#tsbs theories

[llamaisllama777]

EAPS THEORY: Solar Flare and F.C. will kill Rusty/Ruin's Monty

Allow me to explain why I think this...

After today's episode of EAPS, it's clear that Rusty is a point of contention for everyone and with the reveal that the reason Charlie turned Eclipse into a baby was cause Ruin, (I assumed) asked her to turn Eclipse into a baby to buy himself more time to find a way to save Rusty practically dooming everyone else just to save one guy.

Look, I get that Ruin wants to save Rusty, I want him to save him too, but if they can't, they HAVE to put him down. They have to get rid of the virus. Eclipse's plan will work, but Ruin won't let them use it cause Rusty will die.

They maybe have two months before the virus completely takes over, maybe one in Eclipse's case, but everyone's lives are at stake!

And Ruin...

Doesn't care! Or he cares but is too blinded by love to think of the consequences.

So, we have

-A virus that will drive them all insane in two months

-Ruin sabotaging Eclipse practically dooming everyone

-Ruin's cure not working

-And Eclipse is so close to crashing out it's scary.

So, what are they to do?

Simple...

Kill Rusty.

If they get rid of Rusty, they can use Eclipse's cure without hurting Rusty cause he'll already be dead 😃

Solar Flare has already taken on Rusty and maybe would have won if not for Ruin getting in his way.

F.C. is hunting down Rusty.

The two should team up to take down Rusty behind Ruin and Eclipse's back. The team is torn and cannibalizing themselves cause of Rusty's presence.

(Heck, that's probably what Afton wants)

And Solar Flare is the most logical person on the team. He sees Rusty as a variable, and he's a variable that needs to be removed.

Solar Flare knows how to fight.

F.C. probably does too.

Rusty is old and... rusty, he can't take them both.

Solar Flare and F.C. will kill Rusty to remove the variable so Eclipse can use his cure, and they'll all be saved.

Yes, it will hurt Ruin.

Yes, it's not a perfect solution.

But it's the only solution.

I can see Ruin yelling at Solar Flare saying, "Why?! Why did you do that?!"

And Solar Flare responding, "Your love for your Monty blinded you. You had Charlie turn Eclipse into a baby to buy time for your cure. We need one now. We couldn't have waited. Your love for your Monty would have doomed us."

Ruin, pushing past Solar Flare, "At least I know how to love! Unlike you... infernal machine."

Cue sadness.

No matter the outcome...

No one is gonna be happy here.

But hey, that's just a theory...

A EAPS THEORY!

Thanks for reading!

[piowasthere]

can they please stop giving artistic ideas when i absolutely do not have the time to do them, but i will anyway at the cost of my sleep?

anyway Goth Earth

legit in love w/ this design i just came up w/ it on the spot but i vibe w/ it sm lol

wanted to play w/ sum color pallets as well cuz i adore muted colors like that i think it came out pretty neat

[immortaledd]

ECLIPSE’S IMMUNITY? HEH. THE STAR!

I KNOW WHY ECLIPSE ISN’T BEING AFFECTED. EDD’S TEAPS RANT / THEORY

WORST PART ABOUT REMAKING A BLOG? LOSING YOUR OLD FUCKING RANTS. BUCKLE UP, I HAVE TO RE-EXPLAIN THIS. If you understand all the background context already, feel free to skip to the SECOND big red text!

Eclipse MIGHT still be soul bonded with The Star, and that is the exact reason he’s not reacting to the virus like anyone else. It’s EXTREMELY important to theorize about this because DAVIS WENT THROUGH A LOOTT OF UNNECESSARY WORK TO HIGHLIGHT “HEY! THESE AREN’T NORMAL SYMPTOMS.”

The Star isn’t active, he can’t use his powers - not because they diminished, but because he’s not in his original dimension. That doesn’t make the Star useless, it just takes away its power, and the ability for Eclipse to use magic.

Allow me to take you back, to OLD, OLD tsams. 2022.

Background Context:

If anyone wants to go hunting for these quotes to fact check, go for it. I just don’t have the episodes on hand.

Moon and Eclipse’s Singularity

Pre-split Sun + Moon. Eclipse doesn’t exist because Eclipse is Moon. I am coming to realize not many people acknowledge that. Most believe Eclipse is killcode, this is misinformation. He is only PART of killcode. He, in Moon’s code, is identified as “Malice” or “Moon’s Malice”. He is a personality trait, which is why his personality was so cramped and underdeveloped through V1. Because his code was so bare in separation, Sun’s code rubbed off on him giving him his body.

Birth of the Neuton Star

Moon discusses with other characters that the Star is essentially linked to the first person who uses it. They, and The Star, create a bond that can’t be severed. This, theoretically and by pure technicality, would’ve been Moon pre-split. That means Eclipse was present. They found the Star, a bare piece of energy, and added onto it with THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE that made it a wieldable weapon.

HOWEVER, because of Moon’s lack-of ‘Star Power Incidents’ as far as I’ve seen, this means the Star wasn’t used upon creation. Instead, it was used by the first person who truly got their hands on it…Eclipse. By Moon’s logic, Eclipse is now bonded to the Star in a way that cannot be severed.

The Star is a repeating prophecy. It will be reborn over and over again over the course of a millennium or so. It will not have a full physical form after destruction, but Star Power itself is in everything and cannot be removed. Like the existence of existing itself. The Neuton Star (as Moon originally names it) will always be built upon and used. This is why Astrals exist, to protect that Star and keep it from the wrong hands.

Eclipse’s False Victory

2023-2024, Eclipse wins. He has the Star, he discovers and labels The Astrals, then after rotting by himself, he decides he doesn’t care anymore. Instead, he decides to let himself die. Until - he has an unexplained vision. A vision that Lunar will cause an Armageddon. He becomes desperate to warn, overtaken by a new purpose as he gets lured straight into an unneeded death trap.

Eclipse’s Death

Eclipse is obliterated. Moon, Solar, and Sun use a satellite to airstrike Eclipse and send him, and the Star, into oblivion. Eclipse reunites with Solar Flare in a place between life and death. Solar Flare reassures him it is over, there’s nothing left to do. Eclipse refuses at first, but slowly melts into frustration and regret.

Solar Flare walks off to enjoy death.

Eclipse stays.

This is important. Because he didn’t ever fully die.

Additional “Rocky-Road Idea”

We don’t actually know if the Star’s been obliterated. I say this because in the beginning of The Star’s existence, it was given to Montgomery Gator. At the time, Monty tried to break it and destroy it in every way possible. This included a BLACK HOLE experiment, and - fittingly enough, an airstrike experiment with a satellite from space. Whether the Star was ever destroyed in the first place is still a question I cannot answer.

Eclipse’s Resurrection

Eclipse is made to believe he is a carbon copy, a clone, NOT the real Eclipse. This is false. This has always been false. If you pay attention, you knew this was false already.

Eclipse wakes up after resurrection with no clues as to where he is, no reason to understand he’s alive, and has a SURGE of issues. He’s paranoid, his personality has been drastically damaged. He’s terrified, anxious, lacking of hate and focusing on answers.

He immediately knows who brought him back. Ruin. And he is DEAD SET on proving it, even after being called crazy. As if he watched it and forgotten it. He has no recollection of anything, his memories are jumbled at first. He reports it was “as if his memories were in third person”. Like the show. This means When Ruin built him, he originally programmed his memories in the same fashion Nexus tried to regain any while being New Moon. He imported all the episodes into his systems.

Yet, he’s traumatized. He’s reacting to issues that happened off screen. He remembers more and more as time goes on, no longer in third person, but in first. We can read discover this BECAUSE he has trauma responses. Nexus did not experience the years of trauma Moon went through, nor did he react to it. Eclipse did react to his own trauma. Often.

Eclipse has a surge of magic. He’s never been committed in any form to learn magic, he’s detested it numerous times. He’s only learned a few things - however, when he confronts the Creator, he instinctively uses it to shove The Creator away. Validly, both him and The Creator are surprised, but Eclipse shoves the issue away, never talking about it again.

As Eclipse moves into this new dimension, all his little “incidents” disappear. The Star is still present, but it is inactive. This is because of the blunt fact that Stars cannot be used in incorrect universes. By moving to a new universe, Eclipse is rendered as helpless as he always has been.

The Memory Of Star Power Theory

Because of all these little details, I came up with the theory that -

V4 isn’t a copy, he is, and always has been, the ORIGINAL Eclipse. I screamed about this for a WHILE. PAPERS! PAPERS! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!

I am currently calling it “Memory of Star Power”, but, the memory for water comes from Moana, basically saying “because water is a fluid that can take the shape of anything, it remembers the shape of everything that touches it.”

[Heavily theorized] When Eclipse originally died, the destruction of the Star caused a surge. Not in electricity, but in Star Power. Star Power exists everywhere, The Star is just a physical manifestation of it, and will always be the center point where Star Power is the most prevalent. This is how Eclipse originally tracked it down in 2022-2023. Suddenly exploding the main body can make the Star Power in the area almost suffocating - if it wasn’t as natural, or lively as oxygen.

The remnants of Eclipse, his memories, his DIMENSIONAL CODE, or even his SOUL dispersed with that power, roaming earth like oxygen without anywhere to go…until, a few months later, when Ruin creates his little side project(V4). The idle Star Power was aware of V4 as a work in progress created by Ruin because Star Power is omnipotent without a conscious. Simply because it exists everywhere, and remembers all that is.

Eclipse wasn’t “conscious” at the time, he was dead. But, that memory followed with him when the Star Power RETURNS to Eclipse’s body to find its rightful place…in that un-severable bond with Eclipse.

It is as if Eclipse himself has fulfilled the Rebuilt Star prophecy by BECOMING the Star - in an odd metaphor way, and a literal sense.

Why tell us this?

BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN RECENTLY, INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED TO BE CANON. Eclipse confronts Ruin about if he truly is just a carbon copy like Ruin has said he is. Ruin drops that - no. He never was. He was never a cheap copy to begin with. Ruin says if Eclipse had never died, he would still have turned out like this eventually.

This means that Eclipse was effectively revived from TRUE death. This is highlighted because no other character other than LUNAR has met TRUE DEATH and come back without some universe breaking rules. But…lowkey…Lunar ended up the same way - he was reborn as a Star. How…how interesting.

Now that you know THAT, what’s it gotta deal with the current Virus?

DAVIS HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT ECLIPSE ISN’T HAVING THE RIGHT SYMPTOMS. When people in the show share contradictory opinions, you have to cherry pick with some EXTREME critical thinking.

Ruin, someone DAVIS plays as, stares at the Virus’ symptoms that BELONG TO HIS CHARACTER - and says “That isn’t normal.”

Charlie claims The Virus acts differently for everyone. This is a direct combat against Ruin’s claim.

However, seconds later she contradicts her own claim.

Another thing to mention is that Ruin ISN’T being DUMB. He’s HIGHLY educated on this out of all things from sheer experience. He is lashing out in anger and desperation, but he is not allowing it to CONTROL him like we saw in his first lash out against Charlie.

He refrains from cussing, tries to convince, provide evidence, explain himself - he is not attacking Charlie verbally, trying to put her down, or anything of the sort. He is simply desperate because they are ALMOST at the finish line, and now everyone is backing out. Which, can be fatal.

Logistics break!

Ruin is objectively correct. Everyone CAN survive and then be cured AFTER being infected. Especially since Ruin is inherently immune and working on the cure. That is their current goal for the virus with MONTGOMERY GATOR. Once they have the cure, they can disperse it EVERYWHERE.

The main concern for everyone else is “what’s going to happen between now and then?” People could die, the world could end, permanent damage could be inflicted, and IS being inflicted AS WE SPEAK. Hundreds of people are losing their lives while Ruin is held them back from killing Monty at the beginning.

But, if they back out of making a cure now, if they decide to kill Montgomery, it’s not going to save everyone. In fact, it is far too late for that, because it can now be considered the end of the world. The virus has spread across the globe. There isn’t any way to “kill Monty and kill the rest” like a patient zero outbreak - because Montgomery Gator IS NOT PATIENT ZERO. RUIN IS. Whether that can now be applicable if we were to kill Ruin is up for debate.

The Virus now has MILLIONS of hosts. Once Monty dies, it will CONTINUE to spread. Ruin’s decision to make a cure was a fatal decision when Monty first came around, because then, they HAD a choice. They think they no longer do now because everyone is dying - but they aren’t realizing that they are about to choose a choice that NO LONGER EXISTS.

RUIN IS NOT ACTING IRRATIONALLY TO ACT IRRATIONALLY. RUIN’S CURE IS LIKELY THE ONLY REAL OPTION THEY HAVE ANYMORE. RUIN IS ACTING LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE HAS LIVED THIS EXACT SCENARIO BEFORE, AND KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

Ruin is very disconnected from humanity. He doesn’t WANT to see them die, but if it comes to it, Ruin would throw away the species to save something greater. He has before, and he will again. This stems from his years of brainwashing low-key. “Humans must die” and all that.

FINALLY. AFTER ALL THIS INFORMATION, HERE’S WHAT I CLAIM

The remnants of Star inside Eclipse is cancelling The Virus. Negatively.

The Virus gets into your head and essentially takes control of you, turning you into another person entirely, and sealing yourself away in the back of your subconscious. [Third time, Eclipse?] [sorry that was uncalled for] That “new person”, that SHELL, that ENDGAME of the Virus is what takes your memories, your virtual amygdala, and twists it around and heightens it like nothing else before. It will take things you are no longer dwelling on, and use it as a main motive.

The symptoms of the Ruin Virus goes as following: Intrusive thoughts, blacking out [typically engaging in violent activities], hysteria, irritability, verbal filter loss, and a complete loss in control of strong emotions [extremely dramatized, exaggerated, explosive, etc.]

However, Eclipse is having completely opposite symptoms.

Eclipse is seen to be irritable at the beginning of today’s episode [Eclipse gets CORRUPTED by the RUIN VIRUS in VRCHAT], and then his emotions subtly vanish. He has minimal reaction, zones out, loses a sense of awareness, but remains HIMSELF.

Roxanne in this episode becomes delirious. She becomes paranoid, senses heightened, having intrusive violent thoughts while she keeps a hold of her final-stage sanity - like we saw with Ruin’s Monty in older episodes such as Ruin’s HISTORY in VRCHAT [or the other one…it was a Nexus and Ruin episode where bro gets lobotomized…there’s only 2 of those episodes so it won’t be hard to find.]

Even before then, Roxanne was irritable, aware of everyone, and angered by such. Roxanne wasn’t herself, like she was stuck in a mindset focusing on nagging, nagging, nagging.

Ruin’s Monty was delirious, hyper vigilant, and extremely blackout violent. He didn’t become aware of what he was doing until it was done, though following the string of intrusive thoughts until he finally commits the act of killing people.

Ballora became irritable, aggressive, and violent. She isn’t necessarily black-out violent, but she’s clearly not herself. She became tunnel visioned, easy to distract and anger, and quick to violence.

Eclipse on the other hand becomes a complete statue - the OPPOSITE of what The Virus would do. It’s not the idea that Eclipse is just affected differently to quirkily contrast his already violent self, it’s a DIRECT RED FLAG.

Not to mention, Eclipse hasn’t LOST HIMSELF like everyone else. He is not lashing out, he is not using old anger, new irrational anger, or ANYTHING of the sort.

Eclipse is on ONE line of thought, the entire time. He does not become distracted, he does not huff out of anger - but desperation and realization. He continues to speak out his goal, what needs to be done, he does not give in to a mindset of violence and delirium. He is FULLY sane…while losing complete motor and thought control.

If The Virus was working PROPERLY, Eclipse would be the MOST FEARED to be infected, because he has the most experience in senseless violence. He would probably kill EVERYONE without a second thought. IF. THE. VIRUS. WORKED. PROPERLY.

But THE VIRUS. ISN’T. WORKING. ON ECLIPSE.

Think of it like a common sickness. You do not get symptoms from the virus itself, you get symptoms from the evidence that your body has RECOGNIZED a virus, and is ACTIVELY fighting it. Whether it is losing or winning is irrelevant.

When you cough, sneeze, vomit, or even HICCUP it is to REMOVE the infection that you are stuck with. It is a direct combat strategy your body puts into motion to expel your body of something foreign.

If you were to go into a COMA, it is because your body physically cannot heal with you being conscious at the same time. If you were, it’d worsen swelling and all sorts of problems. When you are advised to rest while you are sick, it is because it gives your body the chance to focus on fighting the infection. To continue to do things while your body is fighting will weaken your systems and often cause you disadvantages in the battle - which makes it worse.

The EXISTENCE of clogged Star Power inside of Eclipse - the DEFINITION of life ESSENCE - is ACTIVELY FIGHTING the Ruin Virus to see which can keep the body, considering Eclipse…in theory…may have possessed HIMSELF - DUE TO THAT RESURRECTION.

“One possession at a time, please!”

It is causing Eclipse to go into a stand-still comatose state while his body is fighting off the Virus as much as it can. Eclipse may not be ABLE to GET infected for all we know BECAUSE of this. We have yet to see if The Virus will eventually overcome The Star. If it does, will it turn him into a speechless zombie, or will it remain as Eclipse? Or, if The Star will overturn The Virus, Will it make him IMMUNE?

My personal thought is that he will be in a constant standing-coma.

Last thought off tonight’s topic.

Ruin is the virus.

Do we all remember this?

“Eclipse” [dead name] and Ruin are the same person, but are metaphorically two different people. “Eclipse” is the body “Ruin” resides in. “Eclipse” is a dimensional code along with a chosen name, but above all, who Ruin wants to be perceived as. Eclipse was a curious animatronic who looked forward to life, but the birth of “Eclipse” was also the birth of “Ruin”.

Ruin is Eclipse’s GIVEN name - by his Creator. Not because of some DLC or separation from other characters [well it may used to be but not anymore…] but because Ruin is the name of The Virus that Eclipse is MADE of. This is what makes Eclipse DIFFERENT from other Eclipse’s, Sun’s, Moon’s, etc. He is a rare phenomenon in which Ruin becomes a world-ending catastrophe. He is a global disaster.

The Creator names Eclipse “Ruin” to highlight his existence as a world killer.

That would be like naming someone with Leukemia “Leuke” as a nickname.

Ruin’s virus was used to kill humanity in his world��and they succeeded.

So, when I heard this

“The virus memorized the path to my brain.” “It’s learning.” - Eclipse

I had to think... “is it the Virus that’s learning, or is it Ruin?”

Ruin rebuilt Eclipse. Ruin knows his anatomy, but doesn’t know the others.

Charlie didn’t attempt to “push!” the others…so the instant-regeneration is debatable now. It could be The Virus mutating…or…

The Virus is reconnecting with Ruin. Patient Zero. The Original Strain.

Have fun with that! Let me know your thoughts and theories! :]

[mercoolry]

Okay so I made this a couple months ago when I was bored, I desperately needed something to post since my art block has been dragging me for like a month, so here’s an iceberg of weird/random/slightly disturbing tsams facts and theories n other stuff :D

(Sorry for the ugly lines around the texts, I was lazy)

Not all of them are canon or confirmed, some are speculated, and there’s a couple in the mix that are theories I found made by other people, eg Nexus’s manic episode (which is a theory I really like)

[everettethirlightt]

Tsams Theory!!!

I think that Solar is the oldest sibling in the Celestials.

Solar's original dimension is in the past. In "Moon Meets Eclipse in VRCHAT" Solar asks him at 7:10 what year it is for him. Nexus/NM says that it's 2023, Solar says it's 2020 for him.

All Eclipses are apart of Moon's code, so Og Eclipse and Og Moon are both 25(based on their voice preferences) or canonically 8.

Moon said In some reaction video that he and Sun had been in the same body 5 years before separation/the show.

BUT Solar is from three years before them, so wouldn't he TECHNICALLY be the eldest? He'd be 28 (canon is 11).

For Lunar, he wasn't apart of any code. (Aside from being inside Moon's head.) Eclipse MADE him as a distraction. He wouldn't be 5+ due to that.

So the ages of all the Celestials(based on when first seen in the show if not given info) should be:

Solar - 28 or 11 (What if ECLIPSE isn't EVIL!? in VRCHAT) February 2, 2023

Moon and Sun - 25 or 8 (Sun and Moon REACT to GLAMROCK FREDDY GOES TO PRISON! - Zamination Animation) March 24, 2022

Lunar- late 20 or early 21 or 2-3 (Eclipse CORRUPTS MOON with a VIRUS in VRCHAT or Moon's has an Alternate Personality!? in VRCHAT) August 11 or August 12, 2022

Earth - Early-mid 20 or 2 (Earth SAVES Sun in VRCHAT) March 31, 2023

[tiredsmashbros]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MANGO !!! :3c 🍔✨

i legit found out yesterday last night but i was too tired to make something at the time so i began manifesting for a snowtrapped remaster UIGJEFDSXIUHJK

LEGIT I REMEMBER THINKIN AS A JOKE TO MYELEF "it would soooo cool if they added mango's art on their bday lmao" AND IT HAPPENED BRO THAT IS SO FUKIN AWESOME SRSLY CONGRATULATIONS U SRSLY DESERVE IT IUGJHBDECSX

i need to yeet now to eat and do hw but i really wanted to make smth for u even if its a bit scrappy atm aaa but i hope u like it man 💛🍔

[libbys-braincell-loss]

@bluesbox @hamlos @tiredsmashbros

just seeing the theories and yall going crazy for them is so silly to me bahaha /silly /pos

tsb just cant catch a break 😭

[sabrondabrainrot]

I haven't done a brainrot post in a while!

So for LAEs QueenKat just did an announcement she will be stepping away from LAEs, and for very good reason! She's not retiring any of her characters but she is taking her own break.

To be honest, I really respect her, her writing, and acting. Let it be said, she brought a plethora of characters in that all hold a certain level of maturity and responsibility. I feel her writing was under the most attack at times which to me always rang unfair. It's understandable why she would stop writing for this show and why she would inevitably take a break.

How can you have joy doing a job everyone seems to hate?

QueenKat's writing brought in consequences, weight, and helped characters to change and grow. I hope with time everyone will truly come to respect and appreciate her writing. It's very sad that people essentially killed the things she was passionate about. I'm not speaking for kat by the way, this is just the vibe I get from the past history.

I miss the episodes where Earth sat down and held a therapy session with someone but those did not get many views. Those moments made the characters feel more alive. It's sad we can't have our cake and eat it too.

I know change is uncomfortable and the idea of characters changing for the better or for the worse is jarring but that has to happen. QueenKat changed the status quo for the shows with her writing.

Remember, a story that doesn't end or change is a stagnating story. A stagnant story is a dead one. If new ideas are not added or explored then how can anything continue?

So with that, I will be sharing my own theories and predictions for the future of the shows.

Before I continue I'll be putting my theories and predictions underneath so I don't accidentally spoil anyone who's getting caught up on the various channels.

✨🩷👇Click below if you wish to see spoilers! ✨🩷👇

We've been getting hints and teases about the expansion of the multiverse in tsams. It's pretty funny, they want to tell stories in the vastness of space plus the added drama of more multiverse shenanigans!

Earth and Monty just got engaged and usually for a plethora of female leads or female characters that's considered the 'realization' of their story. Usually, that's when they're retired.

Now, is that what the tsams and laes writers are planning to do? I think not. At the moment they're writing Earth as taking a vacation because QueenKat herself is taking a break.

So for Earth, we're getting tons of set up with her. She's met with the Earth multiverse counsel. We may not get to know every little thing that's happening in those meetings but it's interesting she's now reaching out and associating with them. What we know about those Earths so far isn't much. So what I pay attention to at the moment, is the Leader Earth.

She arranged and picked these Earths specifically to meet.

Knowing her, the Leader Earth only does things that further her own plans. She's a leader and took over the world and has expressed to Lunar that she plans to expand into the multiverse.

Paying attention to what she tells Earth in particular, she sprinkles in these ideas that Earths are used across the multiverse and if Sun isn't hurt or killed then it is Earths that get the brunt of everything. We don't know how true that is across the multiverse but if we take that at face value there's a lot Earth will need to think about.

So what does this mean for Earth's future?

To be honest, she's always expressed wanting to protect everyone and do more for her family etc. it's highly possible that Leader Earth might manipulate those feelings into getting Earth to 'join the dark side.'

A villain Earth ark might be in our future!

[droid-dabbles]

Some drawings to go with the theory that Eclipse might build the star in this dimension to show who's boss. Srry I couldn't add more details (rushed)

[solarflaresdaddyissues]

Random ass SAMS theory, but…

What if Atlas is really just some reincarnated version of Eternis or something?

(In case no one remembers, Eternis was from a LAES Minecraft video with Lunar and Pollux where Lunar had to fight a negative being from Pollux and Castor’s memory. He’s the giant eyeball.)

I was just thinking about it and it’s been in my notes for Polaris knows how long as “Eternal Atlas Theory” and I realized I can post this here and likely not be judged for my interest in theorizing, so that’s what I’m doing. Mind you, I’ve never used a social media like this before. This is new to me and I have no idea what’s going on, please be patient with me if I seem annoying or slow.

My (potential) Evidence:

(copied and pasted from my notes, that’s why the font is weird)

1: Appearance

Eternis was a dark star being resembling a giant almost turquoise and blue eyeball. No other distinguishing features.

Atlas is a alleged shapeshifter, with dark blue skin, wizard’s garb, and an eyeball resembling Eternis’ for a head.

2: Foreshadow

In the episode that Eternis was even brought up in the first place, Lunar asked if there was more of Eternis or if there was something similar, like a giant hand instead of an eyeball, though Gemini refused to answer the question.

This show is prone to foreshadows and Gemini has a habit of refusing to say anything only when the answer is yes.

3: Location

While Atlas may be from another planet, it’s strange that they just so happen to be harboring in space on some unknown planet so far from Earth and just somehow managed to find that one planet that a newer astral and someone who can sense wither shards is on.

4: Potential plot holes 

It seems mighty suspicious that Atlas just so happens to be the last left of his kind and so graciously decided to help Sun of all people.

There’s nothing wrong with that if he’s telling the truth, but it seems far fetched.

It seems odd that Atlas just so happened to choose to train one of the people who hangs around a recently created astral body & is someone who is harnessing some form of star power.

Eternis, on the other hand, is someone who is directly a negative being and it would make sense for him to target anything relating to positive star power.

I don’t know if I’m just connecting dots that I placed myself or if I’m actually onto something, but I’m so tired and this is eating away at me.

[jylesthejester]

I have a couple of theories about Francis and Frank (TSBS)

So in technicality, their both entities that represent negativity and positivity (I say "in technicality" cause there's probably more to it.)

I seriously doubt their animatronic bodies are what they had before they appeared in the shows, I think they had more of an otherwordly entity-like look, but due to the universes they went into, they picked up on the animatronic looks, and took over old/beta models of sun and moon. (I also think this is true due to the fact that they're mimics of some sort, mimicking breathing and speech.)

If they didn't speak before, I'm sure Frank could pick up on Francis' presence due to the overwhelming positivity coming from an area, and vise versa, it's how they knew where each other were.

Also, considering Fran(the unknown sister) is apathy, I feel like she'd look like Eclipse. Reason being; Moons are generally related to negativity in most universes, which is Frank. Suns are generally related to positivity in most universes, which is Francis. Anyone remember that time in one of the UNO episodes where Frank transformed into an eclipse-like version? A void face with dark orange rays and a nose sticking out? He also turned into a sun version of himself in another video, and opened his face plates multiple times. Maybe Fran and Francis can also do that as well? Change Appearance and open face plates.

Okay, back to where I was going with this originally. I'm wondering if Frank and Francis can, in technicality, corrupt each other? Due to them being literal embodiments of opposite things, I wonder if when they're around each other too much, they begin to get corrupted? Maybe it begins with feelings of nausea or just, maybe Francis feels way to overwhelmed with negativity, and Frank feels way to overwhelmed with positivity. It's probably extremely rare if it were to happen, as it's shown Francis is eager to spend time with his little brother, I feel like he'd be maybe a slight bit more cautious if it were common.

.... I also really wanna see Francis lose his shit, like actually. Maybe Frank gets hurt somehow, I love when generally sunshine characters lose their shit. Like that one episode with earth a while back when bloodmoon 2.0 was still alive, and her protective code enabled? I forget what the code was called, but that was so cool to me. I know it's like a classic, expected trope, but it's so nice to see.

[llamaisllama777]

I... I think I know what's going on.

Theory: Nexus ain't dead. We're all still playing Dark Sun's game!

(Nexus fans, you're gonna love this. I know I am)

Okay, so, in today's episode, we see Moon travels to another dimension cause of a dimensional anomaly and sees a Sun bashing his Moon's skull in. Moon is obviously startled and horrified by this, and after a little investigation, Moon finds out something is wrong in the multiverse, apparently in 36% of the multiverse a bunch of Suns have started to kill their Moons.

Why? How? What caused this? What triggered it? Suns just don't start randomly murdering Moons...

I think we may have an answer...

Nexus isn't really gone. Dark Sun is still pulling the strings.

Okay, so, remember this episode?

In this episode, Dark Sun asks Nexus' permission and full trust to do something. Now we never found out what this something was until now, I think.

Dark Sun also mentioned in this episode or a different one he says that Nexus wouldn't have the same body forever. I thought he meant like he'd make Nexus a new body to contain his negative star power, but no. He just meant Nexus wouldn't have the same body... he never said he'd make him a new one.

In this episode...

Dark Sun briefly mentions to Sun that whoever he chooses to kill, he will exsponge the data of them so they couldn't come back... this means Dark Sun has access to Moon and Nexus' code... he has their code. Hmmmm....

Plus, Dark Sun did have access to Ruin a.k.a, a guy who had been exposed and probably knows how to make the Ruin virus...

Nexus isn't gone. He's just not in our world anymore. He's in EVERY WORLD NOW!

When Sun killed Nexus, that's what Dark Sun wanted. He didn't want Moon to die. That wouldn't benefit him. He needed Nexus to die to complete his plan. Dark Sun has access to Nexus' code and Ruin, a guy who knows an awful lot about the Ruin virus he probably knows how to make it, too.

Dark Sun wanted Sun to kill Nexus, so Nexus would die and become pure code, Dark Sun could then spread Nexus around the multiverse like a virus and cause other Moon's to go rouge and become Nexuses which would cause other Suns to kill their Moons and become like Dark Sun in a sense.

Dark Sun did say he did all this for Sun and probably every other Sun.

Dark Sun is trying to prove to all Suns that all Moons are bad and that they're better off without them. But of course, in the grand scheme of the multiverse, not EVERY Moon can be bad, so Dark Sun and Nexus MADE them bad.

Dark Sun is trying to create more hims cause he does view himself as the Superior Sun, the Sun that grew up, the Sun that grew a spine, the Sun that fought back!

Dark Sun views himself as a sort of savior of Suns, and in his twisted mind, he's trying to save the other Suns from being used and abused by their Moons. He's trying to prove his point that all Moons are bad, but since not every Moon is bad, he had to make them bad to prove his point. (Which kind of defeats his point, but I digress)

Dark Sun is trying to do this to save the other Suns! By ruining the other Moons!

Tl;Dr Nexus isn't dead and is now pure code, and Dark Sun is having him go around the multiverse, turning all Moon's into Nexuses to prove his point that all Moons are bad and make more Suns like himself.

But hey, that's just a theory...

A TSAMS THEORY!

[the-ultimate-tsbs-kin]

Sun and Moon Show Dimension Theory

Warning; I am autistic and my analogy might not make any sense at all

Have you ever wondered, "how can there be commonalities if there's infinite dimensions?"

I have, and I've come up with a little theory that sorta narrows it down (for me).

I have no idea how to even formulate it, sooo...

What if they're not referring to all dimensions when they say "across dimensions"? What if there's a handful of dimensions next to theirs that are the alternate versions we see, like Lord Eclipse or Evil Lunar? Like, what if the alternate dimensions are in their own little corner of similar dimensions?

There's only a handful (relative to infinity) of dimensions that are alternate versions of themselves, maybe those are just all the dimensions they're able to see because they're similar?

The reason it's so rare to find a good Eclipse is because it's rare for THEIR alternate dimensions.

Like, with the Swap AU. They're able to find that one because it's a direct parallel to them, just with the characters in different places. They overlap. The Swap AU has its own corner of alternate dimensions relative to them that aren't necessarily related to tsams. So, on their side of the dimensions, it'd be rare for them to find a good Moon across dimensions and good Eclipses aren't really unheard of.

So basically- they can only see a limited amount of dimensions around them because they can't see infinity, and the ones they can see follow their storyline, just with minor differences (or minor differences that led to big differences, like the story changing).

I REALLY hope this makes sense bc this is how I see it wihfjshd

[immortaledd]

IS ECLIPSE ALREADY INFECTED BY THE RUIN VIRUS?????

A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A SCENE + ANALYSIS + THEORY

[EPISODE: RUIN’S PLAN TO SAVE MONTY / MAY 6TH 2024]

Something I’ve always managed to do throughout watching TSAMS…TEAPS..TSBS… I know when Eclipse is acting off. He seemed…a little off in today’s episode. Though…it’s iffy. It’s not “off” because he still seems in-character for the most part. But he’s a little less logical than normal? He’s jumping to the gun to fire first which…is and isn’t odd. (Basically, this is me shooting in the dark.)

Eclipse was VERY adamant on killing Ruin’s Monty. That Montgomery’s goal is to spread the Ruin Virus and wreak havoc upon the TEAPS universe. We know that Eclipse is…not SPITEFUL towards Ruin in any way. He’s not choosing this path out of anger against Ruin. He favors him, if anything. We even saw it when Ruin was KIDNAPPED. Eclipse was the first to try to hold him back and warn him. Along with that, Ruin has just always been patient with Eclipse and at his side in moments needed.

So, what does that mean?

It means Eclipse has an ulterior motive. No, not a “hahaha I’m a bad guy” motive, it means he has a motivation to kill Monty that is more important to him than Ruin’s motive to save him.

He also seemed more aggressive in this video. Almost like he’s relapsing to V1.

[Side claim, I refer to Eclipse as V1-4 due to personality changes and growth in character. He has always been the same eclipse. I have argued this for a LOOONG time.]

[7:11] “I give you a chance to prove yourself and you turn your back on me?!” [Eclipse]

Along with yelling at everyone, insulting them, etc.

YES, this is “typical Eclipse behavior”, but it is so subtly more emphasized than it used to be. It’s just more relevant than normal - that it feels uncanny.

[3:40] “The virus…makes you…angry! It makes you aggressive, it makes you violent.” [Ruin]

Interesting description.

NOW, NOW. I MIGHT BE GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. I STILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO TRIP AND EAT SHIT.

However.

This scene is what intrigued me most.

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🔅= ECLIPSE DIALOGUE

🦊🍼= FC DIALOGUE

FC approaches the counter Eclipse stands behind as everyone else leaves to calm down.

🔅: “Am I really getting a lecture from you?”

Eclipse has stuck with his idea to kill Ruin’s Montgomery no matter the cost - to prevent disaster asap. But the team to save Monty is bigger.

🦊🍼: “you. suck.”

🔅: “Really? Is that your big comeback?”

🦊🍼: “Yep. That’s all. Goodbye.”

FC leaves the room,

🔅: “Oh, ffffuck off.”

Eclipse is left by himself at the counter, pondering to himself.

He’s “sighing” to himself. A mix between groans, or a struggle to recollect his breath.

🔅: “Sometimes I imagine—” He trails off, it’s incoherent.

. . .

🔅: “I maybe have two months before all this starts to…spiral out of control.”

🔅: “By then…I don’t even know if I’ll be here.”

🔅: “Or maybe I’ll lose my mind quicker.”

HE SEEMS FULLY AWARE HE’S INFECTED IF I AM RIGHT. EVERYTHING ELSE I TALKED ABOUT? LITTLE DETAILS…LITTLE HINTS.

He’s angry at everyone for whatever their option is.

He’s getting aggressive by yelling at them.

He’s getting violent and focusing that energy onto Ruin’s Monty…to KILL HIM.

BUT ECLIPSE IS ANRGY, AGGRESSIVE, AND VIOLENT.

If I’m WRONG, I’m WRONG.

If I’m RIGHT…DAVIS IS MAKING ECLIPSE BE THE FIRST TO GO BECAUSE HE WILL BE THE HARDEST TO FIGURE OUT UNTIL IT’S TOO LATE! THERE’S WOOL BEING PULLED OVER OUR EYES AND IT’S PURPLE AND LAGGY.

THEY’VE TAKEN OUT RUIN. ONE OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE THERE.

Of COURSE THEY WOULD TAKE ECLIPSE NEXT. This is what the MIMIC DID. WHICH. HEY! STILL AROUND.

THEY’RE PLAYING US FOR FOOLS!

BUT I. AND I ALONE. SEE THROUGH IT.

SEE THROUGH MY EYES AND REVEAL THE TRUTH TO YOURSELF.

okay im losing it. Have fun with this theory! Feel free to debate, theorize, etc! :]

[mercoolry]

I’m gonna say something controversial, and the TSAMS/LAES fandom might hate me for this, but…

Some of yall are lowkey weird for shipping Lunar x Kerian.

Wasn’t the whole episode literally Lunar getting manipulated?? Yall are literally shipping Lunar with some evil bird guy who (I believe is) thousands of years old who manipulated him 💀🙏🏻

Idc, fight me for this, BUT LURIAN (we’ll just call that the ship name for now) LITERALLY ISNT ANY BETTER THAN LUNAR X ECLIPSE.

We know Lunar is naive, he always has been, he’s proven many times he’s the perfect target for manipulation. And I know he doesn’t want to be in a relationship rn after him and Gemini broke up, and I’m not saying him and Kerian actually have a chance together (because they don’t, Kerian probably has the same sort of feelings around love as the other astrals do; which is nonexistent, basically the astrals are aroace), but as we see at the end of the episode, the flirting lowkey worked, so it IS possible that it could turn into something much bigger.

Im just saying, I’ve seen way too many ppl GENUINELY ship these two, which in my opinion is honestly weird asf, fight me 😭🙏🏻

[the-chaos137]

Can we talk about Ruin rq?

Ruin was corrupted by a psychotic, masochist virus for most likely, years. They lived in a world where everyone was constantly fighting, war everywhere, all their friends trying to them. Their creator being the reason for all of that.

When sun went to Ruined Monty, they immediately attacked him because they thought he was Ruin. That’s what Ruin has to live through. They were trapped in their own head for years, most likely in the same amount of pain that Sun went through when stuck in Moons head. They wanted out, in the interphase it was clear they were in PAIN.

And Moon and Sun found a vile labelled “cure” and used that to cure Ruin. THEY WERE THE ONES TO CURE RUIN. Ruin has done nothing to them since coming back. Sure they could be faking. But why would they if they found an actual cure in their og dimension?

Ruin sees things other people don’t. It’s who they are. They can see the editors cameras. They can see codes and messages in the static around the plex. Remember this is still FNAF, meaning there still are children’s spirits hanging around the location. Ruin can see their messages in the static. That’s my theory as to why they haven’t fixed some of the static. They want to help.

Could be a stretch but whatever.

Moon is constantly suspicious of them even though they haven’t done anything besides being DIFFERENT. Besides being a little strange. They have HELPED Moon and Sun. They were kidnapped by Eclipse, threatened to be tortured, told Eclipse to his face that they could help him with his mental health. Why would they be acting? It doesn’t make sense to me.

Moon refuses to trust them. Ruin was alone during Christmas. Not even Earth went to see them. They were alone. They’re insecure, as shown in their diary that MOON READ. That is such a dick move, that’s their private thoughts and feelings. If Moon had a diary and someone read it he would be PISSED. I get he doesn’t trust them but there is NO evidence that they are against them in ANY WAY!

And moon still doesn’t trust them. I just don’t get it. I get Moon has trust issues but come on dude. THEIR DIARY??? Low blow.

[ Bonus:

Ruin days stuff like “oh my gods.” Or “gods”. And I find that quite interesting for their character, most likely hinting that they are a pagan or something else. ]