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WHAT IS THIS THUMBNAIL? DO I WANNA WATCH THIS???
#I havent been into dsmp for 3 years bro why is this on my recs#GAY??? MEXICAN???#WOKE??#im 2 hours deep into it rn its so far summarising the plot#dsmp#dsmpblr#mcytblr#quackity#jschlatt#tommyinnit#tubbo#technoblade#ranboo#the thumbnail having only 1 of the bad people tho...
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SO. THAT NEW EPISODE HUH
(blah blah blah, reactionās under the cut. Yāknow this already)
⢠THE FUCK IS THAT THUMBNAIL. THIS IS LIKE THE 5TH DC THUMBNAIL TO HAVE TWO GUYS KISSING EACH OTHER IF YA INCLUDE THE TOMJAKE SPINOFF
⢠OFC THE SCENE WHERE DEREKāS APPLAUDS TREVOR DURING THE CHALLENGE DEMO PLAYS OVER HIM TALKING ABOUT LAST EPISODEāS CHALLENGE
⢠STOP REMINDING ME THAT ALESSIOāS FUCKING GONE
⢠WAIT DONāT PLAY THE INTRO, HEāS LITERALLY THE FIRST CONTESTANT WE SEE IN IT
⢠āLook pokerās very skilled based, but Iām realizing i need to play with more poignancyā Bro idk what the actual fuck you do to play poker, so I can see where heās probably coming from
⢠Idk if Lynda sounds like sheās lying or not, but I immediately got blindsided over Ted mentioning his wife AND son. Fucking plot twist right there lmao
⢠Thereās smth pretty sweet about Ted & Lynda bonding about their kids going through puberty lmao
⢠Uh oh new alliance droppped
⢠GET HER ASS ANASTASIA. PICK ON HER BITCHASS FOR DECIDING TO ELIMINATE ALESSIO
⢠āTed told me Alessio was bringing the boys together. He was a quiet mastermind.ā BULLSHIT
⢠MF HE WAS ONLY HERE TO GET ARTISTIC ENLIGHTENMENT. KEEP MY KINāS NAME OUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH
⢠Isabelās being sillyyyy- WAIT LOGANāS STARING AT ONE OF ALESSIOāS PAINTINGS WITH A SAD FACE. YOU CANāT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
⢠āGot a thing for fine-wine italians?ā LMAO NATALIA
⢠AWWW LOGANāS DEFENDING ALESSIO
⢠āLoganās a sweet kidā Damn right
⢠WAIT THEY ACTUALLY SAID THE WORD. NATALIA MENTIONED HER BEING TRANS STRAIGHT UP HELL YEA
⢠Caught in 4K lol
⢠Oooooo Amelieās getting suspicions
⢠Ofc Jade tells Spencer about her idol hint. Hmmmm, she doesnāt mention how she ACTUALLY got it thoā¦
⢠What kind of distraction does Jade want Spence to make?
⢠Benjiās eepy
⢠āItās for the gameā I KNOW WHERE THIS IS FUCKING GOINGGGGGGG
⢠NO WAY HEāS TRYING TO FLIRT WITH HIM
⢠Broās rizz is worse than a certain bald cubito I know
⢠Pretty nice Diencer crumbs tho. I saw someone call them āstudyguideā & I think thatās an AMAZING ship name. Iām using that for them from here on out >:D
⢠YEA SHE GOT THE IDOL!
⢠Aw her backstory ;-;
⢠She got picked on for her skin condition, but her moms were still supportive of her :āD
⢠YEA JADE YOU GO GIRL. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS
⢠Group yoga :D
⢠YEA VIBE TRIBE TRIO BONDING. I LOVE THEM
⢠Love me some Zaivy crumbs. Thereās gotta be a cool ship name out there that mixes culinary & performing arts together
⢠āI have Spencer on my radar. Him and Diego are getting tightā YEA I CAN SEE WHERE YOUāRE COMING FROM IVY >:3
⢠HANNAH ILY. But yea Diegoās kinda right, yāall better not get cocky
⢠āHaha, cockā I felt this with my soul. Especially everyone getting weirded by Benji saying this. ITāS THE GIVING HEAD THING FROM EP 1 ALL OVER AGAIN
⢠āRunning into traffic would be safer than having you as a lawyer.ā HOLY SHIT SHE FUCKING KILLED YOU DUDE
⢠BENJIāS A FUCKING DORK. I LOVE HIM
⢠āI want to win to win this show. So I can quit law, and start a new life. Maybe figure out actual goals for myself.ā BRO IāM ROOTING FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS SHOW WTF. LIKE AT FIRST, I WAS JUST ROOTING FOR TRISTAN & HANNAH BECAUSE I COULD SEE A PART OF MYSELF IN THEM AS A NON-BINARY FILIPINO-CANADIAN, BUT BASICALLY EVERYONE IS SO INTRIGUING IN A WAY. AND THIS INCLUDES ALESSIO
⢠Why was everyone expecting Alessio getting the boot- WAIT DONāT SAY THAT IN FRONT OF LOGAN HEāS GETTING SAD
⢠āMālady.ā DEREK HELPING UP TREVOR ONTO THE TRAIN CART???? AND THEN THEY HAVE FUCKING SPARKLES IN THEIR EYES??? I NEED TO BE SEDATED
⢠Ooo truth or dare challenge involving the contestantsā fears? Does that mean Logan has some internalized homophobia considering the thumbnail?
⢠Oh damn, Emily looks like sheāll have fun giving out the truths & dares
⢠Why would Amelie be up in arms about reading- oh wait thereās bad reviews on that paper, that makes sense
⢠āMarissa! Answer this; rank your team from most valuable to leastā Lemme guess, Anastasiaās the most valuable on her list
⢠ANASTASIA ENCOURAGING HER TO DO SO IS PROVING MY POINT
⢠Ooooo they peeking :> Tristanās face look rlly cute :D
⢠Yeah I can see why her teamās laughing at the insults from her bad reviews
⢠Marissa opting out of ranking her teammates honestly makes sense when she wants her team to be unified in some kind of way
⢠Lynda shut the fuck up.
⢠SEE NATALIA AGREES WITH ME- and ofc Tedās siding with Lynda after the convo we saw between them
⢠YEA MORE ANARISSA CRUMBS >:D
⢠āI believe in english you refer to that as a⦠meatrider!ā LMAOOOOO YEA
⢠Oh nice theyāre besties now!
⢠wait this reminds me of somethingā¦
⢠TWO STARS? HANNAH DESERVES 5 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
⢠āDescribe the worst dish you ever madeā Zaid it canāt be that bad bro, whatās with the shocked face
⢠āBro, youāre like⦠youāre like Gordon Ramsay! Who cares if ya made an undercooked steak once, yāknow? Cāmon just tell her!ā YEA TRISTAN! >:D
⢠Oh yeah, it can be that bad. Who the fuck cooks KOALA
⢠DIEGOāS HOLDING ONTO SPENCER
⢠Also, plz donāt puke again bro
⢠Oh so it was for money, and he didnāt know he was gonna cook that. AIght makes sense
⢠āTell that to PETAā LMAOOOOO
⢠DIEGOāS STILL HOLDING ONTO SPECNER WHILE THEYāRE LEAVING THE TRAIN CART
⢠Richard, you only have two strands of hair on your head, itāll be fineeee
⢠See? He accepted it- wait nvm
⢠BRO WE CANNOT TELL IF YA SHAVED YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HAT ON. RELAX
⢠Oh noooo, Ivy had to eat a worm. At least Zaidās there to comfort her
⢠Itās just a cold bath, whyās Ted scared of that- anddd heās uhh⦠is he dead
⢠LOGANāS FIREMAN CARRYING HIS BODY LMAO
⢠Ngl I used to be scared of dogs when I was a toddler I can see where Lyndaās coming from
⢠WAIT BENJIāS JOTARO COSPLAY LOOKS AWESOME. WHY IS EVERYONE LAUGHING AT HIM OVER THAT
⢠Aw, Tristanās there to comfort Benji :D
⢠I feel like I could solve the math question Jade got. Proud that she got it right! :D
⢠NAT HAS TO DO PUSHUPS OVER A BUNCH OF FUCKING MOUSE TRAPS?!
⢠Aw, Isabelās praying for her :D
⢠āItās just one question. How hard can it be.ā I can see Apolloās gift of prophecy hitting her like a dodgeball
⢠told ya. Then again, I am kinda intrigued about how Isabel converted to catholicism after she mentioned her parents werenāt catholic
⢠YOU GOT THIS TRISTAN!
⢠āIām feeling left out. Ted got an ice bath, and Benji got to show off some dope cosplays! Whereās my moment in the spotlight, ya know?ā I LOVE HOW TRISTANāS ANIMATION LOOKS SO BOUNCY DURING THIS. THEY LOOK SO CONFIDENT & HAPPY
⢠āSorry to interrupt!ā I JUST WANNA SEE TRISTAN MAN WTF
⢠Also fun fact, apparently the guy encouraging you to support ONC is actually Connorās VA! Small world, huh?
⢠Either way, please go support Disventure Camp, and ONC at large. This whole Toon Boom thing really hit them hard, but any kind of support will help them out!
⢠Tristan has to punch someone in the face? Whatās wrong with that?
⢠Oh yeah thatās right, Tristanās here for a good time and thinks being friends with othersāll help them get further in the game. I still like going back to their audition tape from time to time :>
⢠āUh⦠how hard?ā āStrong enough to hurt! Weak enough to not cause a lawsuit.ā LMAOOOOOO
⢠Zaid volunteers as tribute
⢠Makes sense since they were upset about the koala taco thing
⢠Ivy cheering Tristan to deck Zaid in the face reminds me on this one āYES SONIC! SPLIT IT WIDE OPEN!ā comment I saw in a Sonic Frontiers vid. The vid was basically just the song that played when you fought the Knight boss (dope song btw, Itās called āFind Your Flameā)
⢠OH DAMN, BROāS IN A FIGHTING STANCE & EVERYTHING- they missed Zaidās face and punched his chest instead
⢠Part of me isnāt surprised considering how their fight with Richard went last episode
⢠āPretend Iām your worst enemy.ā āI aināt got one of those!ā Mood
⢠I didnāt know why Tristan got upset over Zaid calling them Marilyn Manson, but one google search later, and yeah I can see why Tristan decked him in the face
⢠Tristanās so sweet i love them :D They immediately apologized to Zaid after punching him
⢠TRISTAN BACKSTORY HELL YEA
⢠āThe world keeps spinning regardless if youāre frowning or smiling, so I guess I choose to keep smiling.ā PRECH IT TRISTAN ILY. WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME MINDSET
⢠Wait we donāt hear Isabelās entire backstory? Just the end of it? damnit >:|
⢠NAH DIEGO HAS TO FIGHT A CHICKEN- wait was that the fucking minecraft chicken sound effect
⢠āGo! Diego, go!ā that has to be an intentional reference
⢠AW SPENCERāS NONVERBALLY CHEERING FOR HIM :D
⢠DAMN HEāS GETTING CLOCKED BY THAT CHICKEN
⢠Richard stop saying that āitās just hairā when youāre bitchass was sobbing over losing two fucking strands from your head
⢠Ngl Anastasiaās design is really growing on me. No wonder Marissa called her pretty :>
⢠Also her whole āMen only see me for my looksā thing is not helping her beat the lesbian allegations
⢠Oh shit, whyās Spencer afraid to talk about his previous relationship. WHYāS HE LYING????????
⢠BRO DIEGO COMFORTING AND TELLING HIM TO HOLD ONTO HIM HAS GOTTA BE A PARALLEL TO DIEGO HOLDING ONTO SPENCER DURING EPISODE 1āS ROLLER COASTER CHALLENGE
⢠āYour dare is⦠to kiss a model we brought backstage.ā Ohā¦. OH
⢠āHelloooo gorgeous- A DUDE! THATāS A DUDE!ā Is this internalized homophobia? (plz picture the āis that a pigeonā meme while ur reading this. I might look kinda rude-)
⢠āJust picture heās Alessio!ā LMAOOOOOO
⢠Oh damn heās enjoying that- BITCH THE FOOTPOP??
⢠Blue team walking into a Trevek shoulder grasp lmao
⢠āThis kiss was fine I guessā¦ā I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
⢠Oh I am DREADING this elimination. EVERYONE IN IT IS LIKEABLE AND/OR INTRIGUING. ESPECIALLY TRISTAN & HANNAH
⢠āHannahās been really helpful with mending bridges. Itās⦠not an awful idea listening to her.ā DAMN RIGHT! >:D
⢠Yeah Jadeās suspicious about Amelie.
⢠Oh damn, trios & groups are being set in stone in red team; thereās Diego, Jade, & Spencer, the vibe tribe, and Hannah, Amelie, & Benji by the looks of it
⢠DIEGO CALLED HIM āSPENCEā. THEYāRE ON A NICKNAME BASIS
⢠SHOULDER GRASP. WE GOT ANOTHER STUDYGUIDE SHOULDER GRASP
⢠Oh shit we got some TENSION
⢠Hannah listening in on Tristan wanting to vote out Amelie. Call that tristannah crumbs (Iām getting delusional atp)
⢠SPENCER OR AMELIE MIGHT GET OUT?! WTF I LIKE BOTH OF THEM
⢠At least itās not Benji ig. HE SURVIVES TO LIVE ANOTHER DAY! WHO CHEERED
⢠āWhy was I not consulted by Spencer? Am I that lame?ā Bro did you forget what happened during the challenge. he was LAUGHING at your cosplays
⢠Aw, Hannahās upset ;-; but her putting her head in her hands reminds me of that shinji chair meme lmao
⢠HANNAH TALKED TO TRISTAN OFF-SCREEN LETāS GOOOOO
⢠Oh shit, the votes are in vibe tribeās hands
⢠Trevekās rubbing off of each other. I LOVE IT
⢠Tristan pondering their vote by tapping the pen on their head honestly feels in character
⢠Oh god, I think I know where this is goingā¦
⢠BENJI GOT DISTRACTED BY A FLY AGAIN LMAO
⢠ā¦
⢠I mean⦠they probably want to continue the studyguide plotline, and Amelie did paint a target on her back by being a dick. So⦠yeah, Iām not that surprised over her elimination
⢠this is an actually heartfelt goodbye- WAIT TREVEKāS JUST LOOKING AT HER WITH BLANK ASS EXPRESSIONS LMAO
⢠āThank you all⦠for being good teammates. I know I was harsh with some of you, but⦠that was only because I wanted us to win. Hope itās not personal.ā ONCāS FUCKING ME UP TWO ELIMINATIONS IN A ROW. I DIDNāT ASK FOR SEVERE EMOTIONAL PAIN
⢠AW HANNAH WENT IN TO HUG HER
⢠Oh shit, she left with a sad look on her face. That honestly hits different when ya remember that Alessio left with a smile
⢠So yeah, all in all, pretty great episode! Shipping crumbs were great as always (especially for studyguide :>), itās nice to see Logan⦠well⦠yāknow, and NOW IāM SAD OVER TWO ELIMINATIONS-
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things i want to get answers to in the remaining episodes of four leaf: a very comprehensive list that must be missing some things i just cant remember at the moment (also soilers for up until ep 139):
just in general evrything about the bells, and more especiall like how is lina giving lupe her bells (because that is 100% gonna happen i think) gonna affect them, for example if they'll get lina's bell as like their own, and if that bell being kinda broken is gonna be any problem
will that be a permanent change, is lupe gonna give the bell back to lina after they deal with the wolf
what's gonna happen to cricket if they really do deal with the wolf? or how will tehy come to some wsolution that doesnt harm anyone
CARLA!!! is she gonna be okay? that wound looks very nasty. i hope they'll be able to cure it somehow, and if not, then chopchop there goes a leg :/
talking about carla, is she gonna give er bells to someone like she mentioned in 138? that is only in case she wont be able to continue, but it loks very bad rn, so my question is, is it gonnna be mercy? or in general, who is it gonna be?
also about the bells, i really wanna know how many bells each witch has!! it''s just something i think would be interesting to analyse. (i looked through all the episodes where a witch has their bells out buut i still now only know for certain the number of bels like 7 witches have (before 137 and emma giving up her bells): Erica 1, Emma 2, Socks 2 (most likely, unless she got mor after the prison break, that's when she at least shows only 2), Alishba 3, Linda 3 (both of whose bells were shown during the prison break), Carla 20, Lina 21.
also also (i use that word so much), the names of the witches! we now know there are 17 witches in the red hoods (+lupe +lina so maybe 19 but oh well) and of those 17 we know the names of 12 (episode 133)
what i wanna know too is like which bell belongs to which witch? we've seen some, for example in the flashback of when they first appeared, and also in the festival of roses we see some, but like i wnna knowww (ye sit's very trivial but that's what makes it fun i think)
the mom. what happened with her in the 8 months that have passed since lupe was last in their original world? did she just continue on like normal, or did she actually regret some of the things she's done? will lupe go see her again?
the inevitable. the thing i've been waiting for for like 2 years. the KISS! alvar mentioned the witch loking very mad and the also saying he's the kinda guy to ask twice before a first kiss and what i think will happen is that he is gonna ask. like he's just the kinda guy. but the thing lupe (most likely) will be "mad" about is just that al didnt tell about it (even tho he was gonna tell you lupe, you just didnt want him to). or they arent mad, but just like very confused/fristrated and Al just interpreted it wrong? i dont know. we'll see (hopefully tomorrow in 140 but at the evry least in 141?? like i dont think it will take so long that it would be 142? (i am delusional). also looking at the future chapter thumbnails (not a fast pass reader), it looks like someone is using some kind of reddish/pinkish magic / teleporting right next to him)
okay this isnt a theory or anything, i just know lupe's dad is gonna be so smug learning about lupe and al's relationship when they do get into one like judging from ep 116 and the "crush" i jut know
okay wow this is a long post but i need to get these out of my head and scream into the void and wait if it screams back
back to the bells, they'r gonna give everyone their own one back right? if they deal wit hthe wolf, there shouldnt be any need to hoard all the power, and i dont think it would be very fair to let 72 people just go on about life without really even knowing what's going no just because you wanna levitate. i know it's probably more complicated than that but yeah
also (fuck, this word again) what's gonna happen to the witchs' craving of gloom? is it gonna go away if there is no wolf (okay this is assuming that it's dealt with and they wont come to a peaceful comclusion but if that happens i just really hope cricket will be okay)
are other witches gonna wanna get rid of their bells and become human like emma?
i would like some more information about the different worlds, although i think it's unlikely tha will come up in the chapters themselves, but maybe as some bonus content somewhere?
okay so i already wrote about like if Lina's bell being broken is gonna have any effect on lupe, but will it affect Lina herself? i would assume not, but you never know
just in general, i cant wait to see how everything comes to a conclusion and how the ending is gonna be (even tho i would love for it to go on for longer). are we gonnna see another time skip?
man i just remembered there are alaso civilians in Garua at the moment too like the redhoods are gonna get the to safety right? maybe that will also help a little with the public's fear of the witches, the news that hey maybe they're not bad through and through (even tho that was never the case but most people still thought that so)
fuck this is long how many words even is this... 1005???? man that's like 2/3 of the essays we had to write in high school. yea it's easier to just put stuff from your mind into bullet points but this has taken me like maybe 45 minutes where as those essays took at least 5 hours. i bet i could make one from one of my interests in like 2 hours and i would be much better than any of those monstrocities i wrote
anyway back on track
actually those are the main ones i remember now, maybe i'll update this once more come to mind, but for now this is enough for today
pictured above is me falling for this series
wait one more thing: is it stated anywhere how much the bells weigh? i would assume they're more like incorporeal so they wouldn't hve any mass, and i fell like should know this i've read this series 5 or 6 times. but if they do infact hve mass, do the witches have to actively levitate them or are they jsut funky like that
#fellow four leaf readers please tell me stuff i didnt consider that should probably be here#four leaf webtoon#four leaf#webtoon#tuisku thinks (shocking)#man i just have so many questions and i just want to know everything about this world#or worlds#this is honestly one of my all time favorite serieses#in all media formats#i know i've said it before but it is true so it should be stated again#im so normal about it you dont even know#also i hope most of those havent already been answered although some might have been#sporry for anyone who had to see this/read all of it i applaud you this was so not organized and very confusing#villasukat.
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Per l'ask game 9, 10, 18, 20, 29, e 35 :D
Lo so sono tantissimi ma non riuscivo a decidermi XD quindi fai pure solo quelli che ti pareš
Grazieeeš
9. What do you consider your biggest accomplishment?
Two years ago finding a job all by myself was the big step for me. Back then I've lost any interest in studying more years at uni so I thought getting a job would have been a step forward. After a while I realized I don't really care much about it, a job is a job.
But my biggest one is something a bit different, not my accomplishment as per say something i did totally by myself but yet a very BIG one. I dont really feel like saying it here but I think you know, can't wait to see at the end of next month š
10. What is a fact about you that nobody would believe?
I don't think I did anything so extraordinary that it would be unbelievable lmao
Well the only thing that came to mind is the fact I once did the thumbnail for a youtube video which has now over 1 milion views lol
18. What is something you're really bad at?Math XD
Well I'm not good in a lot of things but one of them is remembering names of places or people especially if I've never seen them irl lmao
20. What's a totally random and useless fact that you know?
Kenopsia is the eerie feeling of absence, the atmosphere of a place thatās usually bustling with people but is now abandoned and completely silent like aĀ school hallway in in the night āan emotional afterimage that makes it seem not just empty but avoid of any life.
29. Favorite song lyrics right now?
I took the train, I took the call
I didnt know just where I'd fall
or where it would take me
Another step, another stare
I would never know if I get there but maybe
I want something more than
More than restless morning's getting by
Fever Dream by mxmtoon
35. What kind of first impression do you think you make on people?
I sencerely don't know lol I think the first impression I make is never the best one I picture even tho i try to act as friendly as possible but that's something I cannot really know and control.
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THEYRE GOING TO COACHELLA!!! ON THE SAME DAY AS LOVEJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY ATEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but yes. The Powerpoint. i jumped up and down irl when i saw this in my notifs you dont even know the levels of fixation i have about their storyline. to summarise ateez storyline is about 8 young people with broken lives coming together and becoming a found family and also overthrowing a dystopia that suppresses emotion, art, music, literature etc (and a realistic sense of what that might look like, how overwhelming emotion as a concept is, etc. like genuinely trigger warning for suicide and kinda graphic violence in some parts of the diaries but they're pretty short so it's not too bad). incidentally much like mcrp, the characters of lore ateez are fictional, but share names with and are loosely based on the irl members with their own inputs on their backstories. their story is mostly told through diaries released in their albums' photobooks, but also their MVs, choreography, song lyrics, certain stage performances, concerts, they drop hints for it everywhere else too tho. hell even their coachella performance will likely have lore or at least allusions to it given the director they'll be working with for it
i did not make this powerpoint but it was shared with me the other day and it's really really good, better than the one i made myself, there is literally only 1 fault that i have with it and it's an incredibly minor one. it explains their storyline so so well. for ateez's discography i really recommend like... every song they've ever released, they do not have a single bad song and so much of their discography also links to their storyline, especially the world series. i have written thousands of words analysing their music and even their fucking track placements in albums because it all connects. but specifically if you want storyline i recommend halazia, say my name, and again every the world series album in particular i love ateez so much oh my god.
i'm also attaching this video as a big embed tm because like. Well ok ignore the thumbnail i cant justify that but the first 5 minutes are just pure storyline being told through dance and Big Fuck Off Eye Of Sauron. theyre so awesome. they care so so much about their art like theyre the only kpop group i'm into and all of this is why theyre just on a different level im so. the ateez pill is real. godddd
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my hot take for tonight is i feel many mcyt fans have a stick up their ass about kpop or other irl people stans sometimes like the āweāre here for the characters not ccs we donāt care about the real peopleā schtick gets a little old when those same people very much consistently are reblogging pics and facts and gifs of the irl ccs and talking about being attracted to them and incorporating elements of non-rp dynamics into fics. i am not saying any of this is a bad thing and i get the derision of kpop stans etc in the sense that many of them are genuinely clinically insane (i would know) i just think itās funny how people forget that they do the same things as them. like itās okay.
#ateez be like. this is our song about our will to live being crushed in this unending dystopia#now heres the horniest choreography youve ever seen#they have at least two songs in which they do exactly that.#but it's really funny and most of their fans are adults so my aroace ass just laughs#Youtube
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4 seasons and a lot of cringing later, I have finished stvfoe. Season 1 and 2 were pretty good. Season 3 was messy, but they pulled it together. Season 4 OK THEY COMPLETELY FUCKED UP THE ROMANTIC SUBPLOT but the magic plot is going ok OH GOD NO. WHY. DID WE REALLY NEED CLEAVED? AT ALL???
Overall, I knew it was gonna end bad, but HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT BAD-
(Tom, Janna, Eclipsa, and a select few other characters will forever be great tho)
NO LITERALLY THIS IS SUCH A GOOD SUMMARY OF SVTFOEāS FOUR SEASONS
Seasons 1 and 2 were so top tier and then seasons 3 and 4 were just a mess with their only saving graces being Tomās redemption, Eclipsa being absolutely delightful, and Janna just being Janna.
The thing that sucks about starco and how they ended up getting together is not only did they wait until the ending of the show to do that but they crashed through so many shipping hurdles just to get to a ship we all knew was endgame during season one, itās ridiculous. You can tell there were people on the Star VS crew who were biased for one ship over another and it showed through how we had to watch 3 couples get together and break up just for the inevitable Starco to happen.
The fact they spent so much of seasons 3 and 4 on the romantic subplot over its story to appease shippers is embarrassing.
Oh and donāt even get me started on how they fucked up Moonās character in season 4 and how anticlimactic Mina was as an endgame villain. There was so much lore and backstory about Toffee and his reptilian army, LIKE HIS FUCKING LEADER SETH????, but they chose MINA of all people to be the final seasons villain I-
I just canāt with how many bad decisions this show made.
If you want a full analysis of how badly the show went downhill thatās not only incredibly well done but extremely respectful, I recommend this video by Blue Order on YouTube:

(Tumblr is being a butt and wonāt let me link it so hereās the title and itās thumbnail lmao)
Even though itās long, he does a really good job with explaining how the shows poor writing decisions affected the show in the long run and what other choices they couldāve made to make their show better.
Iāve lost count how many times Iāve rewatched this because itās genuinely a rlly well made video.
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Okay, Iām just doing this once, to link it to all the idiots who exist in the future.
Dear Makoto fans (cause I donāt know other Rin haters out there), Iām gonna try to explain it as simple as possible.Ā
If the video is titledĀ āRin & Haruā, it is most likely surprisingly is about Rin and wait for it, cause you wonāt believe it... Haru. So if you hate Rin and you see a video, which title containsĀ āRinā AND thereās an actual Rin on the thumbnail
maybe (but thatās just me going crazy here)... maybe you shouldnāt look for Makoto there. Cause I donāt believe they look similar.. but I might check my eyes just in case later.
So for all the pals like this one:

(and there was a bunch of others that Iāve muted), if you have two brain cells left, please invite them over for a minute here.
1. It is not my fault that my video reached over half a million views and got into Youtube recommendations. Iām not responsible for no your recommendations, no mine. Youtube recommends me all kind of stuff, including Ikuya vids, for example, cause theyāre also related to Free!, doesnāt mean I have to watch them.
Like you wonāt believe it, but not only the āI donāt wanna watch thisā button exists there, but there is also such a crazy possibilty as to NOT WATCH YOUR NOTP VIDEOS (and YES IT FREAKING EXISTS!). You do it by not clicking on the vid and just, well, you know, not watching it with those two thingies on your face thats called eyes.
Also thanks for being my biggest fan and all, but thereās really no need to go through all of my vids, if you donāt even like this ship. Cause I kinda considered to take it as a compliment for a moment there. But this amount of free time honestly can be used to create your own content that actually includes your otp. Just saying.Ā
2. Breaking news here, but just because Rin makes your ship invalid, doesnāt mean heās a bad character.Ā
So letās just all hate him for much moreĀ āobvious reasonsā like:
- being a great brother:
- being a great son:
- being a great friend:
-being a great boyfriend:
- for working hard to get where he wanted in life and for fighting for his dreams:
I knoooow right? I hate dat perfect bitch, too, but thereās really no need to be agressive about it. You can instead try to do all these beautiful things, too (itās very hard tho, but believe me itās really worth it) xD
Like instead of watching a video about Rinharu, whom you hate or scrolling through their tag, try maybe cooking your mom a dinner for once or smth. And I know that to your part of the fandom having life goals is very offensive, but maybe you should try these, too.
Or like maybe watch a 10 minutes Chloe Ting challenge vid and spend few minutes doing this. I mean thatās how I got my sexy abs, after watching Harurin perfect bods xD I mean, all better than bindge watching your notp vids.
3. For tumblr haters. Thereās actually such thing as blocking a tag on tumblr. Like āFree!ā is a mutual tag, but if you block āRinharuā tag, you wonāt see my post even in the Free! tag. I mean, yeah, tumblr mulfunction sometimes, but in general it works. If the malfunction happens, just scroll past it.Ā
Cause Iām just kinda already reconsidering my respectful non tagging āmakoharuā and āmakotoā policy (and mind this: I only talk about those when Iām asked), cause whatās even the point, if 90% of your fandom are idiots who search and post inĀ ārinharuā tag anyways and apparently hanging out on my blog a whole fucking lot.
I mean, Iāve been in some ugly fandoms, but I seriously have not yet seen this much disrespect to the other side, who doesnāt even touch you. Like have you not calmed your tits yet? Even in 2020? Iām really asking you to, please, reconsider this and stop embarrassing those two nice people if theyāre still there. Because Iām really close to not giving a shit in return.
4. About anonymous death threats. I have a guy, who fixed my computer, who can track those. Most times I really donāt care and just block, but what if one time Iād have lots of free time or get drunk or smth..? Cause he offered once to do it just for fun xD
5. If you want to shit so much that you just canāt help it, shit in YOUR tag. Like we donāt go there, we donāt see it and you can vent if you need it this much.Ā
You do not post Rin hate in his tag. If you do not get it, itās the tag for his fans. And no, āI hate him, cause I ship MHā is not a character study.Ā
P.S. DM me if you need any help with āhow to not go on you NOTP tagā, cause Iām such a genius, I actually know how to do this, too (lmao).
#Free!#anime#rin matsuoka#shipping#otp#rinharu#harurin#free#free! iwatobi swim club#free! road to the world#matsuoka rin
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hold up, my latest favorite artist is unf in my opinion, and therefore, i must share **also, definite warning: explicit stuff verbally and visually**
Ashnikko, Ashton Nicole Casey

Out since 2019, so catch tf up c:
Daisy by Ashnikko is so far my favorite - music video - and her official explanation of the lyrics

Iām fuckin in love with her brand of weird - thank you for doing your thing. Itās kinda creepy, kinda bloody, cute-but-hardcore... guro-kawaii, pretty much (omg, Cry with Grimes andĀ Halloweenie 3: 7 Days). I never expect anything of my Spotify Discover Weekly, but I am reminded how much I like girls (ughhh, Slumber Party, why there no videoooo? i must needs live vicariously through lesbians of this caliber) and I feel strangely empowered. I believe I have listened to every song of hers... aaand Iāve listened to a few enough times so i can sing them... in my car, very loudly >u< makes me feel sexy and gritty (Tantrum, definitely, and Drunk with my friends, though everything about the animation gave me very temporary whiplash)
Daisy with Hatsune Miku
Deal With It video made me lol <3
***Spoiler, not explicit*** she includes a sexy kraken that kills em all. heh heh.
I luuv the costumes in the Working Bitch video! ahh!
(photo from the thumbnail of the clean version video)
I HAD THOUGHT
1. it is Highly Important to note that Ashnikko = BOOTS
2. some of the hair styles and makeup and alien SFX stuff reminds me of theĀ Fecal Matter djs... whose fans are āvictimsā, lol, itās great
I WANT TO MAKE SURE ASHNIKKO KNOWS ABOUT FECAL MATTERāS BOOTS HOLY SHHH
matieresfecales Instagram stories (i indeed prefer the outlandish, authentic and shiny individual on the left :p but I kind of hope said typical human on the right had at least one nightmare. am i a bad person?)
heck, itās all so relatable. Hi, Itās Me and god, memories flooding in, right to the ouch. In the video are four masked people who iām interpreting as Ashās well-meaning friends, and my first thought was āi wish iād had real friends, especially every time it could have been clear to a stranger i was making a mistakeā :/ flipside tho, itās comforting to see in media more proof of to-err-is-human
Other Important Notes of Noteworthiness from Halloweenie 3: 7 Days
- a young girl politely requesting that her Grandfather produce music as good as Ashnikkoās (she also shows up at the end of Drunk with my friends)
- Iād only hunt witches to be friends with them, too
why Ashnikko gotta be so fuckin awesome? Her voice is strong wonderful, her style is stunning and sheās a fuckin actress... to boot (:p)
AND sheās honest, orĀ ābluntā as she puts it. hallelujah, for real. Invitation and Blow (video) lyrics. Just !?@#$ Dude, she looks like sheās having so much fun. Sheās practically oozing solid gold art and i can feel it moving me.Ā āYou cut me down, I grew,ā got me in more feelings. Itās scary, but i really want to find my style. you know, finally. like, this year instead of āsomedayā.
oh, donāt you worry, @Malena. Oct 2020, people were certainly falling in love with her. HOWEVER.

Ash knows how brilliant she it, I have absolutely no doubt. cuz itās a No Brainer, in her own words.Ā āI listen to my own music in the Uberā from nice Manners
shall i tell my mother i look up to this fukin awesome girl only 2 months older than me? I think I shall. heh.
#spotify#youtube#ashnikko#daisy#deal with it#guro kawaii#fecal matter#instagram#matieresfecales#well this post got long geez#looks like I'm making a pledge to myself
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currently thumbnailing what Iām gonna draw for the picrew & itās going well! Iām gonna have 2 draw so many fucking noses tho. Some hypothetical problems I may run into:
-clothing. Iāll have to make every piece of clothing at least twice so it can fit the plus sized bodies as well as the skinny bodies. š¤ i could maybe put those options in the color selection to keep my actual number of clothing items low? Also, Because I have 4 body types, it might be hard to have the 2 clothing options fit every size.. Idk what a good solution is atm, sooo thatās a problem for future me!
-for the dot eyes, im a bit too lazy to make whole files just 2 change their location so that theyāre looking back, so Iām gonna have to let ppl using the picrew change eye-direction manually.. which means that that can be done with any eye. Which means you can probably have eye type 1 overlapping with the eyebrows, nose, or mouth,, I think thatāll only be a problem with the randomized setting tho so ppl using the picrew can fix any mistakes for themselves. I just donāt like 2 randomize a picrew & then have to make everything look normal myself when Iām using other ppls picrews,, itās a bit inconvenient.
-im gonna have separate parts/folders for the hair, so thereās like one for the front/bangs, one for the back hair, and one for the hair tassels. Some people put stuff like ponytails in a separate folder but I donāt think I should,, it could potentially cause unnecessary overlap with the back hair & look bad. Generally I think getting ponytails/hair-ties might end up being a problem even if itās in the same folder, but idk why yet. Iām just getting a vibe.
-accessories! i know I counted right and figured out a good item limit for each folder, but im still worried I might make too many body-based options & then u can barely dress up ur character. That might not actually be a problem tho, idk
#yaāll can ask questions abt making a picrew if u want bc I donāt think Iām explaining everything perfectly in each post lol#i just think its interesting to see how these things r made so im sharing my process with you all if u want 2 make one too#going post#picrew adventures#i might want 2 like. make a picrew tutorial by the end of this#ive found a couple of good tutorials online but theyre all focused on v specific aspects of the software & id like to have a guide all in#one place
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Oh I see!! I'll make note of that, then! So I can wish you good luck for school <3 you'll be in a new grade when you start, right? and AAAAH thank you!! We will have online classes off and on, but when we actually go to school (physically) we will have exams right off the bat (ugh).
oh wow the coincidence is so cool!! Yes, the more food the better, tho some are coastal states so they have mostly seafood ._.
it really is, and you have to be very thorough with it or you might make a mistake :( I'm glad!! You should do what you enjoy, and freelancing is definitely much easier and less stressful xx
omigosh bae aaah you're so cute. No one is going to think you're uncool, don't worry. And I'm sure they'll get it in the first time you teach, you seem to be a very gentle person and I think that's one of the main characteristics of being a teacher. Tho yes I can understand getting frustrated after the second time. I'm actually the least patient person I know, so I relate to what you've said a lot skhdskks. I guess it's an ENTP thing š
I'd low-key just be a koala bear or something :> I know right!!
Icouldn't find it, ugshshshhhhh :(((
Awww. Okay, playful hitting is cute. I don't do it at all, but my friends do, whenever I flirt with them šš I think they're just flustered š¼
Oh God yes. I hate my braces but I'm glad they're coming out soon. And then I'll be able to eat anything I want. What is one food you don't think you'll be able to live without, btw? (BESIDES CHEESE, SIR).
oh Turkish delights are WONDERFUL. I've also only tried it once. Your school seems to have such wonderful food! And wow I just googled maklube, and it looks so good?? Rice and meat are low-key the perfect combo ššš (and the name is so cute?? It means upside down, right?)
oooh omg I'd totally read an article like that. Make sure you add "catboy supremacy" at the end š¹š¹š¹
yessss I love She-Ra! They're all actually remakes from old TV shows my parents watched when they were younger, and now Netflix remakes them with amazing graphics!! I also love Voltron (it's actually my favourite), and I was really into it before my anime phase as well xD I hope you're able to watch them sometime! What were you into, before anime?
And oh, love! How was your day? Mine was okay. I woke up really early and studied (and kinda burnt myself out) so I slept for an hour after studying for five. And then I had another meeting, and I watched an episode of money heist xD this may be off topic, but my Leo club is collaborating with three others from different schools and we're doing a project together! It's kinda like a tutor thingy, and there's 8 tutors who'll have 1 and a half hour slots to teach their specific subjects. I'm a tutor too, and my subject's English, so I'm really excited. I hope I'll be able to teach well, so lol, fingers crossed xD
I love you btw!! Like so so so very much. You make me smile. Let me be cheesy here, BUT THANKS FOR BEING MY SNOWMATE š¼āļø
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Hello!! Not really, this is just a small break, hehe. I'm in the last grade actually, and I'll be out of school in 25th of May~ Awhh that sucksš They have no chill, huh? Couldve at least given a revision day or something
Ouchš it's always the small things that ruin it allš
Yeah, you're right!!! Though I'm afraid I might not make enough money for a living š I'll try my best though!! Cant live without failing eh?
Ahh I really hope so~ still kind of worried. Because, you know, people are different? And I dont really wanna make them think bad of me XD I wonder if theres tutoring on how to teach someone. Thatd be useful
Koalas are so cute thoughš„ŗš„ŗ just like youš
Nanwndnnwndšš© dont worry, I'm sure itll float up when you least expect it hehe
Heheh, I also flirt with my friends and I remember one time one of them just headbutted meš©šššš
Hmm~ I dont even know, probably noodles. Extra spicy instant noodles<3 or homemade noodles. Any noodle is a fine noodleš I love them a lot, not as much as Kuro though. He's literally that vine where a guy cries over spilled spaghetti.
Yes yes yes!!!! We absolutely adore those, and if we dont have one during teatime some people just refuse to come along xD they're still forced to lmao,,, I really hope you can try them again soon!! I'm not really sure about the translation, I dont think it has one hehe, all I know is that they taste good š
I really feel like making a clickbait thumbnail for a video about that. I'll show you when I doš
Ahhh I really need to catch up on old fandoms hehe~ before anime i was really into Steven Universe... and video games, like Undertale, FNaF, Sally Face, Fran Bow... all that 2015 stuff xD I also enjoyed watching gameplay videos, because as a broke baby child I couldn't afford a game or a PC. I also liked Camp Camp, hehe
Mine was pretty good!!! Yesterday nothing much happened, I went to eat out and watched some guys dance on the street. It was fun, hehe~
Huhh??? Noo you really should've rested:(( Well, I'm glad you had a nap though!! You deserve it<3
That sounds so cool!!! I really hope the meeting went well, how'd it go? Was it hard?
Our class also made a project, where we post in a group anonymously about something that we had learned. It sounds really nice, I'm not really gonna post anything but I'm looking forward to whatever my classmates come up with xD
I love you too!! Your messages always make me so happyš„ŗ Its really an honor to be your snowmateššššš
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February 12th-February 18th, 2020 Reader Favorites Archive
The archive for the Reader Favorites chat that occurred from February 12th, 2020 to February 18th, 2020. Ā The chat focused on the following question:
When applicable, what about a creatorās art might convince you to check out their comic?
carcarchu
I like a wide range of art styles so it's hard to pinpoint specifics but if an artist is able to draw very attractive looking characters (recognizable character designs, outfits that don't look like they came out of 2004 gap catalogue, characters that can still be recognized even when they change their hair style) then i find that very appealing. beyond that how well an artist can integrate the characters with the actual space they exist in is something i find very important as well. a bunch of floating heads can only carry a series so far. if the artist can make the characters feel like they properly exist in the space i think it can really elevate the series although in practice this is something very difficult to do.
Deo101 [Millennium]
For me, honestly some art styles are very inspiring to me and that will sometimes get me to read just because I want to see the art more and learn from it. Things like textures, colors, character design... It can draw me in just by exciting me as a learning opportunity
chalcara
For me artās the hook and story the line. Come for the art, stay for the story, you know?
Funnily Iām looking less for pretty art and more for good visual story telling. I want the art to show whats going on without having to rely on dialogue.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I'm honestly very picky about art styles when it comes to comics, and that's a personal issue It has some to do with art styles being attractive to me, but honestly, the most important aspects of a creator's style to me are (1) consistency of style and anatomy, (2) level of completion, and (3) clear communication of what's happening. When it comes to whether or not I check out the comic initially, the main things that come into play with the promotional materials, covers, and/or thumbnails are contrast of the image and cleanness of the rendering. Of course, obviously, my personal tastes play into it. (I tend to like semi-realistic styles, sort of anime-ish but with a twist, or painted styles that may resemble concept art.) But honestly, probably more important than grabbing me initially to begin reading is readership retention. And that's where the 3 qualities I look for come into play: (1) Consistency of style and anatomy: This is probably the most important part for me as a reader. If I can't tell who is who because the characters change appearance from panel to panel, I'm ducking out, because that affects the clarity of storytelling. I also cringe everytime I see a particularly egregious anatomy error. I know what people look like. I see them every day. If I feel pain from looking at an artist's work, I'm not sticking around. (To be fair, everyone makes some kind of anatomy mistakes, but really it's if the anatomy mistakes are really awful to me and aren't as a result of a deliberate style CHOICE. Keyword, C H O I C E.) (2) Level of completion: This really just means that if it looks like the artist rushed through the panels or they were being lazy, I feel like their comic isn't worth my time. I mean, if an artist themselves doesn't care about their work, why should I?(edited)
. (3) Clear communication of what's happening: Once again clarity of storytelling is absolutely essential. If the composition of a large portion of the panels don't clearly show the actions of the characters, I can't follow the story. Aaaaaand as a bonus: Please, please, for the love of all powers that be, please, make your fonts legible. If I can't read the comic without squinting because your text is too tiny or hard to read, I'm not going to try. I have bad eyesight as it is. Take pity on your readers. I'm not going to suffer for your work. I have dropped far too many comics to count because the creator didn't care enough to make sure that the font was legible. And this applies to both desktop view, mobile view, scrolling format, and page to page format. Just.... Make your fonts big and clear.(edited)
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
That's interesting to think about how recognizable characters are when their hair style changes. I might try to use that as a character building exercise
Deo101 [Millennium]
Solid excercise: can you tell them all apart when they're bald and naked?
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
OoooooooOOOOOOOOOOHHHH
I
Might partake that challenge
Deo101 [Millennium]
Also it's really fun to draw characters in all sorts of hair and clothes so idk what id do if I couldn't tell them apart when doing that!!! That's like 40% of my art!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
This just convinces me more and more to do AU art
Deo101 [Millennium]
Yeah aus are another 20% of what i draw LOL
Look im drawing the comic most of the time so I wish to partake in non canon things the rest
carcarchu
@sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD) i've read series before where the character gets a hair cut / dyes it and i'm like WHO ARE YOU? IS THIS A NEW CHARACTER?
Deo101 [Millennium]
Oh another good excercise is drawing your Characters in many different styles and seeing if they remain unique when not in yours.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I want to do all of this
This is stuff I hardly ever have time for
So I am extra attracted to it
Also, there IS a time later in the comic where a certain character's hair gets partially burned off
And then he cuts it pretty short to get rid of the singed edges
And I feel like his hair is like 80% of his character design
So I'm just a little scared about that
Deo101 [Millennium]
Also, @Cronaj (Whispers of the Past) , I am unsure what you mean by "readership retention" with something that makes you interested in a comic, could you explain?(edited)
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
By readership retention, I mean aspects of the art that decide whether I'll continue reading past the first few pages
(obviously story comes into play as well, but I won't pretend that the art in the first few pages of a comic don't contribute)
Deo101 [Millennium]
Oh okay, I thought you meant like how many readers have unfollowed or something
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Nah
More like, "oh cool! Your cover and blurb seem interesting. Lemme check out the comic!"
And then after reading the first few pages/chapter:
"ah... Not for me." Or "Nice, I'll keep reading!"
Deo101 [Millennium]
Gotcha
Capitania do Azar
Ohh I don't feel like dissing particular artsyle choices, but I know a few aren't for me. I'm no big fan of ultra realistic, hyper detailed stuff you usually see in super hero comics (other genres pick that style too sometimes and I still don't really appreciate). I particularly like artstyles that are distinct and recognizable, I have a hard time with stuff from different authors that just looks... Like a carbon copy (sometimes, the style being referenced is waaay too obvious and that is always a big no for me) Good use of color is key. Give me some good values too. I want colors to make sense and I am very tired of pink. I also appreciate consistency. If you give me artwork with a more paintery style but then the comic is cellshaded, that might tip me off. But not necessarily (tho I appreciate inner consistency inside the comic itself). Rushed stuff, like mentioned above, is also not a good look, but only insofar as it distracts me from what's happening in the story. Consistency is a very important word here, because I love seeing a common line that is able to take in all the differences that are necessary in character design and backgrounds, but also make me believe that they all could live in the same world.
Oh! And also: if the artstyle involves using lineart, I am really fond of sharp, clear lines with weight variation
sagaholmgaard
I'm curious about what you guys mean with consistency- do you guys not like if an artist's art style changes over the several years it might take to make a finished webcomic? Is it that it peeves you when the backgrounds are done in, say, a painterly style while the characters are done with lineart? Is it when the artists makes ordinary illustration work in a completely different style from their comic pages? (This is genuine curiosity I hope no one's feeling attacked rn ^^)
carcarchu
i personally really like seeing an artist's skills improve and evolve over the many years it takes to draw a series
even at the expense of a more "consistent" final product
sagaholmgaard
Yeah me too, it's one thing i really like about webcomics
chalcara
Canāt talk about the others, but I get thrown off when one page is sprite comic, the next painterly, third cell-shaded without having a in-story-reasons for those style changes, like flashbacks or pov-changes. But more commonly, the issueās the classic ācomicās usually coloured, but oops, this time you only get the pencils because I had no time to updateā. If that happens too often and/or doesnāt get fixed for the archive I just lose investment in the comic.
Art evolution is natural, both in webcomic and published work with a dedicated artist.
Ah, thatās another source of inconsistency - people switching colourists or even artists around. Once in a while is fine, but if it happens every month or so, I tend to get annoyed by it. Itās actually why I killed my first webcomic twenty years ago; it was a collaberation and life kept getting in the way forcing me to switch colourists every five pages or so.
carcarchu
oh actually i have read a webcomic where they changed artist's 18 chapters in. i really fell in love with the magical and dark tone of the original artist and was engrossed in the world that they set up. they had a painterly style and it really set the atmosphere of the entire series but then the new artist had a super clean and cutesy art style and the sudden tonal shift really threw me off. in the long run the new artist was actually extremely consistent and better at actually releasing long chapters and very good quality chapters and the writing actually improved too because of it but it was never able to recapture what it was that i really loved about the original art style. also the new artist changed the character designs a little so the heroine was no longer even recognizable as the same person
since it was relatively early in the series i definitely would have preferred if they just got the new artist to actually redraw the first 18 chapters in the new style just so the change wouldnt be so incredibly jarring
chalcara
Any harsh breaks like that will cause some people to break away from the comic, I found. I dumped one of my favourite-for-years comic because the creator got bored by their main character and completely sidelined her in favour of a group of minor characters I had absolutely no interest in.
Didnāt mean the comic got worse - by all accounts its still beloved by quite a sizable audience - it just wasnāt for me anymore.
sagaholmgaard
Ahh that I can relate to. I get super attached to the main character and usually have a hard time getting into any spinoffs with the rest of the cast, even if I want to (and im a hypocrite because i also want to make spinoffs for ever side character in my own comic LOL) i guess if the style changed a LOT from page to page that would throw me off too. that feels like the artist is trying to experiment, maybe making sort comedic comic strips would be more acceptable then? Every style would at least be contained to one strip at least
DanitheCarutor
That's... actually a really good question. I don't really go for a specific aesthetic. Sometimes what's going on in the thumbnail attracts me, or it could be the use of color, the style, a character design. I'll check out a comic with just about any art style. I guess maybe if I have an idea of what the creator is going for with their art? Like, the art may have a lot of kinks, but maybe being able to tell what style they're trying to go for makes me want to check out their work? Honestly, I don't have a really strong art bias, as long as the comic is readable I'll go for almost anything. Maybe I won't check something out if the style looks extremely uninspired... like if it were the most generic, based off Japanese cartoons, style ever then I might give it a pass. But even then I do sometimes check it out anyway, so I really don't know! This question is surprisingly hard to answer! To give my last quip about last week's topic, since I don't want to derail the current one. I feel the creator's personal life is no one's business. I understand if they're a legit bad person, but digging into a creator's life to see if they qualify to be supported is... I dunno. This mindset makes me feel that if someone who liked my work ever tried to get to know me, they would be doing it solely to see if I'm good enough for them, which feels really invasive and predatory. I fully understand most people can't just enjoy something, that's how the world is, it just kinda sucks sometimes. The world kind sucks sometimes. Alright! I'm doing with giving my final thoughts on that subject.(edited)
Deo101 [Millennium]
The question is specifically about what draws you to art, rather than what turns you away so if you don't want to rag on any art styles that's not what it was asking for I think! Though yes it's very closely related (and it's not bad to say what you don't like)
Eilidh (Lady Changeling)
I definitely am more likely to read a comic that has a distinctive style - no particular style preferences, really. Interesting use of colour/value is definitely a bonus. But as long as it's engaging and the composition is good/readable, I don't really mind whether the art is "good" or not.
DanitheCarutor
@Deo101 [Millennium] I wasn't trying to rag on anything. I couldn't specify what about someone's art would draw me to their comic, it was easier to the one thing that might not, but I still said that I may be drawn in regardless. Sorry if I came off like a douchebag, totally not my intention. <_<'
Deo101 [Millennium]
No I know, someone earlier said "I don't feel like dissi g particular styles" I'll be honest I was typing my post as you were and so I didn't even read yours til after I said something(edited)
Just kind of a general thing! Feels like it went to what turns us away instead of what draws us in so just kinda a reminder of the op
sagaholmgaard
Readability is definitely important for me to want to continue following a comic, but what about the art that makes me want to read something...? I definitely have a preference toward cartoony styles overall. A solid character design will make me wanna check out a comic. If the main character has a recognizable silhouette and interesting shape language. I also love really bold lineart, especially if it's used to create shadow and contrast. Interesting color schemes too. I think how the background is drawn can really make me want to read something as well. I know BGs aren't people's favorite thing to draw but to me if the setting looks very well though out and designed, that definitely motivates me to check something out. And awe-inspiring sceneries are always hella cool! I read a lot of things outside of my artistic preferences though, but I think these are the things that might make me pick something up based only on the art itself.
keii4ii
I think I tend to find more appeal in certain compositions, which is a more subtle aspect of style. I am a major sucker for evocative use of backshots/ not-showing-the-(whole)-face, for one thing. Compositions that make full use of the three dimensional space around the figure(s) is another (this doesn't necessarily mean putting a lot of stuff around the character; you can have a mostly empty space and still make it feel very 3D).
(I hope both of those things show in my own works... I just love those things soooo much )
Deo101 [Millennium]
Oh I LOVE when a panel like... Cuts a face. Something about it makes me lose my mind every time
DanitheCarutor
@Deo101 [Millennium] Ooh! Lol sorry about that! I was so caught up with off computer stuff that I didn't notice anything else typing while I was. I haven't read the whole conversation yet, but I can see how it would turn to that. "What draws you in" is a hard topic to stay on. At least I imagine it would be since it's hard for me to talk about.
Ah! I admit I really like shots focused on scale, specifically ones were you can feel how tiny the MC is compared to what the camera is focused on. Does that make sense? Like the panel shows this ginormous thing, and it has the MC in it to show how massive it really is. That's awesome when done right.
Deo101 [Millennium]
Tiny little person. Yes. Very good
DanitheCarutor
Tiny people in giant worlds are the best!
keii4ii
I love those too!
DanitheCarutor
Oh, also this isn't a webcomic, but I've been interested in reading Vinland Saga after seeing this page on Twitter.(edited)
Something about extremely hideous expressions on semi-realistic faces jives with me.
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
What draws me in easiest is the design aspect of characters, environment and the webcomic title! It's a bit of a turn off when the title doesn't look polished. That's one of the main draws for me is an intriguingly designed logo with a catchy name that follows through their chosen aesthetic. I've seen many comics that stand apart from the title image they chose and it's a bit jarring to see! Great examples of wonderful execution of these aesthetics are BlackOut City, O'Sarilho, Sink Your HookTeeth and Shadrunners(obvs there are many more) I have to agree with @sagaholmgaard about backgrounds! There are quite a few creators who avoid them and stick to simple colours and gradients that just dont keep me in the comic- though my fave genres include a lot of world building, so BGs in a romance may not be emphasized as much. Lastly, dynamic character design!! I love a wonderfully crafted cast that allows me to read the characters easily no matter what setting or outfit they're in. Also it's really random but i do love an artist who can draw really good shoes?? That is always a draw in for me (edited)
Capitania do Azar
Oh I meant it in the way that if you spend a lot of time experimenting with different styles and techniques, you'll never be good at any of them. Style and approach changing over time is, imo, inevitable and good :) @sagaholmgaard(edited)
@@FeatherNotes(Krispy) I constantly think my logo looks like crap next to other webcomics', so thank you (edited)
DanitheCarutor
Oh god, @FeatherNotes(Krispy). Titles and logos are legit my weakest point, that part of the comic creation process is the worst! I have this cosmic-horror/fantasy comic I've been developing since 2005, and it took me till just last year to come up with a decent title. It'll probably take another 14 years to come up with a passable logo. Lmao!
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
It is really hard! Because that image/logo and name represents the body of work so firmly, its also got to stand strong with what it's representing and stand up to other titles too! Basically, i like to think of something that will help generate top results when i search on google for the title, which to me helps it stand on its own on the web, and sound catchy enough for pitches in person! I don't want to steer the convo away too much from the prompt, but there is definitely more to discuss about titles and their chosen aesthetics
varethane
@DanitheCarutor have you read Golden Kamuy? If you love hilariously hideous expressions in manga, it seems like it may be your jam lol
(it's also set in a specific historical period and contains a lot of really interesting material about the time/place it takes place in)
Also I feel like I have never, even one time in my life, come up with a good title for anything-- both Chirault and Wychwood are placeholder titles that I used just to kinda name the story for myself, which I initially intended to change when something better came along, and then nothing ever did
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I know I'm generally drawn into a comic if it's just... generally a visual feast? And it doesn't even have to be a beautiful feast - just... a feast! A super intriguing artstyle, beautiful or not, is something for my brain to pick apart and enjoy. Detailed backgrounds, intricate costumes, fascinating presentation/layout... all the way to crazy expressions and fun asides, and even some gory or scary bits to make me go EEK. Basically, if I'm reading it, and my hand is twitching with the prospect of drawing fan art, then I'm in for good.
DanitheCarutor
@FeatherNotes(Krispy) Urg that is such a nightmare! And there are only so many different styles you can do for a logo, and so many variations of words, it's like how there aren't any truly original stories anymore. I got lucky with the title for my current comic, it's the most generic thing ever, but fits in a tongue-in-cheek way. @varethane I've never heard of it, but the face compilations I'm seeing are intriguing! Man, I love stupid facial expressions.
Capitania do Azar
@varethane golden kamuy, I see you are a fellow of taste as well
varethane
(I love it so much)
Capitania do Azar
@DanitheCarutor oh idk about the "only so many things you can do with logos", I've seen amazing things in this world, if there's a limit I'm not seeing it
varethane
(I can always tell exactly when I was binging it because there's a big chunk of my phone's photo gallery that's all screencaps of Asirpa making dumb faces)
Capitania do Azar
@varethane guys shooting each other in the woods? I'm always in for that
DanitheCarutor
@Capitania do Azar Lol I guess? I can't see how you can have an infinite number of designs for writing, while still trying to keep it vaguely readable. But I really don't like lettering, so my imagination is hardcore lacking in that department.
Capitania do Azar
Lettering and logo design are their own fields of expertise, it's ok
meek
Hmm I'm similar to a lot of previous responses where I can't pinpoint a specific style or trend of art work that draws me in because the styles of comics I read differ incredibly. That being said, there are some things that I do look for to keep me coming back: 1) Consistency of style/anatomy: unless there's a specific reason for the general art style to change (not including semi-deformed or chibi versions of characters), I appreciate characters staying proportionate or just otherwise consistent throughout the comic. And art evolution isn't something that's at odds with consistency, it can actually help that by making characters more distinct and easier to distinguish from each other. 2) Potential for art evolution: Almost the opposite of the previous point lmao but if I find a new comic and I see the latest page is of a much higher skill level than the first page, I'm immediately hooked. I want to see the journey. And I want to see how far that journey goes, even past the point where the art "gets good". There's at least one comic that I can think of where once it hit the style that it wanted to, the art has stayed consistent for the past several years but so much so it's almost plateaued and become stagnant. It's still good art, by all means! But I want to see it grow and evolve more. 3) Good panel/speech layout: Okay it's not quite art in the same sense but someone else mentioned this above and I think it's important too? There are so many comics I can think of that I couldn't read or I dropped off at a point because reading was a chore, either because of giant or unsightly speech bubbles, tiny or ill-fitting font, a combination of the two, etc. Sure, graphic design and layout is a skillset completely different from pure illustration, but it's one worth knowing because otherwise you could do a disservice to your art and your story.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
@meek Seriously, the text is so important to me, and I consider it a large part of page layout and design
meek
Agreed!! It's something that bothers me with printed comics all the time. I've tried to read so many "classic" graphic novels and I just.. I can't get past the giant text boxes with small font with miniscule kerning and ESPECIALLY if they then add color to it. Please, keep in mind your readers with reading difficulties But to turn this into a positive One of my favorite things that also helps make a comic feel more personal is when the creator turns their handwriting into a font or otherwise have FUN with the speech bubbles
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
YES. As someone with bad eyesight, typography is one of my favorite aspects of finishing a comic page.
Deo101 [Millennium]
It also is super important for me with ADHD, reading is hard enough as is! so bubble layout and clarity can really bring the whole thing together and elevate a comic
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
I tried that but got the feedback that my text is hard to read and the way i format my speech bubbles is distracting (: But some people have said they really like it so ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ Though I do think I could have done better with the font. I have good eyesight and bad handwriting do I think i have a much easier time reading weird text than many. Since you guys care so much about text, would you mind taking a quick glance at my comic and telling me how readable it is? It'd be nice getting feedback from random people as opposed to only my readers who felt strongly enough to leave a comment unprompted
meek
Oh man I have this specific panel in mind from some early 2006 Avengers comic of like.. what not to do Basically it was a bright yellow text box with this white/light blue font. It was just. It was a nightmare to read Oh sure!! Definitely send me a link
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Yep! Send me a link too! I'd love to help you out
I also have a good typography book to recommend if you're interested. I can drop it into #art_resources(edited)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Here is link: https://www.webtoons.comen/challenge/puppeteer/list?title_no=290620
Thanks for taking the time to give me critique!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
The link's not working, but I can probably find it on Webtoon
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
And I think i dould find a typography book interesting, so yes please do send the link
Sorry, i think the link is missing a slash
Did we both delete the link
Deo101 [Millennium]
did we both delete a
yah
i got it
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Lol
Deo101 [Millennium]
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/puppeteer/list?title_no=290620
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Thanks
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I found it
(The font is a bit small on mobile, but the font is fine?)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Wait can we move to shop talk?
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
(maybe we can have this discussion on shop talk channel? )
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Sure
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
OH LOL
DanitheCarutor
@Capitania do Azar Oh god, they so are! I envy anyone who enjoys that craft, I'm a lot better than I was, but lettering is still so hard. ;v; At least the fancy stuff is hard, regular speechbubble lettering is easy as long as my hand cooperates.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
There's a book I had to read for a web design course I took, and it is seriously a life saver
It put text in a whole new perspective
DanitheCarutor
I do all my lettering traditionally, but maybe that book would be helpful, I legit hate doing it no matter what medium I use. (sorry for continuing to derail the channel.)
Capitania do Azar
@DanitheCarutor i used a website that converts handwriting to fonts + font forge for tweaks to get personalised fonts
DanitheCarutor
I used to type bubbles out, and I've thought about it for my current comic but I mix up words and letters really bad, and I forget to add words entirely while typing. It wouldn't be so bad if my brain saw the mistakes while rereading everything, although sometimes it takes a couple days or another set of eyes for me to actually see them. When I write the bubbles in with a pen I make a lot less mistakes since it takes more effort to write out each letter, also my brain can keep better track of the ones I do make. I feel like that's an excuse that makes no sense.
Deo101 [Millennium]
no it totally makes sense
snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)
I can't say I'm ever especially drawn in by art? Besides the sense of "it looks like a lighthearted action story and I like lighthearted action stories", not much catches my eye. Though, I will drop a comic if I'm put off by the art. Like I can forgive if some things look janky at the start of the comic, but if that jankiness doesn't improve over time, I'll drop the comic. I'll also drop the comic if the character designs are bad (i.e. indistinguishable from each other, or in rare cases just too gross to look at). But again, I can't exactly say "good character designs draw me into the comic" because a lot of comic banners/thumbnails don't really show off full character designs.
chalcara
Varied bodytypes are catnip for me. And I like comics with expressive characters over comics that limit expressiveness to keep the characters pretty.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Oh, definitely agree with that second part. Comics where it looks like everyone has had a ton of Botox is a huge pet peeve of mine
Like, eyebrows are not the only part of the face that can move.
Do more
renieplayerone
Yeah i agree with the janky art thought. I think it helps me follow through the jank if i see that the later pages, the artist has shown growth, and i dont want to force anyone into a "gotta redraw it" loop if thats not something they want (of course everyone has their reasons and theyre also valid af) Ill tend to be more forgiving about the jank if i know its someones first webcomic or first comic in general, because you cant learn how to make comics without actually sitting down and making the dang thing. So yeah, the jank can be a double edged sword(edited)
What super draws me in is comics with a great sense of color. While i love anything vibrant, if the softer watercolors are done well, they're chefs kiss. Prime example of that is Stand Still Stay Silent
mariah (rainy day dreams)
I've been thinking about this question all week and I think I finally boiled my answer down to something short, sweet, and to the point. It's gotta be some kind of spooky and some kind of cute I have a pretty broad range of art styles I like and I definitely also read stuff that doesn't fall under those categories, but I think my favorite stories or artists are some blend of those two things. I don't really have a preference between color and greyscale. Like I definitely love a good color feast comic, but if you know how to use your grey tones or even just black and white well it's just as good for me. Maybe that's also just me trying to justify being mostly a greyscale artist to myself TuT
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
@mariah (rainy day dreams) devils candy would def be up your alley then!
mariah (rainy day dreams)
Devil's candy v good
renieplayerone
Devils Candy is amazing
mariah (rainy day dreams)
I love to combination of cute monsters and action also.
DanitheCarutor
@renieplayerone I'm not sure if it fits totally with your preference, but if you're looking for watercolor Lost Honey is gorgeous! https://www.losthoney.com/
mariah (rainy day dreams)
Lost Honey is another great comic great to look at, really interesting world
DanitheCarutor
It's one of my faves! ;v; There is another comic that was half watercolor half digital that I used to love reading (if I remember right pages set in the current time were digital, and backstory stuff was in watercolor.), but it has been discontinued for years now. It was called Toilet Genie/D00R, a comic about a genie who was locked in a public toilet and was awakened by a pug that got thrown out by her owners. It was so pretty, with such an interesting style!
mariah (rainy day dreams)
Oh wow I haven't thought about that comic in 5 years! X'D I didn't read much of it, because I don't think there was much of it available at the time, but yeah, that one was also very pretty (edited)
renieplayerone
Oh those colors are really pretty!!
DanitheCarutor
Right? Lost Honey is total eye candy. @mariah (rainy day dreams) Yeah, it's sad the creator never got to finish it. I think about it every so often since it's one of the extremely rare (semi)watercolor webcomics out there.
Also I'm extra attached to traditional mediums since I work in a traditional medium myself.
mariah (rainy day dreams)
Same. Got that ink wash/watercolor bias.
Eilidh (Lady Changeling)
My current comic is marker shaded but I so want to do something with ink wash after this one...
DanitheCarutor
Yeah, right now I'm working with color pencils since they're cheap but I want to give gouache or acrylic a try for my next project, depending on which story I do.
Kabocha
Hm, the question is... a lil' challenging to answer. I think in a lot of cases, the art isn't necessarily what gets me, but when it does -- Sometimes it's when someone uses a resource I like/made and I can go "OOOH! I know that thing you used!" Screentones are another one that gets my attention pretty quick. Sparkles... And probably effective spot color use. As much as I enjoy many full color webcomics, there are many that get tiring to try to read for one reason or another (usually it's either a font or a saturation issue - too many similarly saturated colors near one another gets tiring to read). Also, soft coloring. Oooh, just... when the art feels like it ought to be printed on those soft-touch covers... Yeah, that gets my attention. ...and watercolor/inkwash, too. ... okay that's a lot of things that grab my attention, but tl;dr: oh hey look at all that cool stuff that people can do!
mariah (rainy day dreams)
That was part of what was so hard for me thinking about this question cuz really, a lot of things get my attention X') and the more I thought about it the more I was like "I like when a comic is like X, but oh also Y is great and I do really enjoy Z as well!" I just ... like so many things. But I think that's better than being really picky. I've meet some folks that are super picky about art and basically only like one style and I'm just like... you're missing out on so many amazing things!
Kabocha
Right? And heck, even in some comics where the style would normally be unappealing (to me), there's just something about the art and the aesthetic that clicks to make it all work together for that project.(edited)
I do think, though, that there's always going to be a special place in my heart for greyscale or screentoned comics. There's just something about art that knows how to effectively make use of shading and contrast to make their work... well, work for me.
kayotics
Art is probably the first thing that draws me in to read a comic. The top, top tier thing that gets me to pay attention to a comic is really strong inks. I love inking, and unusual inking styles. To those who know me, that's probably incredibly unsurprising. I also love really angular styles. Some other stuff I gravitate towards: cartoony styles, expressive faces, and kind of ugly characters. I enjoy seeing characters that might be described as plain or are drawn in a bit of an ugly way. The last thing that draws me in? Hands. If an art style pays attention to hands, then I'm all for it.
mariah (rainy day dreams)
Does a comic have characters with big, crooked, toothy grins? I'm down for the count X'D https://media.tenor.com/images/618576ebcc4f6d2a12438624be77c54f/tenor.gif
varethane
oh hey, did someone mention webcomics done in ink wash/marker?
Chirault was that!
1367 pages of..... ink with greyscale marker..........
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
honestly blows me away that you toned it traditionally like, all of GJS is inked trad, but to ink AND tone in marker is just.....damn
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I love ugly characters
RebelVampire
When it comes to art, I'd say there are about four factors that will draw me in. First, readability. Can I visually follow wtf is going on in the comic? I have no interest in the visuals if I can't understand what action characters are taking. So the first point is always for if that is true. Second, character distinguishability. Can I tell one character from another? I am notoriously bad even in real life at being able to tell people apart, so when reading for fun, it's super important to me that I don't have to put a lot of effort into telling characters apart (exceptions for identical twins, of course). Third, personal appeal. Do I think the art is pretty or cute? Like, obviously this is subjective so I can't really put into words why I'd find one style appealing and the other not. But ya know, I like stuff I think is pretty to look at. Fourth, backgrounds. If a creator puts a lot of effort into their background scenery, I'm very sold on it. I love beautiful backgrounds, and the effort put into them give me an overall better impression of the comic as a whole. Since it takes some real passion to take care with backgrounds. All this being said, I'm not much of a stickler for art. If a comic is well-written enough, they can fail all these points and I'll still read it. This is just a list of what aspects have to be in the art for it to draw me in.
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
My points are pretty much the same as Rebel's, with the addition of a few things: I adore comics with dramatic facial expressions and consistently excellent anatomy. Also, if the art style is unique? If I feel like I've never seen someone draw that way before? That's ++. So good. I've read comics where I thought the art was good but the story was mediocre, but I've never read a comic where the art met all my points (and Rebel's), where it made me go, "holy fuck," audibly, and then had the story disappoint. Comics where the art made me go "holy fuck" audibly: Excecutioner's Academy: The art is so pointy and colorful and detailed and weird. It's full of personality and life and so are the characters. Warning: hiatus comic ): https://tapas.io/series/Ex-Ac Ava's Demon: You guys know about Ava's Demon, right? With original music and animations ending every chapter, this might be the most effortful comic I've ever seen. https://www.avasdemon.com/pages.php#2611 Sfeer Theory: Everyone looks so different from each other, it's fantastic. Some characters are not conventionally beautiful, yet they're still so appealing. And backgrounds! And a thought-out and unique magic system! https://sfeertheory.com/comic/01-00/ Electric Bones: Backgrounds! Banter! http://electricbonescomic.com/index.php/comic/page-001/ I also loved Prague Race, but unfortunately it was cancelled ):
If anyone else has recommendations for comics with amazing art, I'd love to hear them!
Capān Lee (Flowerlark Studios)
For me, it just has to be an art style I like to attract my attention. I generally like realistic art, stylised art, or pretty much any style that hasnāt been done to death (like generic anime art; much as I love manga, Iām really tired of the over-saturation of bland and soulless anime-inspired art). Pretty much anything unique and well executed will grab my attention. I especially like greyscale and limited palettes.(edited)
And just to clarify, I do like anime-style art when it has expression and/or skill behind it; just not when it looks generic and manufactured. Overall, though, itās the writing thatās ultimately the most important thing to me in a comic, so Iāll enjoy comics for their writing even if Iām not a fan of the art.
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A kpop newbieās reaction to LOONA
you know i had to do it toĀ āem
Alexa: bold
Alex: italic
okay so today you're reacting to Loona!
o, noice
they just debuted like two days ago and everyone is crying
damn. ok but do any of them speak english <<
y es
n Ā u Ā t
i believe i already told you, they built this Loonaverse, and released a girl each month
yeh, you told me a few things
right. all of them have an animal and a color. the first five girls have an additional location, then the next three girls have a superpower, and the last four girls have a fruit
...alexa. t-twelve
yeah
<-<
>->
alright fam hit me up
okay, the first girl that was released, back in 2016, is heejin
damn she looks like a disney princess
she does;;

this is aN INSULT
isnT IT
someone arrest her, she's not allowed to be so cute. it is illegal.
how old is she and what does she do
uhh she's 21and she's a singer
she iS BORN IN 2000
... ALEXA WE'RE MOVING TO KOREA PACK YOUR SHIT
ill give you her music video now
alright
the location is hard to guess, so just try to guess her color and animal
hmm
*ViViD*
i'm not watching this u freak, you know about my arachnophobia
y tho. there are no spiders
THERE IS ONE IN THE THUMBNAIL, BIG AND RED
there are no spiders, so play the song, its good. no girl has the spider as her animal u coward
the song's aight. i'd listen to it in a cafe.Ā her animal is obviously a bunny and her color is either red or white. asian girls with thick thighs are too powerful alexa. someone needs to do something about them. it's a health hazard.
omf. her color is actually hot pink;; but u got her animal right lol
o damn. well pink is the mix between red and white isn't it >>
ooOOO
pFFF
she's part of the first subunit, 1/3
ah, so she's a colonel
omG. i mean, y'know, subunits are some of the members that form like a band of their own and put out music
with 12 bloody members, i can imagine
loona has three. anyway, a few things about heejin
hit me

sheās a whole cutie
o gee i couldn't notice
sdfdsdf she likes dad jokes and randomly breaks into silly and awkward dances but she doesn't care.Ā she's also afraid of pigeonsĀ
the guards would have to restrain me from pinching her cheeks if i was ever in the same room with her. and to be fair those things are chaotic evil. one literally flew into my face once.
omf
they also carry diseases similarly to rats. except they fly. so yeah, i can see why one would be afraid.
she also named a rabbit from the set "heekki". hee from her name, and kki from the korean word for rabbit, tokki. and proceeded to ask if she could adopt it.
that's adorable go away i am stone cold
is there anything else u want to know about her. her location is paris, and the first ever video of her beside her mv was her repeating random french phrases she knew in the airport
pfffF.
the next member is hyunjin

theyāre all so pretty i cry
they are :(
they are like porcelain dolls, but without the creepiness of a doll, just the beauty and cuteness
i KNOW. so, how old is she
hmm 20 and she's a rapper
she is ALSO born in 2000 ;D and she's a singer
i-
here's her music video
after mark's video on that cat game, the thumbnail horrifies me
o-oh
alight so her animal is a kitteh. so she's the neko of the group, noice... is this a thriller film, geez.
ghjkjhghjk its just a kitten smh
an e v i l kitten
cats cant be evil. her song is very kdrama-ish
her color is... i honestly have no idea
her color appears in the first third of the video
green? blue?
she wears it
lemon
yeh, yellow. and yes her animal is cat lol. what about the song? itās a drastic change from the last one
ok that last part horrified me.Ā idk it's a weird mix between depression and a drug trip

so, about this baby. her location is tokyo, and she is the savage one
o-oh
shes the one that kept a blank face on a rollercoaster while the others were screaming. also, she really likes bread and croissants
and she's not a rapper smh. well, she does have a pretty voice.
she does~ and shes really sporty, practiced a lot of sports before becoming an idol
alright, off to my wife. this is haseul.

and no photo makes her justice
i-

UGH queen
that jawline fam

iām sorry i just. literally have never seen such a beautiful woman
alright by now i'm about 70% convinced that these people are created in underground governmental labs
m e. aight, how old is she
fucc it, she's uhh 18
she's actually born in 1997 dfgfdsdfgh
OF COURSE. sigh. that's just my luck
but i understand u
they all look between 15 and 20 anyway does it really matter-Ā i-Ā she's more pretty than she is cute. respecc.
this is her music video
her color is bleagh. i mean bleuugh. blue
omf
she's a parappa the rapper.Ā but she's also a singer. idk her voice sounds like she can rap. was that plane just there and they used it or did they buy a gigantic plane prop for the video
(i really hoped alex would say this because this video exists)
i-
sheāS TRYING.Ā her color is green but her location is iceland so liek,,, i guess the writers clashed ideas
blasphemy. they should have went for turquoise
her animal is a dove. sheās also the leader of the group, and the mom friend #1. she can speak english but she has a cute accent which i Love
awh
aaaand sheās a seal enthusiast
o. that's something
they went to iceland so she was like "omg a seal!!! hi !! that was a seal!!"
pffa whole cutie
she is :( sheās also really funny
anyway, the next one makes me feel worthless. this is yeojin
another flawless creation of the secret korean labs

her age?
that tissue-printing chamber in that korean lab from avengers 2? not fiction - they use it to create idols. uhh 19
:D she is 15!!!1
...
and turns 16 in november !!
Goodbye.Ā Tty later, i gotta pack my stuff
dfgfdGHJH here is her song. its very cute because, well, shes a child
L O L I C O N Ā Ā A L E R T. those three dudes are terrifying. is that the joker wearing a frog head
mmmmaybeh
this is weird lmfao.Ā aaand there's the foot fetish
youāRE HORRIBLE
why is the frog dude going all roaring reeo on her only to give her a fucking present
well, its a song about how she doesnāt want the relationship to move too fast, so she doesnāt want to kiss the dude just yet
that ending was just... idk man. this one broke me. her color is red, and her animal is a frog because that's the only animal in the foreground here idfk
her color is orange, close enough.Ā the other members call her "bean" because shes the youngest and rlly smol and chubby.
awh ;;
and everyone treats her like a baby lmao
well, what did u expect. hmm i think i like the first one the best so far
o, alright
so, these past four girls and the fifth one form the subunit 1/3. the fifth one was introduced through the subunit's first song, but i'll give u their second song cuz its Better
*check outĀ āSonatine itās superior*
basically, these girls have a very dreamy concept with a lot of piano and strings. the fifth girl is the pink haired one, and baby yeojin isnāt here cuz her grades were dropping lmao
i-
shhhh just listen to the song
this song gives me the sad
u gotta appreciate the animu songs
i do, i was literally gonna say that this one somewhat reminds me of miia's second song
same !!
her color is W H I T E like my teeth. p u r eĀ w h i t e
she haS HER OWN mv
o
the fifth member is vivi
shes chinese and the oldest
from communism to idolization. noice
i-
so she's wot, 21? 22?
yeh, shes turning 22 this year
noice
hereās her song
a break from the animu songs. ps: they dont come back
sad. kinda stalkerish fam
ikr. shes a hooman here. but in the subunit mvs sheās an android
what
idk fam they go all out and no one knows whats happening
i am gonna get bashed for this but when she smiles her cheeks look kinda weird she kinda looks like a chipmunk? but not in a bad way
ghjkHJ she does;; shes cute though
yeah
her color is her haircolor lawl. pastel rose
o, nice
and her animal is deer
so she's basically bambi gotcha
she speaks english, and shes the reaction memes queen. and shes also very smol
awh ;;
alright, we're done with 1/3. is heejin still your favourite?
yepp
cuz we're entering girl crush land
o h
the sixth member is kim lip

LISTEN YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS
sheās cute tho

of course she is. they're all cute perfect goddesses. i'm noticing a pATTERN HERE
hey, shes mostly a tsundere
well, ngl, she looks like one
sdfgfds
she chose charmander tho 10/10
hereās her amazing mv.Ā her animal appears for 1 second here so lmao good luck. her color is very obvious
white, at long last
the other one
FUCK
SDFGFDSD
red?
yes
that building is aesthetic would hang out there with my weird friends 10/10. the song is odd, but it's nice
i think the song really suits her voice
it does! that's why it works
her animal is an owl
n o i c e
also in one of her vlogs all she does is talk about food. she also keeps the members company while theyre shooting their mvs!! and shes also a reaction meme queen. she sings, but her main strength is dancing
yeah, i can tell
oh right !! she is in the odd eye circle subunit, and these girls have super powers.Ā imma tell you now, the odd eye circle members are in different planes. like, theyre in different dimensions, not the flying planes lol
umm alright..?
anyway, her super power is speed. aaaand i think thats it with kim lip
the next one is a fan favourite. jinsoul
oof.Ā idk man the blond is weird
oh, is it. i dunno, i feel like it suits her.
hammers in that "created in an underground lab to be flawless" vibe. idk, maybe a darker shade? like a golden blonde?
most people choose her song as their favourite
singing in the rain? is tom holland gonna come in and dance to "umbrella"?
oh my god
if not i'll be disappointed. the song reminds me of minecraft intros lmao. especially that synth part
geT OUT LMAO
the dancing is lewd af tho. so 8/10
well, so was eclipse. girl crush land
is she a necromancer? because those hips kill me and bring me back to life
i knOW. sheĀ can sing, rap and dance. triple threat. okay you cant possibly be wrong about her color and animal
uhh blue and fish. idk wot fish but a fish
y e s.Ā its a blue betta fish. she said, and i quote "the blue betta fish is one that needs to be kept alone, because it eats the other fish in her tank. so i'm going to take over the group like that"
i- IS THE ENTIRE SECOND SUBUNIT SASSY
SDFGHGFDSSDFGH shes very oblivious and confused also idk if i should show you this but its hella funny and falls into the dumb blonde stereotype. she acts cute in a live stream and then she just
*that beautiful face plant video*
and at the enD KIM LIP IS LIKE "yes. whats next?" and looks through the comments
i-is she ok
yeah, she just stays there like ten seconds and then lifts her head while laughing. her superpower is teleportation btw. anyway, shes just very oblivious and awkward
nice man
the next member is choerry

oof, she qt. her color is purple.
yes. she doesnt like cherries btw
of course. why doesn't she like them? they're gud ;; maybe they remind her of all the bad puns she must have had to endure
i- most likely tbh. she prefers her actual name too sdfgfdsasdf.Ā but choerry is a play on her name. cho yerim.
ah, i see
here's her song that takes a very weird turn and supports further the girl crush concept lawl
i expect lewd dancing. wotās her animal?
a bat
e d g y.Ā they made her eat a cherry. the monsters
i know, the madmen
o, here comes the lewd dancing. oof, that was short, but it was cool. back to... this??
it happens more than once. hmm, its a really nice song tbh
yeah, it was pretty nice
shes the bright, positive one

and managed to feed a squirrel out of her hand, so shes a princess confirmed
o damn how tall is she.Ā she looks pretty tall in this pic
oh my god all of them are so small i literally cannot cope
;-; pure babies
hmm i think this is old information but the tallest is 165 sdfsGHJKJHJ
o damn
it says here shes 160. p u r e. her super power is plane travelling, like, shes the only one who can meet both kim lip and jinsoul. thats why i told you about the dimension thing
..alright..? this seems pretty redundant, idk. the whole superpower thing and the different planes thing is just odd. what purpose do they serve
well, its basically a whole universe, i guess it ties to the whole story
there's a story? uhh
yeah, but we won't get into that too much. here's odd eye circle's debut song
oh, this song is... something. i could live without the weird distorted voice. fucc yes more lewd dancing.Ā well, that was trippy.
anyway, the third subunit is called yyxy, and it has "fall from eden" as their concept
o
the first member from this subunit is yves, pronounced as eve but it gotta be fancy y'know

oo, noice. please for the love of god tell me her color is white
no one's color is white
well, itās not a color ;D
ug h. anyway, hereās her song.
hecc yes more lewd dancing
omf
the song is.. odd. GET OUTTA HERE HER COLOR IS TOTALLY WHITE. EVERYTHING HERE I WHITE. SHE WEARS ALL WHITE.
:( her apple is burgundy
what. is that- is that her color
yeah
...i quit.
fgfdghjkghjGHJ
well, that was something
her name is eve, so people speculate the song and mv are about her living a normal life after falling from eden y'know. anyway, shes the mom friend #2
o, interesting pFF
she was very awkward at the beginning, when she first was introduced
awh ;;
and her animal is a swan
AND HER COLOR ISN'T WHITE GET OUTTA HERE
fgfdsdfg shes also pretty savage now that she isnt as shy, but she takes care of the members, since shes one of the older membersGHJKJHGHJK
wholesome
shes very cute i like her uwu
the next one is an actual animu waifu. her name is chuu

i-
and she is the full of cuteness member
yeah i can teLL. the second image scraped my stone heart
yes, she softens everyone. hereās her mv, and the other girl is yves.Ā and chuu is more or less in love with her. lesbian icon
alexa ur doing the thing, but reverse
SHES LITERALLY STALKING YVES AND GIVING HER AN APPLE AND THE SONG IS ABOUT ROMANTIC LOVE get outta here
ALL OF THESE BANDS ARE BASICALLY FAMILIES YALL SHIPPING THEM IS INCEST
ASDFGFDSDFGHJ but yves just shot a heart at her
it's a music video smh
hey, im not saying shes gay for yves in real life, just in, like, the universe theyre building
ah, i see.Ā the choreography is gud.Ā and the whole music video is nice. and the song is nice too. alright, what's her color
peach
do these people only know red and blue variations. THERE ARE OTHER COLORS OUT THERE
her animal is penguin, hence her posing with a penguin plushie in that photo
awh ;;
and her fruit is strawberry. she also sang a kids show ost before she became an idol :( and the other members make her act cute sometimes in front of the camera because everyone loves her. take dis
:'c
when she does the winking thing she stops and asks "why am i doing this..." and the others are just "because its cutE"
s-STONE COLD I AM S T O N E C O L D
anyway, yes, we all love chuu
we have two members left, keep your head in the game
i'm in it to win it
the second to last member is go won

speaking of winning, apparently she already did
she is a real life doll- oh my god alex
yet another qt what is new. cute dolls. cute talented dolls e v e r y w h e r e
i remember her song just because of the way she sings "baby" there
o
*check outĀ āOne&Onlyā yall*
ah, i see. some nice cinematography here. she has an interesting voice
shes mostly a rapper
yeah, i can picture that. that was a pretty nice song
her color is eden green :3
n o i c e
her animal is butterfly and her fruit is pineapple
but does she like it on pizza tho >> that is the question
she's kinda cold, but shes pretty oblivious, the staff messed with her saying that "adam" is her stage name (adam translates to "small" in korean) and she actually believed them and she didnt get the joke either affdsdfg
;-; god bless
shes pretty savage tho, we have three so far
oof
she is olivia hye

and she does not appreciate olive jokes
she's pretty 0^0
she is~
wot's her personality
shes very blunt and she seems like someone that might succeed at being a famous blogger
o damn
she always speaks her mind. i havenāt really seen her play around, but that doesnāt mean i donāt find her funny sdfgfsdfg
pff the mom friend
hmm, she doesnt really take care of the others, shes the second youngest
o rlly
but she does boast about how shes the only one without a fear of heights jasdfjks
pfff alright, hmu with her song
her song is my favourite
*āEgoistā ftw*
s m o o t h. yeah, this is a nice song
ikr !!
aaand more lewd dancing the world is kind to me today
they never give it up
wot's her color and animal
her color is gray, her animal is wolf and her fruit is plum
o damn
hereās their song~
this is hype af. this song is nice too but it has odd parts
i feel like the quality of their music increased with time.Ā the first songs are also nice but you can tell these ones are better put together
well, it makes sense
it has been two years yes asdfdsdfg
o o f
here's a predebut song. the first ever with all of them, but not their debut the intro and the chorus are the best parts ngl
that's a lot of idols fam
eh, 12 isnt that rare. BRRRRRRRRRAH
where the esketit at.Ā that was a pretty good predebut song, all things considered. they fit a bit of everything in there
yep, hereās their debut song
this one's trippy. ah, that's why it's called "hi high" they're saying hi to me, and i'm high after watching it.Ā UOUOUOUAAAHH
I ONLY LISTEN TO MUSIC WITH MEANINGFUL LYRICS
HLBJLNKBJLNKBKLN
do you remember any of them as your favourite or did everything already vanish
i like chuu and the last one but i think the first is still my fave
oo alright, i see. any last thoughts?
well-managed for a 12 idol group, nice choreographies (& lots of lewd dancing >>), plenty of good songs, gud stuff overall, 10/10. 11/10 for the UOUOUOUOOAAAHHH
noicE
alexa here!! oof, this took so long to put together;; also if haseul sees this please marry me goddess ily
i hope you enjoy this post, even though its a little messy!! pop a little message in our ask box too, itāll make our day~ i hope everyone has a nice day or evening!!
#loona#heejin#hyunjin#haseul#yeojin#vivi#kim lip#jinsoul#choerry#yves#chuu#go won#olivia hye#1/3#odd eye circle#yyxy#loona reaction#reaction wednesday#loona introduction#loona 1/3#loona odd eye circle#loona yyxy#loona heejin#loona hyunjin#loona haseul#loona yeojin#loona vivi#loona kim lip#loona jinsoul#loona choerry
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AKB48 Thumbnail 2shot event 170604
At the start of June I went to Japan to participate in the 2shot events for AKBās latest album Thumbnail. Hereās a little write up. If you want to hear about anything else I did (hint: it was all shopping) lmk and maybe Iāll write that up too.
Because I know I cannot get up in the mornings, I started my tickets from Block 2. I had 3 tickets for Sato Sumire, 3 for Muto Tomu, then 1 each for Kojima Mako, Goto Moe, Minegishi Minami, Okada Nana, Miyazaki Miho, Oya Shizuka, as well as 2 album signing tickets, that I planned to use with Tomu & Suu.
I am about to go into fangirl mode here.
Unlike HS, during 2shot you donāt get much time to talk, and for me every member spent that time calling me cute (lies) and my hair amazing (truth). (hidden myself in most of these pics cause iām not cute and dont photo well lol especially next to idols)
Started the day with Kojimako~~ Had Mako and Tomu in 2nd block but I wanted a practice run before Tomu. She is so damn cute! Basically exactly what I was expecting (in a good way); super cute, cheerful, smiley and lovely. A fairly orthodox meeting.

Next was Tomu, the member competing with Suu for my oshimen spot lol. I know I wrote a post before about officially oshihenning to Tomu, but honestly the two are really neck-and-neck...
Compared to Kojimako, Tomu felt a little more... interested? Like asking me more questions and seeming to listen more to the answers, etc. Iām very shy and bad at speaking, so if the member starts the conversation going I am very grateful, and Tomu absolutely did.

I had Block 3 free (why?? did i do that??) and I headed out to the Cafe & Shop. Bought an AKB drink, which of course comes with a coaster, which of course attracts coaster collector/traders. The guy brave enough to approach me turned out to be a fellow Tomu oshi, and we spent 45~ mins discussing members/AKB in general/my plans in Japan etc. I was almost late for block 4 lol.
Block 4 and back to Tomu! In the queue, another fan came up to me, asking where I was from etc. The only people willing to come up and speak to me were Tomu fans lol. Tomu fans so nice and willing to speak English. Tomu did the whole āYouāre back!ā, āYes, and I have more tickets!ā. Then of course my favourite Team K pose.

Then it was Moekyun! In my head Moe is still the baby draftie of Team K, but she is actually 16 and almost as tall as I am. If Tomu was impressed that I came for the UK, Moe was astounded lol.

Block 5, and back to Tomu again! This time wearing the Tomu shirt from last year, which she was pretty pleased with. 3rd time and I was finally able to tell Tomu she was my oshi. (whyyyy am i so shy why).

I had tickets for Miichan, but I went over to album signing instead, since getting my album signed by Suu was more important that meeting Mii. (sorry Miichan)
My Suu tickets were all for later so this was my first Suu meeting. It was basically a discussion about my hair again lol. (āIs it real? Is it dyed?ā) lolol And so her signing message was āMegan-chan kawaiiā lolol

Then off to Miichan. Her queue was short but sooo slow moving, which is weird because it didnāt feel like people were getting really long meetings. Also, her queue was fuuuull of girls. About 60-80% female, far, far higher than anyone else. And they were all looping as well. Mii was... very cool and professional? Not bad or salty, but she kind of felt like she was going through the motions, quickly in, photo, out.

Block 6 was double Suu. Finally a chance to meet her. She was pretty surprised to see me again I think. But super happy. Out of everyone I met, Suu was the best. She felt the most genuine and the most interested. I felt like I could have another 20 tickets and still have fun with her. HOWEVER her staff were super fast. Not necessarily trying to push me out, but very efficient, Iād barely sat down before they were asking for a pose. I was using 2 tickets but still had basically the same length meeting. Should have looped!


Block 9 was also Tomu sign! So Iād been meeting Tomu at regular intervals over 6 hours, so it felt like I met her a lot. Compared to, say, using 4 tickets together in one block, I got more time with Tomu this was. I wonder if she would feel the same?

Block 7 and I pre-queued for Nacchan, since her line was super long. Nacchan felt the most kami. After meeting her, I completely understand her popularity and senbatsu rank. Her reaction to seeing me was āAngel! Angel!ā in English, which was the only time any of the members spoke English to me other than āthank youā and ābye byeā.Ā unfortunately the 2shot itself is pretty bad D:

Then 4th ticket with Suu. She was amazed I was back, then after greetings, peace sign pose, I was standing up to leave and she says something like āThank you for coming. Everyone thinks youāre really pretty!ā And whilst Iām digesting if the members are talking about me backstage?? (sempai noticed me??) sheās like, āCan I?ā and reaches out to stroke my hair/head. Then squeals/laughs as though I am a small animal (lol) and the staff usher me out. But like... You are not supposed to touch the idols at all unless you are doing heart pose... And yet I got a head pat??

I basically died on the spot. #1 2shot #1 meeting #1 girl, sorry Tomu, I regret oshihen-ing etc. Literally made the whole trip worth it. Did the members notice me?! Is Suu talking about me with others??
tl;dr if you are meeting idols dye ur hair & be fashionable i guess
Final block and I had tickets for Myao and Shiichan. I fucked up my Myao meeting by being super tired and not being able to understand the super fast & long JP Myao spoke to me. Really feel bad about that because notās not Myaoās fault that Iām incompetent, and I feel like it dissappointed her, or maybe pissed her off. Not really how I wanted my first meeting with Myao that Iāve been a fan of for so long to go. Myao is way good at posing and this is possibly the best 2shot of the day tho. (not of me, obviously, i look like a shaved baboon as usual)

I ended up using my Shiichan ticket to go see Tano Yuka instead. idek why. For me there are Suu & Tomu tier 1, then Moe, Kojimako, Naachan tier 2, then like... everyone else. And so I just has a sudden urge to meet Tanochan.
She was kind of... intimidating. I come in and sheās like āWah, sugoi.ā Then she gives me this really intense look up and down like sheās inspecting me. I felt like I was in high school talking to popular girls lol like wow Iām being judged here. Tano is super pretty in real life. Iām looking at this 2shot like, thatās not even what she looked like! The camera canāt capture her ~glow~!

So basically 10/10 day, do recommend. I received 0 salt all day, even though quite a few members I saw (Suu, Mako, Myao, Tano) have a rep for being salty if tired or you speak to them wrong, I had no such interaction. Definitely going to try and go back next year, if money allows it. Go see Suu etc.
#akb48#muto tomu#sato sumire#kojima mako#okada nana#goto moe#tano yuka#miyazaki miho#minegishi minami
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important note abt art usage
ok so i've been meaning to say and type this out for a while (im probably preaching to the choir since if you're reading this you're probably a really nice person that credits art and stuff and none of the bad stuff might apply to you at all!!) i think everyone is at least mildly aware of the art community artists create art for themselves, other's appreciation, for fun whatever and that's great theres also a content creator side on youtube that goes along well with the art side, as art can be used for thumbnails however there's sometimes issues that pop up with art crediting and maybe some other issues in other parts of the community for content creators on yt and other places specifically:
1. please credit the artists for their works. like even if you use a tiny chunk of their art or something it's still their art that you're using like, mention their name and link their twitter, their tumblr, anything it's just courtesy!! 2. please at least ask them if it's ok to use it like i know it might be annoying to have to wait for a response but it definitely causes a lot less um bad blood i think? if you at least give them a heads up sometimes certain art pieces cannot be used freely because they're created for someone/something specific and the free usage stuff doesn't extend to random people's thumbnails and all sometimes this one doesnt apply as much because some artists are lax with their art being used for things but it's always to play it safe and ask them beforehand also regarding art in the community in general that i've seen:
1. reposting - ok this one has been a pretty big issue for a while and specifically on steam, but please ask an artist before reposting their art somewhere like maybe its ok if its on discord or something and you're like "wow check out this cool art i found by so and so" but on steam theres kind of a little tick mark you have to check to verify you created the art you're posting?? like uhh no you didn't make it some artists are mostly ok with it as long as you credit ask them beforehand if it's ok that's also just a courtesy thing 2. using as headers/profile pics/whatever - i doubt this one is as big of an issue because you aren't exactly claiming it or whatever and its overall pretty harmless like it's cool if you credit the artist on your profile (that'd be encouraged) but i'm mostly ok with my art being used for stuff like that 3. editing artwork - it really depends on how one edits the work i think like if you just edit it mildly to emphasize contrast or edit in some effects thats probably fine if you credit the artist if you edit a sfw art into nsfw tho that's kinda not really that ok but if you ask it should be fine? idk this one hasn't really been that big of an issue art theft
1. reposting without credit - unintentional or not and malicious or not, this is the point where it becomes theft. if you post on deviantart or on steam without credit, you are taking away attention from the artist. especially if the artist is someone like me who likes to leave their signature off their work (i dont mind my art being used as a profile pic and leaving my sig off makes it nicer for the harmless people who just use it for personal stuff, but some artists do not share this view) some signatures link back to an artist's website or social media but some do not and even if the signature is visible, it may or may not be impossible to find the original piece without some extra steps that most people won't bother taking. in the end reposting even WITH credit can hurt an artist 2. claiming art as your own/erasing signatures/using for personal financial gain - absolutely not and never ok some people argue that because an artist doesn't sign their art it deserves to be stolen or whatever but that's??? just no this not only hurts the artist but is actually pretty scummy to do in general just please never do this like why would you ever in general stuff to keep in mind
1. art requests - some artists take these and that's fine but if they're offering commissions (aka you pay the artist to draw something) they're probably not taking requests unless they're feeling up to it its kinda rude to message an artist for a request if you've never even interacted with them in your life ask them if they take commissions (please have money on hand and able to be used eg. paypal and inquire what payment options work for them because stuff like paysafecards might not work in the us etc.) before trying to request anything AND if they're taking you up on a request, please have patience and don't badger the artist for it since they're doing it at their time and their expense and it's not costing you a penny 2. art commissioning - please dont try to haggle with an artist's prices they have their rates and usually they're underpricing themselves haggling is very rude in general and double whammy if someone says stuff like "this should only take like an hour so i'll pay you insert minimum wage here" also please tell the artist if you dont want your commissioned work posted publically because that can clear up miscommunication and stuff also please pay for your commissions. please. they know if you're short a dollar or five if you don't pay the full thing immediately and promise to pay the remaining later if the artist has a policy where they ask for money after, please pay them for their work if you don't, you're basically scamming them. for most artists, they will be willing to make edits to the work if you're unhappy and some will make edits until the client is fully pleased with the piece and some will even redraw it, but to not pay them at all because you're unhappy with the piece is incredibly disrespectful and you're essentially scamming them 3. tracing work/redrawing - if it closely resembles their work uhhh sometimes it's ok if for practice but make sure to credit the work of the artist that you're looking off of - - - - the important tl;dr from all of this is that if you're ever in doubt PLEASE ASK THE ARTIST AND CREDIT THEM FOR THEIR WORK artists love people appreciating our art but there is a right and wrong way to do it! cheers!!
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