#turn and burn

[jackshiccup]

snotlout ‘i’m having asia fondue’ jorgenson vs hiccup ‘are you trying to say deja vu?’ haddock

[simplecountryboy]

[rosiethedragongeek]

I wanna finally talk about why I hate Spitelout, since I talk so much about how much I hate Spitelout

Every time I try to make this post I make it way too long, so I think I'm gonna do bullet points to try and shorten it lol

(Keep in mind, all quotes are paraphrased, I didn't remember/look for exact phrasing)

TLDR; fuck spitelout jorgenson

--RIDERS/DEFENDERS OF BERK--

--Thawfest--

Spitelout is shown to be super supportive of Snotlout the entire time he's winning, and then yells at him and is verryy disappointed in him when he begins losing

this image set right here

once Snotlout wins Thawfest Spitelout is proud again

Hiccup realizes that Snotlout is actaully scared of what will happen if he loses to the point where he lets Snotlout win (he had no qualms when he knew that Snotlout would just be disappointed and bitter)

'Snotlout your dad looks really mad rn'

'What do you know? He always looks like that'

--Race to Fireworm Island---

Snotlout works Hookfang to the point of death because Spitelout keeps telling him that 'rest is for the weak'

How hard has Spitelout worked Snotlout then? How hard does Snotlout work himself?

When he sees Snotlout clearly distressed over his potentially dying dragon, his best friend, instead of comforting his son Spitelout tells him to get a new one

--RACE TO THE EDGE--

--Astrid's Team--

"I get to point out every one of his mistakes!" implying that Spitelout often points out all of Snotlout's mistakes

Hiccup sees Astrid making Spitelout do pushups; "what did he do?" "he's Snotlout's dad" "enough said"

You can see that as them poking fun at Snotlout but I like to see it as protective Hicstrid

--Snotlout Gets the Ax--

He gives Snotlout the ceremonial ax to bring to the wedding (a big honor) in front of his friends and then lists all of the people he thought would be a better choice for the job who couldn't do it (including Griplout who has no arms) also in front of his friends

"hopefully you're smart enough to know what that means"

Hiccup and especially Astrid who have been blaming Snotlout for dropping the ax and trying to leave him to deal with the consequences on his own all episode volunteer to tell Spitelout it was their fault when it comes time to explain why they were late with the ax

"Then I guess I'll never be good enough for you"

Spitelout blows off Snotlout's emotional speech at the end and pretends there was no reason for Snotlout to be nervous in the first place, completely undermining everything Snotlout said

Seriously watch the way Snotlout and Spitelout interact in the begging (and ending) of the episode, and pay attention to Snotlout's body language like he's so nervous around Spitelout

--A Time to Skrill--

Snotlout is translating for everyone what Spitelout is saying and it's played comedically bc that's obviously not what he's saying the entire time

And he's constantly saying that Spitelout's talking about how proud of him he is

Probs bc Spitelout rarely tells him that

The scene at the end where Spitelout can talk again and he says something along the lines of 'oh we have a lot to talk about' (like he's jokingly mad that Snotlout's been saying he's been saying those things) and then grabs Snotlout's shoulder (which clearly hurts Snotlout) and they all laugh it off (including Snotlout)

It was annoying when he ignored Hiccup's plan and just ran into battle so -5 points

--Turn and Burn--

Snotlout clearly doesn't like what's going on/wants to go with Hiccup (look at his face when they split) but goes with Spitelout anyway bc that's just the effect he has on him

This episode was pretty mild though

--Notlout--

Convinces Snotlout that none of his friends are being honest about their intentions and that they're all vying to get leadership positions when Hiccup's chief

Makes Snotlout think that he has to do the same or he won't be good enough

"A Jorgenson doesn't ask permission to be great"

"He takes what's rightfully his" or smth like that

Gives Snotlout nightmares about his friends mocking and abandoning him

Makes Snotlout so anxious that his vision blurs and he hallucinates

'Whatever greatness I end up doing and trust me it will be great, it has to be what I want not what my dad wants"

--Darkest Night--

Snotlout's idealized version of a world where they never left Berk includes Spitelout being super proud of him

And him saying smth like 'wow dad it's so great that we've always had a great relationship with perfect communication' or smth

--King of Dragons-- (I can't remember part one or two)

Spitelout's just like I'm proud of you son and that's it like they don't actually resolve any of their issues

This is more of a gripe with the writers/directors than Spitelout but

--MISCELLANEOUS--

Snotlout holding a twig while Fishlegs and Throck name their hedge sculptures "i call this My Lousy Childhood"

Snotlout's obvious self-esteem issues

Snotlout's toxic masculinity

Snotlout's misogyny

"See ya wouldn't wanna be ya! Ha! That's how we say goodbye Jorgenson style! or at least that's how my dad says goodbye to me"

He makes Snotlout make faces like this:

And this:

fuck spitelout

Let me know if I missed anything, or if you disagree with something, or if any of my points need clarification! I know that doing it with the bullet points removed a lot of context from stuff

I just wanna hear what people think of this analysis

[ligercat]

[ashleybenlove]

Stoick has a fucking point. Spitelout said he knew this dragon. Hiccup suggested shooting at the belly to neutralize the dragon. The belly also has fire abilities too.

Spitelout does not tell them this.

Ergo, Spitelout sucks.

[bellbootsandcandles]

Please don’t steal my animation to repost, I’ve put a lot of time and effort into it so far.

[personalized-plates]

TRN N BRN

[endusviolence]

Rowling isn't denying holocaust. She just pointed out that burning of transgender health books is a lie as that form of cosmetic surgery didn't exist. But of course you knew that already, didn't you?

I was thinking I'd probably see one of you! You're wrong :) Let's review the history a bit, shall we?

In this case, what we're talking about is the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, or in English, The Institute of Sexology. This Institute was founded and headed by a gay Jewish sexologist named Magnus Hirschfeld. It was founded in July of 1919 as the first sexology research clinic in the world, and was run as a private, non-profit clinic. Hirschfeld and the researchers who worked there would give out consultations, medical advice, and even treatments for free to their poorer clientele, as well as give thousands of lectures and build a unique library full of books on gender, sexuality, and eroticism. Of course, being a gay man, Hirschfeld focused a lot on the gay community and proving that homosexuality was natural and could not be "cured".

Hirschfeld was unique in his time because he believed that nobody's gender was either one or the other. Rather, he contended that everyone is a mixture of both male and female, with every individual having their own unique mix of traits.

This leads into the Institute's work with transgender patients. Hirschfeld was actually the one to coin the term "transsexual" in 1923, though this word didn't become popular phrasing until 30 years later when Harry Benjamin began expanding his research (I'll just be shortening it to trans for this brief overview.) For the Institute, their revolutionary work with gay men eventually began to attract other members of the LGBTA+, including of course trans people.

Contrary to what Anon says, sex reassignment surgery was first tested in 1912. It'd already being used on humans throughout Europe during the 1920's by the time a doctor at the Institute named Ludwig Levy-Lenz began performing it on patients in 1931. Hirschfeld was at first opposed, but he came around quickly because it lowered the rate of suicide among their trans patients. Not only was reassignment performed at the Institute, but both facial feminization and facial masculization surgery were also done.

The Institute employed some of these patients, gave them therapy to help with other issues, even gave some of the mentioned surgeries for free to this who could not afford it! They spoke out on their behalf to the public, even getting Berlin police to help them create "transvestite passes" to allow people to dress however they wanted without the threat of being arrested. They worked together to fight the law, including trying to strike down Paragraph 175, which made it illegal to be homosexual. The picture below is from their holiday party, Magnus Hirschfeld being the gentleman on the right with the fabulous mustache. Many of the other people in this photo are transgender.

[Image ID: A black and white photo of a group of people. Some are smiling at the camera, others have serious expressions. Either way, they all seem to be happy. On the right side, an older gentleman in glasses- Magnus Hirschfeld- is sitting. He has short hair and a bushy mustache. He is resting one hand on the shoulder of the person in front of him. His other hand is being held by a person to his left. Another person to his right is holding his shoulder.]

There was always push back against the Institute, especially from conservatives who saw all of this as a bad thing. But conservatism can't stop progress without destroying it. They weren't willing to go that far for a good while. It all ended in March of 1933, when a new Chancellor was elected. The Nazis did not like homosexuals for several reasons. Chief among them, we break the boundaries of "normal" society. Shortly after the election, on May 6th, the book burnings began. The Jewish, gay, and obviously liberal Magnus Hirschfeld and his library of boundary-breaking literature was one of the very first targets. Thankfully, Hirschfeld was spared by virtue of being in Paris at the time (he would die in 1935, before the Nazis were able to invade France). His library wasn't so lucky.

This famous picture of the book burnings was taken after the Institute of Sexology had been raided. That's their books. Literature on so much about sexuality, eroticism, and gender, yes including their new work on trans people. This is the trans community's Alexandria. We're incredibly lucky that enough of it survived for Harry Benjamin and everyone who came after him was able to build on the Institute's work.

[Image ID: A black and white photo of the May Nazi book burning of the Institute of Sexology's library. A soldier, back facing the camera, is throwing a stack of books into the fire. In the background of the right side, a crowd is watching.]

As the Holocaust went on, the homosexuals of Germany became a targeted group. This did include transgender people, no matter what you say. To deny this reality is Holocaust denial. JK Rowling and everyone else who tries to pretend like this isn't reality is participating in that evil. You're agreeing with the Nazis.

But of course, you knew that already, didn't you?

Edit: Added image IDs. I apologize to those using screen readers for forgetting them. Please reblog this version instead.

[demigods-posts]

sometimes. i just have to remind myself that percy took annabeth to paris. like, canonically. he forgot their one-month anniversary. and took his girl to paris to make up for it. the standards are in elysium.

[txttletale]

across the NATO bloc we are faced with a political class who are openly and loudly cheering on a genocide that they are funding and enabling. this is the political reality of the "developed world"

[rosiethedragongeek]

The fact that he saw Hiccup about to light the forge and immediately volunteered his help just to help Hiccup

[moonsun2010]

pain

[ashleybenlove]

It tells you everything you need to know about Spitelout that it takes a whole month being missing before Stoick decides to inform the man's son.

[queenerdloser]

so funny to me that miles bron doesn’t burn the incriminating napkin until after lionel asks him why he didn’t. not only does he steal his murder idea from benoit, he steals his cover-up from lionel. they really doubled down on making him steal literally every idea he ever has, huh.

[willgrahamscock]

not only is Hannibal a “would you love me if I was a worm” type of girl but he also says shit like “I just feel like you’re mad at me” when Will turns away after cuddling for a bit, but it’s because he got too hot and his back hurts from being folded like a lawn chair earlier

[ptanalo]

They are forever in their honeymoon era 🫶