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revolu · 2 days
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I'm dropping (a bit old) john laurens yap here. Please correct anything you must + provide the source.
and we know very limited about John but whatever !!
Laurens was described by Hamilton to have honey blonde hair when clean. His hair was generally said to be light brown/blonde. As seen on portraits, he had soft features, blue eyes, and a big nose. He was described to be very handsome, and IMO I agree!! We don't know exactly how tall he was, but he was most likely over 6 feet. One day before Laurens' 15th birthday, his father wrote to James Grant; ''my Little Jack, now as big as I am...'' (Jack being John's nickname). We don't know Henry Laurens' height, but if he was as tall as Henry at 15, he certainly grew to be taller. In 1778, Henry wrote to John ''A Taylor has cut off as much of your Scarlet as will make he says a Wascoat for 6 feet 3 inches...'' which suggests that John could have been 6'3. It's not clear what exactly Henry means in the letter but as said, John was probably over 6 feet. Laurens was one of the strongest abolitionists of the time despite coming from one of the bigger slave plantations and growing up where slavery was normal. John could speak English, French, Italian, Greek, Spanish and Latin. We know that he was fluent in English and French but we don't know about his fluency in the other languages.
Laurens got Martha Manning pregnant and ended up marrying her out of pity (supposedly to protect her reputation too and to keep illegitimacy of their child.) He wrote to his uncle ''...Pity has obliged me to marry...'', When Laurens left for war, he left his pregnant wife in another country. When John was chosen by congress to be a special minister to France and had him travel there, Martha traveled with their daughter to reconnect with him upon hearing about his arrival in France. But John supposedly made no effort whatsoever to visit them; he completed his mission and went back to America. Martha later died during the trip and their daughter, Frances, was sent to live with her aunt.
John Laurens is believed to have been gay... The man didn't seem to express any attraction towards women, though I think his sexist beliefs played a role in this, as well as his lack of effort to humble his wife. His letters to Alexander Hamilton, and Francis Kinloch also suggest he had an eye for men... ESPECIALLY Kinloch's and his correspondence.
Henry Laurens wrote ''Master Jack is too closely wedded to his studies to think about any of the Miss Nanny's''. But it's important to note that he was a teenager at that time and not every teen develops those feelings at the same time. But I would imagine that since he was as tall as his father at 15, he was early in puberty... Romantic/sexual feelings usually come with puberty, but what do we know? Anyways. John expressed a lot of sexist opinions, even towards his own sisters, which can be read in letters. Most men were sexist, but John seemed to be more ''strict'' on the subject... This definitely plays a part in his supposed ''homosexuality''.
John hid the fact that he had a wife and child from Hamilton for nearly two years. Why? The reason is unknown. It's only up to debate. My guess is that he just wanted to try to ''forget'' them in some way, seeing as he literally left them... Why would you bring up that you have a family that you abandoned? But maybe it was because he never found the right time to tell him, or was it to get a better chance with Hamilton? We will never know, sadly. But what we DO know, is that Laurens referred to his wife as ''dear girl'', and Hamilton, and supposedly ONLY Hamilton, as ''Dear boy''. We know for a fact that Hamilton was close to Laurens and was special to him, but why did he call his wife that? Out of pity? He didn't necessarily show any real attraction towards her... But whatever the reason is, it's kinda cute.
We know that Henry Laurens was emotionally manipulative of John, which is like read in letters... So there is no denying that, really. BUT John was close to his father, attachment issues tsk, tsk tsk... But jokes aside, when John told his father that he wasn't super interested in becoming a lawyer or merchant like his father wanted, Henry wrote this to his brother; ''if he enters upon the plan of Life which he Seemed to pant for when he wrote the 5th. July, I Shall give him up for lost & he will very Soon reproach himSelf for his want of Duty & affection towards me, for abandoning his Brothers & Sisters, for disregarding the Council of his Uncle, & for his deficiency of common understanding, in making Such a choice_ if these reflections prevail not over him, nothing will_ he must have his own way & I must be content with the remembrance, that I had a Son.'' Basically, Henry said he would disown John if he pursued his interests in medicine. So, John ended up becoming a lawyer/statesman to please his father. There are more examples of John trying to please his father, but let's not take that now... HOWEVER, after John had died, Henry wrote of him in response to John Adams' letter; ''Thank God I had a Son who dared to die in defence of his Country'' ... We get a lot of mixed signals from Henry... Though I do believe he loved him, at least somewhat.., even if he was controlling/manipulative. Henry wasn't too nice to his other children either, but since this is about John I'm not gonna talk about that.
John's brother James died at the age of 9-10 (1765-1775)
James, or Jemmy, was supposedly scaling the outside of their house and tried to jump to the landing outside of John’s window but fell. He received life threatening injuries and cracked his skull. The doctors had figured that the injuries were too severe to save him and John described it to his uncle four days later; "At some Intervals he had his senses, so far as to be able to answer single Questions, to beckon to me, and to form his Lips to kiss me, but for the most part he was delirious, and frequently unable to articulate. Puking, Convulsions never very violent, and latterly so gentle as scarcely to be perceived, or deserve the Name, ensued, and Nature yielded."
Since John was supposed to watch over James during this time, John felt guilty and as if it was his fault. James' death was very difficult for John, and it weighed heavily on him.
Henry did little to alleviate those feelings of guilt, which suggests that he either didn't care enough, or that a part of him also blamed John. (I am not saying he 100% did, but it would not be surprising if he so did, considering how he treated John.)
He could also have been in too much grief to console John... Which, as said, would not be too surprising considering his treatment of John. But nevertheless, he did not do much to help John and John's guilt.
TW: mentions of suicide.
It is highly speculated that John was suicidal. We have a couple of written exchanges where John discusses suicide with friends and family. In February 1774, John wrote to Henry Laurens about two men who had attempted suicide. We don't have the whole letter, but here is a part of Henry's response; ''...But, my Dear Son, I trust that your opinion on that Question is So firm, that you are armed with Such irrefragable proofs of the Impiety as well as Cowardice of Self Murther, as puts you out of danger of being made a Convert to Error...'' (Not gonna put all of it). Another time, when John was a prisoner of war and didn't handle imprisonment well, Hamilton wrote to John ''For your own sake, for my sake, for the public sake, I shall pray for the success of the attempt (of being exchanged) you mention; that you may have it in your power to act with us. But if you should be disappointed, bear it like a man; have recourse, neither to the dagger, nor to the poisoned bowl, nor to the rope.'' It is clear that Hamilton (and Henry, despite how he treated John) were worried about John's thoughts of suicide. John's last letter to Hamilton was probably one of the, if not the, most emotional. He wrote ''Adieu, my dear friend; while circumstances place so great distance between us, I entreat you not to withdraw the consolation of your letters. You know the unalterable sentiments of your affectionate Laurens.'' John died about a month later. On the day of his death, John and his men surprised a troop of British soldiers that outnumbered them. Instead of retreating, John chose to immediately attack. He did not really actively end his own life, though it seems as if it was planned or that he was trying. Which is just sad. Also, it's not sure that Hamilton's last letter to Laurens ever got to him before he died. (In that letter he tells John to quit his sword and come to congress with Hamilton)
I don't know what else to add actually but here you have it!! This is as accurate as I can get it, especially cause it's like mostly based on letters... Uhm. But yay!
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whereissmajor · 5 months
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smajor on a beach! <3
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huh…. beach is pretty empty today (wink wink nudge nudge)
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thelaurenshippen · 4 months
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911 really is such a good reminder of the particularly kind of joy that is weekly, seasons-long shows with many episodes per season. every character gets a moment to shine even in a truncated season. the satisfaction of seeing characters grapple with stuff that happened YEARS ago. having multi-episode arcs and one-off arcs that are equally enjoyable. beach episodes (metaphorical). I know we're all saying this all the time but why can't more tv be like this
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some nonhuman au designs of the gay trio,,,,,
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creaturefeaster · 9 months
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Is Elliot trans?? I saw on a post that it said "pre transition elliot" and that got me curious to whether it was about gender or some magical thing I missed knowing
Technically both heehee.
Yeah he's a trans dude. Him being trans doesn't have anything to do with magic, but the way he physically chose to transition was via magic :3
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faaun · 1 month
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ok let's catch up quickly
#so i went on a few dates w this guy. long hair beautiful face kinda looked like a girl (good) said yes ma'am when i told him to do smth#(also good) film student great at photography including candids. made a sheath of leather for a sword pin i have . et cetera.#he asked to cuddle and i was like iggg and then i felt Nothing and i was like ohhh yh ok ok yep lesbian#like he meets almost all my criteria but. yeahhh no . also at the end of that date he had some weird takes. anyway broke up w him and told#him actually im p sure im a lesbian (again) and he was like yk thats the second time this has happened to me this week but its ok bc ive#fallen for this girl from berlin. and then we cooked together. anyway . met a beautiful butch lowk in love w her. weve been on (1) date.#have two exams in a few days havent studied enough going to like end it all basically. my research partner kicked me off our research#(expected(it was always skinda sketchy)) which was devastating + it happened in a lidl 15 hours into a journey from bordeaux#to go back to the UK. my friends were kinda busy paying for baguettes but also they heard this whole exchange and are kinda mad at him#my friend of 10+ years is coming over in a few days. my evil ex situationship person that i decided to stay friends w because i kept#insisting they are a good friend and not evil and also extremely beautiful? turns out shockingly enough they were evil. tried to fix them#and then i realised due to their entire friendship group being ppl like me (Every Single One of their friends are ppl they met on dating#apps then led on then dumped and proposed staying friends w) and are collectively extremely attracted to them and not over them they#keep validating the most diabolical shit they say/do to hace a chance w them. they broke up w their ex and the way they keep leading#this poor girl on and making her heartbeeak worse and saying that they want more power over her and want her to beg for them back etc...MY#JAW HAD DROPPED esp bc i didnt even know the ex was in the picture BECAUSE ME AND ONE OF OUR FRIENDS (that they also dated) HAD JUSR SLEPT#NAKED TOGETHER IN THEIR BED W THEM. GIRL. anyway that is the least of the diabolical stuff they said but no we are moving onnn#this was b4 the beautiful butch btw. anyways . i have a mitski concert tmrw i think?? idek anymore#i used to have a crush on this guy very briefly and then it disappeared and then i realised if he fundementally changed everything abt#himself then maybe id like him but ofc i didnt tell him that but i still think abt it sometimes but anyway thats irrelevant now bc 99% sure#even if he did id still not find him attractive (lesbianism). please recommend good overnight moisturisers btw i have super dry skin#right. the friend of 10 yrs. we had a hard convo abt why she essentially bullied me in year 8 and it made me highly bitter but i also love#her and ik things are diff now its been like . Many Years . and shes going to stay a while I HAVE TWO EXAMS I DONT HAVE TIME but i love her#its fine. i think i might just switch into medicine and do the whole become a neurosurgeon thing (which was my plan B) bc plan A is looking#kinda impossible rn. I WANNA TALK MORE ABT WHAT THE EX SITUATIONSHIP PERSON SAID but i wont bc i dont wanna be too mean but also . MY GOD#i had a conversation w a philosopher friend about whether i have a moral responsibility to try to fix them bc unleashing this on society#feels wrong and he said 'probably but...run' so yeah im not talking to them atm. second date w beautiful butch on monday btw IDK WHAT TO#WEAR. she said she likes fems. im just gonna wear the shortest ralph lauren skirt i have w the cute leg warmers and hope 4 the best#its 1:15 AM im abt to drink coffee and start studying bc what the FUCK man. also almost finished watching the boys its very good#one of my best friends is struggling rn it is breaking my heart i want to take the burden from her i miss her very much
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pythiaswine · 2 years
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CAN I JUST TALK ABOUT HOW BAD I WANTED LMM TO LEGITIMIZE LAMS but i kept being let down over and over again like ughhhh. first he gives the Angelica relationship a whole song and subplot and yes it was great, the whole musical's a lyrical, compositional, choreographed masterpiece BUT WE AREN'T HERE TO DISCUSS THAT. we are here to talk about how his source material was biased because Chernow gave breath to the Angelica thing, as improbable as it was (especially compared to the probability of the Laurens/Hamilton relationship? homophobia.) but then picture it, I'm a young, naïve teenager, I'm very fixated on lams and history, I loved the Hamilton musical, was a Hamilton teen and that part of me is irreparably burned into my brain. then LMM drops this sneaky little tidbit like the beacon of wisdom his fans see him as bc he wrote a historical self-insert fanfic for broadway, he says the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real. great! but he didn't actually put it in the musical and that disappointed me. And damn, okay, he had a few lines here and there in the off-broadway version that were cut but maybe that wasn't his fault or maybe he planned on fleshing it out more and had to cut it down to make it more palatable for the people sponsoring his ride to broadway, a pathetic excuse but it could make sense. For all that, I could have forgiven, forgotten, etc etc... but I will NEVER forget naïvely believing during the year the Hamildrops were released that we'd finally get a Laurens/Hamilton song. In April it didn't happen, I thought okay, maybe pride month. Didn't happen in pride month. Didn't even happen in September or October, or as a last-minute gay reveal in December. It just didn't happen at all. We even got some covers of songs that already existed without notable variations on the lyrics and it's like... bro couldn't have done the bare minimum and had a Laurens cover of Satisfied? That's the moment I was let down for real. I had truly BELIEVED that because he said himself that the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real, he'd actually follow through on something that could be digested by the fans more than a forgotten tweet. but damn it hurt. absolutely no queer representation in a musical about Alexander Hamilton. bro. to play devil's advocate, there is no way to "prove" hamilton wasn't straight (eye-roll) but it's not like Hamilton: An American Musical is historically accurate in the least. It's embellished, fun, glamorous. It paints people in their best (unless you're charles lee lol) considering it's about a bunch of people who definitely were not kickass abolitionist BIPOC, but because LMM found it important to represent America today, he made the cast very inclusive to cultures and ethnicities of those these historical figures oppressed. so why can't he fictionalize the story a bit more? it's not even FICTION BRO it's literally more provable (and less problematic and more interesting) than the Angelica/Hamilton affair so WHYYYY. all i mean to say is, i was very let down and i can't appreciate the musical or LMM the same as I did when i was younger because now it gives me the straight-man ick. the "yeah they were gay!" for ++ points with the lgbtq+ fans but a severe lack of action. i hate that shit. real allies would say "fuck your homophobia, i'm publishing my art as it is even if i face backlash and censorship," because that's how shit gets done. it really really let me down, that's all, good night.
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Her name is Julia Thorne, merely an alias. She goes by another name, a name you're quite familiar with.
#aliasedit#alias#multiamorymarch#sydney bristow#julian sark#lauren reed#polyamships#polyamoryinfandoms#userthing#tvedit#multiamory march#lauren x sark x sydney#lauren x sark#lauren x sydney#sark x sydney#sstrio#myedit#sark; lauren and the mystery of julia. sark and lauren united by the mystery of julia. that's it that's the gifset.#and maybe they can't solve it because they're both julia but julia isn't all that sydney is.#it's like looking in the mirror and not seeing a reflection.#with lauren the parallels are obvious. the hair. both covenant agents. assignment to kill lazarey. simon and sark as partners.#even the end of full disclosure feels like the death of one julia and the birth of another.#but sark is in part julia too. julia is an illusion and sark is too. there's nothing concrete; nothing solid; nothing real about him.#and there was no need to name him julian. not when his father is russian. why not give him a russian name? a common russian name.#but they said no. he's going to be sydney's namesake. sydney's dark alter ego's namesake.#it's also interesting to think about allison in relation to all this. because unlike lauren or sark she had all the chances to meet julia.#it could have been the final covenant's test. to see if the brainwashing really took.#how would julia react to the news that allison is still alive. would she flinch upon seeing her. would she be able to work with her.#what would allison report to the covenant after. what would sydney do to convince allison that she doesn't remember her.#doesn't see francie looking back at her. that julia is who she is now. and could allison be the one to solve the mystery of julia?
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thewhizzyhead · 1 year
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okay um so how utterly shocked and/or disappointed would you guys be if I told you that the one thing that has finally convinced me to actually check out Starkid's The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals,,,was a video of the musical's closing number filled with literally all of the musical's spoilers + a plot twist and a breakdown that is clearly meant to be experienced um chronologically for it to have the most impact especially considering that it HEAVILY involves the show's two main characters and that said twist HEAVILY relies upon ummmm yea actually having watched the fucking musical properly first-
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mudstoneabyss · 2 years
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Charles is the type of guy who seems like he'd want to learn about his town and its history even if it's not relevant to him so must be hard when so much of it people refuse to talk about. he doesn't have a straight answer as to what Strex's whole deal is and what's with that scientist who's mentioned in so many historical buildings who looks uncannily like him
#Kevin eventually tells him about Strex but he tells him considerably less so about Carlos#and also what Kevin tells him about Strex doesnt line up with what the og db townsfolk tell him about Strex with what the nv townsfolk#tell him about Strex with what Lauren tells him about Strex#hes really having to fight to puzzle this out without crossing anyones boundaries or stepping on any toes#I love the idea of Lauren having been born during Strex and after the creation of the Joyous Congregation so her relationship with those#are those with someone who was born and raised in any other cult; I'm especially thinking of ones like Mormonism here#and her brainwashing- as opposed to Kevin's indoctrinated kind- is intrinsic#so post Strex being brought down is the first time she's ever been confronted with Maybe Strex Is Bad and it Doesnt Have To Be Like That#and idk. I think her and Charles talk about it. a little. as much as she's willing to open up#also her desert otherworld situation fucks me up. Carlos and Kevin didnt have to eat so why was she dehydrated and starving the whole time?#does tdow just retain the state youre in when you enter it? why would she have already been in that situation then?#''because Finknor's inconsistent'' shut up. play in this space with me. believe everything's intentional bc its more fun than believing#that theyre mistakes#wtnv#joyousposting#i need to relisten to some of Dana's talk about tdow to see if there's anything there that continues the Dana/Lauren parallels
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normally I'm not very critical of movies but oh my gosh. the one I just watched was so bad (I sat here for a while trying to figure out the best way to word this but the benadryl has already kicked in. no thoughts head empty). like genuinely how the fuck did this get funding. How did it make it into THEATERS?
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That scene in season 16 where Emily says “I’m giving him what he wants, Mommy” is all fun and games bc Prentiss calling herself mommy is just… so on the nose. But it’s also so much deeper than that.
When she was fairly new to the team, she was almost always the one they would use if someone had to seduce/attract an unsub. Even when she didn’t want to (in ‘52 Pickup’ when the boys all look at her expectantly and she says ‘oh, this is really gonna suck’). She didn’t want to do it but she knew their best chance of catching the guy was if she used herself as bait. She even puts herself in danger in that one bar scene in a different episode. Basically, the team expected her to use her looks and flirt with dangerous men.
Then, flashback to her days as Lauren Reynolds… I don’t even need to get into all of that because we all know how much that cost her mentally and psychologically. And then you have Derek essentially slutshaming her for it, even though the team expects that of her when it’s to their benefit.
Even if you want to take it further, when she was 15 she felt she had to sleep with someone to feel accepted, again using her body as a tool to please others. It’s something she’s been taught to do from a very young age, and was consistently reinforced throughout her career.
So yeah, I get why it felt like the natural next step during that interrogation. Without even thinking about it that hard she just starts unbuttoning her blouse and making herself more attractive to get information out of the suspect. I honestly think Douglas Bailey was the first man to ever tell her not to do it.
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thelaurenshippen · 10 months
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Hi there! I started relistening to the bright sessions (as one does) and had a random question come up. When did you know that Mark/Sam wasn't going to be endgame (romantically)? I know in s4 they both fall apart separately and together, but even in Safehouse pt 2 (my absolute beloved) they argue about their coping mechanisms. Did you know then that they weren't going to end up together? How did you come to that conclusion?
hey!! this is a great question - I definitely did start the show thinking they were endgame and that's mostly what I was thinking at the time of safehouse too, despite their issues. I think it was really in writing Season 4 actually, when I realized that I was no longer telling a story about two people in love working through their issues, but was instead telling a story about two people who were in love but realized they shouldn't be together in that way. I started to feel those tension points in Season 3 (I would say the safehouse episodes were a true attempt for them to learn to work through their issues), but it wasn't until planning S4 that I really made the decision.
there are a lot of things that led to this that I'll try to articulate, because the honest, simplest answer as to why the plans changed was "because it felt like they should". but if I were think back and pinpoint a few reasons for that...
there was never supposed to be a love triangle. Mark was always bisexual but he and Damien were never supposed to develop feelings for one another. but the first time we got Andrew and Charlie into a room and read through their first episode together it was like "oh, OH-kay" (which, sidebar: clearly I was writing something between them subtextually because it wasn't like Andrew and Charlie were strangers to each other - I'd watched them act ALL sorts of scenes together in acting class but the romantic chemistry popped OUT with Mark/Damien. pretty much from the second motel episode on, I was writing leaning into that dynamic). that threw a lot of spanners into the works because while I never had plans to put Mark and Damien together, I hadn't anticipated Mark grappling with feelings for someone else.
similarly, I'd underestimated just how flawed Sam was. Sam is not a bad person, but she sometimes doesn't really know how to be a person who cares about other people. when you add that to the dynamics of Damien and Joan kind of, like, hovering over Mark in various unproductive ways (for Damien, it's destructive and invasive; for Joan, she's just a too-involved older sister sometimes), Sam becomes another person who is kind of, like...controlling Mark, or trying to, because she loves him and doesn't know how to (I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm just regurgitating actual lines I wrote lol). this is not to say that her flaws make her unable to be in a relationship (Mark is also deeply flawed!) but just that their flaws clashed against each other in ways I hadn't planned.
finally: Joan and found family. in my mind, there was something grand and romantic about Sam meeting Dr. Bright so that she could be led to Mark - like they were somehow always fated to meet. in actuality, it's not that at all - instead, the bond that Sam and Joan have is just as important as the one she has with Mark, albeit different. I don't believe in soulmates personally, but I've always liked the idea that you have people out there. soulmates in a more general sense - people you click with, have a connection with. it can be romantic, familial, friendship, work or creative partnerships, whatever. I think the Bryant siblings and Sam have that. I think Sam and Mark are meant for each other but in a non-exclusive way and in a...maybe not non-romantic way, but a way that doesn't have romance at the forefront. they love each other deeply and they fit, but a romantic partnership might not be the best way forward for them. and Joan and Sam are the whole heart of the show to me in some senses. as I was writing the finale, I very intentionally ended with the two of them - both because the final appearance of every character is in order of when they first appeared, but in reverse and also because the show starts with both of them in dark, destructive places and while there's broken trust between them throughout, they ultimately help each other get better. I thought Sam's story was about finding love and it was, but that love looked differently than I had planned.
okay, god, this has gotten waaaaaay too long and rambly. I hope this answers your question? one of my favorite things/the thing I miss most about making a show like TBS is being able to shift things based on chemistry/what the actors bring/etc. so often now, I'm writing entire seasons of things and then handing them off to production, in which anything can happen! the flexibility of recording episode by episode in TBS is something I took full advantage of.
thanks for listening and relistening!!
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glassrunner · 2 years
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uuuuuuu i just finished my last ever game of overwatch 1...
if you’ve been following me since around 2016, you know how hard of a time i was having with being alive in general. i constantly was posting about my depression and how fucking suicidal i was, and how it just seemed like nothing was ever worth it, i’d never change and become someone i could give a shit about.
as stupid as it sounds, overwatch was my escape. it got me out of bed in the mornings where all i wanted to do was die. sure, i was failing classes, failing social life, failing myself, but when i won games and climbed through the ranks... it meant there was at least something i wasn’t fucking up. and even though i eventually had to leave college and come back to a partially toxic home environment, overwatch was the one thing i didn’t want to give up, even though i thought i’d have to, which nearly killed me. i couldn’t give it up because it was the one thing that made me want to be great anymore. 
and then, in spring 2020, everything changed: i got to join a team. for the first time, i was competing with people who were incredibly talented, but also close enough to become some of my best friends. and even though ptsd and other awful things struck, the game was constant: you can learn, improve, win, even if you feel like you’re failing in everything else. 
i became familiar with the fierce and unadulterated joy of winning with your closest friends in the toughest of competitions -- the power in knowing exactly what you need to do, when you need to do it, and then actually achieving it. the pride and ego of having casters scream your name, the chat scrolling with “NOMAD IS A GOD ANA,” the thank yous from my teammates when i have their backs. the amazement from everyone (including myself) when i actually play dps really well.
sometimes i took it for granted. i regret letting my anxiety get the best of me and stop me from even trying to climb sometimes. i won’t anymore. 
for those of you who plan to play, see you on the other side <3
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I wish I hated you
Summary: You never thought a family dinner would include the father of your children, but after you and Joel finally talk, things might slowly start to heal between the two of you.
Pairing: past Joel Miller x fem. reader
Wordcount: 3.9k
Rating: T
Warnings: angst, crying, talk about past shitty behaviour, more sorry's, beginning of moving on, feelings and their denial, more feelings, it's complicated cause these fools deep down love each other, food, regrets
A/N: It's been a while, but Part four is finally here. I was struggling with this but I finally have the idea for how to end this. One more part and we're done. Hope you enjoy this (and if not, don't tell me lol)
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part four of invisible string
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Life in Jackson quickly became your new normal, apart from the fact that he was here too. 
Leo and Ana were thriving, going to school every day. They learned to write and to read and to count and they were excited to tell you about every little thing they had learned in school every time you picked them up. 
You already had a big collection of pictures they painted in class all around the house too. 
You had been in Jackson for almost four months now. 
You brother, being the more open one of the two of you, already had made a lot of friends. He was a trusted part of the patrol group and went out at least twice per week.
He also was officially dating Lauren, the school teacher as of the week before. 
And you?
You were… okay.
After the first two weeks of living in Jackson you had started the working rotation to find out how you could provide something to the community and you had been happy to now be working at the kitchen every morning to prepare breakfast and lunch service at the community hall. 
Cooking had always been your happy place.
You hadn’t really made any friends. 
You were working with Carl, Andy and Lisa in the kitchen, and you were going to weekly dinners at Maria and Tommy’s place. 
You and Tommy had a long talk shortly after you arrived.
He had told you how sorry he was for everything that happened. He felt guilty for leaving out of the blue, without telling you, knowing how bad Joel had been back then. 
But you weren’t mad at him, and you told him that. 
It wasn’t his responsibility to stay back just because his brother did. Tommy had believed he would find something better when he left with the Fireflies. And even though it hadn’t worked out with them, his life still changed for the better. 
Leo and Ana were ecstatic to have a little cousin in Sammy. Of course you had to explain what cousin meant, which also meant that Tommy became Uncle Tommy. A title he took with pride. 
Life was good. 
As good as it could be with anyone doing their best to not mention the big elephant in the room. 
Joel.
You hadn’t seen him more for a couple of moments since the morning he came to pick up your brother. That did not mean you had not heard about him though. 
Your brother Calvin apparently had been paired with him out on patrol a couple of times and you were more than surprised when Calvin asked you how or if he should answer when Joel asked him questions about you and the twins. 
Apparently after the first couple of almost silent patrols out, Joel had to began to ask about you on the latest patrol. Something that surprised you, if you were honest. 
You really didn’t think Joel was thinking about you. Even though he told you he was still in love with you all those weeks ago. 
How was the man who said all those cruel words to you when you needed him most still in love with you?
And why hadn’t you been able to stop thinking about him ever since that first night you saw him again?
He had not only hurt you, he had broken you. Had blamed the whole pregnancy on you alone, as if he wasn’t the one who had fucked you and had came inside of you. 
You were always on the verge between angry, hurt and longing when it came to Joel and you had no fucking clue what to do about it. 
So, after taking some time to think about your brothers question over what to tell Joel when he asked about you, you took matters in your own hands and had made the decision to talk to the man in question yourself. 
You had asked Maria where you would be able to find him and she had told you that he was working on a house on the other side of town together with Tommy for the week. Apparently the girl, Ellie, wasn’t feeling too well and Joel did not want to be on patrol until she got better. 
So on a rainy day, after you got your kids to school, you found yourself walking towards the house Maria had told you. It was Tommy you saw first when you walked up the stairs, his eyes widening in surprise before he nodded his head up, silently telling you that Joel was upstairs. 
You were thankful that the house seemed to be empty apart from Joel who you could hear hammering upstairs. Taking a deep breath you pulled your soaked rain jacket off, hanging it on a doorhandles downstairs, before you walked up. 
He must have not heard you walk up the steps, his back turned towards you as he knelt on the floor, hammering some floor boards. You approached him quietly, leaning with your shoulder against the doorframe of the door he was working in. 
It gave you some time to look at him. 
Noticing the changes in his appearance in the last six years. 
It seemed to you that he aged quite a lot since the last time you saw him. There was a lot more grey in his hair than you remembered. 
When you looked at his hands you found him wearing his wedding ring. The one you had put on his fingers, the one that he hadn’t worn much when you were still together. 
You were more than surprised that he still had it. 
He stilled for a moment before his head turned towards you, as if he had sensed you standing there. Surprised he raised his eyebrows before he put the hammer down, pulling himself up to his feet with a groan, his joints popping. 
You continued to look at him, now noticing the deeper lines around his eyes. 
He seemed nervous as he looked at you. 
„Calving told me you have questions,“ you said after a while.
„I do,“ he said with a small nod. 
„Why?“ You asked. 
„So I know that you and the… that you are okay. That you don’t need anything,“ he said. 
„You did not care about me when you told me to get the fuck out of your life,“ you said before you could stop yourself. He visibly flinched, closing his eyes. 
„I should have never said that,“ he whispered, looking at the ground as he shook his head. 
„No, you shouldn’t,“ you agreed. 
For a while the only sound that could be heard was the rain outside. 
„I revisit that day every single day and I can’t understand why I said those things,“ he said all of the sudden, looking up at you. 
„I can not understand why I treated you like I did. And I am not talking just about that night. I am talking about the whole time. Every time I told you that you deserve better, I meant it. I wasn’t… I am not what you deserve. I am broken. Maybe that’s why I kept lashing out at you. To make you understand.“
„It’s because of Sarah,“ you said and you could hear him take a deep breath, his eyes closing. 
Only saying this name had him shouting at you in the past, but you weren’t afraid of his reaction now. 
„You push everything and everyone away because you feel like it was your fault that Sarah died. And so you push everyone and everything away that could potentially hurt you like Sarah’s death did without realising that it is you how is hurting you,“ you said. 
A tear slipped down his cheek. 
„They ask about you,“ you said and he furrowed his brows.
„They ask about their Dad. In the community before they did not have an actual school, but the kids got to hang out three times a week and every time friends of them were picked up by their father, they asked about where their Dad was,“ you sighed. 
„What did you tell them?“
„That their father was out and looking for a better world for us,“ you whispered, blinking your own tears away. You looked at him with a sad smile. 
„They look so much like you. They both have your eyes and your curly hair. And your stubbornness,“ you said the last part with a small smile. 
Joel chuckled. 
„I’m sorry for that,“ he said with a head shake. 
���Can’t wait for them to be teenagers. It’s gonna be a ride,“ you said. 
Joel sucked his bottom lip in before he spoke.
„If you need help then, or… anytime really… I have some experience with moody teenagers. Sarah was…,“ a small smile sneaked to his lips, „Sarah could easily bribed with food. My Tacos to be specific. And since Tommy found a Taco press and there’s a whole field of corn currently growing….“
„I’ll keep that in mind,“ you said softly. 
Tommy called for help from downstairs and you sucked your bottom lip in. 
Joel grabbed his toolbox.
„We have dinner at Tommy’s place every Thursday,“ you said as he turned towards you again. 
He nodded. 
„If you like, you and Ellie could join us tomorrow,“ you said, before your brain could talk you out of it. 
„Are you sure?“
You huffed a laugh. 
„Not really. If I’m honest I am terrified of getting hurt again, but I am also tired of running. There is still this part inside of me, that wants you. That is and probably always will be in love with you. But while I figure this part of my feelings out, you can get to know your kids, if you’d like,“ you said.
He nodded slowly. 
„I’d really like that.“
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You had never been more thankful to have found a friend like Maria. 
After telling her that you had invited Joel over for Thursday night dinner, you had freaked out immediately. Maria knew everything. You had told her you whole history with Joel after she had shown up with a bottle of wine on your doorstep a couple of weeks after you had arrived and you had spilled your feelings after two glasses of wine. 
Knowing your whole history with Joel did not help Maria’s dislike of him in the least. She judged him for the things he had done to keep the people he loved safe. How he made Tommy participate. And even though you could have just let Maria rant about him and his ways, you found yourself defending him. 
Something Maria could not understand in the beginning. 
How you could defend a man who killed, tortured, robbed and hurt people without any consequences. A man who hurt you so baldy you fled across the country while being pregnant. 
And logically she was right. There was no sane reason why you should be defending him. 
Then again, falling for the man in the first place was probably not the most logic decision you made all those years back. 
You just did.
So here you were, a glass of wine in your left hand while you „helped“ Maria cook dinner. You could hear Leo and Ana in the living room as they played with Tommy. 
Usually your brother Calvin would be here too, but it was his girlfriend's birthday to day and they had plans.
„You ready to forgive him? Just like that?“ Maria asked. 
You shook your head. 
„This is not about that. He’s their father,“ you whispered the last sentence. 
„And no matter how much of an asshole he was to me, I don’t want to stand in the way of them having a relationship, if he wants to have one,“ you said.
„I think he wants the whole package,“ Maria said, stirring the soup she had made.
You raised one eyebrow. 
„Joel came over to help Tommy fix the roof last weekend, and he stayed for dinner and some drinks afterwards. I overhead them talk about you from upstairs,“ she said quietly. 
„He is pretty damn determinate to win you back. Said he never loved anyone as much as he does still love you and that he’ll spend the rest of his life worshipping you on his knees if you gave him another chance,“ Maria said. 
„He said that?“ You asked. She nodded. 
„They were already some beers deep into the conversation, but yeah. I had my doubts, I still have them. But I can’t deny that the man is in love with you. And he’s a great father to Ellie, even though it’s complicated between them at the moment.“
Before you could react there was a knock on the door and you felt yourself tense up. 
Maria gave you a warm smile. 
„Better get out there, before Tommy tells them who exactly Joel is,“ she said and your eyes widened before you walked towards the door. 
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Joel had been nervous many many times in his life. 
But nothing seemed to compare to the moment he knocked on the door of his brothers house, knowing you and his two kids, the kids he never met before, were waiting behind it. 
He had spent almost twenty minutes trying to find an outfit for himself, like this was some kind of date. Which technically it was. It was a date to meet his children for the first time. And the first step to hopefully earning your trust and forgiveness. So when he saw his blue flannel, the only piece of clothing that had survived all the way from Boston, your favourite shirt on him, it felt like it was a sign. 
„So these kids really don’t know who you are?“ Ellie asked next to him. He was more than glad she had agreed to come with him tonight. Though Maria cooking her favourite dinner might have been the real reason she agreed. 
Things with Ellie were still tense. 
And that was another thing he was to blame for. 
He should have told her the truth from the beginning. Not that it would have made the whole situation about Ellie feeling like she lost her purpose better, but at least he wouldn’t have lied to her. 
Lying to protect the people he loved seemed to be a pattern in Joel’s life, that he needed to work on too. 
„They don’t. I don’t know if or when she will tell them. So please don’t mention it. I know you’re not my biggest fan at the moment, but those kids should not have to suffer because of it, okay?“ He asked. 
Ellie rolled her eyes with a sigh. 
„Won’t spill the beans, promise,“ she said.
The door opened and Tommy grinned at them. 
„Fancy seeing you here,“ he said, Sammy on his arm who already made grabby hands towards Joel. He found himself smiling at his little nephew before he reached over to take Sammy from Tommy. 
„Yeah, Yeah. I was promised food,“ Ellie grumbled, pushing past the men.
„Still a ray of sunshine, huh?“ Tommy teased, rubbing through Ellie’s hair and she slapped his hand away with a long groan.
Joel followed them inside, closing the door behind him, Sammy still on his arm. His hands were clammy as he heard Ellie introduce herself to Leo and Ana. Sammy looked up at Joel, putting one tiny hand on his cheek, making raspberry lips. Joel find himself smiling, the nervous flutter in his stomach dying down a little. 
„Hi,“ he heard your voice and he turned his head as you walked out of the kitchen towards him. You were wearing what looked like a oversized black sweater that went to the middle of your upper thighs and a leggings beneath it. You looked cozy and he wanted nothing more than to pull you in his arms and….
„Hey,“ he said, interrupting his train of thoughts.
„You want me to go in with you? Introduce you?“ You asked. He found himself nodding.
„I am gonna tell them that you are Joel’s brother. Nothing more right now, okay?“ You asked again and he nodded again. 
„Okay,“ you said before you turned away from him, but he reached for you before he even realised he was moving, catching you by surprise, as he carefully wrapped his hand around your wrist. He could hear you little gasp as you turned back to him, your eyes searching his. 
„You look beautiful,“ he whispered squeezing your wrist.
He watched as you took a deep breath, your eyes slipping close for just a moment before you opened them and gave him a small smile.
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The combination of seeing Joel wear the shirt you had gifted him for Christmas in 2014 and seeing him hold Sammy in his arms was a little overwhelming. 
But that was nothing compared to your body reacting to his touch as he told you that you looked beautiful. You flushed so hard, you were sure you could melt snow if you stepped outside. 
It was various kinds of fascinating that he still had that effect on you. 
Taking a deep breath as you turned away from him you walked inside the living room where Ellie was already sitting between Ana and Leo who were explaining their rules of Monopoly to them. Tommy had found a lot of boardgames on patrol a while back and borrowed it for tonight. 
You did not think playing Monopoly was a perfect bonding experience (it was war really) but who were you to complain?
„You gonna play too Mommy?“ Ana asked as she saw you, giving you those big pleasing puppy eyes she had from her father. 
„After dinner. I promise. But we play the official rules and no cheating like the last time,“ you said with narrowed eyes and Leo giggled. 
„Hi Ellie,“ you smiled at her and she gave you a small wave before she looked back at the game.
You took a deep breath.
„Remember that I told you that there would be guests tonight? You already meet Ellie, and this is Joel. Tommy’s brother,“ you explained to them. 
They both said Hi to him and you looked behind you finding Joel’s watery eyes on them. 
„You gonna play with us after dinner too, Mr. Joel?“ Ana asked with hopeful eyes. The dimple that mirrored Joel’s showing on her cheek as she smiled.
Joel cleared his throat and you found yourself stepping closer to him, hesitantly taking his hand.
He looked at you and you gave him a small nod. 
„I’d love to.“
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It was way past the twins bedtime when you finished the second round of Monopoly. Against your hesitations, no family war broke out and Maria declared herself the winner, much to the disappointment of Ellie. 
It only took you three hours to understand why Joel was so protective of the girl. She was funny, smart and took no shit from anyone. 
Ana and Leo had been sleeping on the couch for at least an hour when you were helping to clean up the table.
„Can we… do this again?“ Ellie asked hesitantly while Joel was helping his brother in the kitchen to dry the dishes. 
„We do this every Thursday. You are always welcome to join, Ellie,“ Maria said.
„Cool,“ she nodded and you smiled, before you looked towards the couch, wondering how you would get those two kids home. 
„You think Tommy could help me get Leo home?“ You asked Maria.
„Why? We live on the same street. Joel can help,“ Ellie said before Maria could answer. Maria chuckled.
„She’s right, you know?“ Maria said. 
„I always am,“ Ellie said as she walked towards the door, calling one loud bye into the house before she stepped outside. 
There was a part of you that did not want this evening to end. 
It really felt like you were a family. 
After dinner the kids had went right into their first round of Monopoly, Tommy and Joel joining them as you had helped Maria in the kitchen. 
All you thoughts about this evening being awkward disappeared as you had come back into the living room to find Leo sitting in Joel’s lap, both of them grinning and plotting against Tommy who had Ana on his lap. 
You knew that both of the kids were so much like Joel. But seeing Leo and Joel like that made you realise that he really was a Mini version of Joel.
It made you wonder how the last years could have been if things had went differently. 
But maybe he just wasn’t ready for it back then.
„Thank you for dinner, Maria,“ Joel said as he walked back into the living room. 
„Yes, Thank you for dinner Maria,“ Tommy grinned as he went over to her, kissing her softly. 
„Oh by the way Ellie volunteered you to carry Leo home,“ Maria said towards Joel who raised his eyebrows in surprise. 
„Is that so?“ He asked with a chuckle.
„You don’t have to though. I can go ask Calvin…“ you began but he shook his head, walking towards the couch and carefully picked up Leo who, as if sensing it, put his arms around his neck, continuing to sleep soundly. 
You gulped, giving both Tommy and Maria a nervous smile before you walked to the couch, picking Ana up. She snuggled against your neck. 
„Good night,“ Maria and Tommy whispered, following you down the hallway to their door. 
„Good night,“ you whispered back, taking a deep breath before you followed Joel. 
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Ellie must have went home already, leaving the two of you alone on the short walk to your house. 
„I can’t believe I voluntarily gave all of this up because I was such a coward,“ Joel said quietly as you walked into your street. 
„They are pretty awesome huh?“ You asked and you could hear the smile in his voice as he answered:
„They are everything.“
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Once you were at your house you guided him upstairs and into the twins room. He carefully put Leo into his bed before he walked out of the room as you undressed them and put them into their pyjamas. Giving both of them a forehead kiss you walked out of their room, closing the door behind you.
Joel was nowhere to be found so you walked back down, finding him sitting on the porch steps outside. It had started to rain again. 
When you approached him you could hear him sniffling, your heart breaking. 
„Why don’t you hate me?“ He asked as you sat down next to him. 
„I pushed you away. I pushed my wife away, the only woman I ever truly loved. I pushed you away because I was scared to loose you. How fucking stupid can a person be? Why am I like this? I lost everything and rightfully so and yet here you are, giving me a chance to meet the children who I wanted you to…“ he stopped himself. You could see him shaking as he cried, his head lowered, his face hidden behind his hands. 
Hesitantly you let your head fall on his shoulder, one of your hand coming to rest on his knee. 
„I wish I hated you,“ you whispered;
„But I just can’t stop loving you.“
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I WANNA BE YOURS | LIONESSES X READER | PT 3
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pairings: lionesses x reader
summary: in which you're accidentally added to a random group chat, not knowing they're all actually famous footballers, and obliviously end up having many of them competing for your love and attention.
part: three
part one here
✦ ——— ✦ ——— ✦
THE NATIONAL DIVING TEAM
brightness
we have training tomorrow
just a reminder
the REAL karate kid
ughh
kie
what's the bet leah and georgia
are gonna be a show off
while niamh's gonna be off in her own world
neev
hey! no need to call me out like that
i do focus
stairway
i am not a show off
willybum
me neither!
door knob
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you guys need proof?
the imposter
damn
you guys got that athletic build 💪
the REAL karate kid
......
willybum
.......
stairway
.......
elton
.......
earpsy
.......
brightness
.......
neev
.......
lotte
.......
maya
.......
daily
.......
the imposter
YO
HOW MANY OF YOU ARE ON THIS CHAT??
elton
i think the rest are asleep
the imposter
are you guys all part of some cult omg
and why do you guys have like
group training together?
that's kinda sus
the REAL karate kid
honestly it's kinda fun and chaotic
lotte
are we all gonna ignore the fact that
nobbs has photos of georgia's and leah's muscles?
door knob
are we just gonna keep referring
the imposter as imposter?
or if anyone's gonna ask her name?
the imposter
your name's nobbs??
LMAO THE DOOR KNOB MAKES SO
MUCH MORE SENSE NOW 😭💀
also
my name's y/n
neev
that is such a pretty name
the imposter
thank you!
elton
you know
you never really answered
lotte's question nobbs ....
willybum
it's because i'm her favourite duh
stairway
um it's actually me
hence why she sent a photo of mine first
meado
and here we go again
✦ ——— ✦ ——— ✦
elton
oi
hello
@everyone
why is everyone so dead right now
earpsy
maybe it's the fact that we just finished training
the REAL karate kid
and because we actually have lives
elton
that's a lie and we all know it
the imposter
how was training?
neev
tiring
feeling quite dead rn
willybum
funny actually
lessi slipped and slammed
face first into the training mat
elton
that was the highlight of my day
the REAL karate kid
glad to know my misery
causes you guys happiness
rusty metal
guys
i stumbled upon the best photo ever
my eyes have been blessed
stairway
omg
bronzy in her active era??
daily
ooh do show
lotte
it's intrigued my interest now too
rusty metal
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neev
LMAO
willybum
WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THIS
the REAL karate kid
CRYING RN 😭💀
elton
STOP 😭
this is a masterpiece
i'm saving this
stairway
she's a barbie gurl 💅
earpsy
PLS 💀
willybum
i'm blocking yall
stairway
your eyes just can't handle this much art
the imposter
hello friends of y/n!
i was trying to take photos of y/n
and accidentally clicked into here
neev
hello friend of y/n
the imposter
WHAT IS THAT PHOTO OF LEAH WILLIAMSON 😭
is this some kind of football fan cult??
some of your usernames are familiar in a strange way
idk why i can't seem to place it
elton
hmm quite strange
don't you all agree?
stairway
hmm very strange indeed
brightness
yes
daily
indeed
willybum
very
the REAL karate kid
where's y/n?
the imposter
standing in front of me
has no clue i'm on this chat
i'll send a photo
hang on
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(lets just pretend they can see your face in the photo)
now she wants her phone back
goodbye strange strangers
elton
......
stairway
......
willybum
......
the REAL karate kid
......
neev
......
rusty metal
......
brightness
......
daily
......
doorknobs
......
meado
......
kie
......
earpsy
......
maya
......
lotte
......
lauren 1
......
stairway
the whole chat rn:
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elton
i was not expecting this today-
the REAL karate kid
toone, this is literally the best
most dumbest thing you've done-
neev
honestly
lotte
my eyes have been blessed twice today
willybum
wow
the REAL karate kid
you can get my number wrong
anytime toone
part four here
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