thinking,,,,,,,, darling who has a cryptic pregnancy....... [insert twst character here] reacting to it,,, maybe you and floyd and you're both a little dense because neither of you could have ever guessed. T_T
"what do you mean you were pregnant this whole time???? i thought shrimpy just got softer. :D" - floyb mindset.
in floyd's defense, he has no idea how human pregnancies work. he slept through that part of land boot camp!!! fell asleep the minute the professor started droning on about how humans don't lay eggs like mers do. jade can only chuckle (maybe he knew, but in classic jade fashion he won't tell because it's much more entertaining to sit back and watch everyone slowly figure it out) and azul is shaking his head in disbelief. had he known, he would have prepared well in advance to lend a helping hand. and you're just so amazed because maybe you were told you're unable to get pregnant, but somehow it happened and you had no idea all this time.
thank you to floyd and his mer virility for doing what was thought to be the impossible!!!!!! <3
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The whole discourse about the privacy/secrecy/support thing has been sitting with me for a few days (I mean other than it always does to a certain degree) thanks to all the excellent discussion happening and I know I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said a million times before, but I think what we're seeing and what we're going to learn (e.g. from TTPD) is that it wasn't just the support issue, but how it was shown/handled.
We've all gone out of our way to show that introversion =/= lack of support. Someone can be shy, reserved, etc. and still show up for their partner, whether in public or at home. To chalk any of the differences up to the clash between introversion and extroversion is unfair to folks who count themselves among either tbh.
@thisisctrying said something the other day that hit the nail on the head about how if that support had been offered in private, there very well may not have been a Joever to begin with, or at least not at this point in time. (Sorry for loosely paraphrasing, and for namedropping you! Long time listener, first time poster.)
If this were a case where the "shy" partner said, "I am really uncomfortable with the spotlight personally and do not want to court it, but I will support you in your ambitions and offer you whatever you need to make them happen and make the glare bearable," I suspect that would have gone a long way to making Taylor feel seen and comfortable in pursuing her goals in the way that she now has. Again, that might have been more akin to the balance that seemed to have been struck around 2019 from what we can see, but even speaking in a general sense, there are lots of couples out there, celebrity or not, that have similar approaches where there are highly driven people and busy careers involved.
(A famous example being Dolly Parton's marriage. Tbh I know next to nothing about her and Carl, but she's always heralded as an example in this regard, because her husband is famously uncomfortable with the spotlight and hasn't accompanied her to public events in decades, but she's said that she never minded that because that was always work to her, and what was important was that he supported her in pursuing all her career goals and basically ensured she had a place to call home to return to at the end of the day.)
We're kind of in a brave new world with her current relationship because it felt like, at least at the start, we were maybe watching her figure out her boundaries in real time as to what she was comfortable with or not and adjust accordingly. Like so many have said, I fully believe the extreme privacy thing was initially driven by herself and her experiences in 2016, and she needed that quiet time to recover from all of the things and figure out how to exist in the world again.
Stating the obvious, it seemed like eventually privacy was equated with secrecy, turning the relationship and the celebrity into the elephant in the room and something to never be spoken of to the outside world. People are free to choose whatever works best for themselves and their relationships, and for some the separate public lives might work, but the “kept me like a secret but I kept you like an oath” theme is all over her work and it’s clear that it’s a sore spot for her, because she’s been made to feel shame just for the life she leads so many times in the past.
What I’m trying to say is that it’s pretty obvious something Not Great was happening behind the scenes, which didn’t just amount to “she wanted to be a public celebrity and he wanted to be a private hermit.” (Also, in case anyone forgot, this is a person who also chose a public-facing career who also has to engage in press for it, but I digress.) As her career reached new heights post-folklore, if she had the support at home to do all the things without judgment and with encouragement, and in turn offer the same support to her partner, she may have very well lived just fine with that, not unlike Dolly Parton’s case.
By reading between the lines in all the press since, as well as comments on tour and general ~vibes~ with TTPD teasers, it seems like one of the issues was that that was likely not the case. There was all the stuff that we saw — the reticence to acknowledge each other in the media (particularly on one side), the lack of public support even at events at which they were both in attendance for their respective jobs, the great lengths they went to not to be photographed together at events they attended yet no problem taking pictures with other friends and coworkers, the jobs that separated them, the withdrawing from the public even for work accomplishments, etc. Which could all be manageable if a couple chooses to do so together and are not inherently a sign of trouble in themselves.
But what we’re seeing now I think is a reflection of the things we weren’t seeing then, and it seems to indicate some very deep hurt. (I know, call me Captain Obvious.) And like so many have been saying, it feels likely that that part of that hurt is rooted in that very lack of private support where a person would expect it from their partner. Obviously as a Taylor fan blog I’m going to be more inclined to understand her side of a story, but tbh, it’s also because… this is sooooooo common, and something I’ve experienced in my friend group. (@taylortruther is right when she says most breakups are the same one way or another lol.)
One partner is resentful of the other’s success, or resentful that the other’s priorities begin to evolve as new experiences unlock new goals, or feels the other’s ambitions are not worthy of pursuit, and coupled with perhaps their own struggles in the same domain, it’s easy to see where that can chip away at the other partner’s morale and faith in the relationship. I know I’m just speculating here, but I also don’t think it’s totally unfounded. (Again, because a) I’m picking up what she’s putting down and b) it happens to sooooooo many women even among us dull normals.)
With all the pointed mentions about how much Taylor feels supported in her current relationship and how she in turn loves to offer the same show of support to not only her partner but other loved ones, how she’s stepped out more in the last year to a whole host of events, how she’s mentioned feeling like she locked herself away for years and she’s just proud of her partner and happy she can show up for him even if the chaos around it is unsettling, it paints a picture of what perhaps was happening before last year.
To feel like you’re all alone in carrying the weight of the relationship (or burden of it), of twisting yourself into knots to accommodate the other person’s boundaries (or insecurities) but not feeling reciprocity for your own has to be so painful. (The idea that it may have been even darker and to have a partner not only be unreceptive to your own needs but even perhaps resentful/dismissive/belittling of them is even more painful to think of. I guess we’ll find out when TTPD comes out if that was the case, too.)
At a certain point, that lack of acknowledgement will force your hand to be able to reclaim yourself. And it feels like the further removed Taylor in particular is from it, the more she moves from being sad about the life she felt she gave up by leaving, to angry at the life she felt she was giving up by staying. Especially being in a relationship now where it seems like everything comes much easier, where she can be open about the person she’s with and show up for them, all the stuff that seemed as challenging as climbing Mount Everest in her past is nothing more than a molehill at best in her current life.
TL;DR: I don’t think it’s privacy that inherently spells doom for a celebrity relationship like this; it’s the mutual support and respect that does. If Taylor had felt that in the later years of her previous relationship, I think we could be seeing a different, though not necessarily unfulfilled, person right now in 2024, who’d be happy on tour but whose personal life would look a little different. But it seems like by losing that support she lost parts of herself, and we’ve seen her reclaim that in spades in the last year, and perhaps to degrees she didn’t even realize she could from before all the Bad Stuff started happening in her young adulthood.
I know this was extremely long-winded and unnecessary, especially about total strangers we only know through scraps fed through the media, but I just always bristle at this idea that issues like these boil down to “personality differences,” as though one person wants to live in a city and the other on a remote island, or some shit like that. The whole support (and gender tbh) issue is one that’s just very close to my heart because again, I have seen it play out with so many of my friends in long term relationships and marriages and I just think people in relationships (and women in particular in some circles) deserve better than to feel like they’re being, well, tolerated.
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Go back to that first time. ❤️
Go back to seeing that first smile, after that look of - are you seeing this?
Back to that first introduction of, I'm Wilhelm even after, we know who the biggest welfare receivers are..
Back to Wille! after I told you to be quiet..
Go back to boiled or grilled? and teasing BFFs..
Back to that first pinky touch, fingers entwined, hopeful looks, vänta vänta vänta and brave, first kisses.. 💙
To hesitations but taking it back! To plans and making it happen, regardless of new developments..
But also to seeing that devastation from the loss of a loved one, to overwhelming stress and dread of new responsibilities..
Go back to seeing immense heartache and despair, leading to bad choices and to Simon, I really like you.. ..all the people are fake. They're made out of metal. But I like you and that is not fake. ❤️
To Wille it's ok. To first times and feeling safe and full of joy.
To golden mornings and looks of - am I really here and has this really happened. To feeling so in love and so happy. 🧡
Back to silly lake dates! To cozy, forgetting names and jumpscares from video game sounds! To finally spending time together alone and having not a care in the world but just being teenagers in love. 💜
Back to seeing how different two peoples' circumstances are but seeing them trying to figure it out. To other factors getting in the way. Back to overwhelming stress and indecision and betrayal of the worst kind.
To jag älskar dig and I hope you have a nice Christmas. Back to heartache but to creating sparks, flaming new feelings of rebellion and finding your way back.. to the most beautiful boy! ❤️💜🧡💙
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Greg's speech at the end of Logan's wake is so blatantly just about Tom it's unreal.
Logan, sure, did "take a chance" on Greg he told him he was hired however he then swiftly had a medical emergency and Greg had to sidle up to Tom and be like "heeeyyy actually Logan gave me a job I don't know if he mentioned but he did" and then had to rely on Tom's goodwill to see him through to his position.
"he saw my passion" Greg barely has passion for media or communication, (he was actually interested in Parks but that's besides the point)- Tom saw his potential, and I believe he was threatened by Greg's position in the family, but he decided that Greg was better under his thumb than being left to the side (where he could very well have been forgotten, because Logan was not dedicated to keeping him around, lmao), for various reasons.
"my love of politics" Greg hated ATN and had mildly liberal tendencies, but Tom dragged him into ATN with him.
"he wasn't always the easiest or most patient of tutors, I couldn't have learned from anyone better" this is exactly just Tom. Tom, who from the get go was 'showing him how to be rich' and often being downright cruel about it, telling him his shoes were not good enough, mocking him for keeping horribly sensitive documents in an insecure place (as if he's not the one saying Tomelette and Greg in work emails, but, he's a better mentor than he is at following his own advice, straight up). Tom was the impatient tutor who taught Greg everything he knows (admittedly, building on Greg's good instincts, like keeping those Cruises documents in the first place, but also keeping him safe when he does something stupid like talking to a reporter)
"taught me...how to adapt to high pressure situations" also Tom. he forced Greg into those high pressure situations, too, but often was there beside him and doing this cunty-mentor thing the whole while.
"In some ways, my best friend" be SERIOUS Greg. He literally yelps 'you're one of my best friends' to Tom to try to appease him when Tom is upset, throwing water bottles, because Greg wants to leave his department. Tom is, by S4, clearly Greg's best friend. Greg through the whole season (and even a few more times in the scripts) is working to get Tom information and while he is playing both sides, in America Decides he gives Tom major information about Shiv before Kendall, and even looks to him to decide whether/when to use it
I rest my fucking case.
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