special prize that could range from a large balloon from his stage or something large from the prize counter. His bright blue eyes reflected his very cheery personality and his fun sense of humor

Gardener: an around 8ft animatronic male that was dressed in a simple outfit that consisted of a very simple loose, black shirt that was made with some white pants. Around Gardeners waist was a garden tool belt that he was wearing as his stage area was build to resemble a flower garden. Gardeners hair was a bit longer then the average male and was a dark black but his hair was waved in a way where it was hard to tell the length. He often sang songs that were more vered towards nature and places as well as telling many different types of faces every once in a while to keep things fun but educational. In the tree of gardens stage was also an animatronic squirrel and a trio of birds that would do background vocals for Gardeners singing. Gardener had green eyes and was built to be a more muscular type of man. Gardener’s personality was of a slight romantic and a lover of nature.

Mr Baker: about 7,5 ft tall, garden was dressed more for homely baking. He sported a loose baby blue shirt with the sleeves rolled up and white pants as well as some nice house shoes as his stage area was themed after a cozy home kitchen. Mr Baker was more slim then his fellow animatronics but was just as well made. His hair was much longer and was pulled back into a bun. On top of his outfit, he normally wore a more of a frilly type of apron, however, if a child made him an apron during one of the many activities the diner offered, he would wear it over a store bought one. Bakers eyes were a crystal blue and were gentle. During his shows, he sang for food based songs and would tell actual recipes the children could make as he cooked on his stage. Around his stage area, it often smelled of a fresh apple pie or chocolate chip cookies. Baker had a more tender and gentle personality to him as he showed kitchen hospitality

Sean: Standing the shortest of the group at only 6 ft, Sean was dressed with more luxurious and toned down clothes. He wore either a suit vest or some sort of cardigan sweater, matching it with either black or brown dress pants. He also wore a variety of different ties. Sean has short, fluffy dark brown hair and a pair of old glasses sitting on his face. His stage was based off of an old tailors shop. Along the right side of his stage sat a mannequin and a vintage sewing machine. He sang very rarely but when he did it was more fashion based songs. Sean was more known for his banter with the other animatronics. Sean was a little more stuck up but enjoyed his friends company more then anything

Mr Playground: the last of the animatronics, Mr playground stands at the same height as Mr Baker, 7,5. Mr Playground was presented sort of like a fun loving teacher. He often sang songs that were for tilted towards involving the children right after they at and were very catchy as well as learning based. He sported a navy suit but most of the time had his suit jacket off and hanging on a hook in his stage area. He had brown almost blonde short hair and bright hazel eyes. His stage was made to resemble a class room but was more tilted towards a researchers office with maps and globes. He was very peppy and always had a tender smile on his face.

The Jollytime Diner opened their doors in 1963 and offered families a fun experience as well as fine dining. The diners most famous dishes being the Gardener Salad, The Jolly bowl Sunday, Warm Bakers pie, Sean's Shoelace fries and Playgrounds ABC cookies. They became one of the most popular diners and expanded their menu to where you could take it home to elderly loved ones who could travel in. The animatronics were a major fan favorite and brought so much joy to their guests. While they gained business, the competition lost business and at an alarming rate. Obviously their competitors didn’t like that and tried to sabotage them. One competitor hired a few men to break in after hours and steal the main animatronic, Mr Jolly. But the burglars were ambushed by the other four animatronics as they had secret security measures built in. But those men wouldn’t go down without a fight. So upon the next morning, The Jollytime diner founders walked in to find all the men trapped inside still and 4 out of the five animatronics destroyed. Mr Jolly was more then horrified at the sight. Gardener, Mr Baker, Sean, and Mr Playground were decommissioned as they were beyond repair with how much damage they took. When the owners shared the unfortunate new, many of the diners customers were furious but not at them. After the men who broke in made it very clear they were paid to break in, the company that hired them face extreme backlash from the Jollytime Diners patrons. So much so that it caused the opposing company to go bankrupt and close

The founders could not bring themselves to open the diner back one as they had lost their prized animatronics that they considered their children since they put so much work into them and they didn’t just want to replace them. So they bought out the old building that the bankrupt company had to abandon and turned it into their new attraction: The garden show cafe and party plaza which they opened in 1973, ten years after the diners opening. The garden show grew just as popular as they diner did, if not more popular. They expanded on the garden show by airing an actual tv show for people all over to see when they couldn’t visit the plaza in person. The garden show contained its own unique and brand new animatronics. However..... a few months in of the garden show running, a few hidden problems arose....

Do you want to hear more?

[skyfallstarlights]

//: Another fun fact with Serpentine. He's the shortest one out of the three [ Witherite and Pyroeis ]. But thats just due to those two being extremely tall as Witherite is 7ft 4inches [ might change 8ft 6inches ] while Pyroeis is 13"4. Serpentine on the other hand is 6foot 3

[dendotdrabbles]

Refs for Underfell!! :D

a couple of headcanons to go with it

also i kinda hate this drawing of underfell sans, but i needed to get his basic design and color pallet down, i might do a better drawing later.

i see underfell as one of the aus that didn't have as much food to go around, thats why Fell! Dusk (8ft), Edge (6ft 11in), and Red (5ft 3in) are some of the shortest compared to their counterparts. Edge wears heels for the intimidation factor kind of a "haha i can kick your ass WITH death trap shoes, fucking try me!" and Red is the chubbiest of his counterparts due to a slower metabolism. while he was raising edge he gave up a lot of his portions to edge so he'd be healthy :)

[gatorkid509]

Yep, I decided to make the height chart of Xiao Fung and Leng Ren's family( Plus adding Lily) since I thought I should show how tall my OCs are compared to Xiao's height, which was surprisingly hard to determine due the fact his official art shown on the JCA Wiki has him crouched down with his arms and legs bent close to his body, and in the show he stands pretty tall at maybe 10ft? Possibly? It's pretty hard to tell, I kinda wish we got an official list of how tall all of the Demon Sorcerers are. but lucky with some help by looking though the episodes he appeared in, I have determined that he's possibly 10ft tall when standing on both his arms and legs and 8ft tall when crouched down.( Also, apparently the JCA Wiki says Shendu is over 20ft in his true form?! I mean, he was shown to be taller then Dai Gui, Tso Lan and Bai Tza when they were standing next to one another in Demon World Part 2, so I guess that explains it) Okay now for my OCs heights. - Ping is officially 5.9ft, meaning he is the second shortest if, and yes, that means he is pretty short for demon standards, be he is still growing since he's only 16 and a half, so he's going to grow bigger, he just doesn't know how big he will be when he's fully grown. - Spike is 6.6ft, and while that does mean he's not as large as most demons, he uses that to his advantage with larger opponents as he is very fast. - Lily is 5.6ft, technically her heels add about 2 inches to her height, so she's really 5.4ft, still pretty short. - Leng Ren is 8.0ft, meaning she's pretty tall compared to humans, but pretty short compared to other demons. As expected, many Demons and Demon Hunters tend to underestimate her due to her height and looks, sure they've heard stories about her fearsome reign, but those are just stories, right? RIGHT???? ( Also yes, I was able to remove the background of Leng Ren's pic to get a transparent one, I was actually surprised I was able to remove the layer the background was on since the layers usually merges together on their own of finished drawings) - And finally we have Xiao Fung, and while I'm still not certain of his real height, I estimate he is 8.0ft when crouched down, an 10ft when standing. As you can tell, he is pretty big compared to everyone else, yet is the second smallest among his siblings, with Hsi Wu being the smallest one. But he is still very tall compared to his wife, son, Spike and Lily. Also I kinda have a headcanon that Xiao isn't very good with physically attacking unless his opponent is closer to him, since his large neck doesn't really allow him to move very fast( You can see this pretty true in canon in the Episode The Eighth Door when he and his siblings were racing to Shendu's portal, he was hopping on the floating rocks to get to the portal till Po Kong slammed into him thanks to Tso Lan blasting her with his powers) That's why he mainly uses his wind powers to both fight and stopping fast opponents when they are in front of him, and I'm betting his back armor is for when opponents get behind him and try to attack him from there. So he has good defense. And that's everyone's heights!! Well... almost everyone, since I haven't drawn Thorn and Blade yet, their heights have yet to be determined, but I do plan on updating the height chart when I do draw them so we can get a good comparison of their heights to the rest of the family. And so I think that it, tell me what you think. Aslo this very handy Blank Character Height Chart is made by parallaxabomination on DA

[whatdoesshedotothem]

Friday 23 June 1837

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very fine morning and F67 ½° at 7 20 am at the pools at the meer and about till breakfast at 9 in about ¾ hour – then out all the day at the meer and pools and about till came in at 7 – A- did not return till 7 ¼ very much tired and lay down and did not appear at dinner – dinner at 7 ½ to about 8 – then out near an hour at the pools – coffee at 9 – read the paper partly aloud to Mr. Gray – came upstairs at 10 ½ very fine day – F65° at 9 ¾ pm – Had Mr. Jubb about 2 – Hannah (Mrs. Heap) going on very well – had Messrs. George Bates and Pollett and the engineer about (before) 4 – went down with them to the wheel-race – Mr. GB- said it would be six weeks before they could be ready – I said that would be terrible – the pumps must be put in immediately and we must have them at work in a fortnight – mentioned the pen-trough bring ashler – the pen-trough must hang over 13ft. the longest plank may be 16ft. and the shortest 8ft. long – then sent Joseph Mann to them to explain about having room in the engine pit – sat with A- tonight at her bedside from 10 ½ to 10 35 and read her letter come tonight from her sister – not an answer to A-‘s last so did not know of Mrs. Heap’s breaking her arm – Frank brought lime from the plasterer and Zebedee large stone for Mr. Gray from Hipperholme quarry Robert + 4 and from 11 am + 2 of Joseph men at the pools, puddling, setting 3 large rag stone, and one flag in the (below the) 2nd pool – George N-‘s 2 one horse carts as yesterday carting rubbing from gardener wall-races to the top of embankment along the low wish pond – Mark Hepworth and c° digging and carting away stuff from under the hall windows – 4 masons putting on the tower slating – 2 at the wash-house chimney and James laying the flagging round the house in the court – John Booths’ son-in-law that [married] Hannah came this morning (1st time) to pull up kexes -  Crowther the librarian called this afternoon and brought me 4 vols. Maurices’ Indian Antiquities – Booth and I and the gardener agreed that the garden wall footings will do to be dry walling grouted which should be done for 5/. a rood instead of 9/. and Ingham could do it – wrote all the above of today till 11 10 – Robert the York joiner and Henry Royle began this morning preparing read room ceiling and the other 2 York joiners began preparing Library passage ceiling – Blythe still unable to work – Mr. Bates brought estate of pen-trough £45 Rolling clow complete £47 and governor £21+ he took back the estate to alter the clow reduce the wood work to longest plank 16ft. and shortest 8ft. long – said I did not object to any of the changes – Mr. Pollett to come over tomorrow afternoon about 3, and all to be settled – there was a charge of a shilling a day for setting but I objected to having any such extra

[binniedeactivated]

Ok ngl but for me, i personally prefer 🍆 on the smaller side 👁👄👁 I just find bigger ones, like 8ft just look a bit odd TO ME. i like the smaller ones with an even girth. I just dont see any of the txt boys with a MASSIVE DING DONG but beimgyu tho, the video doesnt lie 👀👀

true true. honestly i appreciate dicks of all sizes just as long as the girth is there!! cuz girl i’ll take a thick 6-7 incher over some long georgia hot type shit any day!! I can see the txt boys with big dick’s tho bc if beomgyu is big like that and he’s only 5′10, and he’s the shortest... like omfg. I alr know soobin has the girth. i feel like yj has a little bit of both

[marshmallowprotection]

Minji is slightly taller than Saeyoung, and Judas is slightly shorter than him, so how much taller is Minji to Judas? How does Judas feel about it? Does he enjoy that she's bigger and maybe stronger than him, or does it make him feel insecure at all? Does Judas ever get flustered???

Seven is canonically like 175 cm which translates to about 5′9ft. Minji is 178cm which makes her around 5′10ft. Judas is about 171cm which means he’s around 5′7ft. So, using that to make the difference, there are about 3 inches between Judas and Minji. I think there’s needs to be more tall MC love out there and that’s the dream we are fulfilling here. 

We all know that Saeyoung loves a tall woman. That’s a given, and he’s so easy to toy with. Minji is really bad about that. She’s very bubbly and nice to people but she has that playful side to her that is a lot like Seven’s persona. So, yes, once she realizes that she also likes Judas, my God, she’s going to out flirt this bastard. 

Judas is known for making people swoon and turn all shades of red. It’s his talent. However, he’s got a weakness as it turns out and that weakness is a confident woman. At first, he feels like she’s making fun of him by being so affectionately strong about her love. 

He’ll try to flirt with her and she flips the tables on him. She’ll pull him into hugs and beam as he nearly chokes. She’s guilty using people are her personal pillows, or just leaning over their shoulders and kissing them. Oh, and the infamous forehead smooches always win. He’s never been upfront about his insecurities but he does feel like he has a lot of shortcomings. 

After all, the one that he loved and lost his life for all those years ago threw him away when Judas’ affections. He really fears being thrown away after people have their fun with him. Even with Saeyoung. He’s scared that the man will throw him away someday. That’s why he fucking ran when Saeyoung stopped Vanderwood from killing him. 

The game they were playing got too real. He got scared. 

It’s with Minji, really, that he starts to loosen up and let himself show those fears. She’s easy to talk to and she has a way of making people come out of their shells, she got Saeyoung to stop being an ass, and she will make Judas see that he can be loved. 

 After he’s used to it, he’s very needy. He’ll find every excuse to crawl into her arms and let her pet him, or Saeyoung, he really doesn’t mind who is pawing at him. Just love him. Please. 

If you also need this for approximation and your imaginations, Saeran is 173cm which makes him around 5′8ft; Lila is the shortest of the bunch as she’s around 151cm, which means that’s about 5′0ft unless my math is wrong here.