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[savethegrishaverse]

One of our campaign organizers - geekgal2006 on insta (if you want to go give her a follow 😉) - made a video highlighting the experience at ASOCAS3 and can I just say it makes me tear up a little bit! I'm just so in awe, this is such a passionate fandom and one that seems set on sticking around for awhile longer!

[purpleyin]

After an unfortunate delay due to being ill the last few months, the 1001 suns are finally packed up and sent on their way to Netflix in the USA 🎉

The package can be tracked on the Royal Mail website with the tracking code:

EF046490328GB

https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/EF046490328GB

@savethegrishaverse

[evellynssocbrainrot]

The biggest lie of the century, you stupid motherfuckers!!

The Third Army and the Locknation would like a fucking word with you

Honestly, Shadow and Bone was on the top of Netflix's weekly global for WEEKS!!!!

Lockwood and Co scored a 94% average rating on Rotten Tomatoes

THE AUDACITY OF THEM TO SAY THIS, FUCK NETFLIX FR

[nitestorm823]

Hello Shadow & Bone Fan,

Come Join Us Celebrate Shadow & Bone TV Series and the Books written by Leigh Bardugo. A Fan Group By Fans For Fans.

Shadow & Bone Fan

#ShadowandBone #SixofCrows

[km4083846]

So good I had to share! Check out all the items I'm loving on @Poshmarkapp from @nizhniynovgorod1981 #poshmark #fashion #style #shopmycloset #perseption #allsaints #thirdarmy: https://bnc.lt/focc/cyNX99rKXR

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[leightonoc]

What would a Jeep be without a decal of Patton on the back? Kids got me the first one a few years ago. Just put a fresh one on the rear window. Patton is one of my favorite movies probably because it has so many Jeeps in it. His family lives the next town over and I’ve gotten to know some of them over the years. Nice folks. . . . . . #patton #georgepatton #georgespatton #jeeps #jeep #wrangler #jeepwrangler #jk #willy #willys #since1941 #willysjeep #jeepfam #itsajeepthing #jeepjku #jku #jeeplife #willysjeep #willystruck #jeepfriends #jeepfamily #jeepfam #army #usarmy #thirdusarmy #3rdusarmy #thirdarmy #3rdarmy https://instagr.am/p/CAtv9fiDC5Z/

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This is such a well thought out work, thank you for sharing this!

Are Kanej asexuals?

While we celebrate LGBTQIA+ Pride in the Grishaverse, let's discuss a matter that is not always well understood, but often spoken about in the fandom - are Kanej asexuals?

Trigger warning for talk of sexuality, trauma, PTSD and past sexual abuse.

According to asexuals.fandom.com, the asexuality spectrum is an umbrella term that applies to people who feel little to no sexual attraction and includes such micro labels as asexual, aroace, graysexual, demisexual, aegosexual, apothisexual, fraysexual, aceflux, cupiosexual, orchidsexual or caedosexual. A-spec is a term that can include all of the above.

A little known fact about asexuality is that it is different from libido (or sexual desire). Asexuality is a sexual orientation that relates to attraction, but asexuals can have either high or low libido, which is not directed at anyone in particular. Also, asexuals can have sex for many reasons that are not related to sexual attraction, such as to please their partners, to relax or for pleasure and they are no less asexuals, but it's also important to mention that the majority of people that identify as a-spec do not include sex in their lives.

Asexuality is a spectrum and the opposite of allosexuality, which refers to people who often experience sexual attraction.

An often unknown label under the asexual umbrella is caedosexual.  This includes people who once identified as allosexual, but later on identified on the asexual spectrum because of trauma. It was feared that inclusion of this flag under asexuality would further feed the prejudice that all asexuals are like this because of  trauma, but this has been disproven. Only caedosexuals are so because of trauma, not the other a-specs.

Now let's see what we know about Kanej. Both Kaz and Inej have gone through horrific experiences in their childhood and puberty respectively, and their resulting traumas are affecting how they engage with their sexualities in their teen years. Their desire to heal fluctuates. Sometimes Kaz thinks that Inej could never be truly his and Inej thinks that they might be better off with their armors intact and at other times Inej appreciates that they have tried to be close and wishes they could try again and Kaz fights his demons in order to hold her hand. Fact is, the caedosexuals I have spoken to have said that Kaz and Inej can choose to work towards separating their traumas from their sexualities in the future, or they can choose not to and they are valid either way. So what could be safely said is that Kanej are likely caedosexuals in SoC + CK timeline, although that could change in the future.

But the discussion of whether Kaz and Inej fall under the asexual spectrum is more complex than that and in the fandom you can often find fans arguing either that they provide much needed representation to asexuals or on the contrary, that they are very eager to heal and have an intimate relationship. But let's not forget that libido is different from attraction and there are many asexuals with high libido, so the question here is what type of attraction do Kaz and Inej experience?

The media that we consume is largely amatonormative, meaning that it assumes that all humans pursue love of a romantic and sexual nature, but a less known fact is that attraction can take many more forms than we were led to believe by such media. Attraction is sexual when a person wants to have sex with another, romantic when they desire to engage in romantic activities, aesthetic when they think someone is beautiful, sensual when they desire non-sexual physical closeness (such as nonromantic cuddles and kisses), platonic when they want to be friends with someone or queerplatonic (alterous) when someone desires a committed relationship with a partner that is in between platonic and romantic in nature. Other types of attraction are familial, emotional, intellectual or spiritual. 

For example, it is quite clear that Inej doesn't feel spiritual attraction towards Kaz's lack of faith in saints, but she does feel intellectual attraction towards his brilliant mind. And though Kaz might cover his feelings under "economic" attraction (joking), the question here is under what type of attraction do Kaz's and Inej's feelings for each other fall under. Fact is, if allosexuals view Kaz and Inej through their lense they can easily think that they feel sexual and romantic attraction for each other, but if asexuals view them from their lense instead, what Kanej feel might very well be queerplatonic, sensual or aesthetic attraction that for one or both of them isn't sexual or romantic in nature. For example some people view Kaz's interest in Imogen as a challenge and his desire to have an intimate connection with Inej as wanting to please her and they argue that Kaz has been "content" on his own for so long, plotting his revenge and Barrel dominion, that he might well be asexual or demisexual. Many other people view Inej's famous line "I'll have you without armor" to be related to trust solely, whereas others view it as being both about intimacy and trust. And let's not forget the many voices that appreciate Kanej for showing how people can love each other deeply even when they don't have sex. The truth is that we don't know for sure where Kanej fall on the spectrum of attraction, the text is beautifully vague in that regard, but the many varied interpretations about Kanej show that what meets the eye is not always a person's inner experience.

To sum up, the one thing that is almost certain about Kaz and Inej is that in book time, their traumas influence their experience of sexuality, likely setting them under the a-spec umbrella as caedosexuals. This may or may not change in the future, depending on their desire and capacity to heal, but Kanej are valid either way. As regards to how Kanej might identify were they to heal from their traumas, many interpretations about the way they feel attraction or lack of it are possible, setting them as either allosexual, demisexual or asexual. The beauty of book Kanej is that they are written in such a subtle way that they provide representation to a wide range of people and that's why we love them so much!

[savethegrishaverse]

Our lovely organizer @rescatedegrishaverse over on Instagram made a uQuiz to figure out "Which Grishaverse Character Are You"? Don't worry, she gave me permission to share it, but you are legally obligated to reblog this with your results /j

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This is amazing to see!!

After an unfortunate delay due to being ill the last few months, the 1001 suns are finally packed up and sent on their way to Netflix in the USA 🎉

The package can be tracked on the Royal Mail website with the tracking code:

EF046490328GB

https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/EF046490328GB

@savethegrishaverse

[savethegrishaverse]

Third Army, here's a message from Jack thanking us for supporting the show! The extract is from an interview conducted by Red Carpet News TV during the What's On Stage Awards. Keep fighting for the best cast ever!!!

[savethegrishaverse]

Just a quick moment, we would like to remind you of all the beautiful things we've accomplished together this year. We would also like to thank you for your motivation, engagement and creativity. Some people might tell you: "This is just a show, let it go" but it's more than a show. It's a community that has been brought together by our common love for the extraordinary characters created by Leigh and put on screen by Eric and Daegan. We never stop fighting!!!

The hashtags part of the edit was created by @geekgal2006 on insta, and the edit itself was created by @dark.raspberry on insta.

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Streaming is the key to success—this week stream Season 1!

We all love to watch Shadow and Bone—it’s the show that brought the Third Army together and the reason we keep fighting to see more of those brilliant characters and book storylines shown on screen. But why is streaming crucial to our strategy?

For a start, showrunner Eric Heisserer has very recently given us confirmation that, for now, Netflix is still our best bet to #SaveShadowAndBone and greenlight the #SixOfCrowsSpinoff. This means it's all the more important to keep streaming Shadow and Bone! So from Apr. 29-May. 5, we need you to stream Season 1 of Shadow and Bone exclusively on Netflix, on repeat!

It's a vital part of our strategy for the following reasons:

- Watching a season at a time, with the volume on, all the way through every episode is the way that Netflix counts their streams. Only watch Season 1 this week, do NOT stream Season 2 for now!

- We need every stream we can to get Shadow and Bone trending again. A high number of streams shows Netflix hard data that proves there continues to be demand and passion for this show even this long after the release of Season 2. And demand means money for Netflix.

- Due to the way things are handled in the show business, Netflix is still our best bet for renewal. Using their own platform to show them that we mean business is one of the best steps we can continue to take for this campaign. Or should I say, what business, Netflix?

[savethegrishaverse]

If you haven't already, go consider voting for JustJared's poll on "Which LGBT+ Character Is The Best Of 2024?"

You can vote daily, so check in often to see how the poll is fairing!

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If you didn't already know, in Paris Empire conventions held its third "A Storm Of Crows and Shadows" convention! And quite a few of our campaign organizers got to attend! At ASOCAS3 we were able to meet so many fellow fans, hand out pins and goodies, and show off all the projects we have been working on! It's truly an honor to get to be in a fandom space like this, and develop so many friendships and connections based on this common interest! Thank you all for fighting with us, even if you couldn't be at ASOCAS3! And hopefully we will all meet again at ASOCAS4!!

[savethegrishaverse]

Pankhuri Bhutani, the journalist who coined the term 'Third Army,' has graciously given us the chance to interview her. Read on for an insightful conversation, where we learn what she thinks about our campaign, what it was like interviewing the cast, what she thinks comes next for us, and more!

Here's a compilation of her interview in our newsletter issues, in order, with Questions in bold and Pankhuri's answers in text;

"It all came to me when I was reading the Shadow and Bone trilogy. There were mentions of First Army and Second Army. I was a bit confused at first trying to understand just which army included the Grishas and the Otkazat'syas. Then I perused through the Six of Crows duology as well and had a better idea.

Q&A with Pankhuri Bhutani: Third Army origin story - What inspired you to come up with a name for the fans campaigning to #SaveShadowAndBone and greenlight the #SixOfCrowsSpinoff?

One of the most memorable things about a fandom for me is the name bestowed upon them. While Shadow and Bone fans have been embodying different personas—some of them calling themselves “The Crows,” some “The Summoners,” reading the books, I genuinely believed the fandom needed an official name that amalgamated the diverse abilities of the fandom and unified their interests.

And that's when the idea of "Third Army" struck me. An army combined of both the lovers and fans of the original trilogy, as well as the iconic Six of Crows duology, alongside the King of Scars duology and all the chronicles affiliated with the Grishaverse, "Third Army" represents a union of all the fellow Grishaverse fans.

Somewhere along the lines, I did imagine the fandom fighting together as an army. And I was struck with the name "Third Army." I added it to the article I crafted for the billboard launch, and I guess the rest is history. "

Since you have followed the campaign from the beginning, what's your opinion on the different projects undertaken so far? And comparing it to other fan campaigns, is there anything you would have done differently?

To be blatantly honest, I'm not aware of a lot of other fandom campaigns. But I fairly think this is by far one of the strongest contenders out there in terms of a campaign initiated by fans with such monumental strength.

I don't think there would have been anything I would've done differently or quite distinct to what has been happening had I been involved in a wonderful fan campaign like this. But I will definitely request and wish to see more cosplays and other creative work! All of you are so immensely talented!

There have been a lot of talks about the show, and even though the future seems uncertain for now, the hard work and dedication of the fandom will probably never be forgotten.

What made you decide to go with Third Army as a name?

When going through the fandom and the petitions, a lot of people claimed themselves to be a Crow or a Darkling fan. But the fact that all these souls came together to fight for one goal made me believe there should be a united name that could be showcased and witnessed at the forefront of the campaign.

I knew "First Army" and "Second Army" being a part of the Grishaverse world, so I contemplated as to what or who might be the "Third Army" if that was ever a possibility and the first element that emerged into my mind was the fandom. The fandom is the Third Army.

What has been your favorite initiative by the campaign so far? Is there anything you'd like to see in the future?

That's a good question. The fundraiser for the billboard just showed how many people believed in the project to such an extent that they were actively ready to pitch in their own money for the launch.

I do not have a favorite initiative because I believe that even if one of the campaigns is initiated by someone with the best of their interests, it already goes into my favorite book. So, all of them?

I'm not aware of all the initiatives currently being partaken within this specific campaign but I absolutely love seeing people cosplay and talk about their favorite book characters.

The petition as well. I just checked and it has over 200,000 signatures. That's a lot!

What impact do you think having a name to unite fans has had on the campaign?

All of the popular fandoms have a highly recognizable name. Swifties, Arinators, Barbz, Army (BTS). We say the name, and the project/artist's face subconsciously appears in our mind.

You instantly know the artist and the project by the fandom's name. For instance, what comes to your mind when I say the words Potterheads, Half-Bloods/Demigods, Ringers, Thronies?

Potterheads for the fascinating world of Harry Potter, Half-Bloods/Demigods for the Percy Jackson fans, Ringers for lovers of The Lord of The Rings franchise, and so on. The name instantly affiliates a fandom with the project.

I know it's a very strange thing to say, but to me personally, a fandom also sometimes feels like a citizenship. As if you're an official member of the particular fictional world.

You have interviewed several Shadow and Bone cast members. Can you tell us a bit about what that was like? How did you prepare for those interviews, and are there any anecdotes you can share that didn't make it into the final published versions for brevity's sake?

I do believe fandom names are very impactful as it is showcased at the forefront of the project and affiliates the love and passion of all the souls who admire the work of the cast and the crew. And that's exactly what the Third Army has been doing so far!

It was a surreal experience.

There wasn't any question that I believe was left out from my interviews. Everything is out there just the way the initial interviews were conducted. It was an honor to have had a conversation with such phenomenal people. All of them were very kind and very insightful regarding their experience on the project.

I was given access to the screeners of the second season, and I based my questions on things I really wanted to ask the creatives about their performance.

At that time, there weren't any interviews out since the second season had not been launched yet, so I crafted the questions I believed I really wanted to know more about at that specific moment and hopefully ask some novel questions that weren't already thrown their way previously.

As a journalist, what's your opinion on the media’s reaction and coverage of our campaign and the cancellation?

It's actually quite a lot. Especially for a fandom initiative, I do believe a lot of phenomenal journalists and media platforms have conveyed a plethora of coverage pertaining to the unfortunate cancellation.

Everyone affiliated with this project, be it the cast, crew or even the fandom have showcased massive strength and opened up a potential turmoil for several decision-makers, further forcing them to take a second look. Just shows how impactful a united fandom can be.

As we speak, there are still many more such significant pieces coming to light.

Which part of the campaign do you think has had the biggest impact on visibility and public perception so far?

For me as an outsider, I definitely noticed the petition and the billboards that were launched in Los Angeles and London. Those were the two that come to my mind, but I've seen some posts about origami and fan-books too, which seems so kind!

I also notice so many beautiful fan cosplays, artwork, book posts and other impeccable creative endeavors that people and fans like to immerse themselves into using the world of Grishaverse. That's so cool!

Showrunner Eric Heisserer recently attended his studio meetings for Shadow and Bone wearing a Third Army badge. Coincidentally, our Discord server also has a permanent "Third Army" role for all the members. Also, Jessie Mei Li mentioned to fans at a recent convention that they absolutely loved the Third Army name! How do you feel knowing that the name you coined and bestowed upon the fandom has gotten such acknowledgements?

Oh, wow. That's so interesting. That's something I definitely didn't know! I was made aware of the Third Army badges being used during one of the conventions but not about the other lovely acknowledgements. That's a massive milestone for the term.

Very grateful for that, but I really do believe it should be the entire fandom getting the credit—not me. I'm just a journalist who came up with a name that I believed aligned more with the fandom of this amazing fantasy project.

I have personally witnessed the dedication and immense passion each and every fan has committed to the show and its hopeful renewal, so I think we should be celebrating such an established fanbase and the success of a massive campaign like this. Thank you to everyone who used the name! And all the best for your future! Hopefully, we get to hear some good news really soon! And thank you for having me!

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