ok I finished my rewatch here is the S1 recap brought to you by my brain juices having been put in a blender after that. I will tell you guys, rewatching S1 after watching S2 is so incredibly rewarding this show is just. really good!! it is!! now here are my various disorganized thoughts:
shannon's death scene is so much more hard-hitting on a rewatch. the way when she's being carried she asks for mary then reaches for her is so incredibly intimate she's surrounded by her sisters but she wants mary at her side and the ensuing goodbyes are very much heart-wrenching and there is NO way to read shannon/mary as not romantic especially since we later get hints from everyone that it was pretty much an open secret? everyone knew their relationship was special. props to the cast for delivering such an emotional scene that comes this early in the show (the tear falling from beatrice's face to land on shannon's as she kisses her forehead and says "I'll miss you, sister" is just. Cinéma. Filmé)
the way it is stressed time and again that resurrection is something the halo provides specifically for ava. there's also the way there's a direct parallel with areala bc they're both the only warrior nuns to have received the halo AGAINST their wills and I think you could say resurrection happened for areala too which is very interesting and very neat (the way these two bookend the cycle of warrior nun being fed into the church killing machine)
the way it is basically textual that vincent was the drunk driver that caused ava's accident and that is INSANE. they're both at the center of how the trajectory of their lives was fundamentally rewritten and they're both the cause that sets them on their path. vincent becomes her father figure and develops genuine affection for her and he fills a place in her life that has always been empty before and this really sets the scene for their S2 interactions.
on the topic of vincent there are so many scenes where he stands around in apparent deep meditation and comes afterwards with answers or a set course and those are literally the moments he gets his visions/messages from adriel and it happens right under our noses and we're none the wiser!! you only catch it on rewatch
ava's bisexuality is hinted at so early like literally the first person to hit on her and offer her a drink is a girl!! and then when she escapes the cat's cradle she says "I'm gonna make love to" pointed look at a girl "someone" like it was there right at the beginning
JC is the best person to have a first lay with! I am a person who subscribes to ship having to be each other's true loves not necessarily their first loves and JC was safe and harmless enough for ava to explore things that were denied her in her past life (sexuality, desire, infatuation) bc in the grand scheme of things JC does not matter. and ava subconsciously KNOWS this. ava is never 100% vulnerable or open with JC and not just bc of, you know, the supernatural things happening around and to her constantly but even the most basic information abt herself she withholds for a LONG time. JC is very interesting thematically bc he's what ava thinks freedom looks like and what she thinks she wants but absolutely not what she needs (which is basically what she explores all throughout S1). He's an uprooted vagrant person not beholden to anyone but his own whims but that means he never develops any significant bonds there's no purpose and no real belonging with him. Hell, he leaves his partners of 18 months for ava who he met a week ago. His entire character is based on leaving whereas ava wants, deep down, someone who will stay for and with her. all throughout.
the vincent monologue at the end of episode 1 hits different on a rewatch "prophets are hard to come by in these times" and he went and fashioned himself into one!! this whole things has been him trying to find a type of salvation that the church does not offer him!! especially since he's haunted by who he was in the past and when he joined the OCS he thought maybe this darkness is a demon that can be exorcised and confronted that it was in fact all him he wanted a miracle powerful enough to banish that very darkness. adriel probably sensed that vulnerability in him and came to him in visions using that to get him onboard
mary's whole s1 arc is basically that tough action guy whose wife gets killed and he goes on a rampage to find out who did it and why. she's a female john wick. which. again. I am puzzled by the fact that shannon and mary was apparently not written to read as romantic?? my dearest people you WROTE it that way. you tapped into the romance tropes.
lilith is somehow both an eldest daughter (derogatory) and a middle child (derogatory). and also a bitch and a delight and I love her so much
JC. repeatedly. and I say. REPEATEDLY. offers ava moments of vulnerability where he opens up abt himself and his life and ava offers NOTHING in return. ava is extremely guarded even as she wants him and only offers up her story when she has to and even then it's mostly to distract him from asking questions abt who the people after her are. and that's juxtaposed with how ava, after that very painful moment with mother superion and being offered comfort from beatrice, legitimately opens up to beatrice almost instantly there. Beatrice hugs her once and ava is like I spent 12 years not feeling anything below my chest I didn't kill myself I have a very complicated relationship with nuns and thus catholicism bc I wasn't treated well like the contrast there is mindblowing.
bringing me to my next point: ava instinctively: 1/knows beatrice is safe, 2/knows she is safe with beatrice, 3/ wants to trust beatrice SO BAD. and she wants intensely, for beatrice to believe her and (then in the back end of season once they're paired up) to believe in her
ava fleeing the OCS is done so well bc in 24hrs she gets put through mother superion's psychological warfare, then she hears abt the previous halobearer who I'm sure she was picturing as someone of a certain age then sees the picture and realizes shannon died young, then she goes visiting the murals of the cat's cradle and all the warrior nuns are pictured young and fighting demons, constantly, AND THEN she reads that part abt how areala died her second death YOUNG too. she gets hit with the reality of this fate, the danger of it, the certainty of a death that'll come sooner rather than later as she's appointed humanity's champion while having to fight horrors beyond a normal human's comprehension constantly. ofc my girl bailed. it's all done so very well everything that has to do with ava's arc is insanely well written
jillian calls beatrice "a petite member of the clergy" when she sees the footage of beatrice taking out an entire security team and that is SO FUCKING FUNNY. imagine calling beatrice petite to her face
on that topic beatrice's hallway fight gets projected to a room full of journalists and I am obsessed with that. did she go viral on the internet were there memes abt ninja nuns going feral
all throughout when something happens that pushes against the Norms and Rules beatrice will question it and it can come off as cold but really it's bc Beatrice strives on structure!! if she has to step outside the bounds of it, it better be righteous and worth it. like when she asks if vincent is intent on not giving the halo to lilith and keeping it within ava and he says yes her first reflex is but lilith is next in line. but the politics. this isn't to say beatrice was FOR killing ava like the moment she hears it could kill her she's NOT down to take it away from her but everytime the Order of Things is challenged Beatrice has to be walked through as to why. and if it's WORTH it. which oh boy the way this ties to her S2 arc makes me slightly insane bc ava comes barreling through that structure and beatrice says yes. she is worth upending my whole world for anyway-
Which is NOT to say that beatrice will take well to any kind of authority you actually have to earn her respect otherwise beatrice has. absolutely. zero chill. the tone she takes with duretti who's the fucking CARDINAL. from VATICAN. a pope HOPEFUL?? she is polite yes but curt and cold and very much flirting with impertinence like duretti tries to seduce her into his clique the way he did lilith and it fails astronomically and she basically tells him to go fuck himself?? to A CARDINAL?? DIRECT OVERSIGHT OVER THE OCS?? FROM THE VATICAN??? "you may always count on me to remain faithful. to God." and did you call him a power hungry whore too did you give him the finger beatrice???????
anyway I miss this show so fucking much
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journey to the west book one, thoughts
so this post is going to be really messy and jumbled, i will take my thoughts one chapter at a time. since this post contains all the chapters in book one imma but everything under the cut and warn ya'll that this is HELLA long.
ok so, before we get into it i just wanna let you guy's know that if the first 13 chapters seem like they have less it's because i only really started to do this on chapter 14 and had to go back through chapters 1 - 13 and look at the notes and tabes i left to gage my reaction to them. some of them have a bit more than others and some have like none at all.
that being said enjoy the absolute crack house that is my no cotext thoughts of Journey to the West volume one!
Chapter 1
monkey is born!!
and he's already being impulsive...
calling him the handsome monkey king is gonna go straight to his head
lier! you are a certified shit disturber and you know it!
ohhhhh so thats how he got the name Sun Wukong, gotcha gotcha
Chapter 2
the dao art seems real complex
love how they casually have the way to immortality written in this book lol
teaching a suicidaly impulsive monkey how to shape shift and fly wasn't a bad idea at all!
he's showing off- of course he is-
aaaaaand he got kicked out for showing off! idiot-
oh damn- thats actually sadder than i thought it would be...
HE CALLS THEM LITTLE ONES!!! CUUUTE!!!!
HOW DARE!?!?!
Chapter 3
holy hell....
op much???
not a monkey scaring a dragon ffs
he is just a menace this entire page! LAMO
GOD DAMN-
THEY WANT HIM OUT SO FUCKING BAD XDDDD
bruh-
ooooooop foreshadowing alert
THATS BULLSHIT!! THEIR EXAGERATING THE HELL OUT OF IT!!!
oh- oh he really fucked up the life and death cycles- damn...
smart!!!!
he was thinking of paying a visit to heaven himself?? without an invite?? oh- that would not have ended well-
Chapter 4
here we go! first rampage through heaven!!
deva
NEZHA!!!!
ITS GIVING "who's this sassy lost kid?" VIBES XD
Chapter 5
does he not have a reputation yet???
Wukong is in so much fucking trouble oh god....
idiot
going to war over wine is a very Wukong thing to do-
Chapter 6
when did Nezha get here?
shapeshifter duels man... they be confusing af
oop he got caught-
Chapter 7
they seem to have forgotten what the meaning of immortal is
oop- he's being refered to as a monster instead of a king by the narrator- thats how you know he's pissed beyond all belief...
OH HES MAD MAD
HOLY FUCK
"i have to go exorcise a demon to defend the throne." pg 193
"he ligit just wrote "sun wukong was here" oh the fucking finger lmao
man... calling the banquet that is just salt in the wound.... really it is...
Chapter 8
sandy's got green skin, red hair, noted
it's pigsy -n-
he flirted with Chang'e..... this bitch
i already can't fucking stand him
Chapter 9
so he does have parents! lets see if they ever pop up again-
WHAT!?!?! WHY!?!!
Chapter 10
i didn't take in a sing thing that this chapter sad.... why is it even here-
Chapter 11
no thoughts head empty, why are we still on this? is there any plot relevance or???
Chapter 12
awwww their cute
good for him, coming from such humble beginnings
wow- ok thats kinda a really great honour to be called brother by the emperor
Chapter 13
lots of scenery! neat!
wft....
oop divine intervention o'clock
abuse???? hello??? what the actual fuck sir???
COWARD!!!
i am going to get so sick of him so quickly....
WUKONG!?!?!?!!!!! YER BACK!!!!!! YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHH
Chapter 14
wukong- bud... YOUR FUCKING FILTHY
yell that your not lying makes you less believable
HE'S NAKED?!?! OFC HE IS
brutal.... nice
ight show off, keep rambling about the shit you can do.
gay? /j but fr- i get that a naked monkey coming to your door may be a cause for concern but there was no reason to disrespect him like that-
he has a son??? when???
gross man- like i get you were trapped under a mountain- but gross
brutal... nice
EXCUSE YOU WHAT?!?! NAH, NAH HE DID NOT
A FEW WORDS?!?! FAM YOU READ HIM FOR A WHOLE PARAGRAPH SHUT YOUR MOUTH
thats not teaching tripitaka- a lecture is NOT teaching
GUAINYIN IS HERE!!! oh... Guanyin is here...
oh... fuck...
why is his name just 'Pilgrim' like i get it but i also don't... idk
oh he's gonna do it out of spite now for being called a bogus immortal by the dragon king
that entire painting is just of two gay lovers putting on shoes and getting immortality for it
well, he actually is really convincing, i can see why Wukong went back after those words...
yeah i'd be taken aback too bud
.......YOU COULD FINISH THE JOURNEY RN.... but he won't, that defeats the entire porpoise of it all
THIS BITCH!!!! I WILL ACTUALLY KILL HIM
HE ONLY STOPPED CAUSE I WAS AFRIAD THE FILLET WOULD BREAK
ON GOD I WILL THROW HANDS WITH A MONK I WILL
HE STARTED UP AGAIN?!??!!? STOP!!!!
OH OH! so you stop when you see how the pain is LITTERALLY TEARING HIS BODY APART! fuck you
HE ACTUALLY TRIED TO KILL HIM!?!?!?!? oh my god- i mean.... jesus.....
yes. its a great idea to go to the south sea and beat up the goddess who did this to you... super smart /s
all thoughts of disobedience and rebellion? no shot
Chapter 15
ah yes, lets start the chapter with Wukong hauling ass to save Tripitaka
Jesus them some powerful eyes
omg SHUT UP
YES YELL AT HIM WUKONG!!!
namby-pamby??
lawless lizard XD
harsh
they talk about him like he's not the son of a dragon king...
OH SHES PISSED AT HIM
so he's called 'third prince Jade dragon' gotcha
he's a fucking idiot
why are you being such a baby all of a sudden??
neat, he got the get out of danger free leaves now
if Rue had been in this part of the journey she would have been pretty interested in that
plot armour be like-
impressive
more divine intervention! oh my god-
so now it's early spring. jesus that means its almost been a year
Chapter 16
i don't know wether to be annoyed or what- were only a page into this chapter
"he may be ugly" BITCH WHAT
yeah... ight... i'd be annoyed with him too
somesones butt hurt that hes oooooold~
everyone is starting to get on my nerves like jesus-
wow the murder plots are real
he askin' for favours like he didn't just beat their asses 500 years ago
he's a little arsonist
LMAO UNO REVERSE BITCH
damn- he's already on shockingly good terms with him
HE SAVED YOU AND YOUR GONING TO PUNISH HIM FOR IT!?!?!
I'M GOING TO THROW HANDS WITH A MONK ISTG
and after all that your response is still murder??? really????
goddman.... he so mad he defiled a corpse- that wasn't very buddhist of you tripitaka
Chapter 17
not tripitaka using wukongs temper against others-
jesus christ man
"thunder god mouth" XDDD best way to describe it 10/10
THE THREATS
XDD the arrogance!! he called the demon "my son" before starting a lecture XDD
he gets annoyed when people call him the BanHorsePlague now, thats so fucking funny to me
he's so real for that though, i'd wanna eat in the middle of a fight too
he is actually a menace to humans goddamn
HE REDUCED THE DEMON TO A BURGER
love how their calling him 'old carcass'
there is a lot of seemingly nice senery in this chapter
how'd they know all of that just by seeing a goddamn meat patty on the side of the road???
this is gonna be a pattern isn't it-
conversations with these two go no where but damn they do be giving me L O R E
he's being so nice now lmao
wft....
ok *fine* she gets a pass but jesus
GRAPHIC
jesus wukong
HA got'em
"don't start trouble again" "i won't" LIES
Chapter 18
oooooh this is the pigsy chapter!!! i can't wait to see some ass be beat!
i- i don't think i like these people...
Wukong really just said don't judge a book by it's cover
why does he always say "your poor monk" it's grinding my gears
"tell me everything!" .... "from ancient times-"
his surmname meant hog....
i can only picture that one manga panel in jjk where Yuta is dragging Yuji along lmao
ancient toilet humour?
"where are you going darling" he says as he returns to his original form
love that wukong is described and then called "virtually a living thunder god"
"i'll follow you to the ends of the earth" (menacingly)
Chapter 19
why do they all have caves?
it is pigsy
damn- Wukong's reading him
are they really throwing celestial law at one another??
he's bragging... really?
ah yes, a summary of the first seven chapters
he really said set your house on fire and follow me
man's really stripped him of all he was worth and then dragged him by the ear... he's like a mom...
HE'S REFERED TO AS IDIOT! oh this just got so much better
lmao both of them going "wine? oh we still drink that"
Wukong admitted to being a light weight XD
pigsy, trying to say a heart felt goodbye, the other two; hurry the fuck up
"you know him and not me? what kind of fuckery is this?"
"he insulted me and the pig?!" "how?" *proceeds to tell tripitaka exactly how he and pigsy were insulted*
Chapter 20
just by the title alone i know imma start to have beef with pigsy
they still call him idiot! YES
it's pigsy getting bullied hours!!!
that- that was a very round about way of calling him a dick Wukong
annnnnd he's boasting again...
huh? flying bricks, talking pots, and dancing tiles... interesting...
this old man has balls
"fix your ugliness" DUUUUUDE
i'm about to highlight each and every time Pigsy is refered to as Idiot! shits too funny!
ahhhhh pigsy's first kill steal!
OH SHIT NVM
dude just ripped off his own skin! what a power move!
jesus-
and we get to the first time tripitaka is truely captured!
"for you culinary pleasure" XDDDD why is that so funny?
this guy's actually quite smart for that
damn...
good wisdom wukong
i love how wukong is so often describes as "the one with the thunder god mouth and hairy face"
he's got a good sense to be this scared of him
monkey-monk?? (why is that so funny to me???)
he just told wukong he was a 'buy one get one free sale'!! AND HE'S THE FREE BIT XDDDDDD
KILL STEAL!!! +1 for butality, pigsy's score is now -99 points!
Wukong actually let him have credit for the kill? goddamn- is that character growth i see?
Chapter 21
no he does not!
Aqua man?????
Really?? *face palms*
why does he insist on calling himself grandpa?
is he about to disapline him like a grandpa too??
Coward
the divine wind of Samādhi? like the Samādhi fire? NEAT!!!
more divine intervention i see
the trend of calling pigsy an idiot continues and i am thriving in this enviornment
can he be any less annoying?
*crybaby beings to play on loop in my head*
idiot
it was the fucking gold star of venus
very humble wukong
lawless ape! XDDD
love that offending the great sage is quite possibly a crime punishable by death now
Chapter 22
its sandy time!!!
wouldn't that be qualifies as an inland sea?!
i don't know how to feel about that entire passage
cloud surfing lessons
he called Wukong his assistant- oh boy if he had heard that...
he can be there in half an hour?! wild...
sandy is aquired
Chapter 23
still love that his nickname is practically idiot
please- stop refering to your staff as a rod- i can't take reading "you'll get a ___ from this Huge Rod!" anymore T-T
you fucking idiots- your banter has now left the master stranded and he's gonna get captured by demons!
serves you right
Wu kong being so shocked he actually acted poliet?
Unreal and nonexisting- well those are some red falgs if i've ever seen em in this book
SHIT JUST GOT SO MUCH FUNNIER OMFG
she just keeps going!? dude- please- how can someone have so much
omg- this is all a test of character isn't it...
tripitaka; wukong you stay! Wukong; the fuck you mean me!? make pigsy stay
the entier latter half of this page pisses me off. fuck you pigsy
OH EW! SEVEAR ICK- GROSS
I FUCKING HATE YOU YOU GREEDY WHORE
I KNEW IT WAS A TEST OF CHARACTER!!!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!!
Chapter 24
serves him fucking right
i agree with Wukong, leave the pig and go
holy hell they haven't even covered one tenth of the distance yet?
this is the chapter that that one monkey king animated movie was about.
to cowardly to do it himself so he's gotta wait for Wukong lmao
thus begins an entire two-ish pages of Wukong stealing fruit again
Wukong makes me nevious frfr
if it were so embarissing maybe you shouldn't have done it in the first place
Chapter 25
wukong.... buddy.... no.....
good plan boy's
dude can pick (break?) locks.... good to know
why do you fight first and ask questions later....
he escaped thrice, got catpured thrice, kept playing tricks..... dude just wouldn't fucking stop....
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-chinhands- Lamond and Sven for character thoughts!
my best friends???? bet. i’ll enjoy this, ty
Lamond
What my Arisen thinks of him:
Syl wasn’t sure about him at first, almost like he got a bad impression, but not quite. Pawns kept insisting that Lamond might have something to share, should he get the drink he likes, which knowing their ability to travel to other worlds, means Lamond will have something to share should he get the drink he wants. Eventually besides the training he receives from the former Arisen, he got a solid friend. Lamond makes him laugh at times it’s too hard for Syl to even smile. And, Syl absolutely spotted the scar before Lamont told him he was formerly Arisen, Syl pretended to be surprised… It wouldn’t do well to let the man know he was staring, okay. Sylvas would sometimes go to the hot springs, only so he can stop to spend some time with Lamond. He appreciates the skills he taught him, and holds onto every affable advice the man says. Like every former Arisen he came to know, Syl hopes to make him proud.
What my Pawn thinks of him:
Winterheart met the Warfarer in multiple other worlds before her own Arisen’s, and she was eager for Sylvas to learn from him. So she might have hinted to him about the illicit means of which he can acquire some Newt Liquor and some locations until he finally learned the vocation. Beyond that, any friend of Syl’s is a friend of hers, and Lamond particularly is quite friendly towards her. She’s curious about him in regards of him being a former Arisen, even more than Syl is, but it isn’t like her to nose around asking questions. She feels concerned for the man sometimes, and at different points did she worry he’d be a bad influence on Syl, he isn’t. Winnie really enjoyed the times he travelled with them, for she rarely gets another warrior in the party and she has ideas. She appreciates the things she learned from him quite a lot, and thinks he’s one of the best maisters.
What he thinks of my Arisen:
Lamond quite enjoys finding a new way to mess with each new Arisen every few decades, Syl was no different. With every visit Lamond’s absent heart grew fonder, for Syl can give as good as he takes whether it came to quips or sparring. Developed some love akin to what one would have for a little brother, though he wouldn’t dare say the lad reminds him of himself. Mostly because it isn’t true, as Arisen… he had only wanted to get it over with and get his heart back, the singleminded focus on his charge had cost him many things, land lead to failure. Now if Syl was as singleminded, he wouldn’t visit him so often, so there’s a feeling of relief every time. He tries to be a bit of a mentor on things beyond battle, but he’s miserably bad at lecturing, and Syl seems to hardly need it, he’s got a good sense of duty already. Lamond thinks there’s nothing he can do to push away the gnawing worry, so he lets him be.
What he thinks of my Pawn:
He likes Winnie, she’s got… more soul than he remembers pawns having from his experience. It isn’t weird or worrying at all, oh no. He admires her skill and thinks her a very respectable warrior, often he teases Sylvas by saying he should be more like her, but Syl simply doesn’t like a heavy sword. He thinks she’s perfect as Syl’s companion pawn, from times he’s traveled with them. Lamond thinks Syl is very smart to always try his best to listen to the strategies and plans she proposes. Most of all, he thinks she’s a good friend.
Bonus: An extra headcanon I have about him:
He loves helping the Arisen after him, it gives him a purpose, and it may stop them from ending up like him. Though deep down, oh it would be nice for one of them to stick around forever.
SVEN
What my Arisen thinks of him:
Sven was the first friend Syl made in this new life, and in a way, the first (human) friend ever. He was happy to help him, and then very happy to run into him in the castle, of course it wasn’t a surprise that he was queen regent Disa’s son. That fact never deterred Sylvas, it might have urged him to befriend Sven harder. His trust in Sven was oddly unquestionable, but then Sven was helping him and Captain Brant, his trust was in the right place. Syl visits Sven a lot, and a lot, Sven is just so enthusiastic about Syl’s stories and he loves talking to him. They’d talk and talk until Sven forgets his urging for Syl to leave before it gets dark, only he’d remember once it gets dark. At the very least, sneaking out of Sven’s chambers at night has enhanced Syl’s ability at sneaking around the castle. In hindsight, Sylvas wonders why it took him so long to realize he was in love with the regentkin. Perhaps it’s the lack of a heart beating in his chest, Sven was patient til Sylvas braved a confession.
What my Pawn thinks of him:
Oh, nice enough lad. Though no one can be good enough for Sylvas, and Winnie believes that just because Sven wouldn’t hurt a fly doesn’t mean he can’t break her Arisen’s heart. Their relationship has cost her a lot of worrying over Syl, staying out of her sight too long behind the castle gates, once or twice he had entered through the gates and walked out of the gaol escape route after getting imprisoned. Alas, he would afterwards speak to her with a big wide grin, and at times, that’s all she needs to see.
What he thinks of my Arisen:
Befriending Sylvas was an act of rebellion from him as well. Of course, he didn’t know it at first, but it’s the fact that he didn’t push him away after finding out. And why would he? More reason why he shouldn’t, like helping Captain Brant uncover his mother’s plots.. He would ever hold the memory of his first meeting with Syl dearly, in a way he was too Sven’s first friend. Even if Syl knew who Sven is, he didn’t help or befriend him for his title at all. Sven tries to observe him closely through the stories he told, to see if he’s right for the throne or not. He is, undoubtedly. As were Sven’s feelings towards him, which he tried to push away a lot harder than Sylvas did, albeit he fell first. The last thing he ever wants is to put Syl in danger, and sabotage their plans, over feelings. Once they were out in the open, in the privacy of his chambers, it was a lot less difficult to deal with.
What he thinks of my Pawn:
Sven hadn’t many opportunities to get to know Winterheart well, and it isn’t at all because she avoids him, oh no. So from stories, he admires her and appreciates her for being such good partner to Sylvas.
Bonus: An extra headcanon I have about him:
Sven is a big gift giver, almost every little trinket he gets his hands on is given to someone he holds dear… even his mother. He really treasures the gifts Syl or anyone else brings him.
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